Lower voltage diode the other side of a step up transformer?

[Commander Kinsey]

Can I put a diode BEFORE a step up transformer so I can use a lower voltage diode for half wave rectification?

[Peeler]

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"James Wilkinson", "Steven Wanker","Bruce Farquar", "Fred Johnson, etc.),
the pathological resident idiot and attention whore of all the uk ngs,
blathered again:

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[Brian Gaff]

No.
At least if you are really meaning what you said here.
I'm assuming this is some kind of mains to low voltage psu.
Surely, putting the rectifier diodes is going to be on the secondary in any
case. Depending on what you want, it can be done several ways. If the
transformer has two ends to the secondary, ie no centre tap, then you need a
bridge rectifier to allow both halves of the ac waveform to be rectified.
If it has a centre tap then you have one rectifier from the ends, ie one
for each and the centre tap as 0V
Or you could use two bridges, isolating the centre tap and get two
supplies.
Lastly, the least efficient way is one half wave rectifier across the
secondary, but then you are only really using one of the cycles of the mains
in effect.
Brian

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[Peeler]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 14:49:02 -0000, Brainless & Daft, the TV-watching and
pity-baiting senile "blind" mole, blathered again:

> No.

Yes, you ARE a disgusting pity-baiting troll-feeding senile PIG, Brainless &
Daft!

[Fredxx]

On 26/02/2023 09:45, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> Can I put a diode BEFORE a step up transformer so I can use a lower
> voltage diode for half wave rectification?

No.

What IQ did you say you had? I think whoever told you was lying.

You need to expand on what you're trying to achieve.

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 09:45:26 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
<C...@nospam.com> wrote:

>Can I put a diode BEFORE a step up transformer so I can use a lower voltage diode for half wave rectification?

Ah. Humor. Thanks for the laugh.

[The Natural Philosopher]

LOL!


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[Clare Snyder]

They just forgot the negative sign - - - Somewhere about -78 aught
to be pretty close - - -

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 23:13:23 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 26/02/2023 16:13, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 09:45:26 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
>> <C...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can I put a diode BEFORE a step up transformer so I can use a lower voltage diode for half wave rectification?
>>
>> Ah. Humor. Thanks for the laugh.
>>
>LOL!

It was funny in more than one sense.

As long as one is adding diodes, may as well build a doubler on the
output side. Two topologies suggest themselves.

A center-tapped secondary could be useful too. All sorts of
possibilities.

I think I just invented the non-integer-ratio voltage multiplier.

[Max Demian]

On 26/02/2023 09:45, Commander Kinsey wrote:

> Can I put a diode BEFORE a step up transformer so I can use a lower
> voltage diode for half wave rectification?

No, the transformer will turn it back into AC. It responds to /changes/
of current and a half wave will go up and then down resulting in +ve and
-ve from the secondary.

--
Max Demian

[Peeler]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 11:36:55 +0000, Max Dumbian, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

> No, the transformer will turn it back into AC. It responds to /changes/
> of current and a half wave will go up and then down resulting in +ve and
> -ve from the secondary.

Of course, senile Max Dumb will ALWAYS respond to the sociopathic retard's
most retarded "questions". <BG>

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[Fredxx]

Yer-but, the issue is over the transformer being subject to a DC voltage
which in the case of the OP will be:
230V x sqrt(2) x pi / 2
being developed across the transformer. That will produce a net DC
current in the transformer and make some heat for which the transformer
is not designed.

But you're right the secondary, before its imminent failure, will
produce an AC waveform though likely to be a very distorted sine wave.

[Smolley]

At half the frequency..

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 27/02/2023 11:36, Max Demian wrote:

The transformer will saturate and burn out

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[Fredxx]

The waveform across the transformer is still 50Hz.

I presume the confusion is over full vs half-wave rectification
regarding ripple frequency, 50 vs 100Hz (60 vs 120Hz)

[Fredxx]

On 27/02/2023 15:38, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 27/02/2023 11:36, Max Demian wrote:
>> On 26/02/2023 09:45, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>
>>> Can I put a diode BEFORE a step up transformer so I can use a lower
>>> voltage diode for half wave rectification?
>>
>> No, the transformer will turn it back into AC. It responds to
>> /changes/ of current and a half wave will go up and then down
>> resulting in +ve and -ve from the secondary.
>>
> The transformer will saturate and burn out

It's not a guarantee.

Small transformers are very lossy and have a high resistance and may
survive the impose DC voltage. Larger transformer with lower winding
resistance may not. We also don't know the spec of the transformer the
OP had in mind and the applied voltage.

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 27/02/2023 15:29, Smolley wrote:

No, at the same frequency

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[Clare Snyder]

I find it REALLY hard to believe anyone can be as clueless as Kinsey
and still manage to breathe on his own - - - Not just this thread -
but EVERY BLINKIN' ONE!!!!

[Clare Snyder]

If he used a transformer with 240 volt primary on a 120 volt supply
the transformer MIGHT survive - particularly if it was a 50hz
transformer on 60Hz but the DC bias would be a REAL killer. Now, if he
put a HUGE capacitor (I think the Limeys still call then condensors)
in series with the primary to block the DC the transformer would
survive - that's how audio output transformers on tube radios survived
having the DC plate voltage on the output - but he'd still be getting
a crappy AC output from the secondary..

