OT: Lots to digest in this new polls, but one thing explains a lot

[trader_4]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/americans-wary-of-trump-tariffs-impact-but-support-plan-to-aid-farmers-cbs-poll/


91% of Strong Trump supporters trust Trump for their news

while only 11% trust the mainstream media.


So, they trust a prolific liar, who's lies are exposed almost daily.
When your "truth" is coming from Trump, you're obviously so compromised
that you're beyond clueless. Muggles is a classic example. She says
that the whopping lie Trump told America at the debate about meeting
Putin at 60 Minutes, "we were stablemates", is true because the totally
separate segments happened to air on TV the same night, so that makes
it truthful. Once again, I now understand how guys like Hitler managed
to seduce and brainwash a nation, it's happening right before our eyes.
He's completely flipped the GOP. They used to be the party that viewed
Russia as our enemy, was opposed to big govt, was opposed to deficit and
piling on the national debt, was opposed to tariffs and bailouts, the
govt picking winners and losers. Trump comes along and flips all that
and they are all on board. It's quite stunning.

[philo]

As a Democrat I am fine with those with a conservative view...I share a
lot .

Trump is just plain wacked. Hard to believe 40% or so still support him.

[trader_4]

Supporting him is bad enough, but relying on Trump for news shows how far in the kool-aid tank they are. I never relied on any president for news, even those that I strongly supported.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 7/29/2018 6:14 PM, trader_4 wrote:
>
>
> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/americans-wary-of-trump-tariffs-impact-but-support-plan-to-aid-farmers-cbs-poll/
>
>
> 91% of Strong Trump supporters trust Trump for their news
>
> while only 11% trust the mainstream media.
>
>
> So, they trust a prolific liar, who's lies are exposed almost daily.
> When your "truth" is coming from Trump, you're obviously so compromised
> that you're beyond clueless. Muggles is a classic example. She says
> that the whopping lie Trump told America at the debate about meeting
> Putin at 60 Minutes, "we were stablemates", is true because the totally
> separate segments happened to air on TV the same night, so that makes
> it truthful. Once again, I now understand how guys like Hitler managed
> to seduce and brainwash a nation, it's happening right before our eyes.

Muggles could not understand when I compared Trump to Hitler and other
charismatic people. Good or bad, some have the ability to mesmerize a
group of followers that trust the "leader" more than their own senses.
They become puppets.

[trader_4]

Exactly. Trump isn't a Hitler, but in that aspect, the ability to somehow
seduce people into believing him, suspending belief of what the truth is,
it's the same phenomena.

[Uncle Monster]

Are you still under the spell of your idol the Gay Mullatto Obama? <snicker> ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Curious Monster

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 29 Jul 2018 17:32:06 -0500, philo

Another poll I saw said that 40% of those polled thought trump was too
easy on Putin or the Russians at Helsinki.

But 35% said he was about right. And 15% said he was too hard on the R
ussians!!!

[Muggles]

Trump said he would give us a tax break. He did. He supports our
troops, and has put money behind that promise. He is bringing jobs back
to the US, and Korean War veteran remains are being returned to the US.
He is making other countries pay their fair share of money at NATO, and
numerous other things he is doing to improve American lives.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/year-one-list-81-major-trump-achievements-11-obama-legacy-items-repealed

I still support him, and it looks like even many former democrats are
walking away from the left.

--
Maggie

[Bod]

Seduction is the perfect description for what Trump is doing, he's
completely seducing the gullible sheep. I can see it as clear as day.

--
Bod

[Bod]

Suppoting a known pathelogical liar says a lot about you.

--
Bod

[Uncle Monster]

Gee! Aren't you glad he's not the leader of YOUR country?! I'm so glad he the President of my country and doing things for Americans rather than people from other countries like our last President who seemed to serve everyone BUT Americans. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Pleased Monster

[Uncle Monster]

Aren't you just glad that all YOUR leaders are so angelic? It must be so wonderful? ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Congratulatory Monster

[trader_4]

On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 11:54:05 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
> On 7/29/2018 5:32 PM, philo wrote:
> > On 7/29/2018 5:14 PM, trader_4 wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/americans-wary-of-trump-tariffs-impact-but-support-plan-to-aid-farmers-cbs-poll/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 91% of Strong Trump supporters trust Trump for their news
> >>
> >> while only 11% trust the mainstream media.
> >>
> >>
> >> So, they trust a prolific liar, who's lies are exposed almost daily.
> >> When your "truth" is coming from Trump, you're obviously so compromised
> >> that you're beyond clueless.  Muggles is a classic example.  She says
> >> that the whopping lie Trump told America at the debate about meeting
> >> Putin at 60 Minutes, "we were stablemates", is true because the totally
> >> separate segments happened to air on TV the same night, so that makes
> >> it truthful.  Once again, I now understand how guys like Hitler managed
> >> to seduce and brainwash a nation, it's happening right before our eyes.
> >> He's completely flipped the GOP.  They used to be the party that viewed
> >> Russia as our enemy, was opposed to big govt, was opposed to deficit and
> >> piling on the national debt, was opposed to tariffs and bailouts, the
> >> govt picking winners and losers.  Trump comes along and flips all that
> >> and they are all on board.  It's quite stunning.
>
>
> > As a Democrat I am fine with those with a conservative view...I share a
> > lot .
> >
> > Trump is just plain wacked. Hard to believe 40% or so still support him.
>
> Trump said he would give us a tax break. He did.

Yes, anything for a buck in your pocket. The fact that the deficit just
ballooned to $800 bil this year, $1 tril next year, who cares, let
somebody else pay in the future. Only problem, that day is approaching
faster than you think.



He supports our
> troops,

"Sure he does. John McCain is no war hero, I prefer the vets who were
not captured." He's said his sexcapades screwing porn stars was like
serving in Vietnam.

and has put money behind that promise. He is bringing jobs back
> to the US,

No evidence of that. HD for just announced it's moving production
overseas because of Trump's trade war. Trump is having to bailout the
farmers with $12 bil just to keep jobs and save their asses. BMW
announced they will build the electric X3 in China instead of SC
and China has invited them to up their ownnership in their China
subsidiary. We are creating jobs at about the same rate as we did in
the last two years of the Obama administration. The only difference
is that back then Trump told you that 178K new jobs a month was horrific,
a depression and now he tells you it's an economic turnaround of historic
proportions, and you believe him. That's what he said Friday, that this
"turnaround" is of historic proportions, just because we hit 4.1% GDP
one quarter. We hit that and higher 4 quarters under Obama, but I guess
that was no good because Obama was black and born in Kenya.

> and Korean War veteran remains are being returned to the US.

It's nothing new. NK has done it before, many times. They use handing
over 55 remains as a bargaining chip, ransom if you will. It's a good
thing and of course Trump can't keep himself from bragging about it,
making sure everyone knows he's taking full credit for it. Is he
taking credit for NK continuing it's nuke development?

