Re: Rayovac batteries - leak problems?
Stormin Mormon
some luck, put the lens on the floor, and push the tailcap with my
palm, from above.
It's a shame that people friek out when the lights go out. I've done
enough darkroom work, and fire department drills. I'm OK with darkness
for a few minutes while I find a light.
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"Jan Philips" <youknowwha...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:43:59 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Might also be the very powerful tailcap spring? I've heard that the
>battery closest to the tail cap is most likely to leak.
The springs on some of the Maglites are very strong - strong enough to
make it hard to get it on in the dark.
In both of my cases, it was not the battery near the cap that was
leaking (or not leaking the most). I was able to get the first
battery out, but the second one was frozen in there.
As far as getting the flashlight on quickly (in another message), some
people in this family are stressed when the lights go out, so it is
important to get them on quickly.
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Tony Miklos
> I usually use Duracell or Energizer batteries. I got some Rayovac
> batteries because they were cheaper. I figured that they were about
> the same, and you are paying for Duracell and Energizer advertising. I
> had the Rayovac batteries in two Maglite flashlights. Both started
> getting dim, so I opened them up to change the batteries. The Rayovac
> batteries had leaked and ruined the flashlights. I contacted Rayovac
> - they said that they were reimbursing me for the flashlights and
> today I received new batteries from them.
>
> I'm afraid to use the replacement Rayovac batteries - they might leak
> and ruin something else. Do Rayovac batteries have problems with
> leaking?
I've used Rayovac AA's for 20 or so years and don't recall having a
problem. I normally wait for the sales and about a month ago bought 30
of them for about 35 cents a piece. My main application long ago was in
electronics in pinball machines, used to hold the memory when turned off
(yes old technology). I'd use a couple hundred a year. They go through
a lot of heat, which most batteries don't like but they seemed to be
just as good as the name brands spending millions of $$ in TV commercials.
I can't say they never leaked, but when things get left go for 5 or more
years, the name brand ones leaked also.
Jan Philips
<youknowwha...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I contacted Rayovac
>- they said that they were reimbursing me for the flashlights and
>today I received new batteries from them.
Followup: and today I received $52.00 from them for the two ruined
Maglites.
Stormin Mormon
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Ron
wrote:
> I usually use Duracell or Energizer batteries. I got some Rayovac
> batteries because they were cheaper. I figured that they were about
> the same, and you are paying for Duracell and Energizer advertising. I
> had the Rayovac batteries in two Maglite flashlights. Both started
> getting dim, so I opened them up to change the batteries. The Rayovac
> - they said that they were reimbursing me for the flashlights and
> today I received new batteries from them.
>
> and ruin something else. Do Rayovac batteries have problems with
> leaking?
Just happen to check the batteries in my Coleman lantern today and
this is what I found.
Jan Philips
wrote:
>Just happen to check the batteries in my Coleman lantern today and
>this is what I found.
>
>http://i55.tinypic.com/r2oldh.jpg
Not pretty. Did they both leak? What brand is the one on the right?
Ron
wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:02:05 -0800 (PST), Ron <BigELil...@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Just happen to check the batteries in my Coleman lantern today and
> >this is what I found.
>
> >http://i55.tinypic.com/r2oldh.jpg
>
> Not pretty. Did they both leak? What brand is the one on the right?
Yep, both leaked. The one on the right is an Energizer.
Stormin Mormon
or was it too far gone?
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Smitty Two
<47c0f6e2-9c9a-483c...@29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com>,
Ron <BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
> Just happen to check the batteries in my Coleman lantern today and
> this is what I found.
>
> http://i55.tinypic.com/r2oldh.jpg
You found blurry batteries? Were they in focus when they were new?
mike
> I usually use Duracell or Energizer batteries. I got some Rayovac
> batteries because they were cheaper. I figured that they were about
> the same, and you are paying for Duracell and Energizer advertising. I
> had the Rayovac batteries in two Maglite flashlights. Both started
> getting dim, so I opened them up to change the batteries. The Rayovac
> batteries had leaked and ruined the flashlights. I contacted Rayovac
> - they said that they were reimbursing me for the flashlights and
> today I received new batteries from them.
>
> I'm afraid to use the replacement Rayovac batteries - they might leak
> and ruin something else. Do Rayovac batteries have problems with
> leaking?
How many years were they in the flashlight?
What's the expiration date printed on the leaky cells?
Jan Philips
>might be helpful to mention the timeframe.
>How many years were they in the flashlight?
At least two years, maybe 3 or 4 (estimating).
>What's the expiration date printed on the leaky cells?
I don't know - I couldn't get them out of the flashlight barrel.
Jim Yanik
2DD0CD.174...@news.eternal-september.org:
I've had good luck -so far- with Ray-o-Vac batteries.
Had to switch from Fuji Novel after they apparently changed manufacture,and
out of a whole 24 pack of AA's,half in the package were leaking well before
the "use by" date,and not even put into use yet.They used to be very
reliable. ;-(
I've had lots of Duracells leak,a few Everready,but Harbor Freight
"Thunderbolt" brand were the worst.
Plus,I'm switching over to rechargeable NiMH AA's where possible.