I'm still ALMOST convinced Kinsey is a "clever troll" because nobody
in real life could be that consistently stupid

[trader_4]

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 4:45:33 AM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> Can I put a diode BEFORE a step up transformer so I can use a lower voltage diode for half wave rectification?

No, but you can put it at the power company generator.

[Peeler]

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 05:49:23 -0800 (PST), tardo_4, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered again:

> No, but you can put it at the power company generator.

He certainly can bait all you senile assholes with the dumbest baits he can
think up. LOL

[farter]

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 17:20:25 +1100, Clare Snyder <cl...@snyder.on.ca>
wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 17:11:24 +0000, Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 27/02/2023 15:38, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 27/02/2023 11:36, Max Demian wrote:
>>>> On 26/02/2023 09:45, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can I put a diode BEFORE a step up transformer so I can use a lower
>>>>> voltage diode for half wave rectification?
>>>>
>>>> No, the transformer will turn it back into AC. It responds to
>>>> /changes/ of current and a half wave will go up and then down
>>>> resulting in +ve and -ve from the secondary.
>>>>
>>> The transformer will saturate and burn out
>>
>> It's not a guarantee.
>>
>> Small transformers are very lossy and have a high resistance and may
>> survive the impose DC voltage. Larger transformer with lower winding
>> resistance may not. We also don't know the spec of the transformer the
>> OP had in mind and the applied voltage.
>>
> If he used a transformer with 240 volt primary on a 120 volt supply
> the transformer MIGHT survive - particularly if it was a 50hz
> transformer on 60Hz but the DC bias would be a REAL killer. Now, if he
> put a HUGE capacitor (I think the Limeys still call then condensors)

Mostly they don't anymore.

> in series with the primary to block the DC the transformer would
> survive - that's how audio output transformers on tube radios survived
> having the DC plate voltage on the output - but he'd still be getting
> a crappy AC output from the secondary..

> I'm still ALMOST convinced Kinsey is a "clever troll" because nobody
> in real life could be that consistently stupid

Fraid so, he is surprisingly clueless about cars and electronics

[Peeler]

On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 13:53:43 +1100, farter, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

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[Commander Kinsey]

I thought current always flowed the same way in primary and secondary.... You know, phases and all that.

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 01:23:17 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"

<C...@nospam.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 16:13:19 -0000, John Larkin <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 09:45:26 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
>> <C...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can I put a diode BEFORE a step up transformer so I can use a lower voltage diode for half wave rectification?
>>
>> Ah. Humor. Thanks for the laugh.
>
>I thought current always flowed the same way in primary and secondary.... You know, phases and all that.

Assume a loaded bifilar transformer, both dots up, and draw the
winding currents.

The reason that loading a transformer doesn't make it saturate is
because the primary excitation flux and the flux from the secondary
load current cancel. Loading a transformer reduces the core flux.

[Peeler]

On Fri, 03 Mar 2023 19:04:07 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain
dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:

>>I thought current always flowed the same way in primary and secondary.... You know, phases and all that.
>
> Assume a loaded bifilar transformer, both dots up, and draw the
> winding currents.
>
> The reason that loading a transformer doesn't make it saturate is
> because the primary excitation flux and the flux from the secondary
> load current cancel. Loading a transformer reduces the core flux.

The reason why the trolling attention whore will keep asking ever more
retarded "questions" is because you troll-feeding senile assholes will keep
answering them.

[Max Demian]

You clearly shouldn't have anything to do with transformers and diodes.

--
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[The Natural Philosopher]

+1

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always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

Margaret Thatcher

[Commander Kinsey]

I was actually talking about a stepup transformer. 120V to 6000V. Yes it's American, I got it cheap. To avoid finding a 6000V diode, I thought I could use a 120V diode. From all the answers it appears I was wrong to assume because the current is going one way through the primary it must be going the same way through the secondary. Actually the DC component is lost and the AC is passed, so I just get squint AC.


On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 14:49:02 -0000, Brian Gaff <brian...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No.
> At least if you are really meaning what you said here.
> I'm assuming this is some kind of mains to low voltage psu.
> Surely, putting the rectifier diodes is going to be on the secondary in any
> case. Depending on what you want, it can be done several ways. If the
> transformer has two ends to the secondary, ie no centre tap, then you need a
> bridge rectifier to allow both halves of the ac waveform to be rectified.
> If it has a centre tap then you have one rectifier from the ends, ie one
> for each and the centre tap as 0V
> Or you could use two bridges, isolating the centre tap and get two
> supplies.
> Lastly, the least efficient way is one half wave rectifier across the
> secondary, but then you are only really using one of the cycles of the mains
> in effect.
> Brian

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 4 Mar 2023 08:59:24 +0100, Peeler <trol...@valid.invalid>
wrote:

The prime function of SED is to discuss electronics design, and
another is to help people who have questions or don't understand
everything or who want to play with ideas.