> He is making other countries pay their fair share of money at NATO,

Show us the numbers that have changed since Trump took office. And
meanwhile, he's undermining NATO, just like Putin wants done. He
threw Montenegro under the bus last week, questioning if the US would
come to their aid if attacked, calling them "aggressive people", who
could start WWIII. And there isn't anything really going on there,
all that Trump rhetoric, destructive BS, came from a simple hypothetical
question the other day. Trump couldn't even find Montenegro on a map.

and
> numerous other things he is doing to improve American lives.

Yes, like dividing the country for his own political purposes,
saying there were very fine people marching with Nazis and the KKK,
vilifying our intel agencies, the DOJ, FBI, while siding with Russia.

>
> https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/year-one-list-81-major-trump-achievements-11-obama-legacy-items-repealed
>
> I still support him,

No surprise there. You told us he's telling the truth about meeting Putin
at 60 Minutes because the segments happened to air on TV the same night.
When you're that stupid, that far in the tank, so brainwashed, you're one
of those people he talked about when he said he could shoot someone on
fifth ave and you'd still love him.

and it looks like even many former democrats are
> walking away from the left.
>
> --
> Maggie

We'll see how that goes in November.

[BurfordTJustice]

Running your mouth about the Yanks while ignoring the shit
at home tells all what they need to know about you.





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[BurfordTJustice]

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[Bob F]

On 7/30/2018 3:57 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 11:54:05 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
>> On 7/29/2018 5:32 PM, philo wrote:
>>> On 7/29/2018 5:14 PM, trader_4 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/americans-wary-of-trump-tariffs-impact-but-support-plan-to-aid-farmers-cbs-poll/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 91% of Strong Trump supporters trust Trump for their news
>>>>
>>>> while only 11% trust the mainstream media.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, they trust a prolific liar, who's lies are exposed almost daily.
>>>> When your "truth" is coming from Trump, you're obviously so compromised
>>>> that you're beyond clueless.  Muggles is a classic example.  She says
>>>> that the whopping lie Trump told America at the debate about meeting
>>>> Putin at 60 Minutes, "we were stablemates", is true because the totally
>>>> separate segments happened to air on TV the same night, so that makes
>>>> it truthful.  Once again, I now understand how guys like Hitler managed
>>>> to seduce and brainwash a nation, it's happening right before our eyes.
>>>> He's completely flipped the GOP.  They used to be the party that viewed
>>>> Russia as our enemy, was opposed to big govt, was opposed to deficit and
>>>> piling on the national debt, was opposed to tariffs and bailouts, the
>>>> govt picking winners and losers.  Trump comes along and flips all that
>>>> and they are all on board.  It's quite stunning.
>>
>>
>>> As a Democrat I am fine with those with a conservative view...I share a
>>> lot .
>>>
>>> Trump is just plain wacked. Hard to believe 40% or so still support him.
>>
>> Trump said he would give us a tax break. He did.

If you make a few million a year. Wages are dropping for most.

>
> Yes, anything for a buck in your pocket. The fact that the deficit just
> ballooned to $800 bil this year, $1 tril next year, who cares, let
> somebody else pay in the future. Only problem, that day is approaching
> faster than you think.
>

Don't worry. They can make it up by screwing over retired people
counting on medicare and social security, and poor people.

And huge numbers of former Repubs are fleeing that party.

[Bob F]

I have a much better understanding now about how Hitler could ever have
come to power. Trump may not be there yet, but he's using the same set
of tools.

[trader_4]

The Trump tax cuts did put at least a few hundred bucks in many people's
pockets, others, especially if you have plenty of kids, got a couple
thousand. It wasn't just millionaires. It's a funny thing with libs,
anytime they want to raise taxes, it's tax the rich. Anytime there is
talk of a tax reduction, then it's no, can't cut taxes on the rich.
That process, repeated, would lead to 100% tax, which, I guess is what
you want. The top 1% of earners are paying 40% of all income tax, the
top 5% are paying 60%. I've asked before, how much more do you want?

There should be a one time setting of the income tax curve and then
it should be left alone. If there is going to be a tax cut, then it
should be applied uniformly across that curve. The curve should be
set maybe once every 30 years, not fiddled with for partisan purposes
any time taxes are to be raised or lowered.


I'd love to see a cite for the wages are dropping claim. The data
I've seen shows the opposite, that median family income is rising.

> >
> > Yes, anything for a buck in your pocket. The fact that the deficit just
> > ballooned to $800 bil this year, $1 tril next year, who cares, let
> > somebody else pay in the future. Only problem, that day is approaching
> > faster than you think.
> >
>
> Don't worry. They can make it up by screwing over retired people
> counting on medicare and social security, and poor people.

I didn't see you complaining about the coming screwing when Obama
was running up $700 bil a year deficits five years into a recovery,
adding $10 tril to the national debt, doubling it. What did the libs
do? They used the horrific one time $1.4 tril deficit in 2009 to
compare their deficits to, saying, look how great we're doing now,
it's only $700 bil. That was one of the most despicable deceptions
in history. And part of that $1.4 tril was TARP loans that were repaid,
so the deficit wasn't really that big to begin with. It's like a
family saying, "see how great we're doing, we're only running up $25K
in credit card debt this year, not the $50K a year we were running up ten
years ago when our house burned down and we lost our jobs."

[Terry Coombs]

  Which is why they're becoming more and more strident and vicious .
And the more vicious they get the more people jump ship ... I think they
call that a positive feedback loop .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety .
Get off my lawn !

[ZZyXX]

A typical case of Obama derangement syndrome. Reptards always pivot to
Obama or Hillary when they have no way to defend Trump. It's the
first sign of defeat.

[trader_4]

I wonder if Trump had concentration camps and he simply said that any reports
in the media about them were fake news, if the trumpets would believe that
too? It worked for Hitler. A lot of Germans knew about the concentration
camps. You can't move 6 million people across countries, using trains
and all that goes with it, without people knowing. But somehow, they just
lived in an alternate reality, where they didn't care. Like Uncle would
say, how does that affect you? Has it made you any richer or poorer?
Affected your life in any way? So, why do you care?

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 7/30/2018 6:12 PM, trader_4 wrote:

>
> Like Uncle would
> say, how does that affect you? Has it made you any richer or poorer?
> Affected your life in any way? So, why do you care?
>

Exactly the attitude that allows dictators to do as they please with
control and power. Don't bother me and I don't care who gets robbed,
deported. killed, or imprisoned.

[Uncle Monster]

It's obviously affected your brain. Mental illness is rampant among those of your ilk. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Observant Monster

[Uncle Monster]

President Trump is ready to suspend The Constitution at any moment. Anyone who fails to swear allegiance to Supreme Leader Trump will be sent to concentration camps for extermination. All Hail Trump!! It's a new age! ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Safe Monster

[Muggles]

How many times have you told a lie on purpose? Have you lied to your
wife on purpose? Lied to friends, or your children on purpose? Do
people support you despite you being a known liar?


When you lie, do you do it with a straight face? Did you plan on lying,
or just went with the flow because a lie is easier to tell than the truth?