They don't seem to have the self-discharge rate I expected,MUCH less than
NiCd.
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>Smitty Two <prest...@earthlink.net> wrote in news:prestwhich-
>2DD0CD.174...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> In article
>><47c0f6e2-9c9a-483c...@29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com>,
>> Ron <BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just happen to check the batteries in my Coleman lantern today and
>>> this is what I found.
>>>
>>> http://i55.tinypic.com/r2oldh.jpg
>>
>> You found blurry batteries? Were they in focus when they were new?
>>
>
>I've had good luck -so far- with Ray-o-Vac batteries.
>Had to switch from Fuji Novel after they apparently changed manufacture,and
>out of a whole 24 pack of AA's,half in the package were leaking well before
>the "use by" date,and not even put into use yet.They used to be very
>reliable. ;-(
>I've had lots of Duracells leak,a few Everready,but Harbor Freight
>"Thunderbolt" brand were the worst.
I've been using "UltiTech" batteries from Lowes now for a while; $20 (AA and
AAA) per hundred. They seem to be every bit as good as Duracell and the bunny
brand.
>Plus,I'm switching over to rechargeable NiMH AA's where possible.
>They don't seem to have the self-discharge rate I expected,MUCH less than
>NiCd.
NiMH was supposed to be a lot worse. For $.20 apiece I don't bother with
rechargeable (some applications don't like them).
pvourtsis
I have had 3 separate incidents in the last few months with leaking
Ray-o-vac 'D' cells. The batteries had date codes of 2014. In one case
it damaged a vintage 40 year old Sony portable radio. I have not had any
trouble with their other battery sizes, only the 'D" cells. I even had
one package go bad before I even opened it. It is still in the plastic.
I am an antique radio collector and have now removed all Ray-o-vac 'D'
size cells from my radio collection.
Phil Vourtsis
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You know, we had a pretty hot summer and I wonder if your batteries may
have sat in a hot delivery truck for a little too long?
TDD
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Jan Philips wrote:
> I usually use Duracell or Energizer batteries. I got some Rayovac
> batteries because they were cheaper. I figured that they were about
> the same, and you are paying for Duracell and Energizer advertising. I
> had the Rayovac batteries in two Maglite flashlights. Both started
> getting dim, so I opened them up to change the batteries. The Rayovac
> batteries had leaked and ruined the flashlights. I contacted Rayovac
> - they said that they were reimbursing me for the flashlights and
> today I received new batteries from them.
> I'm afraid to use the replacement Rayovac batteries - they might leak
> and ruin something else. Do Rayovac batteries have problems with
> leaking?
UnclKracker
>
> I'm afraid to use the replacement Rayovac batteries - they might leak
> and ruin something else. Do Rayovac batteries have problems with
> leaking?
batteries became the norm. I've lost several devices to Rayovac but never
when using Duracell or Ever Ready. I'll never buy them again regardless
of the price.
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>
> I usually use Duracell or Energizer batteries. I got some Rayovac
> batteries because they were cheaper. I figured that they were about
> the same, and you are paying for Duracell and Energizer advertising. I
> had the Rayovac batteries in two Maglite flashlights. Both started
> getting dim, so I opened them up to change the batteries. The Rayovac
> batteries had leaked and ruined the flashlights. I contacted Rayovac
> - they said that they were reimbursing me for the flashlights and
> today I received new batteries from them.
> and ruin something else. Do Rayovac batteries have problems with
> leaking?
problem. When I was much younger (I'm now 63) I had several devices
ruined by Ray-O-Vac batteries. I recently bought a Ray-O-Vac LED
flashlight at Big Lots. Took out the Ray-O-Vac batteries that came in it
and replaced them with Duracell Ultras. It's a great flashlight, but I
knew its life expectancy would be radically shortened if I left the
Ray-O-Vac batteries in it.
I have actually found one brand of battery that is worse than Ray-O-Vac
(which I consider a dubious achievement in itself) and that is the
batteries sold at IKEA. I would advise everyone to stay clear of
Ray-O-Vac and IKEA batteries if they want to prevent damage to any of
their devices.
Ray-O-Vac batteries are the most leaky of any battery I've come across.
--
Marvel
> Ray-O-Vac batteries are the most leaky of any battery I've come across.
I buy Ray-O-Vac alkalines because they are made in USA.
I suspect the closest you'll get to leak proof AAA, AA, C and D size batteries is the NiMH type.
Stormin Mormon
>
>
more batteries than I needed for a while. I've
had Harbor Freight AA cells (alkalines) leak in
the package.
Have also had several packages of Rayovac
D cells leak, new in he package.
Also had some Energizers leak.
Some people swear by Duracell. their six volt
square battery with the spring terminals
contains four D cells. Know this cause I've
pulled two of them apart. In both cases, one
D cell was dead, the other three were fine.
All three batteries, the company was very nice
about replacing them. One confirmed the codes
on the cells, and mailed out replacement cells.
Another sent a bunch of coupons. HF let me swap
em out for a new package of cells.