If you stop being mindlessly nasty and think about electronics, and
try to be helpful, you'll be better off. But you are trapped in
meanness and can't break out.

Sloman is similarly trapped. So says absurd things about the topic,
just to be contradictory.

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 4 Mar 2023 12:16:59 +0000, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

Or should learn more. Spice is a good tool for things like this. As
Mike E says, the main function of LT Spice is to train your instincts.

[Max Demian]

On 04/03/2023 16:05, Commander Kinsey wrote:

> I was actually talking about a stepup transformer.  120V to 6000V.  Yes
> it's American, I got it cheap.  To avoid finding a 6000V diode, I
> thought I could use a 120V diode.  From all the answers it appears I was
> wrong to assume because the current is going one way through the primary
> it must be going the same way through the secondary.  Actually the DC
> component is lost and the AC is passed, so I just get squint AC.

The penny drops.

--
Max Demian

[Peeler]

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 08:26:50 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain

dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:

> The prime function of SED is to discuss electronics design, and
> another is to help people who have questions or don't understand
> everything or who want to play with ideas.
>
> If you stop being mindlessly nasty and think about electronics, and
> try to be helpful, you'll be better off. But you are trapped in
> meanness and can't break out.
>
> Sloman is similarly trapped. So says absurd things about the topic,
> just to be contradictory.

Just stop feeding the troll (additionally you might also stop being a
typical senile smartass) and everything will be all right!

[Peeler]

On Sat, 4 Mar 2023 12:16:59 +0000, Max Dumbian, the REAL dumb, notorious,

troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

> You clearly shouldn't have anything to do with transformers and diodes.

Why not? He IS clinically insane (on top of being a troll), you demented
troll-feeding senile asshole!

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 16:05:37 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
<C...@nospam.com> wrote:

>I was actually talking about a stepup transformer. 120V to 6000V. Yes it's American, I got it cheap. To avoid finding a 6000V diode, I thought I could use a 120V diode. From all the answers it appears I was wrong to assume because the current is going one way through the primary it must be going the same way through the secondary. Actually the DC component is lost and the AC is passed, so I just get squint AC.

Trying to make a high voltage DC supply? You can get 1KV 1 amp diodes
for a few cents each. Those can be used in series.

When I was a kid, I used old neon sign transformers and 1B3 rectifier
tubes to make high voltage DC supplies. I couldn't afford a Variac so
adjusted the filament voltage to regulate the output voltage. I used a
D-cell battery and a rheostat, and somehow I'm still alive.

[John Larkin]

Digikey has a 16 KV diode for 33 cents.

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 4 Mar 2023 18:09:09 +0100, Peeler <trol...@valid.invalid>
wrote:

I'm all right. You are clearly damaged.

Use your intelligence and repair yourself.

[Peeler]

On Sat, 4 Mar 2023 16:51:19 +0000, Max Dumbian, the REAL dumb, notorious,

troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

> The penny drops.

Not with you though: You obviously you don't yet know that the sociopathic
gay wanker once posted a picture online of a "degree" he has in electronics!
After all, his IQ is 140! LMAO

[Peeler]

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 09:42:09 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain

dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:

> Trying to make a high voltage DC supply?

Nope, troll-feeding senile idiot: He ONLY tries to get as much attention as
possible from all the assorted troll-feeding senile assholes in these
groups!

[Peeler]

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 09:54:53 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain
dead, troll-loving senile asshole, blathered:

>>Just stop feeding the troll (additionally you might also stop being a
>>typical senile smartass) and everything will be all right!
>
> I'm all right. You are clearly damaged.
>
> Use your intelligence and repair yourself.

IOW, you WON'T stop feeding the troll and you will CONTINUE being a typical
senile smartass! But no suprise! <BG>

[Rod Speed]

That is long gone.

> and repair yourself.

Its always been irrepairable.

[John Larkin]

Yeah, most people, after they get into a nasty loop, can never break
out.

Hunching over a screen and mousing all day is bad for the body and
soul. I make myself get some exercize every day (just got soaked and
froze) and that helps.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/exercise-is-an-all-natural-treatment-to-fight-depression

[Peeler]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 05:55:29 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

--

Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 89-year-old senile Australian
cretin's pathological trolling:
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/rod-speed-faq.2973853/

[Peeler]

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 11:44:41 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain

dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:

> Yeah, most people, after they get into a nasty loop, can never break
> out.

Found yet another internationally recognized demented troll to feed,
troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE? Why am I not suprised! LOL

> Hunching over a screen and mousing all day is bad for the body and
> soul. I make myself get some exercize every day (just got soaked and
> froze) and that helps.
>
> https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/exercise-is-an-all-natural-treatment-to-fight-depression

STILL being a typical senile smartass? LMAO Just what is it with all you
useless senile morons?

[Bob F]

You could exercise restraint, and stop feeding the troll.

[John Larkin]

It's only a newsgroup.

Do you design electronics?

[Rod Speed]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 06:44:41 +1100, John Larkin

Not just a nasty loop. any loop for most people.

> Hunching over a screen and mousing all day is bad for the body and
> soul.

Not convinced.

