My wife had a plumber come out to hook up a new gas dryer. We have an
old one that broke, so all the lines are in place, it is just a matter
of disconnecting the old one and connnecting the new. No extras, like
hauling away the old dryer. The cost blew me away:
Disconnect dryer: $164.24
Install gas dryer: $282.25
Total: $446.49
This seems absoutely insane to me. I would've done it myself, but
unlike water or electricity, gas scares me. Is this anywhere close to
reasonable, or should I make a stink?
We live in suburban Washington DC, Bethesda MD to be exact, if locality
matters for this sort of thing.
Thanks,
Mike.
Around here you now need a special license to install gas appliances,
so the price has shot up. But >$400 still sounds high to me.
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Really old gas appliances used to be hard-piped to the gas supply.
This might have inflated your cost if it meant modifying this. But if
there was an existing flexible connector, you could have just
transferred it to the new appliance, or maybe replaced the connector
with an updated one. The secret to a good seal is using gas-rated
teflon tape or a sealing paste. Again, someone at a hardware store
could have helped you, and watched you practice on a spare piece of
pipe if they had one lying around. One key to loosening or tightening
the connections is to hold one side stable with a pipe wrench or
another tool, while turning the other side with another tool; that way
you don't turn both side and loosen something else down the line.
Funny think about gas; it is actually easier than water since the pressure
is so low. Leaks are easy to spot with soapy water. And if you screw it
up, the odor is noticable at much lower levels than are dangerous. You
would have to almost try to do it dangerously.
Now... this all assumes you have a shut off at the dryer. If you don't, it
is rather more difficult.
Get some other quotes. Maybe check out the supplier from
whom you purchased the new dryer.
Unless forbidden by local codes, you might as well do it
yourself. It's not hard. Get a new flexible connector line
(don't try and reuse the old one) with the right fittings,
some jointing compound (for gas) and a couple of wrenches.
Check for leaks using your nose and by painting each joint
with some soapy water and looking for bubbles.
Than take the wife out for a night on the town with the
$400 you just saved. I'm sure she'll find a way to thank
you ;-)
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Did you at least have a good orgasm? I'd have thought $150 would be on the
high side. He may have had to change a fitting or two, but the time for
labor about 1 hour. Disconnecting should be just a few minutes to turn of a
valve and break open the union.
Total should be maybe $15 or parts, 1/2 hour travel time, 1 hour labor. My
plumber charges $65 an hour in a small town. Maybe yours was a congressman
or something because a regular, no matter how shady, could not screw you as
much as a politician.
<mikec...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I would think about $150 is about right as there is not much to the
installation and it should take less than an hour. I can't expect a
service call to be less than $100, then labor $50 an hour. I use
pipe dope, channel locks, soapy water. There should be a cut-off
valve near each gas appliance. At those prices maybe I should have
been a plumber!
At least Sears tells you up front what the charge will be (and they
usually have a sale on some installation service component. It's a
good starting point for then negotiating with a private installer if
you wish to do so.
Alex
"Bethesda is a wealthy and well-educated area. According to the 2000
Census, Bethesda is the best-educated city in the nation with a
population of 50,000 or more. 79% of residents 25 or older have
bachelor's degrees and 49% have graduate or professional degrees. The
median income for a household is $99,102, and the median income for a
family was $130,160. Males had a median income of $84,797 versus
$57,569 for females. The per capita income for the area was $58,479.
About 1.7% of families and 3.3% of the population were below the
poverty line, including 1.8% of those under age 18 and 4.1% of those
age 65 or over. Many commute to Washington D.C. for work.
" http://www.answers.com/topic/bethesda-maryland
Salary in Bethesda-Frederick-Gaithersburg MD: $99,102
Comparable salary in Buffalo NY: $73,646.11
If you move from Bethesda-Frederick-Gaithersburg MD to Buffalo NY...
Groceries will cost: 11.439% less
Housing will cost: 50.559% less
Utilities will cost: 22.111% more
Transportation will cost: 8.564% less
Healthcare will cost: 15.002% less
see calculator and plug in the cities at:
http://cgi.money.cnn.com/tools/costofliving/costofliving.html
Even if you are afraid to install it yourself, there is no reason why
you could not have remioved the old one yourself if there was a working
cutoff valve at the dryer. If not then the charge to remove old dryer
and install a valve and do some repiping there would have been
justified.
And without details of what the install consisted if it's hard to say,
but adding a piece of flex hose and dryer vent stuff could have
potentially been complicated, but unilkely.
I'd make a stink, but don't expect much sympathy. I've got a couple
friends who live in that area. For four bills, I coulda drove down
from NY State and stayed overnight with friends. Done your dryer, and
then had time to go to the temple and attend a session, and come home.
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You have to starve them.
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And why didn't we know how much it was going to cost BEFORE authorizing the
work?
Cost to install one where I live, about $20. I like to put a new flex hose
any time I change a dryer, a thing of mine. I could use the old one, and
then it would be free.
You said two things. Gas scares you, and you live in Bethesda MD. Those
locals know girlie men are afraid of gas, and take every advantage.
Learn how to do it, or at least how to shop around, or quit kvetching.
Sheesh.