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Jan Philips
batteries because they were cheaper. I figured that they were about
the same, and you are paying for Duracell and Energizer advertising. I
had the Rayovac batteries in two Maglite flashlights. Both started
getting dim, so I opened them up to change the batteries. The Rayovac
batteries had leaked and ruined the flashlights. I contacted Rayovac
- they said that they were reimbursing me for the flashlights and
today I received new batteries from them.
I'm afraid to use the replacement Rayovac batteries - they might leak
and ruin something else. Do Rayovac batteries have problems with
leaking?
John Gilmer
>
> I'm afraid to use the replacement Rayovac batteries - they might leak
> and ruin something else. Do Rayovac batteries have problems with
> leaking?
I suppose any cell will leak if sufficiently abused.
Personally, I buy cheap alkalines at discount places for about $.25/cell.
Occasionally I find signs of slight "leakage" in stuff that I left the
batteries in but didn't use.
Most severe leakage usually comes when you leave something on and the cells
are completely drained. When this happens, one cell is likely to end up
being discharged to the point where it exhibits polarity reversal. Now
THAT'S when you get serious leakage.
IOW: your best protection against leakage is: 1) only use alkaline cells
in disposable applications; 2) don't leave the gadget turned on; and 3) when
you KNOW the battteries are "weak" just toss them.
Keep plenty of spare cells around so that you aren't tempted to leave "weak"
cells inside appliances where they can cause problems.
Personally, I use a mix of NiCads, MNiH, and alkalines. Heavy drawing
stuff uses rechargables. Otherwise, I use AA & AAA alkalines.
Jan Philips
<jlgi...@localnet.com> wrote:
>IOW: your best protection against leakage is: 1) only use alkaline cells
>in disposable applications; 2) don't leave the gadget turned on; and 3) when
>you KNOW the battteries are "weak" just toss them.
#1 - I use only alkaline
2 - the flashlights were not on for a very long time
3 - I tested them and they were weak - that's when I opened them up to
change the batteries and found the leak problem.
ransley
wrote:
I never had a Duracell or Energiser leak that had charge left in it,
so I maybe rayovac have problems
Caesar Romano
problems?:
>Do Rayovac batteries have problems with
>leaking?
Yes.
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Tegger
We had several MagLites over the years, all but one of them gifts.
Each and every one was destroyed by leaking batteries. All the batteries
used were either Energizer or Duracell alkaline.
I have come to the tentative conclusion that the primary issue is that
MagLites are sealed too well to allow any sort of air flow through them.
Our other less-well-sealed flashlights (some dating back to the '80s) do
not suffer from this problem, even with the same brand and type of
batteries. This is what leads me to the tentative conclusion mentioned
above.
My solution: unload the MagLite when not in use; leave it open; only
install the batteries when you need the flashlight.
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Caesar Romano
wrote Re Re: Rayovac batteries - leak problems?:
>My solution: unload the MagLite when not in use; leave it open; only
>install the batteries when you need the flashlight.
Excellent solution.
Jan Philips
>My solution: unload the MagLite when not in use; leave it open; only
>install the batteries when you need the flashlight.
A problem with that is that I have that I have four of them around the
house located in places that I can find in the dark by feel. I don't
want to have to find the batteries in the dark.
Vic Smith
IMO a flashlight without batteries in it is useless.
Always want it fast, and ready.
I've got at least 3 Maglites and never had a battery leak in them.
I never use Ray-O-Vac, which I've had leak long ago.
Never had Duracells leak.
Usually there's cheap batteries in them that my wife picks up at Big
Lots or some other bargain place.
I looked at the Mags in the kitchen and the 5-cell has Fuji something
in it, the 3-cell was empty.
Since I picked up a few packs of those HF LED flashlights I hardly use
the MagLites anyway.
Grabbed the empty Maglite just the other day and when I saw it didn't
light I just grabbed one of the LED's, which filled the bill.
Got those little things all around the house.
Anybody using Eneloops?
I've been using them for all my wireless stuff and digital camera for
about a year now and really like them. They hold a charge longer than
the Targa and Ever-Ready rechargeables I was using before, and don't
degrade after repeated chargings like those did.
That's just my impression, no scientific testing.
I'm thinking about getting some more for the flashlights, and have
just one battery type in the house.
I'll tell my wife not to buy any more batteries, and just go see the
Master of Batteries - me - for any battery needs.
No inappropriate jokes here - please.
But Eneloops are a bit more expensive than most rechargeables, so I
haven't pulled the trigger on that.
--Vic
Tegger
Rubber-band them to the flashlight, in the orientation you'll need them to
be when installed.
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Nate Nagel
Oddly, I seem to have been presented with a lot of kids' toys lately to
fix that I was unable to do so because of leaking batteries. They were
all rayovacs. I just dug out some old wireless mice that'd been in a
drawer for months, unused - no leakage. Batteries in one were Energizer
and the other Duracell. I can't remember the last time I had a leakage
problem, but I never use Rayovac batteries - mostly use Energizer
lithium when I can find them because I hate having to buy batteries.
Also have several LED flashlights with the Duracell batteries that they
came with still in them, some of them more than a year old.
completely anecdotal, I know, but I can't remember the last time I saw a
battery that had leaked that *wasn't* a Rayovac.
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> IMO a flashlight without batteries in it is useless.
> Always want it fast, and ready.