> I make myself get some exercize every day (just got soaked and
> froze) and that helps.

> https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/exercise-is-an-all-natural-treatment-to-fight-depression

I don't get depression.

[Bob F]

On occasion.

[Peeler]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 08:32:46 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

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"Surely you can find an Australian group to pollute rather than posting
your unwanted guff here."
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[Max Demian]

Yes, life really is pointless.

--
Max Demian

[The Natural Philosopher]

Not totally. IIRC correctly the current in the secondary is 'backwards';
on terms of its ability to generate back EMF.

Furthermore the impedance of the transformer to rectified AC with a DC
component will now be so low that the primary will burn out.


--
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urge to rule it.”
– H. L. Mencken

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 04/03/2023 17:42, John Larkin wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 16:05:37 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
> <C...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> I was actually talking about a stepup transformer. 120V to 6000V. Yes it's American, I got it cheap. To avoid finding a 6000V diode, I thought I could use a 120V diode. From all the answers it appears I was wrong to assume because the current is going one way through the primary it must be going the same way through the secondary. Actually the DC component is lost and the AC is passed, so I just get squint AC.
>
> Trying to make a high voltage DC supply? You can get 1KV 1 amp diodes
> for a few cents each. Those can be used in series.
>

You should generally be careful doing that. If one is leaky it will put
a far higher voltage across the others. In general you need to select
for reverse leakage current OR put high value resistsiors across them to
guarantee a predictable 'leakiness'


--
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to
rule.
– H. L. Mencken, American journalist, 1880-1956

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 04/03/2023 19:44, John Larkin wrote:
> Hunching over a screen and mousing all day is bad for the body and
> soul.

Tell me about it. Years of doing it as a job have left me with damaged
nerves and a compressed spine.
The surgeon is taking a dremel to the bones sometime this year to
relieve the pressure

[The Natural Philosopher]

"That applies to you" he said. "Things matter to you. You asked me about
my controlled folly and I told you that everything I do in regard to
myself and my fellow men is folly, because nothing matters."

"My point is, don Juan, that if nothing matters to you, how can you go
on living?"

He laughed and after a moment's pause, in which he seemed to deliberate
whether or not to answer, he got up and went to the back of his house. I
followed him.

"Wait, wait, don Juan." I said. "I really want to know; you must explain
to me what you mean."

"Perhaps it's not possible to explain," he said. "Certain things in your
life matter to you because they're important; your acts are certainly
important to you, but for me, not a single thing is important any
longer, neither my acts nor the acts of any of my fellow men. I go on
living, though, because I have my will. Because I have tempered my will
throughout my life until it's neat and wholesome and now it doesn't
matter to me that nothing matters. My will controls the folly of my life."

Carlos Castenada - "The teachings of Don Juan".

--
"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow witted
man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest
thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly
persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid
before him."

- Leo Tolstoy

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 12:25:13 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 04/03/2023 17:42, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 16:05:37 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
>> <C...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was actually talking about a stepup transformer. 120V to 6000V. Yes it's American, I got it cheap. To avoid finding a 6000V diode, I thought I could use a 120V diode. From all the answers it appears I was wrong to assume because the current is going one way through the primary it must be going the same way through the secondary. Actually the DC component is lost and the AC is passed, so I just get squint AC.
>>
>> Trying to make a high voltage DC supply? You can get 1KV 1 amp diodes
>> for a few cents each. Those can be used in series.
>>
>You should generally be careful doing that. If one is leaky it will put
>a far higher voltage across the others. In general you need to select
>for reverse leakage current OR put high value resistsiors across them to
>guarantee a predictable 'leakiness'

Modern diodes are almost all controlled-avalanche. They zener without
a negative-resistance snap effect, so are safe to run in series; they
self-adjust. Silicon HV diodes are a stack of lower-voltage junctions.

You can Spice a series string of various-voltage zeners and see what
happens.

Two items of folk wisdom "don't put diodes in series" and "don't put
diodes in parallel" are mostly wrong.

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 08:32:46 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Even so, fresh air and sunshine and exercize will make most anyone
more energetic and feel better and likely improve ability to design.

I've got my BMI from almost 27 to below 24 and it makes a real
difference.

What's your BMI?

[Rod Speed]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 22:15:03 +1100, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

Your certainly is and isnt anything even remotely resembling a life either.

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 12:27:03 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 04/03/2023 19:44, John Larkin wrote:
>> Hunching over a screen and mousing all day is bad for the body and
>> soul.
>
>Tell me about it. Years of doing it as a job have left me with damaged
>nerves and a compressed spine.
>The surgeon is taking a dremel to the bones sometime this year to
>relieve the pressure

I got a bad case of De Quervain's Tenosynovitis, which is painful
whether or not you can pronounce it. Human bodies are still
evolutionary kluges with lots of bugs. Joints and tendons are a real
hack.

A gigantic steroid shot seems to have fixed it. Medicine evolves
faster than bodies do.

[John Larkin]

Women alone make life good. Not to mention food, skiing, and
electronics.

