1 or 2 outlets for 4 foot bathroom vanity sink/cabinet

[Mikepier]

Doing a bathroom reno. Just curious any requirements for outlets for a
4 foot vanity? I know the code is you can put an outlet anywhere as
long as it is within 3 foot of the edge of the sink, but I was
thinking putting one on each side of the vanity. Any issues with this?

[bob haller]

thats what i did, one duplex outlet on either side....

reason hair dryer curling iron radio etc

[George]

We did that. Sometimes I think that isn't enough.

[Tomsic]

"bob haller" <hal...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Don't forget to use a ground fault current interrupter outlet as one of the
devices and to feed the other outlets through the GFCI so all are protected.

Tomsic

[Bill Gill]

I'll join the rest. YES, as a minimum. It is hard
to get too many outlets.

Bill

[bob haller]

I am not very observant:( actually I have two double boxes on either
side the first outlet fed by a GFCI. I did that upgrade over 15 years
ago..... time flies...

it costs little to have extra outlets if your doing the job yourself

[Steve Barker]

i'll second the notion for a yes answer. BUT put them on two different
circuits. That way there's never a problem running two 1500 watt hair
dryers at the same time.

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[Mikepier]

> i'll second the notion for a yes answer.  BUT put them on two different
> circuits.  That way there's never a problem running two 1500 watt hair
> dryers at the same time.

The panel is already almost maxed out. I was lucky enough to get 1 new
circuit in there for the bathroom, but your suggestion is a valid one.

Thanks for everyones input.

[Steve Barker]

a thorough analysis would probably find several circuits that could be
doubled up with others if you need to make room for dedicated breakers.
Or use mini's if your panel allows it.

[micky]

On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 05:07:54 -0700 (PDT), bob haller <hal...@aol.com>
wrote:

I have my TV, radio, wireless speaker adapter (that receives sound
from the computer), and Powermid TV remote control transmitter plugged
in all the time.

And I used to plug in an electric toothbrush,

Not all of these will run at the same time, and some use next to no
currrent, but who wants to keep plugging and unplugging.

I'll bet there are other things too, especially if someone else lives
there too. I don't think 2 duplex is necessarily enough.

[Congoleum Breckenridge]

Also make sure they're 20 amp Heavy duty outlets feed by a 20 amp circuit.

[k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:01:19 -0400, Congoleum Breckenridge <conb...@home.com>
wrote:

20A circuit, sure. Why a 20A outlet?

- The pins on the cord are only rated for 15A
- 20A plugs have a different pin configuration (one rotated 90 degrees)
- 20A outlets are only rated for 20A for 20A plugs (see above)
- 15A outlets are rated for 20A pass through

Just buy good outlets ($2, not $.29).

[homemaintena...@gmail.com]

Actually, a 20 amp T-Slot receptacle can be used for both 15 and 20 amp cord ends. Used primarily for kitchen counter circuits so that we can provide GFCI protection in proximity to sinks, it would also work well in a bathroom application.

[micky]

This line eludes me. Pass 20A through to the next receptacle?? but
not to something plugged in to the 15A outlet?

[homemaintena...@gmail.com]

With regard to home many, as an electrician myself, I prefer 1 per sink... aesthetically, more may detract from the overall look. It is always a delicate balance between function and looks.

Remember too, that they must remain at least 1 metre away from a tub or shower, unless local rules make a separate provision.

[hr(bob) hofmann@att.net]

On Jun 23, 1:28 pm, homemaintenanceconsult...@gmail.com wrote:
> With regard to home many, as an electrician myself, I prefer 1 per sink...  aesthetically, more may detract from the overall look.  It is always a delicate balance between function and looks.
>
> Remember too, that they must remain at least 1 metre away from a tub or shower, unless local rules make a separate provision.

That's what grd fault outlets are for.

[TomR]

I can't remember for sure, but I think the national Electrical Code says
something about switches and outlets not being permitted within 48 inches of
a shower or tub (or something like that). The idea is so that people
standing in a shower or tub won't be able to reach the switch or outlet. I
don't think the fact that the outlet is GFCI would change that requirement
even though GFCI's are required in bathrooms.

[RBM]

On 6/23/2012 2:14 PM, homemaintena...@gmail.com wrote:
> Actually, a 20 amp T-Slot receptacle can be used for both 15 and 20 amp cord ends. Used primarily for kitchen counter circuits so that we can provide GFCI protection in proximity to sinks, it would also work well in a bathroom application.
>

krw was not questioning the 20 amp circuit, just the 20 amp receptacles,
as they are not required by the Nec. His point was that a decent quality
15 amp receptacle will suffice

[RBM]

There is actually no such requirement in the Nec

[RBM]

Typical duplex receptacles are designed to be daisy-chained together.
The conductive buss of a 15 amp duplex receptacle is rated for 20 amps,
so you can chain a bunch of 15 amp outlets along a 20 amp cable.

[k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:14:01 -0700 (PDT), homemaintena...@gmail.com
wrote:

>Actually, a 20 amp T-Slot receptacle can be used for both 15 and 20 amp cord ends.

The cord end is either 15A or 20A. The 20A variety has a different
configuration. Using a 20A receptacle makes no sense unless you're going to
use 20A plugs.

>Used primarily for kitchen counter circuits so that we can provide GFCI protection
>in proximity to sinks, it would also work well in a bathroom application.

Huh? That sentence makes no sense. WTF does GFCI have to do with the
receptacle type?

[k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

Yes. The contacts are rated for 15A but the receptacle is rated for 20A total
(both outlets or pass-thru). In reality, it's about the plug, not the
receptacle. A 15A receptacle will *only* handle a 15A plug. 20A receptacles
will accommodate both 15A and 20A plugs.

[Steve Barker]

On 6/23/2012 1:28 PM, homemaintena...@gmail.com wrote:
> With regard to home many, as an electrician myself, I prefer 1 per sink... aesthetically, more may detract from the overall look. It is always a delicate balance between function and looks.
>
> Remember too, that they must remain at least 1 metre away from a tub or shower, unless local rules make a separate provision.

LMAO!! most of the bathrooms i've re-done you can't GET one "meter" away
from the tub or shower.

[TomR]

"RBM" <rb...@live.com> wrote in message
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Thanks. I thought for sure that there was such a requirement in the NEC.
But, I know you know this stuff, and after reading what you wrote I did a
lot of Google searching on the subject. And, just as you said, there is no
such requirement in the U.S.A. I did find a requirement regarding lighting
fixtures (luminaires) being within 3 feet of, or less than 8 feet above, a
wet area etc. But, there is nothing like that for receptacles or switches.
Amazing.

[RBM]

Strange to me as well. I actually saw a light switch in the tile
directly over a bathtub. This was an original installation, in a 1920
mansion
>

[micky]

On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 20:52:19 -0400, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"

Thanks, you and RBM.

Now I'm dying to have a 20A device so I can have one of those cool
plugs on the end.

[k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

Just don't confuse it with a 240V plug. They look the same (in a mirror ;).

I had a computer installed, many years ago. The *stupid* CE didn't recognize
the difference (between a 240V plug and a 120V/20A) and was about to cut the
plug off and replace it with one that would "fit".