Pretty much. Who wants to fumble in the dark looking for batteries or
loading them into unit when the lights go out? I've found that if any
device is left on, they can cause the alkaline cells to leak. I've had them
ALL leak - Rayovacs, Energizers and even Duracells. The only exceptions are
NiMH, which I've never had leak under any circumstances.
> Anybody using Eneloops?
> I've been using them for all my wireless stuff and digital camera for
> about a year now and really like them. They hold a charge longer than
> the Targa and Ever-Ready rechargeables I was using before, and don't
> degrade after repeated chargings like those did.
I've been testing them for the last year. Very useful in high drain stuff
like portable TV's, cameras, etc. Seem to hold a charge for at least six
months - I've got a digital charger that tells you how many mA's of charge a
battery takes so in about six months from now I'll know how well they hold a
charge over a year. I charged a batch up that I bought this summer and just
put them away. Package claims 80% charge retention - we'll see.
While they are pricey, it does seem that will be very useful in LED
flashlights because of the long charge retention. Using NiMH cells in
flashlights usually means recharging them every 3 months to make sure they
still work and that's a PITA. So is going for a flashlight and finding it
ruined from a battery leak.
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Jan Philips
wrote:
>completely anecdotal, I know, but I can't remember the last time I saw a
>battery that had leaked that *wasn't* a Rayovac.
That has been my recent experience too, but as you say, that is only
anecdotal evidence.
Rayovac sent me two sets of replacements. I'm afraid to use them,
except I may use them for a while and get rid of them before they have
a chance to leak.
Jan Philips
wrote:
>Each and every one was destroyed by leaking batteries. All the batteries
>used were either Energizer or Duracell alkaline.
>
>I have come to the tentative conclusion that the primary issue is that
>MagLites are sealed too well to allow any sort of air flow through them.
>
>Our other less-well-sealed flashlights (some dating back to the '80s) do
>not suffer from this problem, even with the same brand and type of
>batteries. This is what leads me to the tentative conclusion mentioned
>above.
>
>My solution: unload the MagLite when not in use; leave it open; only
>install the batteries when you need the flashlight.
I have Maglites with Energizer or Duracell, but no leakage problems.
So I doubt it is a consequence of Maglites.
Stormin Mormon
battery closest to the tail cap is most likely to leak.
I've had the fewest leakers in Duracell.
Of course, it's not always practical to take the batteries out and
store separately. I try to remember once a year or so, to open the
tail cap. Bit of vaseline on the threads. Change the order of the
batteries, so a different cell is in back.
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or so. Of course, you can carry a mini mag or squeeze button cell
light to be able to get to the Mag. Still, that's a time delay if
you've got a wolf in the chickens.
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Stormin Mormon
different set of metals. Iron, zinc. They work well, for me. I've had
one or two cells that didn't hold a charge as well, but who can tell.
Might be just a fluke. Powergenix need their own charger, different
voltage and charge cycle. Only found in AA size.
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Anybody using Eneloops?
I've been using them for all my wireless stuff and digital camera for
about a year now and really like them. They hold a charge longer than
the Targa and Ever-Ready rechargeables I was using before, and don't
degrade after repeated chargings like those did.
That's just my impression, no scientific testing.
I'm thinking about getting some more for the flashlights, and have
just one battery type in the house.
But Eneloops are a bit more expensive than most rechargeables, so I
dgk
<cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I've heard good about Eneloops. I've also tried Powergenix, which is a
>different set of metals. Iron, zinc. They work well, for me. I've had
>one or two cells that didn't hold a charge as well, but who can tell.
>Might be just a fluke. Powergenix need their own charger, different
>voltage and charge cycle. Only found in AA size.
I don't know about them but I've had good results using Tenergy
batteries - I get them through www.all-battery.com. I have no
financial or other connection with them except that I like the
batteries.
I commute by bike through much of the winter, so I use their batteries
in lots of lights as well as my heated gloves. I also use them in all
the remotes in the house. They last for a few years, with heavy use in
the winter months and fairly light use otherwise. I also use their
batteries for my two Roombas.
Jan Philips
<cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Might also be the very powerful tailcap spring? I've heard that the
>battery closest to the tail cap is most likely to leak.
The springs on some of the Maglites are very strong - strong enough to
make it hard to get it on in the dark.
In both of my cases, it was not the battery near the cap that was
leaking (or not leaking the most). I was able to get the first
battery out, but the second one was frozen in there.
As far as getting the flashlight on quickly (in another message), some
people in this family are stressed when the lights go out, so it is
important to get them on quickly.
Tegger
> On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:43:59 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
> <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Might also be the very powerful tailcap spring? I've heard that the
>>battery closest to the tail cap is most likely to leak.
>
> The springs on some of the Maglites are very strong - strong enough to
> make it hard to get it on in the dark.
>
> In both of my cases, it was not the battery near the cap that was
> leaking (or not leaking the most). I was able to get the first
> battery out, but the second one was frozen in there.
I never thought of that before.
Perhaps the spring is strong enough that it can compromise the seals on the
batteries. You wouldn't necessarily see the leaks from the battery nearest
the spring, but from the one(s) which had the weakest sealing in the first
place.