[Peeler]

On Mon, 06 Mar 2023 04:25:27 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

--

Bod addressing senile Rodent Speed:
"Rod, you have a sick twisted mind. I suggest you stop your mindless
and totally irresponsible talk. Your mouth could get you into a lot of
trouble."
MID: <gfbb94...@mid.individual.net>

[Peeler]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 09:38:42 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain
dead, troll-loving senile asshole, blathered:

> Women alone make life good. Not to mention food, skiing, and
> electronics.

Found yet another PROVEN sociopathic troll to feed, you idiotic
troll-feeding senile SHITHEAD?

[Peeler]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 09:24:39 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain
dead, troll-loving senile asshole, blathered:

>>I don't get depression.
>
> Even so, fresh air and sunshine and exercize will make most anyone
> more energetic and feel better and likely improve ability to design.
>
> I've got my BMI from almost 27 to below 24 and it makes a real
> difference.
>
> What's your BMI?

What's this with you and your abnormal feeding of the two dumbest trolls
around, you abnormal troll-feeding senile cretin? LOL

[Peeler]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 09:32:08 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain
dead, troll-loving senile asshole, blathered:

> I got a bad case of De Quervain's Tenosynovitis, which is painful
> whether or not you can pronounce it. Human bodies are still
> evolutionary kluges with lots of bugs. Joints and tendons are a real
> hack.
>
> A gigantic steroid shot seems to have fixed it. Medicine evolves
> faster than bodies do.

Oh, fuck! More useless senile blather in these three newsgroups!

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:29:48 +0100, Peeler <trol...@valid.invalid>
wrote:

Fatso!

[Peeler]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 11:02:30 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain

dead, troll-loving senile asshole, blathered:

>>> Even so, fresh air and sunshine and exercize will make most anyone
>>> more energetic and feel better and likely improve ability to design.
>>>
>>> I've got my BMI from almost 27 to below 24 and it makes a real
>>> difference.
>>>
>>> What's your BMI?
>>
>>What's this with you and your abnormal feeding of the two dumbest trolls
>>around, you abnormal troll-feeding senile cretin? LOL
>
> Fatso!

ANSWER the question, senile blabbermouth: What's this with you and your
abnormal feeding of the two dumbest PROVEN sociopathic trolls in these
groups, you abnormal troll-feeding senile cretin?

[Rod Speed]

On Mon, 06 Mar 2023 04:24:39 +1100, John Larkin

Don't find that myself.

> I've got my BMI from almost 27 to below 24 and it makes a real
> difference.

The only difference it makes for me is that its easier to put
the massive great wool and nylon mix boot shoes on in winter.

> What's your BMI?

25

[rbowman]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 08:59:13 -0800, John Larkin wrote:


> Two items of folk wisdom "don't put diodes in series" and "don't put
> diodes in parallel" are mostly wrong.

The first company I worked for made dielectric preheaters for the plastics
industry. The were basically a 7.5 kW oscillator with the material placed
in the RF cavity. There rolled their own high voltage rectifiers and
capacitors. I forget how many diodes were in series with the whole
assembly potted into a brick with two lugs.

They operated in the FM band but the frequency change as the material
heated was minimal unlike the RF heat sealers that were known for their
whoosh sounding interference.

On the factory floor both were rumored to make you sterile or incredibly
fertile, take your pick. In the days before microwave ovens were common
the the workers also figured out the preheaters were handy for warming up
you sandwich.

The same company did make several industrial sized microwave ovens for
restaurants but completely missed the potential of the consumer market.

[Rod Speed]

On Mon, 06 Mar 2023 04:38:42 +1100, John Larkin

<jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 06 Mar 2023 04:25:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 22:15:03 +1100, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/03/2023 21:32, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 06:44:41 +1100, John Larkin
>>>> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Hunching over a screen and mousing all day is bad for the body and
>>>>> soul.
>>>> Not convinced.
>>>>
>>>>> I make myself get some exercize every day (just got soaked and
>>>>> froze) and that helps.
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/exercise-is-an-all-natural-treatment-to-fight-depression
>>>> I don't get depression.
>>>
>>> Yes, life really is pointless.
>>
>> Your certainly is and isnt anything even remotely resembling a life
>> either.
>
> Women alone make life good.

Virtually all of my mates have ditched theirs with one on the verge of
doing that.

[Peeler]

On 5 Mar 2023 19:40:25 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> The first company I worked for

Oh, fuck! It starts again...

<FLUSH rest of the usual verbose senile crap unread again>

--
More of the senile gossip's absolutely idiotic senile blather:
"I stopped for breakfast at a diner in Virginia when the state didn't do
DST. I remarked on the time difference and the crusty old waitress said
'We keep God's time in Virginia.'

I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while."