--
Maggie

[Muggles]

yeah ... #MAGA #walkaway #walkwayfromHollywood


--
Maggie

[Bob F]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/15/for-the-biggest-group-of-american-workers-wages-arent-just-flat-theyre-falling/?utm_term=.7b510264efa4

[Ed Pawlowski]

Supporting a know liar just shows your own moral compass need some tuning.

Yes, I lied to my kids that Santa brought some gifts. No, I don't lie
to my wife, employees, business associates.

It may be easier to lie at times, but for the POTUS to lie is immoral
and unethical and shows he does not have the balls to be truthful. He
should not be trusted and should not be President.

[Bob F]

It does say a lot that trumpies think lying if perfectly OK for their
president.

They even seem to think that incredibly stupid lying is fine. Continuous
lies that video easily refutes.

[Colonel Edmund J. Burke]

On 7/29/2018 3:14 PM, trader_4 wrote:
>
>
> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/americans-wary-of-trump-tariffs-impact-but-support-plan-to-aid-farmers-cbs-poll/
>
>
> 91% of Strong Trump supporters trust Trump for their news
>
> while only 11% trust the mainstream media.
>
>
> So, they trust a prolific liar, who's lies are exposed almost daily.
> When your "truth" is coming from Trump, you're obviously so compromised
> that you're beyond clueless. Muggles is a classic example. She says
> that the whopping lie Trump told America at the debate about meeting
> Putin at 60 Minutes, "we were stablemates", is true because the totally
> separate segments happened to air on TV the same night, so that makes
> it truthful. Once again, I now understand how guys like Hitler managed
> to seduce and brainwash a nation, it's happening right before our eyes.
> He's completely flipped the GOP. They used to be the party that viewed
> Russia as our enemy, was opposed to big govt, was opposed to deficit and
> piling on the national debt, was opposed to tariffs and bailouts, the
> govt picking winners and losers. Trump comes along and flips all that
> and they are all on board. It's quite stunning.
>
>
>

So is this: https://tinyurl.com/ydgvmzsj

[Muggles]

On 7/30/2018 8:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/30/2018 8:50 PM, Muggles wrote:
>> On 7/30/2018 12:31 AM, Bod wrote:
>>> On 30/07/2018 04:54, Muggles wrote:
>>
>>>> I still support him, and it looks like even many former democrats are
>>>> walking away from the left.
>>
>>
>>>   Suppoting a known pathelogical liar says a lot about you.
>>
>>
>>
>> How many times have you told a lie on purpose?  Have you lied to your
>> wife on purpose?  Lied to friends, or your children on purpose?  Do
>> people support you despite you being a known liar?
>>
>>
>> When you lie, do you do it with a straight face?  Did you plan on lying,
>> or just went with the flow because a lie is easier to tell than the
>> truth?
>>
> Supporting a know liar just shows your own moral compass need some tuning.


> Yes, I lied to my kids that Santa brought some gifts.  No, I don't lie
> to my wife, employees, business associates.

If you lied at all, it makes you a liar. If you lie about one thing,
how do I know you're telling the truth, now? Should I take your word
for it?

> It may be easier to lie at times, but for the POTUS to lie is immoral
> and unethical and shows he does not have the balls to be truthful.  He
> should not be trusted and should not be President.

I don't know of anyone who hasn't lied about something. The point
being, a lie is in the eye of the beholder quite often. What one person
sees as "changing one's mind" someone else will call that a lie. Some
people tend to see a statement as being equal to a commitment to action,
and if that action is not followed through with - they call that a lie,
too. Many people also believe a lie is a lie is a lie, and there is no
good lie at all. What about lie's told to protect someone's feelings,
or some other necessary reason people give to tell a lie? Are they all
bad people because they LIED?? Are you a bad person because you lied?

The President said when he was campaigning that he would do certain
things if elected. He IS doing those things. The promises he's made
that requires the cooperation of Congress when they aren't cooperating
doesn't mean he is lying - he is doing his job to make those things come
to pass.

You want to call him a liar, I could also call you a liar, too, and I'd
be accurate to do that because you've lied in the past, and will
probably do it in the future, too. Is lying a bad? It depends on who
you ask and which lie someone is telling.

Who are you to judge me for supporting President Trump for KEEPING his
campaign promises just because you think him lying is worse than you lying.

--
Maggie

[trader_4]

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 11:27:57 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
> On 7/30/2018 8:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 7/30/2018 8:50 PM, Muggles wrote:
> >> On 7/30/2018 12:31 AM, Bod wrote:
> >>> On 30/07/2018 04:54, Muggles wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I still support him, and it looks like even many former democrats are
> >>>> walking away from the left.
> >>
> >>
> >>>   Suppoting a known pathelogical liar says a lot about you.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> How many times have you told a lie on purpose?  Have you lied to your
> >> wife on purpose?  Lied to friends, or your children on purpose?  Do
> >> people support you despite you being a known liar?
> >>
> >>
> >> When you lie, do you do it with a straight face?  Did you plan on lying,
> >> or just went with the flow because a lie is easier to tell than the
> >> truth?
> >>
> > Supporting a know liar just shows your own moral compass need some tuning.
>
>
> > Yes, I lied to my kids that Santa brought some gifts.  No, I don't lie
> > to my wife, employees, business associates.
>
> If you lied at all, it makes you a liar. If you lie about one thing,
> how do I know you're telling the truth, now? Should I take your word
> for it?

Why don't you apply that logic to Trump and what you hear from him?

>
> > It may be easier to lie at times, but for the POTUS to lie is immoral
> > and unethical and shows he does not have the balls to be truthful.  He
> > should not be trusted and should not be President.
>
> I don't know of anyone who hasn't lied about something. The point
> being, a lie is in the eye of the beholder quite often. What one person
> sees as "changing one's mind" someone else will call that a lie.

Please. Do you think everyone here is stupid? Trump has lied about
one FACTUAL thing after another. My personal favorite is him lying
at the GOP debate about meeting Putin at 60 Minutes. He said he got
to know him, "we were stablemates". It was a total lie, a factual lie,
not an opinion. And being a loyal trumpet dupe, what did you do? You
tried to tell us that Trump was being truthful, because the segments
happened to air on TV the same night! That was a beautiful demonstration
of Trump the liar and you trumpets just disgracing yourselves, joining
him in his lies, in the gutter. He lied about there being no meetings
with any Russians during the campaign. Then, when the evidence proved
that was a lie, Trump personally drafted the lies to the press to try
to cover it. The first lie lasted just a day, the second attempt went
down in flames about two days later. He lied about having the biggest
electoral college win since Reagan. That went on for days, despite
people pointing out that it wasn't true.

Some
> people tend to see a statement as being equal to a commitment to action,
> and if that action is not followed through with - they call that a lie,
> too. Many people also believe a lie is a lie is a lie, and there is no
> good lie at all. What about lie's told to protect someone's feelings,
> or some other necessary reason people give to tell a lie? Are they all
> bad people because they LIED?? Are you a bad person because you lied?
>
> The President said when he was campaigning that he would do certain
> things if elected. He IS doing those things.