Steve
>mikec...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My wife had a plumber come out to hook up a new gas dryer. We have an
>> old one that broke, so all the lines are in place, it is just a matter
>> of disconnecting the old one and connnecting the new. No extras, like
>> hauling away the old dryer. The cost blew me away:
>>
>> Disconnect dryer: $164.24
>> Install gas dryer: $282.25
>> Total: $446.49
>>
>> This seems absoutely insane to me. I would've done it myself, but
>> unlike water or electricity, gas scares me. Is this anywhere close to
>> reasonable, or should I make a stink?
>>
>> We live in suburban Washington DC, Bethesda MD to be exact, if locality
>> matters for this sort of thing.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike.
>>
>Around here you now need a special license to install gas appliances,
>so the price has shot up. But >$400 still sounds high to me.
On the other hand, he didn't break anything, didn't track tar
on your new white carpet, and didn't abuse your wife or your
dog. And you've got to remember that, no matter how it's
broken down on the bill, the first $100 is just to show up
in the first place. And the plumber is trying to pay for
a house and shop in Bethesda, too, so you can't really
expect Dixville Notch type prices.
I did my own with no experience and had no l problems. I even had to
extend the gas pipe a little...simply solved with a tee and a new
legth of pipe. Checked for leaks with dish soap on the pipe. This was
about two years ago...no problems.
No real reason to be scared of gas, it's not difficult and you would
smell it if there were a leak. When we moved into our house and took our
old dryer with us, it would never have occurred to me to call anyone to
hook it up. It probably took thirty minutes to connect the gas line,
vent line, and power.
You got taken, but it's too late now.
> mikec...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My wife had a plumber come out to hook up a new gas dryer. We have
>> an old one that broke, so all the lines are in place, it is just a
>> matter of disconnecting the old one and connnecting the new. No
>> extras, like hauling away the old dryer. The cost blew me away:
>>
>> Disconnect dryer: $164.24
>> Install gas dryer: $282.25
>> Total: $446.49
>>
>> This seems absoutely insane to me. I would've done it myself, but
>> unlike water or electricity, gas scares me. Is this anywhere close
>> to reasonable, or should I make a stink?
>>
>> We live in suburban Washington DC, Bethesda MD to be exact, if
>> locality matters for this sort of thing.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike.
>>
> Around here you now need a special license to install gas appliances,
> so the price has shot up. But >$400 still sounds high to me.
>
Probably can get a cert course for $446.49
> mikec...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My wife had a plumber come out to hook up a new gas dryer. We have
>> an old one that broke, so all the lines are in place, it is just a
>> matter of disconnecting the old one and connnecting the new. No
>> extras, like hauling away the old dryer. The cost blew me away:
>>
>> Disconnect dryer: $164.24
>> Install gas dryer: $282.25
>> Total: $446.49
>>
>> This seems absoutely insane to me. I would've done it myself, but
>> unlike water or electricity, gas scares me. Is this anywhere close
>> to reasonable, or should I make a stink?
>>
>> We live in suburban Washington DC, Bethesda MD to be exact, if
>> locality matters for this sort of thing.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike.
>>
> Around here you now need a special license to install gas appliances,
> so the price has shot up. But >$400 still sounds high to me.
>
Lived in one area where final gas connection to anything had to be done
by the gas company only.
> At those prices maybe I should have
>been a plumber!
The plumber finishes the job and gives him the bill and the customer
says, "I'm a surgeon and I don't make this much money."
The plumber says, "I know. I didn't make as much either, when I was a
surgeon."
This is not to say the bill was reasonable. The OP should see if a new
valve was installed, and then could call another plumber and ask what
his price would be.
Then he could call the plumber who did the work, and say he thinks
there was a mistake on the bill, blah, blah, blah. If he says, I
think your rates are criminal and he wants a refund of part, the guy
will just get angry. I've never tried my plan either, but you never
know.
The time for that kind of thing is BEFORE the work is done.
>mm wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:45:59 GMT, Phisherman <no...@nobody.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>At those prices maybe I should have
>>>been a plumber!
>>
>>
>> The plumber finishes the job and gives him the bill and the customer
>> says, "I'm a surgeon and I don't make this much money."
>>
>> The plumber says, "I know. I didn't make as much either, when I was a
>> surgeon."
>>
>>
>>
>> This is not to say the bill was reasonable. The OP should see if a new
>> valve was installed, and then could call another plumber and ask what
>> his price would be.
>>
>> Then he could call the plumber who did the work, and say he thinks
>> there was a mistake on the bill, blah, blah, blah. If he says, I
>> think your rates are criminal and he wants a refund of part, the guy
>> will just get angry. I've never tried my plan either, but you never
>> know.
>
>The time for that kind of thing is BEFORE the work is done.
Of course, and others had already said that, but before is gone and
after has begun.
That's the time to learn from one's mistakes.
Well, either he got some sort of quote/estimate ahead of time,
and should just stick to what he agreed to, or he didn't and
should put any excess down as a stupid tax. (or educational
expense). I've got $1000 windows in my house, which is
how I learned to not be in such a damn hurry, to do a little
more research, and to trust the little warning bell that says
"this guy is a sleazeball".
(I mean, granted, they're 44" wide, 102" high, triple-glaze
argon filled, with a 50 year warranty against seal failure
and rocks, which may or may not turn out to be good, but
still....)
Think of it as part of growing up.