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Cardell Cabinets-The good, the bad, the ugly????

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infiniteMPG

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Jun 11, 2008, 12:59:36 PM6/11/08
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We have been shopping for cabinets to remodel our kitchen and this has
been an ongoing battle. We started with Lowe's and likes the
Kraftmaid and Diamond but they were a little pricey and the door and
designs in our price range were pretty lame. We checked Home Depot
and same thing. Then we started looking around and stumbled across a
local supplier that carries the Cardell line of kitchen cabinets.

http://www.cardellkitchens.com/

We found a unique design we liked with a rope pattern in the door
design, raised door styles and all wood construction. Nice solid
looking drawer slides and everything seemed good. Got the pricing and
in line with the Kraftmaid stuff but a better design. We tried to
finalize the deal but after several trips all we were getting was a
hand written paper without even the company letterhead in the sheet.
We requested something more definitive but didn't get much help. We
were told we'd get a spread sheet with everything detailed but that
was two weeks ago and no word. Hate thinking we have to chaise these
people down to buy stuff from them.

When we got the quotes from Lowe's it was all detailed out with full
descriptions, drawings, terms, conditions, and everything clearly
defined. We're a little hessitant on dropping around $8K off a hand
written sheet that has a bunch of numbers on it that we don't have
anything to reference to, and with a bunch of prices hand written
beside them. We're worried if something comes in wrong we'd have
little recourse to get it fixed.

Is this a normal method of buying kitchen cabinets? Off hand written
sketches?

And has anyone had good/bad experiences with Cardell? It seems like a
good product line but the ordering methodology seems a little risky.
Do you think it could just be this one dealer? There is another
dealer only about 10 miles away (actually closer to our home) but when
we attempted to email then from their website we got the email
returned as an invalid address which didn't give us a wamr fuzzy
feeling about them either.

Any and all help would greatly appreciated!

infiniteMPG

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Jun 12, 2008, 5:08:37 PM6/12/08
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No experience with Cardell Cabinets out there? Hmmm, what does that
say :O/

dpb

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Jun 12, 2008, 5:18:14 PM6/12/08
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infiniteMPG wrote:
> No experience with Cardell Cabinets out there? Hmmm, what does that
> say :O/

Very little other than they're not a Merillat (sp?) or similar.

I'd not heard of them so didn't answer first go-round but looked at
their site this time -- not enough info there (nothing but pictures,
basically) to tell anything at all about construction, materials,
hardware, warranties, etc.

As for the other part of the story, I wouldn't deal w/ that distributor
for any product unless it were someone I knew personally that I could
trust implicitly to follow through and that's how they do business. I
know several that the description superficially fits--one is absolute
top-notch and first choice; the rest are as scatter-brained in their
work and the rest as is their estimating/pricing/design.

If there's another distributor and you're still interested in the
product and it's only 10 miles why haven't you visited them already is
the only question I'd ask.

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willshak

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Jun 12, 2008, 7:35:22 PM6/12/08
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on 6/12/2008 5:08 PM infiniteMPG said the following:

> No experience with Cardell Cabinets out there? Hmmm, what does that
> say :O/
>
Either we're too rich to buy cheap stuff, or we're too poor to buy
expensive stuff.

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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
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Rudy

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Jun 13, 2008, 1:59:47 AM6/13/08
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>> No experience with Cardell Cabinets out there?

Hey..how about Direct Buy (NOT) " $ 62,000 in cabinets for ONLY $ 38,000"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


infiniteMPG

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Jun 13, 2008, 12:01:06 PM6/13/08
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> Hey..how about Direct Buy (NOT)  " $ 62,000 in cabinets for ONLY $ 38,000"
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And $23,999 in membership fees and dues netting you a whopping $1 in
savings.... :O)

Almost fell for DirectBuy but then I sobered up... :O)

infiniteMPG

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Jun 13, 2008, 3:16:53 PM6/13/08
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> If there's another distributor and you're still interested in the
> product and it's only 10 miles why haven't you visited them already is
> the only question I'd ask.

I attempted to email in a request and the email bounced. I attempted
to send it as a fax and the fax failed. So I called them today and
their phone is disconnected. So forget them.

And the dealer with the hand written quote I did notice that they had
FOR SALE signs on their cabinet displays.... what does that say???