He's done some of them, yes. The problem is the price we're paying
is way to high. You can choose to sell your sole to the devil to
get some of what you want, I won't. And I predicted that the blowback
to this all will result in conservatives and the GOP being banished
to the wilderness for a generation, possibly forever. Americans
tend not to like traitors, liars, and shysters who divide the country
for their own purposes. I predict that banishment will begin in
November.

The promises he's made
> that requires the cooperation of Congress when they aren't cooperating
> doesn't mean he is lying - he is doing his job to make those things come
> to pass.
>
> You want to call him a liar, I could also call you a liar, too, and I'd
> be accurate to do that because you've lied in the past, and will
> probably do it in the future, too. Is lying a bad? It depends on who
> you ask and which lie someone is telling.

Like Ed said, there is a difference between lying about where you
were when you went out to buy your wife her Christmas present and
lying about meetings with Putin, meetings with Russia, your historical
record, etc. Sure Americans can excuse a lie or two in their leaders.
But that isn't what we are witnessing. We have a pathological liar
in the oval office and that isn't his only despicable trait.

>
> Who are you to judge me for supporting President Trump for KEEPING his
> campaign promises just because you think him lying is worse than you lying.
>
> --
> Maggie

He attacks war vets, degrades all POWs, mocks a disabled reporter's
disabilities, lies, says there were very fine people marching with
Nazis and the KKK, plays footsie with white supremacist, savagely
attacks anyone who doesn't heap praise on him. Are those
your good Christian values?

[Shadow]

On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 17:56:03 -0700, Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I'd love to see a cite for the wages are dropping claim. The data
>> I've seen shows the opposite, that median family income is rising.
>>
>
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/15/for-the-biggest-group-of-american-workers-wages-arent-just-flat-theyre-falling/

//The average hourly wage paid to a key group of American workers has
fallen from last year when accounting for inflation, as an economy
that appears strong by several measures continues to fail to create
bigger paychecks, the federal government said Tuesday.

For workers in production and nonsupervisory positions, the value of
the average paycheck has declined in the past year. For those workers,
average real wages, a measure of pay that takes inflation into account
, fell from $22.62 in May 2017 to $22.59 in May 2018, the Bureau of
Labor Statistics said.

This pool of workers includes those in manufacturing and construction
jobs, as well as all nonsupervisory workers in service industries such
health care or fast food. The group accounts for about FOUR FIFTHS of
all privately employed workers in America, according to BLS.//

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Those stats come directly from Trump's government. So they
can't possibly be a lie, right ? 80% of the private sector had a fall
in income. The ones that need money most.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

[Shadow]

On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 19:50:02 -0500, Muggles
<cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:

>On 7/30/2018 12:31 AM, Bod wrote:
>> On 30/07/2018 04:54, Muggles wrote:
>
>>> I still support him, and it looks like even many former democrats are
>>> walking away from the left.
>
>
>>  Suppoting a known pathelogical liar says a lot about you.
>
>
>
>How many times have you told a lie on purpose?

Under oath, to a judge, ????
Never ....
And you Trumpets ? Let me guess, every other day ?

[trader_4]

I'm sure they can still find a way to blame Obama or Hillary. It's an
interesting find Bob made, I had not seen that before and it's certainly
not what you'd expect with an economy that's growing and very low
unemployment. Wages better start picking up or else when the upcoming
inflation numbers that start to show the effects of Trump's trade war,
will bring real wages down.

[Muggles]

On 7/31/2018 8:49 AM, Shadow wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 19:50:02 -0500, Muggles
> <cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:
>
>> On 7/30/2018 12:31 AM, Bod wrote:
>>> On 30/07/2018 04:54, Muggles wrote:
>>
>>>> I still support him, and it looks like even many former democrats are
>>>> walking away from the left.
>>
>>
>>>  Suppoting a known pathelogical liar says a lot about you.
>>
>>
>>
>> How many times have you told a lie on purpose?


> Under oath, to a judge, ????
> Never ....

Can you prove that?


--
Maggie

[trader_4]

Nice try. It's difficult to impossible to prove a negative. In the case
of Trump, we have lie after lie after lie, all documented and proven.
Unlike any other president in US history.

[Muggles]

On 7/31/2018 9:30 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 10:17:30 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
>> On 7/31/2018 8:49 AM, Shadow wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 19:50:02 -0500, Muggles
>>> <cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/30/2018 12:31 AM, Bod wrote:
>>>>> On 30/07/2018 04:54, Muggles wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I still support him, and it looks like even many former democrats are
>>>>>> walking away from the left.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  Suppoting a known pathelogical liar says a lot about you.


>>>> How many times have you told a lie on purpose?


>>> Under oath, to a judge, ????
>>> Never ....


>> Can you prove that?


>

> Nice try. It's difficult to impossible to prove a negative. In the case
> of Trump, we have lie after lie after lie, all documented and proven.
> Unlike any other president in US history.

Can you prove Trump is a pathological liar?

--
Maggie

[Shadow]

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:17:26 -0500, Muggles

<cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:

>On 7/31/2018 8:49 AM, Shadow wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 19:50:02 -0500, Muggles
>> <cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/30/2018 12:31 AM, Bod wrote:
>>>> On 30/07/2018 04:54, Muggles wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I still support him, and it looks like even many former democrats are
>>>>> walking away from the left.
>>>
>>>
>>>>  Suppoting a known pathelogical liar says a lot about you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How many times have you told a lie on purpose?
>
>
>> Under oath, to a judge, ????
>> Never ....

No.
But I can prove Trump's people did. So can you, if you bother
to read #REAL_NEWS.

[Bob F]

The new jobs are all garbage, minimum wage jobs. More people have jobs
that leave them still in financial trouble, It's the Repub way. Give
huge tax breaks to the people that absolutely don't need it at all, and
screw everybody that does need help. If you help the poorer people, they
spend the money and it grows the economy - the rich just stash their tax
cuts in the Cayman Islands and it does nothing for the economy..

[Bod]

> When President Trump sat down with the New York Times for an
interview recently, he said something untrue about every 75 seconds.

That’s not just the usual political boasting and grandstanding. Those
were actual, verifiable claims which professional fact checkers
investigated and found to be untrue.

http://time.com/5084420/donald-trump-lies-claims-fact-checks/

--
Bod

[Muggles]

On 7/31/2018 9:39 AM, Shadow wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:17:26 -0500, Muggles
> <cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:
>
>> On 7/31/2018 8:49 AM, Shadow wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 19:50:02 -0500, Muggles
>>> <cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/30/2018 12:31 AM, Bod wrote:
>>>>> On 30/07/2018 04:54, Muggles wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I still support him, and it looks like even many former democrats are
>>>>>> walking away from the left.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  Suppoting a known pathelogical liar says a lot about you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How many times have you told a lie on purpose?
>>
>>
>>> Under oath, to a judge, ????
>>> Never ....

>> Can you prove that?