MID: <t0tjfa$6r5$1...@dont-email.me>

[Peeler]

On Mon, 06 Mar 2023 06:41:42 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

--

Marland answering senile Rodent's statement, "I don't leak":
"That’s because so much piss and shite emanates from your gob that there is
nothing left to exit normally, your arsehole has clammed shut through disuse
and the end of prick is only clear because you are such a Wanker."
Message-ID: <gm2h57...@mid.individual.net>

[Peeler]

On Mon, 06 Mar 2023 06:39:02 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

--

Marland revealing the senile sociopath's pathology:
"You have mentioned Alexa in a couple of threads recently, it is not a real
woman you know even if it is the only thing with a female name that stays
around while you talk to it.
Poor sad git who has to resort to Usenet and electronic devices for any
interaction as all real people run a mile to get away from you boring them
to death."
MID: <gfkt3m...@mid.individual.net>

[Fredxx]

On 05/03/2023 12:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 04/03/2023 17:42, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 16:05:37 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
>> <C...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was actually talking about a stepup transformer.  120V to 6000V.
>>> Yes it's American, I got it cheap.  To avoid finding a 6000V diode, I
>>> thought I could use a 120V diode.  From all the answers it appears I
>>> was wrong to assume because the current is going one way through the
>>> primary it must be going the same way through the secondary.
>>> Actually the DC component is lost and the AC is passed, so I just get
>>> squint AC.
>>
>> Trying to make a high voltage DC supply? You can get 1KV 1 amp diodes
>> for a few cents each. Those can be used in series.
>>
> You should generally be careful doing that. If one is leaky it will put
> a far higher voltage across the others. In general you need to select
> for reverse leakage current OR put high value resistsiors across them to
> guarantee a predictable 'leakiness'

That isn't generally an issue. It is inherent they will conduct a small
current, but that will naturally equalise as they get close to their
breakdown voltage.

[Fredxx]

On 05/03/2023 12:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 04/03/2023 16:51, Max Demian wrote:
>> On 04/03/2023 16:05, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>
>>> I was actually talking about a stepup transformer.  120V to 6000V.
>>> Yes it's American, I got it cheap.  To avoid finding a 6000V diode, I
>>> thought I could use a 120V diode.  From all the answers it appears I
>>> was wrong to assume because the current is going one way through the
>>> primary it must be going the same way through the secondary.
>>> Actually the DC component is lost and the AC is passed, so I just get
>>> squint AC.
>>
>> The penny drops.
>>
> Not totally. IIRC correctly the current in the secondary is 'backwards';
> on terms of its ability to generate back EMF.
>
> Furthermore the impedance of the transformer to rectified AC with a DC
> component will now be so low that the primary will burn out.

In life and reality things are not so black and white. Those prophesies
are reserved most appropriately for colour blind art students.

If you were able to use a simulation tool like LT Spice, you would
understand that the problem isn't nearly as severe as you might think.
The back emf from the transformer would continue the sinusoidal waveform
well beyond the crossing point.

Mr Kingsey, if so inclined and capable, could measure the resistance of
his transformer and measure the average DC current into his circuit to
confirm.

I would expect for a standard transformer, for the average (DC) current
to be 1/10 of the resistance alone. BICBW

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 06 Mar 2023 06:41:42 +1100, "Rod Speed"

<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Mar 2023 04:38:42 +1100, John Larkin
><jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 06 Mar 2023 04:25:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 22:15:03 +1100, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 04/03/2023 21:32, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 06:44:41 +1100, John Larkin
>>>>> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Hunching over a screen and mousing all day is bad for the body and
>>>>>> soul.
>>>>> Not convinced.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I make myself get some exercize every day (just got soaked and
>>>>>> froze) and that helps.
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/exercise-is-an-all-natural-treatment-to-fight-depression
>>>>> I don't get depression.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, life really is pointless.
>>>
>>> Your certainly is and isnt anything even remotely resembling a life
>>> either.
>>
>> Women alone make life good.
>
>Virtually all of my mates have ditched theirs with one on the verge of
>doing that.
>

Are they going gay?

I really believe that, for most men, women have chemicals that make us
happy. Pheremones. One crackpot theory (mine) is that gay guys are so
promiscuous because their partners aren't satisfying. They prowl and
poke all night; Real Men mate and fall asleep.

>> Not to mention food, skiing, and
>> electronics.

The skiing sucks. Too much snow.

https://www.sugarbowl.com/webcams

[Rod Speed]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 02:20:53 +1100, John Larkin

Nope. One of them has gone thru 3 now and was clearly
trying for a new one but when she told him what he should
be doing about the grandkids living in his house with his
druggy son, walked out the door at her place without saying
anything and never went back again and now appears to have
given up on finding another. He has always said they are
'strange cattle'. The previous one got involved with someone
else who is the same age as her oldest son, the druggy, and
has now married him after his dad encouraged him to do that.

> I really believe that, for most men, women have chemicals that make us
> happy. Pheremones.

Clearly not the case with you lot given that most
of you have gone thru more than one woman.

> One crackpot theory (mine) is that gay guys are so
> promiscuous because their partners aren't satisfying. They prowl and
> poke all night; Real Men mate and fall asleep.

But hardly any stick with the same woman
for life even when the early ones don't die.

>>> Not to mention food, skiing, and
>>> electronics.

> The skiing sucks.

Yep, always has, always will do.

[Peeler]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 06:09:11 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 06:09:11 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Yikes. That explains a lot!