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Raymond
I've had the same problem. Totally ruined my Maglite D cell flashlight and
the AA cells leaked in two of my Fenix LED flashlights. I managed to save
them at least. Just threw all my remaining RayOVac batteries in the trash and
picked up some Duracells.
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> replying to Jan Philips, Raymond wrote:
> I've had the same problem. Totally ruined my Maglite D cell flashlight and
> the AA cells leaked in two of my Fenix LED flashlights. I managed to save
> them at least. Just threw all my remaining RayOVac batteries in the trash and
> picked up some Duracells.
Stormin Mormon
new in the package. Quality of every thing is gone
to naught. I've also had Rayovac D cells leak,
also new in the package. And had Energizers leak.
Again, new in the package.
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<caedfaa9ed1216d60e...@example.com> wrote:
>replying to Jan Philips, Raymond wrote:
>I've had the same problem. Totally ruined my Maglite D cell flashlight and
>the AA cells leaked in two of my Fenix LED flashlights. I managed to save
>them at least. Just threw all my remaining RayOVac batteries in the trash and
>picked up some Duracells.
in the last 10 years was a "coppertop". Just a wee bit of green/white
fuzz on both ends. No swelling - and easily cleaned up.
The secret, I guess, is to NEVER leave batteries in anything
un-attended for any lenth of time.
I also had a set of off-brand original equipment batteries in a TV
remote leak. The TV is 4 years old and one day the remote (used daily)
just stopped working. I pulled the batteries and they were both
leaking (again- just a bit of green/white fuzz on both ends)
Both sets of leakers were aaa size.
I've also had a couple of coin batteries "leak" the same way. All have
been at least 3 years old.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
they? I havw a box full of cheap "Chateau" brand non-alkaline
batteries that are over 5 years old (were leftover stock from a
friend's "dollar store" that he closed at least 5 years ago) and NONE
have leaked, and well over 80% tested fully charged when I got them a
year ago. c, d, and 9 volt.
Stormin Mormon
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 08:11:25 -0400, Stormin Mormon
>> new in the package. Quality of every thing is gone
>> to naught. I've also had Rayovac D cells leak,
>> also new in the package. And had Energizers leak.
>> Again, new in the package.
> What was the expiry date on the batteries? How long past EOL were
> they? I havw a box full of cheap "Chateau" brand non-alkaline
> batteries that are over 5 years old (were leftover stock from a
> friend's "dollar store" that he closed at least 5 years ago) and NONE
> have leaked, and well over 80% tested fully charged when I got them a
> year ago. c, d, and 9 volt.
>
Stormin Mormon
> batteries that are over 5 years old (were leftover stock from a
> friend's "dollar store" that he closed at least 5 years ago) and NONE
> have leaked, and well over 80% tested fully charged when I got them a
> year ago. c, d, and 9 volt.
>
very long -- in use, or in storage.
Vic Smith
cl...@snyder.on.ca
before" date and/or have been left either significantly discharged or
in high temperature storage conditions for some time. (or possible
suffered a "hard freeze")
cl...@snyder.on.ca
<cayo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On 3/25/2016 1:17 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> I havw a box full of cheap "Chateau" brand non-alkaline
>> batteries that are over 5 years old (were leftover stock from a
>> friend's "dollar store" that he closed at least 5 years ago) and NONE
>> have leaked, and well over 80% tested fully charged when I got them a
>> year ago. c, d, and 9 volt.
>>
>
>I've found the heavy duty cells don't last
>very long -- in use, or in storage.
low current use like electronics, but pretty good for high current use
like toys and flashlights.
KenK
here might ask. That's the least you could do for us. After all, we're
all just trying to help.
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>>Can't remember, and didn't take any notes. Sorry.
> It's been my experience "most" leakers are well past their "best
>before" date and/or have been left either significantly discharged or
>in high temperature storage conditions for some time. (or possible
>suffered a "hard freeze")
notbob
> I never knew freezing had any effect ? ? ?
I had brand new copper tops in a maglite. It was 0-dark-thirty and was
jes below freezing and my maglite would not go on. New batteries and
they were dead! ....at below freezing temps. I changed to Energizers
and never had that problem again.
nb
Stormin Mormon
ruin my reputation as a friendly and lovable guy.
Stormin Mormon
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 13:24:27 -0400, Stormin Mormon
>> very long -- in use, or in storage.
> In use they provide high current for a short time - not very good for
> low current use like electronics, but pretty good for high current use
> like toys and flashlights.
>
of what you wrote.
Mark Lloyd
[snip]
> I've found the heavy duty cells don't last
> very long -- in use, or in storage.
the low end.
BTW, I remember the "king size" soft drinks from the sixties. 10 ounce
bottles, smaller than the regular ones now.
There's also "deluxe" in the name of cheap junk.
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cl...@snyder.on.ca
Alkaline batteries are easy to store. For best results, keep the cells
at cool room temperature and at a relative humidity of about 50
percent. Do not freeze alkaline cells, or any battery, as this may
change the molecular structure.