> No.
> But I can prove Trump's people did. So can you, if you bother
> to read #REAL_NEWS.
> []'s

Everyone lies. It is not a surprise when anyone tells a lie, either,
and they lie for any number of reasons even when telling the truth is
easier. People like their secrets, they'll protect themselves and
others, and it is not something that shocks me.

Is lying bad, or evil, or even unusual? It depends.

--
Maggie

[Muggles]

gee ... He's got to be the first human being on the face of the earth
to engage in hyperbole, opinion, disagreement on some issue, or make a
mistake in front of others. He should be tarred and feathered for not
being a smooth talking, perfect speech-giving, old-school career
politician. Heaven forbid an imperfect human white male win the office
of US President.

--
Maggie

[republi-CAN]

On 7/31/2018 10:38 AM, Bob F wrote:
> If you help the poorer people, they spend the money and it grows the economy

So you want to tax a working person more and then give the money to a lazy welfare democrat?  Fuck that!

*If they want to make more money, they can get an education.  If they think an education is too expensive, try should compare it to the cost of ignorance.*

[Bod]

> Like I said in my previous post, you just argue for the sake of it
and nothing will shift you from your obstinate tunnel vision stance.

--
Bod

[Muggles]

Geee ... do you think anything will shift you from your obstinate tunnel
vision stance? I get that you don't like my supporting President Trump,
but you should understand that I don't care what you like.

--
Maggie

[Bod]

> I'm talking about when I show you indisputable facts, like Trump's
constant lying.

--
Bod

[Bod]

> Added to that, in a post a few posts ago, I gave you the benefit of
doubt about Trump's 81 achievements, so I try to be fair.

--
Bod

[Muggles]

Everyone lies, Bod. The problem is that everyone also has a different
perspective on what constitutes a lie, and with that perspective comes
the individual conclusion and viewpoints as to whether or not that
interpreted "lie" was either evil, less than evil (just bad), or
justified. You can spin the information any way you please to also
justify your conclusions, but don't expect me to take that ride
alongside of you.

If you don't like my viewpoint or my perspective, block me versus
accusing me having obstinate tunnel vision or just arguing for the sake
of arguing, as IF, you aren't guilty of those very same things, yourself.

Seriously, if you only intend on gouging me because I support my
President, I don't need to keep interacting with you. If you are
interested in discussion, then by all means, let's interact.

--
Maggie

[Muggles]

If you were trying to be fair, you wouldn't be making some of the nasty
off the cuff remarks you've been making when responding to me. Make up
your mind. Either you're fair, or you're just out to slam me because I
support Trump.

--
Maggie

[Bod]

> I'm not "gouging" you.
I thought that Trump's original tax cuts were sensible and good, but I
shudder the way he mouth's off, seemingly with whatever comes into his
head at the time. Calling the whole continent of Africa a shithole was
an awful way to speak of other countries. He's insulted too many people
as well.

--
Bod

[trader_4]

It's been well proven, well documented. Obviously you have no interest
in the truth or you'd know. Just google list of Trump's lies, it's long
and documented. And one of the best examples of a pathological liar
is Trump lying to America at the GOP debate, claiming that he met
Putin, got to know him, when they did 60 Minutes together. Total,
outrageous, lie for no reason, the hallmark of a pathological liar.

And what did you do? You tried to tell us he was telling the truth,
because his 60 min segment aired the same night as Putin's on TV!

Trump and the trumpets, perfect together

[angelica...@yahoo.com]

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 11:48:58 AM UTC-4, republi-CAN wrote:
> On 7/31/2018 10:38 AM, Bob F wrote:
> > If you help the poorer people, they spend the money and it grows the economy
>
> So you want to tax a working person more and then give the money to a lazy welfare democrat?  Fuck that!

I want to tax the people who make money by moving money around, and
spend it on useful stuff like fixing bridges that are about to fall
down, curing diseases, and keeping the environment from being
trashed. And, yes, making sure that people working shitty jobs
can afford health care.

Full disclosure: I think I got a nice tax cut from Trump, because
my house is paid for and I take the standard deduction. It's not
worth saddling the future with a huge national debt.


Cindy Hamilton

[Uncle Monster]

Traitor_4ever is like all Commiecrats. He won't put his money where his mouth is. He won't run for public office, go to Washington D.C. and fix everything. We need the smartest most morally superior people in Washington D.C. running things and saving the country. O_o

[8~{} Uncle Curious Monster

[Uncle Monster]

Why haven't you and Traitor_4ever gone to Washington D.C., taken over and fixed everything? We need the smartest most morally superior people in Washington D.C. running the country. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Curious Monster

[Bod]

> I'll always give my honest opinion of Trump. I admit that I don't
like him or his attitude, his rudeness/narcissism etc. I and many others
find him obnoxious.

--
Bod

[Muggles]

That's a matter of perspective, isn't it?

> I thought that Trump's original tax cuts were sensible and good, but I
> shudder the way he mouth's off, seemingly with whatever comes into his
> head at the time.

That is not a disqualifying factor to serve as president. Everyone has
personality quirks, and yet, they still manage to function quite well in
normal society despite those quirks.

> Calling the whole continent of Africa a shithole was

Whether or not you agree with him calling some African countries
"shithole's" is irrelevant. Everyone is entitled to their opinions on
such things, and so is President Trump. I happen to agree with him that
some African countries ARE "shitholes," per his description, therefore,
I see his representation as being accurate - not aweful.

> an awful way to speak of other countries. He's insulted too many people
> as well

So, people can get happy in the same pants they get insulted in ... He
isn't serving as our President so he can please everyone with every word
he utters.

--
Maggie

[Muggles]

+100

--
Maggie

[Muggles]

Well, it's your lucky day, then, because he isn't your President - he's
mine and America's president. I don't mind his attitude or his
personality traits, either, because they assist him in doing his job.

If you're so open for discussion, you should also be open to be wrong
and accept that MANY people feel the total opposite about Trump than you
feel. That's how he got elected, and why many more people are leaving
the left and moving over to the RED wave side.

--
Maggie

[Uncle Monster]

Did he say anything that wasn't true? Has anyone suffered any harm from anything that President Trump has said? Have any of his insults or perceived inappropriate statements killed or harmed anyone? Did he hurt YOUR feelings? Has anyone jumped into a shithole and suffocated because of what Trump has said? Are you a delicate snowflake who's easily hurt by what others may say? Are you sexually attracted to Donald Trump? Is your sexual attraction the reason you constantly write posts that are critical of President Trump? ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Curious Monster

[Bod]

> Only the lowest of the low would openly say what he said about
Africa. It's akin to saying to a womans face that she's an ugly
bitch...get it?

--
Bod

[Muggles]

geez, Bod ... many people think various countries in Africa are
****holes. That's because they ARE!

> It's akin to saying to a womans face that she's an ugly bitch...get it?

No, it's NOT akin to that ... hyperbole much?


--
Maggie

[Uncle Monster]

So you're an ugly bitch. Now I understand. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Observant Monster

[Shadow]

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:56:34 -0500, Muggles
<cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:

>Heaven forbid an imperfect human white male win the office
>of US President.