>The previous one got involved with someone
>else who is the same age as her oldest son, the druggy, and
>has now married him after his dad encouraged him to do that.
>
>> I really believe that, for most men, women have chemicals that make us
>> happy. Pheremones.
>
>Clearly not the case with you lot given that most
>of you have gone thru more than one woman.

All my women had pheremones.

>
>> One crackpot theory (mine) is that gay guys are so
>> promiscuous because their partners aren't satisfying. They prowl and
>> poke all night; Real Men mate and fall asleep.
>
>But hardly any stick with the same woman
>for life even when the early ones don't die.

Shop around a bit maybe. Some people, when single, latch onto the
first person they bump into. It's like electronic design, don't freeze
the architecture too soon.

But people change, so a good mate for life doesn't always happen.

The first AIDS cases around here had had an estimated 3000 sexual
partners. That's kinda extreme. Monogamy is, among other things,
preventive against STDs. That's probably the origin of many moral and
legal rules.

>
>>>> Not to mention food, skiing, and
>>>> electronics.
>
>> The skiing sucks.
>
>Yep, always has, always will do.

It's wonderful, about the only sport you can do all day and take your
mind far away from the routine. It's beautiful up in the mountains and
you can zoom around like a bird, or get a rum+coke at the bar.

[Rod Speed]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 07:27:50 +1100, John Larkin

Nope. And he's right about that.

>> The previous one got involved with someone
>> else who is the same age as her oldest son, the druggy, and
>> has now married him after his dad encouraged him to do that.
>>
>>> I really believe that, for most men, women have chemicals that make us
>>> happy. Pheremones.
>>
>> Clearly not the case with you lot given that most
>> of you have gone thru more than one woman.
>
> All my women had pheremones.

Sure, but clearly few of them made you happy enough to stick with them.

>>> One crackpot theory (mine) is that gay guys are so
>>> promiscuous because their partners aren't satisfying. They prowl and
>>> poke all night; Real Men mate and fall asleep.
>>
>> But hardly any stick with the same woman
>> for life even when the early ones don't die.

> Shop around a bit maybe.

Hell of a lot more than a bit. Virtually all
of you lot haven't had just the one for life.

> Some people, when single, latch onto the
> first person they bump into.

And most of you lot go thru a lot more than just the one you first marry.

> It's like electronic design, don't freeze
> the architecture too soon.

> But people change, so a good mate for life doesn't always happen.

Hardly ever happen with you lot in fact.

> The first AIDS cases around here had had an estimated 3000 sexual
> partners. That's kinda extreme. Monogamy is, among other things,
> preventive against STDs.

But hardly any of you lot are monogamous,
even after the first marraige.

> That's probably the origin of many moral and
> legal rules.

Dunno, its less clear that the ancients could work
that sort of thing out and certainly doesnt explain
the eskimos etc.

>>>>> Not to mention food, skiing, and
>>>>> electronics.
>>
>>> The skiing sucks.
>>
>> Yep, always has, always will do.
>
> It's wonderful, about the only sport you can do all day and take your
> mind far away from the routine. It's beautiful up in the mountains and
> you can zoom around like a bird, or get a rum+coke at the bar.

And get well and truly broken. No thanks.

[Peeler]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 08:13:28 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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Tim+ about trolling Rodent Speed:
He is by far the most persistent troll who seems to be able to get under the
skin of folk who really should know better. Since when did arguing with a
troll ever achieve anything (beyond giving the troll pleasure)?
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[Commander Kinsey]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 11:17:04 -0000, Jasen Betts <use...@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

> On 2023-02-26, Commander Kinsey <C...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> Can I put a diode BEFORE a step up transformer so I can use a lower voltage diode for half wave rectification?
>
> Garbage groups deleted.

Oooh! Your group is best is it? There's nothing wrong with the other groups, and they have people equally as knowledgeable as you.

So non-garbage groups re-added, pompous ass.

> Sure yuo can put a diode in series with the primary, but you'll need a larger
> (higher voltage) primary winding on the transformer so as to avoid repeated
> magnetic saturation of the core.
>
> And even that that's not going to make rectification on the secondary
> easier. All you end up doing is increasing resistive losses in
> the primary.

Thee question was would I get DC or AC out the other end?

[Sylvia Else]

On 05-Mar-23 5:11 am, Peeler wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 09:42:09 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain

> dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:
>
>

>> Trying to make a high voltage DC supply?
>

> Nope, troll-feeding senile idiot: He ONLY tries to get as much attention as
> possible from all the assorted troll-feeding senile assholes in these
> groups!

So why haven't you kill-filed any thread he starts? If you had, you
wouldn't be seeing his posts, or any response to them.

Sylvia.

[Rod Speed]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 15:55:59 +1100, Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid>
wrote:

> On 05-Mar-23 5:11 am, Peeler wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 09:42:09 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain
>> dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:
>>
>>> Trying to make a high voltage DC supply?
>> Nope, troll-feeding senile idiot: He ONLY tries to get as much
>> attention as
>> possible from all the assorted troll-feeding senile assholes in these
>> groups!
>
> So why haven't you kill-filed any thread he starts?

Because then that pathetic wretch would have nothing to post about.