From Energizer:
1. Is it a good idea to store batteries in a refrigerator or freezer?
No, storage in a refrigerator or freezer is not required or
recommended for batteries produced today. Cold temperature storage can
in fact harm batteries if condensation results in corroded contacts or
label or seal damage due to extreme temperature storage. To maximize
performance and shelf life, store batteries at normal room
temperatures (68°F to 78°F or 20°C to 25°C) with moderated humidity
levels (35 to 65% RH).
Notice the reference to "seal damage" - which can cause leakage.
From the tool Guyd site:
In general, alkaline batteries perform very poorly in cold weather. As
alkaline batteries are engineered with a water-based electrolyte, cold
near-freezing point temperatures can lead to reduced ion mobility
which slows down the chemical reactions that provide electrical
battery power. This leads to a drop in performance, runtime, or both.
In some cases, cold temperatures can cause alkaline batteries to burst
and leak.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
<cayo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On 3/25/2016 1:36 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 13:24:27 -0400, Stormin Mormon
>>> I've found the heavy duty cells don't last
>>> very long -- in use, or in storage.
>> In use they provide high current for a short time - not very good for
>> low current use like electronics, but pretty good for high current use
>> like toys and flashlights.
>>
>
>The articles I've read say pretty much opposite
>of what you wrote.
than the old zinc carbon/manganese dioxide LeXlanche battery and puts
out about 3 times the capacity, longer life, and less likelihood of
leakage
They have a longer shelf life, but a lower output/in-use life than
alkalines.
I've found for things like flashlights that sit most of their life but
need to work when you need them, Carbon/zinc chloride batteries are
best. For things that are used every day - low current/light duty use
like clocks and remote controls alkalines are better.
Just my experience. And yes - a fresh alkaline will outperform a fresh
"heavy duty" battery when it comes to hours of output from a
flashlight - but put that flashlight away after half an hour of use
and go back to it a year later - - - -
Stormin Mormon
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:36:33 -0400, Stormin Mormon
>> of what you wrote.
> The "heavy duty" carbon zinc Chloride battery is a different animal
> than the old zinc carbon/manganese dioxide LeXlanche battery and puts
> out about 3 times the capacity, longer life, and less likelihood of
> leakage
>
> They have a longer shelf life, but a lower output/in-use life than
> alkalines.
>
> I've found for things like flashlights that sit most of their life but
> need to work when you need them, Carbon/zinc chloride batteries are
> best. For things that are used every day - low current/light duty use
> like clocks and remote controls alkalines are better.
>
> Just my experience. And yes - a fresh alkaline will outperform a fresh
> "heavy duty" battery when it comes to hours of output from a
> flashlight - but put that flashlight away after half an hour of use
> and go back to it a year later - - - -
>
and read, that alkalines have much higher capacity and
much longer shelf life. One time for some thing to do,
I did mix and match alkalines and carbon zincs. I found
alkalines last four times longer. Both in low and high
drain applications.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
the shelf" for ofer 5 years and are still in perfect operating
condition......
Stormin Mormon
> On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 09:21:13 -0400, Stormin Mormon
>> and read, that alkalines have much higher capacity and
>> much longer shelf life. One time for some thing to do,
>> I did mix and match alkalines and carbon zincs. I found
>> alkalines last four times longer. Both in low and high
>> drain applications.
> Well I have a big box of "heavy duty" batteries that have been "on
> the shelf" for ofer 5 years and are still in perfect operating
> condition......
>
prove anything.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
<cayo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On 3/26/2016 1:49 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 09:21:13 -0400, Stormin Mormon
>>> Again, that's backwards of my experience. I've found,
>>> and read, that alkalines have much higher capacity and
>>> much longer shelf life. One time for some thing to do,
>>> I did mix and match alkalines and carbon zincs. I found
>>> alkalines last four times longer. Both in low and high
>>> drain applications.
>> Well I have a big box of "heavy duty" batteries that have been "on
>> the shelf" for ofer 5 years and are still in perfect operating
>> condition......
>>
>
>If they are (which I doubt), it doesn't
>prove anything.
storage.
jt
Just found this forum. I realize the thread is old but I believe my
experience is relevant.
Last week I tossed the second Mag Lite (3 D cell) flashlight that Rayovac
batteries ruined. This time was a repeat of the first time, the center cell
went bad and leaked and swelled - sort of welded to the flashlight body.
Like the first time, slamming the tube on the top of my workbench eventually
freed the battery but the switch shifts in the process and flashlight was
ruined. Having to pop for another MagLite pissed me off.
If it was just the 2 flashlights (about 10 years apart) I probably wouldn't be
taking the time to even write this note, but during that time frame there were
other Rayovac leaks - the LED light set, the camera, and the rec room remote
control, and the battery organizer. All had Rayovacs (but at least for those
the damage was not beyond repair and I was able to remove the batteries in
those and clean the equipment up). However, I'm fed up with having to spend
my time to fix problems caused by leaky Rayovac batteries and having to spend
money to replace Mag Lites. Plus I have a bunch of the batteries that I now
afraid to us.
I don't have receipts but I'm disgusted enough that sent a note to Rayovac -
we'll see what they say/do.
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cl...@snyder.on.ca
years ago - you keep buying them - you continue having problems - and
still you buy a large quantity of them AGAIN - and have more problems.