+10 on "imperfect".
Sht, I'd go with "downright faulty in every way" from the
imaginary bone spurs in his heels through his tendency to rape minors
and onto to his pompous orange wig.

As to color, all of the worst presidents the US has ever had
were white. But I don't think it's relevant, as the majority of the
more patriotic and competent ones were white too.
Why did you mention color ? It's irrelevant.

[Shadow]

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:48:51 -0400, republi-CAN
<repub...@get-r-dun.com> wrote:

>On 7/31/2018 10:38 AM, Bob F wrote:
>> If you help the poorer people, they spend the money and it grows the economy
>
>So you want to tax a working person more and then give the money to a lazy welfare democrat

No. The stats show that people that actually WORK are earning
less (80% of the WORK force).
The lazy people that live off interest and state handouts
(over half of taxes go to "contractors") earn more. Here's the article
again:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/15/for-the-biggest-group-of-american-workers-wages-arent-just-flat-theyre-falling/

Read it this time.

[Shadow]

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:18:32 -0500, Muggles
<cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:

> I get that you don't like my supporting President Trump,
>but you should understand that I don't care what you like.

IOW, "I don't care what the facts are. Anything Trump says
will always be good enough for me".
I'd pity you, if you hadn't mentioned earlier you make a
living off scamming people. What was it ? Insurance ? Loans ?

[Shadow]

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:39:23 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
<uncl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>We need the smartest most morally superior people in Washington D.C. running things and saving the country.

So not Trump OR Hillary.
Who did you vote for ?

[Shadow]

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:57:54 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
<uncl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Did he say anything that wasn't true?

Yes, everything from "I never raped minors", "I don't screw my
daughter" to "I didn't fix the elections with Putin" through "I have
spurs on my feet, so I can't serve my country". Over a thousand lies
that DID damage America's reputation in under ONE YEAR.
You have become a laughing stock of the world.
BTW, China's GNP overtakes the US's next year, a year earlier
than predicted. Exempting rich people from paying taxes has never made
a country richer. It tends to bankrupt it.

[Uncle Monster]

So what makes you believe that you're so important? o_O

[8~{} Uncle Curious Monster

[Muggles]

On 7/31/2018 12:37 PM, Shadow wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:56:34 -0500, Muggles
> <cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:
>
>> Heaven forbid an imperfect human white male win the office
>> of US President.


> +10 on "imperfect".
> Sht, I'd go with "downright faulty in every way" from the
> imaginary bone spurs in his heels through his tendency to rape minors
> and onto to his pompous orange wig.

Gee ... try looking in a mirror every once in a while if you are
feeling a bit judgey. You can say all sorts of things without any of
them being true. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, though.

> As to color, all of the worst presidents the US has ever had
> were white. But I don't think it's relevant, as the majority of the
> more patriotic and competent ones were white too.
> Why did you mention color ? It's irrelevant.
> []'s

There's nothing wrong with being a white male, and nothing wrong with
mentioning our president is a white male, either. Do you have something
against white males?

--
Maggie

[Muggles]

On 7/31/2018 12:48 PM, Shadow wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:18:32 -0500, Muggles
> <cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:


>> I get that you don't like my supporting President Trump,
>> but you should understand that I don't care what you like.


> IOW, "I don't care what the facts are. Anything Trump says
> will always be good enough for me".

Funny thing is, I don't listen to every word President Trump utters ...
Don't need to.

> I'd pity you, if you hadn't mentioned earlier you make a
> living off scamming people. What was it ? Insurance ? Loans ?
> []'s
>

Not I ... you must be thinking of someone else.

--
Maggie

[angelica...@yahoo.com]

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:49:52 PM UTC-4, Shadow wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:18:32 -0500, Muggles
> <cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:
>
> > I get that you don't like my supporting President Trump,
> >but you should understand that I don't care what you like.
>
> IOW, "I don't care what the facts are. Anything Trump says
> will always be good enough for me".
> I'd pity you, if you hadn't mentioned earlier you make a
> living off scamming people. What was it ? Insurance ? Loans ?

Marketing, I believe.

Cindy Hamilton

[trader_4]

The problem is that every one of those that support Trump here are
like you. Totally wrong on the facts and totally delusional. Trump
lied to America, said he met Putin at 60 Minutes, "we were stablemates". When it turns out that was a total, BS lie, one
told for no apparent reason, what did you do? You tried to tell
us that it was the truth because the segments happened to air the
same night on TV. So, when your facts, your truth are based on
BS and lies, then your opinions and your "truths" are worthless.
That's Trump's whole method. Anything that doesn't reflect favorably
on him, he just lies, calls fake news. And you do the same, in
his defense.

[trader_4]

> --
> Maggie

It's way more than hyperbole, it's flat out lies. And if he's made mistakes
maybe you can point us to some of the Trump apologies? Did he apologize
to the POWs? To the Arabs after he falsely accused them of dancing in the
streets of Jersey City, thousands and thousands of them on 9/11?
Did he apologize to the disabled reporter for mocking him? Did he
apologize for saying there were very fine people marching with Nazis
and the KKK in VA? Where are the apologies?

That must be some religion and good Christian church you go to. Is
that the values, the way to go through life that they teach?

[trader_4]

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 10:37:59 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
> On 7/31/2018 9:30 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 10:17:30 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
> >> On 7/31/2018 8:49 AM, Shadow wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 19:50:02 -0500, Muggles
> >>> <cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 7/30/2018 12:31 AM, Bod wrote:
> >>>>> On 30/07/2018 04:54, Muggles wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> I still support him, and it looks like even many former democrats are
> >>>>>> walking away from the left.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>  Suppoting a known pathelogical liar says a lot about you.
>
>
> >>>> How many times have you told a lie on purpose?
>
>
> >>> Under oath, to a judge, ????
> >>> Never ....
>
>
> >> Can you prove that?
>
>
> >
> > Nice try. It's difficult to impossible to prove a negative. In the case
> > of Trump, we have lie after lie after lie, all documented and proven.
> > Unlike any other president in US history.
>
>
> Can you prove Trump is a pathological liar?
>

> --
> Maggie

IT's proven, just google for the list of all his lies. The lie about
knowing Putin, meeting him at 60 Mins, "we were stablemates", is
exactly what a pathological liar does. And what did you do? You
posted here that it wasn't a lie, because the two separate segments
happened to air on TV the same night. Nuff said about you and your
credibility. Trump lies and you swear to it.