I wrote Cardell direct and they said the dealer who is offline has
moved (but their website is still up) but they gave me the name of
another place local (a stone's throw from my work) and I called them,
they gave me email address to send request to and were very
professional on the phone. Feel more comfortable already :O)

infiniteMPG

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Jun 19, 2008, 11:33:48 AM6/19/08
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Looks like I'm going to clean up the order with the first guy and go
for it. Got word back from the new vendor and they want almost
$12,000 for what the original guy is charging me under $7,000 for.
Wow.....

dpb

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Jun 19, 2008, 12:21:31 PM6/19/08
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I assume this includes installation? Have you seen actual samples of
each's work?

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infiniteMPG

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Jun 19, 2008, 4:27:58 PM6/19/08
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> I assume this includes installation?  Have you seen actual samples of each's work?

No installation. This is just assembled cabinets. But really top
notch looking stuff. Raised doors with curved cabinet face edges and
a rope molding in the cut trim of the door faces. This is the entire
kitchen, base units, drawers, wall cabinets, angled end cabinets, a
desk drawer for a little nook area with a leg and a wall cabinet above
it, top trim molding with rope inset, and light kit molding for under
the wall cabinets. Dumped the utility cabinet as we're going to build
one in the kitchen instead. That unit itself was almost $1,000 and we
figured we'd just frame one in and sheet rock it and make it like we
want it and save a ton of $$$.

infiniteMPG

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Jun 27, 2008, 4:28:41 PM6/27/08
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Ordered the cabinets today. Just at $7,000 including delivery and
taxes. All plywood construction (no fiberboard) and a sweet inlaid
rope pattern on the cabinet faces and the molding. After getting a
quote from a retail store only two blocks away from this place that
mainly deals with contractors that was nearly DOUBLE the cost for the
EXACT SAME PRODUCT from the EXACT SAME manufacturer we can see where
retail places make their money.... OUCH!!!!

I'll pop note in around a month from now to let everyone know how
things turned out.

Thanks for all the input,
Scott

WBrooks

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Jan 29, 2010, 12:20:11 PM1/29/10
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WBrooks had written this in response to
http://www.thestuccocompany.com/maintenance/Cardell-Cabinets-The-good-the-bad-the-ugly-312358-.htm
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infiniteMPG wrote:

> http://www.cardellkitchens.com/


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We have a like product that will be quite a bit less than Cardell and is
all wood with solid Maple doors and frames. Check us out at
http://www.directcabinetrysupply.com/ I can design your kitchen with ease
and give you and exact quote in proper format. All I need is you wall
measurements and ceiling height. If I can be of assistance please let me
know.


LivingTheDreamInSA

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Apr 22, 2013, 10:44:01 AM4/22/13
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replying to infiniteMPG, LivingTheDreamInSA wrote:
> 57classic wrote:
>
> No experience with Cardell Cabinets out there? Hmmm, what does that
> say :O/


I know this is an old thread, but I just had Cardell cabinets installed
through my builder, and was very impressed with the quality. They arrived on
time. Cabinet bases are solid, all shelves are adjustable, doors and drawer
fronts are very thick with dovetail construction (unlike the Kentmoore
cabinets this builder used previously) and glides are smooth. We have
standard drawer glides in the kitchen, which are plastic and not my favorite
but they function well and are nearly full-extension. Our bathrooms are metal
full-extension glides with soft-close drawers and I'm thrilled with them. The
crown moulding used in our job is rather ornate for a standard moulding, and I
paid for glazing and they glazed the crown too. Glazing, however, is not what
I thought it would be; more of painting a color along all the grooves, not a
true glaze. It looks good though.

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JM

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Jun 13, 2019, 8:44:06 AM6/13/19
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replying to infiniteMPG, JM wrote:
Hi,
When you have closed the last retailer, let me know. People want to not only
physically see the doors but the whole sample kitchen. You mean it costs money
to install these sample cabinets and heat and cool the showroom ? Plus you
waited patiently for the one day that the customer showed up and you wanted to
eat all the other days when no customers showed up? Boy...you are charging me
a lot of money for absolutely nothing, you greedy retailer.

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Debbie

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Feb 14, 2023, 11:45:09 PM2/14/23
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We purchased Cordell cabinets for our kitchen remodel from Menards they came a couple weeks ago and are awesome. We got design sketches of kitchen we wanted layout of all cabinets, sizes and where they go, a 3 d rendition of our design and the sheets of all items ordered. These are good cabinets. Soft close and doors are standards along with a few other things. We paid close to 10k for our cabinets, but we have a larger kitchen.

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