What am I missing here??
How old are the "bunch of the batteries that I now
afraid to use"? Hopefully not from the same brick you started with 10
years ago!!.
VinnyB
<b0ba1$57b350e1$a2d350aa$97...@news.flashnewsgroups.com>
>If it was just the 2 flashlights (about 10 years apart) I probably wouldn't be
>taking the time to even write this note, but during that time frame there were
>other Rayovac leaks - the LED light set, the camera, and the rec room remote
>control, and the battery organizer.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
wrote:
not inexpensive)
hkd...@gmail.com
> I usually use Duracell or Energizer batteries. I got some Rayovac
> batteries because they were cheaper. I figured that they were about
> the same, and you are paying for Duracell and Energizer advertising. I
> had the Rayovac batteries in two Maglite flashlights. Both started
> getting dim, so I opened them up to change the batteries. The Rayovac
> batteries had leaked and ruined the flashlights. I contacted Rayovac
> - they said that they were reimbursing me for the flashlights and
> today I received new batteries from them.
>
> I'm afraid to use the replacement Rayovac batteries - they might leak
> and ruin something else. Do Rayovac batteries have problems with
> leaking?
> --
> Replace you know what by j to email
I have had 2 flashlights get ruined in the last year from these junk batteries. I bought a frogsleggs from amazon for 20$ and the 2024 date batteries have corrode the whole unit. I am calling Mon. to see what they will do. Back to Duracell.
Uncle Monster
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Stormin' Norman
that Ray-O-Vac is really good about replacing devices damaged by their
leaking batteries.
So far they replaced three damaged, somewhat expensive Petzl brand
headlamps for me.
If someone has found a brand of battery that doesn't leak, I would
like to know what it is.
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> If someone has found a brand of battery that doesn't leak, I would
> like to know what it is.
Tekkie®
>
> On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 11:48:17 -0800 (PST), hkd...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >On Monday, December 13, 2010 at 10:29:14 PM UTC-5, Jan Philips wrote:
> >> I usually use Duracell or Energizer batteries. I got some Rayovac
> >> batteries because they were cheaper. I figured that they were about
> >> the same, and you are paying for Duracell and Energizer advertising. I
> >> had the Rayovac batteries in two Maglite flashlights. Both started
> >> getting dim, so I opened them up to change the batteries. The Rayovac
> >> batteries had leaked and ruined the flashlights. I contacted Rayovac
> >> - they said that they were reimbursing me for the flashlights and
> >> today I received new batteries from them.
> >>
> >> I'm afraid to use the replacement Rayovac batteries - they might leak
> >> and ruin something else. Do Rayovac batteries have problems with
> >> leaking?
> >> --
> >> Replace you know what by j to email
> >
> >I have had 2 flashlights get ruined in the last year from these junk batteries. I bought a frogsleggs from amazon for 20$ and the 2024 date batteries have corrode the whole unit. I am calling Mon. to see what they will do. Back to Duracell.
>
> All the consumer grade batteries seem to leak over time. I discovered
> that Ray-O-Vac is really good about replacing devices damaged by their
> leaking batteries.
>
> So far they replaced three damaged, somewhat expensive Petzl brand
> headlamps for me.
>
> If someone has found a brand of battery that doesn't leak, I would
> like to know what it is.
Duracell batteries because they leak. I've switched to Energizer but to my
observation they don't last as long as Duracell. I never had exceptional
experiences with Rayovac. It's hard to compare quality/life equally because
of the randomness of use. I am slowly going to rechargeable.
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Brian Huffman
I just had a Rayovac battery nearly destroy my Mac's wireless keyboard. I
also had a very expensive flashlight destroyed and I believe that its
batteries came from the same batch of Rayovac's. I am switching to lithium
batteries on expensive items.
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Wade Garrett
> I have a 60-pk of AAA alkaline batteries by Rayovac that still has 28
> UNUSED batteries where many of those unused batteries have leaked. So,
> it's not necessarily an issue of abuse or misuse apparently. I
> discovered the bad batteries when my tv remote wasn't working. I thought
> they hadn't been in use for very long, but figured I must not have
> realized how long they had been installed. When I went to get
> replacements out of the 60-pk that's when I discovered the unused ones
> had leaked, too. Which is what led to my internet search on leaky
> batteries. Fortunately, I was able to clean the "crud" off the contact
> areas in the remote and the device was not damaged as far as I can tell
> at this time. The packaging touts a "10 Year Power Guarantee in storage"
> so I don't believe it was an issue of having them in storage for too long.
>
Retirednoguilt
decades ago because almost all of the ones I used leaked either
prematurely or at end of life. I've never had the slightest leak from
an Energizer. Maybe I've just been lucky with them.
Rod Speed
thrown away once they no long power what they were in adequately.