[trader_4]

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 12:18:35 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
> On 7/31/2018 11:00 AM, Bod wrote:

> > On 31/07/2018 15:56, Muggles wrote:
> >> On 7/31/2018 9:44 AM, Bod wrote:

> >>> On 31/07/2018 15:37, Muggles wrote:
> >>>> On 7/31/2018 9:30 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 10:17:30 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
> >>>>>> On 7/31/2018 8:49 AM, Shadow wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 19:50:02 -0500, Muggles
> >>>>>>> <cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 7/30/2018 12:31 AM, Bod wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2018 04:54, Muggles wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I still support him, and it looks like even many former
> >>>>>>>>>> democrats are
> >>>>>>>>>> walking away from the left.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>    Suppoting a known pathelogical liar says a lot about you.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> How many times have you told a lie on purpose?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>      Under oath, to a judge, ????
> >>>>>>>      Never ....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Can you prove that?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nice try.  It's difficult to impossible to prove a negative.  In the
> >>>>> case
> >>>>> of Trump, we have lie after lie after lie, all documented and proven.
> >>>>> Unlike any other president in US history.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you prove Trump is a pathological liar?
> >>>>
> >>

> >>> When President Trump sat down with the New York Times for an interview
> >>> recently, he said something untrue about every 75 seconds.
> >>>
> >>> That’s not just the usual political boasting and grandstanding. Those
> >>> were actual, verifiable claims which professional fact checkers
> >>> investigated and found to be untrue.
> >>>
> >>> http://time.com/5084420/donald-trump-lies-claims-fact-checks/
>
>
> >> gee ...  He's got to be the first human being on the face of the earth
> >> to engage in hyperbole, opinion, disagreement on some issue, or make a
> >> mistake in front of others.   He should be tarred and feathered for not
> >> being a smooth talking, perfect speech-giving, old-school career
> >> politician.  Heaven forbid an imperfect human white male win the office
> >> of US President.
> >>
>
>
>

> > Like I said in my previous post, you just argue for the sake of it and
> > nothing will shift you from your obstinate tunnel vision stance.
>
> Geee ... do you think anything will shift you from your obstinate tunnel
> vision stance? I get that you don't like my supporting President Trump,
> but you should understand that I don't care what you like.
>

> --
> Maggie

It isn't an issue of what Bod likes or dislikes. It's an issue that
Trump tells one lie after another. They have been fact checked and
found to be untrue. THAT is indisputable. Now Bod and I happen to
not like that. I would think that being a good Christian, with all
those good Christian values, you would find lying wrong too. But
instead you try to justify it as normal. Must be one hell of a
church and religion.

[trader_4]

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 12:30:27 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
> On 7/31/2018 11:23 AM, Bod wrote:

> >>  > I'm talking about when I show you indisputable facts, like Trump's
> >> constant lying.
> >>
> >
>
>
> > Added to that, in a post a few posts ago, I gave you the benefit of
> > doubt about Trump's 81 achievements, so I try to be fair.
>
> If you were trying to be fair, you wouldn't be making some of the nasty
> off the cuff remarks you've been making when responding to me. Make up
> your mind. Either you're fair, or you're just out to slam me because I
> support Trump.
>

> --
> Maggie

I don't see Bod doing much slamming. But if he is slamming you,
it's because you're another shyster and village idiot. That's what anyone
is that says Trump wasn't lying about meeting Putin on 60 Mins

because the segments happened to air the same night on TV.

Nuff said. That wasn't a slam because you support Trump, it's
a slam because of the stupid post you made, trying to shyster
for Trump.

[trader_4]

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 12:28:55 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:

> Everyone lies, Bod. The problem is that everyone also has a different
> perspective on what constitutes a lie, and with that perspective comes
> the individual conclusion and viewpoints as to whether or not that
> interpreted "lie" was either evil, less than evil (just bad), or
> justified. You can spin the information any way you please to also
> justify your conclusions, but don't expect me to take that ride
> alongside of you.
>
> If you don't like my viewpoint or my perspective, block me versus
> accusing me having obstinate tunnel vision or just arguing for the sake
> of arguing, as IF, you aren't guilty of those very same things, yourself.
>
> Seriously, if you only intend on gouging me because I support my
> President, I don't need to keep interacting with you. If you are
> interested in discussion, then by all means, let's interact.
>

> --
> Maggie

We don't "gouge" you because you support Trump. We gouge you
because you're the village idiot as evidenced by the stupid
posts you make. Like the one where you say Trump wasn't lying
about meeting Putin at 60 Mins because the totally separate
segments, filmed different times, different places, happened
to air the same night on TV. That confirmed forever your
status as a village idiot.

[trader_4]

Uh, no they don't. Trump isn't functioning well. In fact,
it's quite obvious that he's not well mentally. A well
functioning person, especially a leader doesn't piss off,
make enemies of virtually everyone he meets. Congress doesn't
trust him, they know he's nuts, our allies don't trust him,
don't like him, most Americans disapprove. Who likes him
and who does he like? KJU and Putin!

>
> > Calling the whole continent of Africa a shithole was
>
> Whether or not you agree with him calling some African countries
> "shithole's" is irrelevant. Everyone is entitled to their opinions on
> such things, and so is President Trump.

It's not acceptable for a president to be hurling those terms,
especially for no reason. What the hell do they teach in that
"Christian" church of yours?

I happen to agree with him that
> some African countries ARE "shitholes," per his description, therefore,
> I see his representation as being accurate - not aweful.
>
> > an awful way to speak of other countries. He's insulted too many people
> > as well
> So, people can get happy in the same pants they get insulted in ... He
> isn't serving as our President so he can please everyone with every word
> he utters.
>
> --
> Maggie

Trump, a great example of how to win friends and influence people.
Oh, and on the subject of friends, some years ago Trump said that
your friends are out to take you money, you wife, etc. That
explains a lot.

[trader_4]

Are you seriously asking that question? Did Trump say
*anything* that wasn't true? You can't possibly be that
ignorant or stupid.

[Bob F]

-300

[Shadow]

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 14:44:40 -0500, Muggles
<cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:

>On 7/31/2018 12:37 PM, Shadow wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:56:34 -0500, Muggles
>> <cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:
>>

>>> Heaven forbid an imperfect human WHITE MALE win the office

>>> of US President.
>
>
>> +10 on "imperfect".
>> Sht, I'd go with "downright faulty in every way" from the
>> imaginary bone spurs in his heels through his tendency to rape minors
>> and onto to his pompous orange wig.
>
>Gee ... try looking in a mirror every once in a while if you are
>feeling a bit judgey. You can say all sorts of things without any of
>them being true. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, though.
>
>> As to color, all of the worst presidents the US has ever had
>> were white. But I don't think it's relevant, as the majority of the
>> more patriotic and competent ones were white too.
>> Why did you mention color ? It's irrelevant.
>> []'s
>
>There's nothing wrong with being a white male, and nothing wrong with
>mentioning our president is a white male, either. Do you have something
>against white males?

I didn't bring the subject up. You did. Read your post.

[Shadow]

It was a con job. Advertizing ? No, not that bad. Drug
peddling maybe ?

[Shadow]

I'm neither Chinese nor American (or Russian), so I have no
influence at all on America's bankruptcy. Can't understand why you
thought I did.

[Shadow]

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 12:54:43 -0700 (PDT), angelica...@yahoo.com
wrote:

No, it was convincing people to spend more on goods than they
are worth by spotlighting the good qualities and hiding the rotten
ones. Typical con-job. It's frowned on in a Christian society.

[Muggles]

Everyone is a marketer ... it's the brand that always differs.