> If you had, you wouldn't be seeing his posts, or any response to them.

But then that pathetic wretch would have nothing to post about.

That's all it ever does, respond to every single
post that pathetic wretch has decided to stalk.

[Peeler]

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 15:55:59 +1100, Sylvia Else, the troll-loving senile
idiot, blathered:

> So why haven't you kill-filed any thread he starts? If you had, you
> wouldn't be seeing his posts, or any response to them.
>
> Sylvia.

I never killfile anyone, moron!

[Peeler]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 16:57:13 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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[Fredxx]

If you don't know the answer, then I might suggest you give up now.

If you had a modicum of intelligence, you would be running LTSpice to
find out yourself. But we all know that's well beyond your capabilities.

[Smolley]

Wow, is that still about..?

[Fredxx]

It's very much alive and kicking. It doesn't take much to model a diode,
a resistor and an inductor to check how much power is dissipated.

It actually shows that pretty much the full AC voltage waveform is
developed across the transformer, the current going from zero to a a
value dependent on component choice (mainly determined by inductance) in
a near (offset) sinusoidal waveform.

Sadly, all the above is well beyond Kinsey's capabilities.

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 16:57:13 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 15:55:59 +1100, Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>> On 05-Mar-23 5:11 am, Peeler wrote:
>>> On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 09:42:09 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain
>>> dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:
>>>
>>>> Trying to make a high voltage DC supply?
>>> Nope, troll-feeding senile idiot: He ONLY tries to get as much
>>> attention as
>>> possible from all the assorted troll-feeding senile assholes in these
>>> groups!
>>
>> So why haven't you kill-filed any thread he starts?
>
>Because then that pathetic wretch would have nothing to post about.
>
>> If you had, you wouldn't be seeing his posts, or any response to them.
>
>But then that pathetic wretch would have nothing to post about.

Like Sloman, his hatred is his only life. Neither designs electronics.

Sad, and bad for unmoderated forums.

High voltage power supplies are certainly worth discussing.

[Sjouke Burry]

Just hook such a supply to each troll.
N.B. First wet them with lots of salt water...............

[Peeler]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 07:16:49 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain

dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:

> Like Sloman, his hatred is his only life. Neither designs electronics.

Like every truly demented idiotic senile asshole, you KEEP feeding the two
dumbest, most obnoxious and PROVEN clinically insane trolls on Usenet:
senile sociopathic Rod and attention-starved sociopathic Kinsey! It's
fucking HILARIOUS! Just HOW senile are all you troll-feeding senile bullshit
artists? LMAO

[rbowman]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 16:57:13 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

> Because then that pathetic wretch would have nothing to post about.

I believe Peeler has set a record for never having posted anything with
redeeming social value. Most trolls at least throw out something that will
elicit a reply other than FOAD.

[Peeler]

On 8 Mar 2023 03:40:11 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> I believe Peeler has set a record for never having posted anything with
> redeeming social value. Most trolls at least throw out something that will
> elicit a reply other than FOAD.

You are mistaken, my endlessly gossiping senile washerwoman: All you
trolling and troll-feeding senile assholes and bigmouths keep getting
exposed by me for what you are! And I will keep doing so UNTIL YOU CROAK
(which shouldn't last too long with some of you really pathetic and abnormal
octogenarians)! LOL

--
Yet more of the so very interesting senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
"My family loaded me into a '51 Chevy and drove from NY to Seattle and
back in '52. I'm alive. The Chevy had a painted steel dashboard with two
little hand prints worn down to the primer because I liked to stand up
and lean on it to see where we were going."
MID: <j2kuc1...@mid.individual.net>

[Rod Speed]

rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote

> Rod Speed wrote

>> Because then that pathetic wretch would have nothing to post about.

> I believe Peeler has set a record for never having posted anything with
> redeeming social value. Most trolls at least throw out something that
> will
> elicit a reply other than FOAD.

True. Weird.

[Peeler]

"Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet."

https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/rod-speed-faq.2973853/

[John Larkin]

Has he ever said anything about electronics?

[Peeler]

On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 07:32:59 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain

dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:

> Has he ever said anything about electronics?

You got a ridiculous fetishism about your idiotic "electronics", you
troll-feeding senile weirdo. LOL But then, all you discarded senile
blabbermouths are not quite right in your heads, just like that ridiculous
always verbose and grandiloquent bigmouth you just addressed. LOL

[rbowman]

On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 07:32:59 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

> Has he ever said anything about electronics?

Not that I can remember. I read this in alt.home.repair and he's never
posted anything constructive there either. I'm one of his favorite targets
for no reason I can fathom.

[Rod Speed]

Because you talk to me and the PHucker/Kinsey.

[Peeler]

On 9 Mar 2023 04:32:53 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> Not that I can remember. I read this in alt.home.repair and he's never
> posted anything constructive there either. I'm one of his favorite targets
> for no reason I can fathom.

Goes to show just HOW senile and full of yourself you are, you abnormal
bigmouthed braggart! LOL

[Peeler]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 15:45:07 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

--

John addressing the senile Australian pest:
"You are a complete idiot. But you make me larf. LOL"
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