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Clare Snyder
<df256ee328f19f73...@example.com> wrote:
>I have a 60-pk of AAA alkaline batteries by Rayovac that still has 28 UNUSED batteries where many of those unused batteries have leaked. So, it's not necessarily an issue of abuse or misuse apparently. I discovered the bad batteries when my tv remote wasn't working. I thought they hadn't been in use for very long, but figured I must not have realized how long they had been installed. When I went to get replacements out of the 60-pk that's when I discovered the unused ones had leaked, too. Which is what led to my internet search on leaky batteries. Fortunately, I was able to clean the "crud" off the contact areas in the remote and the device was not damaged as far as I can tell at this time. The packaging touts a "10 Year Power Guarantee in storage" so I don't believe it was an issue of having them in storage for too long.
tester and have not leaked Most are ever-ready but some are Chinese
off-brands
5tft
wrote:
when I don't discard the one which are now too flat to use.
Peeler
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disagree without being disagreeable or resorting to profanity-- clear
marks of limited intellect and/or education ;-)
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talking to a brick.
Rod Speed
>> Wade Garrett <Wa...@cooler.net> wrote
>>> TaraDawn wrote
>>>> I have a 60-pk of AAA alkaline batteries by Rayovac that still has 28
>>>> UNUSED batteries where many of those unused batteries have leaked.
>>>> So, it's not necessarily an issue of abuse or misuse apparently. I
>>>> discovered the bad batteries when my tv remote wasn't working. I
>>>> thought they hadn't been in use for very long, but figured I must not
>>>> have realized how long they had been installed. When I went to get
>>>> replacements out of the 60-pk that's when I discovered the unused
>>>> ones had leaked, too. Which is what led to my internet search on
>>>> leaky batteries. Fortunately, I was able to clean the "crud" off the
>>>> contact areas in the remote and the device was not damaged as far as
>>>> I can tell at this time. The packaging touts a "10 Year Power
>>>> Guarantee in storage" so I don't believe it was an issue of having
>>>> them in storage for too long.
>>> Leaking is a problem with all alkalines- the brand matter not...
>> Thats bullshit, none of mine have leaked even the ones I havent
>> thrown away once they no long power what they were in adequately.
> You are a very rude person and lack basic social skills.
<reams of your shit flushed where it belongs>
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Don't buy this junk as the overall initial savings will be wiped out by damaged equipment, loss of batteries, and frustration.
cubbybear
Rod Speed
<6251ec04c6a459c3...@example.com> wrote:
> they leak and corrode i have a 24 pk unopened ex nov 2024 that are junk
> trying to get adjusted so far no luck!
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> I have a 60-pk of AAA alkaline batteries by Rayovac that still has 28
> UNUSED batteries where many of those unused batteries have leaked. So,
> it's not necessarily an issue of abuse or misuse apparently. I
> discovered the bad batteries when my tv remote wasn't working. I thought
> they hadn't been in use for very long, but figured I must not have
> realized how long they had been installed. When I went to get
> replacements out of the 60-pk that's when I discovered the unused ones
> had leaked, too. Which is what led to my internet search on leaky
> batteries. Fortunately, I was able to clean the "crud" off the contact
> areas in the remote and the device was not damaged as far as I can tell
> at this time. The packaging touts a "10 Year Power Guarantee in storage"
> so I don't believe it was an issue of having them in storage for too long.
>
my freezer monitor sender units are (I think) Ultimate Lithium because
they perform better at subzero temps . Never had a leak in any brand .
When they quit holding a charge I toss 'em and buy more .
Vroby
Will
Emma-Rae Cystt
> Yes, they do leak. We have sent them photos of the leaking batteries and they claim that they CANNOT see the information on them...WRONG. For I clicked on the photos and they blew up to see the information. They just want to sell inferior batteries.
> They used to be good when they were in Madison WI as just Rayovac. Now it is Spectrum Brands and the quality has really gone down.
>
Capt'n Butler
> Yes, they do leak. We have sent them photos of the leaking batteries
> and they claim that they CANNOT see the information on them...WRONG.
> For I clicked on the photos and they blew up to see the information.
> They just want to sell inferior batteries. They used to be good when
> they were in Madison WI as just Rayovac. Now it is Spectrum Brands and
> the quality has really gone down.
>
purchased several 50 and 60 packs of AA and AAA a couple of years back
when Home Depot ran them on Christmas sale.
Worst problem was an AA pair ruining a hundred dollar Apple Magic
Keyboard. It took several months of repeated back and forth as they
required endless additional pictures, receipts, written statements, etc.
before they finally came across with a check.
The whole process felt like
stall-city/make-it-so-tedious-that-the-customer-gives-up tactic...but I
persevered.
I also chucked out the remaining unused ones in the packages and
replaced the batts in all my devices and flashlights, etc. The local
Costco battery department manager was very happy ;-)
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Retirednoguilt
> Yes, they do leak. We have sent them photos of the leaking batteries and they claim that they CANNOT see the information on them...WRONG. For I clicked on the photos and they blew up to see the information. They just want to sell inferior batteries. They used to be good when they were in Madison WI as just Rayovac. Now it is Spectrum Brands and the quality has really gone down.
>
high rates of leakage at least since I was a pre-teenager when I saw
them ruin many of my parent's flashlights and early models of vacuum
tube portable radios. Of course, I had to find out for myself and
proceeded to ruin several flashlights I bought as a teenager. The fact
that Rayovac batteries are still sold just goes to show that indeed,
"there's a sucker born every minute."
Snag
have had zero problems with leakage .
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