--
Maggie

[Bob F]

On 7/31/2018 9:30 AM, Muggles wrote:
> On 7/31/2018 11:23 AM, Bod wrote:

>> On 31/07/2018 17:21, Bod wrote:
>>> On 31/07/2018 17:18, Muggles wrote:
>>>> On 7/31/2018 11:00 AM, Bod wrote:
>>>>> On 31/07/2018 15:56, Muggles wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/31/2018 9:44 AM, Bod wrote:

>>>>>>> On 31/07/2018 15:37, Muggles wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2018 9:30 AM, trader_4 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 10:17:30 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2018 8:49 AM, Shadow wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 19:50:02 -0500, Muggles
>>>>>>>>>>> <cou...@wn2-sweetheart.day> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/30/2018 12:31 AM, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2018 04:54, Muggles wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still support him, and it looks like even many former
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> democrats are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walking away from the left.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Suppoting a known pathelogical liar says a lot about you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How many times have you told a lie on purpose?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>       Under oath, to a judge, ????
>>>>>>>>>>>       Never ....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you prove that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nice try.  It's difficult to impossible to prove a negative.  In
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>>> of Trump, we have lie after lie after lie, all documented and
>>>>>>>>> proven.
>>>>>>>>> Unlike any other president in US history.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you prove Trump is a pathological liar?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

>>>>>>> When President Trump sat down with the New York Times for an
>>>>>>> interview
>>>>>>> recently, he said something untrue about every 75 seconds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That’s not just the usual political boasting and grandstanding. Those
>>>>>>> were actual, verifiable claims which professional fact checkers
>>>>>>> investigated and found to be untrue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://time.com/5084420/donald-trump-lies-claims-fact-checks/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> gee ...  He's got to be the first human being on the face of the earth
>>>>>> to engage in hyperbole, opinion, disagreement on some issue, or make a
>>>>>> mistake in front of others.   He should be tarred and feathered for
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> being a smooth talking, perfect speech-giving, old-school career

>>>>>> politician.  Heaven forbid an imperfect human white male win the
>>>>>> office
>>>>>> of US President.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

>>>>> Like I said in my previous post, you just argue for the sake of it and
>>>>> nothing will shift you from your obstinate tunnel vision stance.
>>>>
>>>> Geee ... do you think anything will shift you from your obstinate tunnel

>>>> vision stance?  I get that you don't like my supporting President Trump,

>>>> but you should understand that I don't care what you like.
>>>>

>>>  > I'm talking about when I show you indisputable facts, like Trump's
>>> constant lying.
>>>
>>
>
>

>> Added to that, in a post a few posts ago, I gave you the benefit of
>> doubt about Trump's 81 achievements, so I try to be fair.
>
> If you were trying to be fair, you wouldn't be making some of the nasty
> off the cuff remarks you've been making when responding to me. Make up
> your mind. Either you're fair, or you're just out to slam me because I
> support Trump.
>

He slams you because you are blind to reality, or have no decent moral
values.

[Bob F]

Oh! That's exactly what she does here for trump.

[Uncle Monster]

Fact: Progressive Liberal Leftist Commiecrat Moonbat Freaks believe they're smarter and better informed than everyone else. It is amusing to watch them call anyone they disagree with, "Ignorant and stupid." It's so funny that they never put THEIR money where their mouth is. Oh yea, they want to use other people's money. The freaks can readily offer up criticism but can never propose a solution. Especially if they will have to pay for it with THEIR money. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Observant Monster

[Uncle Monster]

So you should be paid attention to for what reason? Are you one of The Three Wise Men? o_O

[8~{} Uncle Curious Monster

[Bod]

> In a civilised democracy *anyone*(within reason) has the right to an
opinion.

--
Bod

[Uncle Monster]

Not everyone can be perfect like you Bobby. You should put yourself up on a pedestal for all of us to admire and strive to be like. What's being a perfect moron like? You demonstrate it quite often but to hear you describe the experience may help others understand you better. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Curious Monster

[Uncle Monster]

I also have an anus. Should you be paying attention to its musings? It also has an opinion that is often a pain in the arse. ^_^

In case you weren't paying attention, the United States is NOT a "Democracy". Democracies always fail. Whether or not we Americans are civilized is always something you arrogant Europeans often bring into question. Personally, I'm a wild and crazy guy who eats small children. They must be carefully washed before preparation and consumption. The toes are the crunchy part. 8-)

[8~{} Uncle Hungry Monster

[Bod]

>>>
>> > In a civilised democracy *anyone*(within reason) has the right to an
>> opinion.
>> --
>> Bod
>
> I also have an anus. Should you be paying attention to its musings? It also has an opinion that is often a pain in the arse. ^_^
>
> In case you weren't paying attention, the United States is NOT a "Democracy". Democracies always fail. Whether or not we Americans are civilized is always something you arrogant Europeans often bring into question. Personally, I'm a wild and crazy guy who eats small children. They must be carefully washed before preparation and consumption. The toes are the crunchy part. 8-)
>
> [8~{} Uncle Hungry Monster
>

> Hmm! Your ignorance is astounding.

Eugene Volokh of the UCLA School of Law notes that the United States
exemplifies the varied nature of a democratic republic—a country where
some decisions (often local) are made by direct democratic processes,
while others (often federal) are made by democratically elected
representatives.


--
Bod

[Bod]

To help you, here is a dictionary definition of a democracy:

democracy Play de·moc·ra·cy
Use democracy in a sentence

The government of the United States is a form of democracy.

noun
The definition of a democracy is a form of government in which the
people rule, either directly or through elected representatives.
An example of democracy is the type of government in the United States.

http://www.yourdictionary.com/democracy

--
Bod

[Bod]

>You and Muggles typify Trump supporters. Muggles says that she readily
accepts that Trump is ignorant and she said that she even wished their
were more ignorant people like him in government.
Words fail me when I hear ridiculous statements like that.



--
Bod

[Bod]

To be fair; this was Muggles statement on Trump's ignorance and I quote:

"If that is "ignorance", the US needs more leaders who not only believe
in changing the old status quo, but actually making those changes
happen, too".

--
Bod

[trader_4]

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 2:00:53 PM UTC-4, Shadow wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:57:54 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
> <uncl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Did he say anything that wasn't true?
>
> Yes, everything from "I never raped minors", "I don't screw my
> daughter" to "I didn't fix the elections with Putin" through "I have
> spurs on my feet, so I can't serve my country". Over a thousand lies
> that DID damage America's reputation in under ONE YEAR.
> You have become a laughing stock of the world.
> BTW, China's GNP overtakes the US's next year, a year earlier
> than predicted. Exempting rich people from paying taxes has never made
> a country richer. It tends to bankrupt it.
> []'s

The top 1% of incomes pay 40% of all income tax, the top 5% pay 60%.
How does that equate to exempting rich people from paying
taxes?

[trader_4]

Once again, you're correct. Democracy is used to cover all
forms of govt where people get to vote in free elections, pick their govt representatives, etc.

[Bod]

> It's similar in the UK.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/19/tax-burden-wealthy-has-trebled-since-1970s-telegraph-analysis/
--
Bod