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George

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Feb 5, 2009, 5:35:54 AM2/5/09
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We have a gas forced-air furnace. The blower v-belt broke tonight.
Oops. I'll get one as soon as the stores open; but, in the meantime, in
case anyone is up: can I run the furnace w/o the blower, like an old
gravity furnace? Or, to put it more precisely, how long can I run it
that way?

Thanks,
G

ransley

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Feb 5, 2009, 5:38:08 AM2/5/09
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Dont, if you can get it repaired it should not run without the blower.

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 5, 2009, 5:55:22 AM2/5/09
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"George" <gbec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I'd not do it as it can overheat the heat exchanger even with a high limit
switch. OTOH, I'd be tempted to rig a fan somehow to get me through the
night.


ransley

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Feb 5, 2009, 6:20:17 AM2/5/09
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On Feb 5, 4:55 am, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
> "George" <gbecc...@verizon.net> wrote in message

Him just asking that question, shows he thinks unsafe and should not
even touch his old clunker furnace. One night, electric blanket and a
hat could have him dreaming its summer out he will be so warm.

terry

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Feb 5, 2009, 8:03:52 AM2/5/09
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> hat could have him dreaming its summer out he will be so warm.- Hide quoted text -
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Hot water bottles (electric kettle) all round; and snuggle with extra
blankets or coats on the bed! Can be fun! :-)

Van Chocstraw

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Feb 5, 2009, 9:15:23 AM2/5/09
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Heat rises cold air falls back down the cold air return.. If it's in the
basement it should be fine. Remove the filter to enhance air flow. The
burner is controlled by the heat exchanger temperature. If it's a mobile
home forget it. Heat would have to go down then up and hot air don't
flow that way.

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Van Chocstraw
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Tony Hwang

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Feb 5, 2009, 9:58:11 AM2/5/09
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> Hi,
Better half's Nylon panty will do, LOL.

Tony Hwang

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Feb 5, 2009, 10:01:05 AM2/5/09
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Van Chocstraw wrote:
> George wrote:
>> We have a gas forced-air furnace. The blower v-belt broke tonight.
>> Oops. I'll get one as soon as the stores open; but, in the meantime, in
>> case anyone is up: can I run the furnace w/o the blower, like an old
>> gravity furnace? Or, to put it more precisely, how long can I run it
>> that way?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> G
>
>
> Heat rises cold air falls back down the cold air return.. If it's in the
> basement it should be fine. Remove the filter to enhance air flow. The
> burner is controlled by the heat exchanger temperature. If it's a mobile
> home forget it. Heat would have to go down then up and hot air don't
> flow that way.
>
>
>
Hi,
Really? I better unplug blower then, to save electricity.
I hope you're joking, Eh?

tra...@optonline.net

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Feb 5, 2009, 10:41:14 AM2/5/09
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Do not run the furnace without the blower. It will quickly overheat
and trip the high temp limit switch, which will shut off the furnace.
But each time you do that you stress the heat exchanger and run the
risk of cracking it.

Besides, with the limit switch killing it in a few mins, I doubt you'd
get enough heat to make any real difference.

Van Chocstraw

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Feb 5, 2009, 11:30:18 AM2/5/09
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He didn't ask for efficiency, he just wants some heat.

George

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Feb 5, 2009, 12:47:30 PM2/5/09
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Thanks to all. I got a belt at 7:00, back in business. I just boiled
some water on the stove, with a fan blowing out from the kitchen to
spread the heat around. It didn't get as cold as I thought it would.

G

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Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 5, 2009, 9:37:33 PM2/5/09
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"George" <gbec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I love stories that have happy endings. Glad it worked out OK


cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Feb 5, 2009, 9:46:17 PM2/5/09
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That's what a WIFE is for.

ransley

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Feb 5, 2009, 11:15:50 PM2/5/09
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On Feb 5, 5:54 pm, Bubba <LiKeAlAkErem...@iname.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:38:08 -0800 (PST), ransley
> As usual ransley, you are most likely wrong again.
> It has a belt drive blower so it is most likely a very old furnace.
> Probably something like an old Williamson or one of the other Behemoth
> furnace. You can run those day and night without a belt and not hurt
> those plate steel heat exchangers. Ive seen them glowing cherry red
> and still not hurt the heat exchanger one bit. Probably has the old
> Honeywell limit that you can almost burn with a propane torch and not
> hurt it either.
> If it were a modern furnace, forget it.
> When will you ever get it right, ransley?
> Bubba

Im "most likely wrong" only a fool like you would give out public
info that could be harmfull. No pro I know of would just guess on what
he has and say something possibly unsafe is OK. And if I said go
ahead, you would pick the opposite side, just for for a stupid fight,
are you that lonely bubba, what no friends or family to kick anymore.
Althvac is your home, you are a hvac pro, go where your types are and
stay there.

ransley

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Feb 5, 2009, 11:20:09 PM2/5/09
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On Feb 5, 5:54 pm, Bubba <LiKeAlAkErem...@iname.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:38:08 -0800 (PST), ransley
>
> <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> As usual ransley, you are most likely wrong again.
> It has a belt drive blower so it is most likely a very old furnace.
> Probably something like an old Williamson or one of the other Behemoth
> furnace. You can run those day and night without a belt and not hurt
> those plate steel heat exchangers. Ive seen them glowing cherry red
> and still not hurt the heat exchanger one bit. Probably has the old
> Honeywell limit that you can almost burn with a propane torch and not
> hurt it either.
> If it were a modern furnace, forget it.
> When will you ever get it right, ransley?
> Bubba

Again did you help the guy, no. And this aint paying you either.

Doug

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Feb 6, 2009, 3:08:14 AM2/6/09
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:54:59 -0500, Bubba <LiKeAlA...@iname.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:38:08 -0800 (PST), ransley

>As usual ransley, you are most likely wrong again.
>It has a belt drive blower so it is most likely a very old furnace.
>Probably something like an old Williamson or one of the other Behemoth
>furnace. You can run those day and night without a belt and not hurt
>those plate steel heat exchangers. Ive seen them glowing cherry red
>and still not hurt the heat exchanger one bit. Probably has the old
>Honeywell limit that you can almost burn with a propane torch and not
>hurt it either.
>If it were a modern furnace, forget it.
>When will you ever get it right, ransley?
>Bubba

I've got 4 old Bryant furnaces in my apartments.
Last year a tenant ran one of the furnaces for 2 months during heavy
heating season with the blower drive belt off.
Gravity air flow and the upper limit switch must have saved the day.
As you say, the old furnaces seemingly can go indefinitely this way.

The upper limit is one of those surface mount thermo-disk types,
basically the same as a water heater thermostat. Since those go
through thousands of operational cycles, I guess these upper limit
switches can too.

I went over to do a non-related repair, heard the furnace burner on
and never heard the blower. The motor mount had loosened, the motor
shifted and the belt slipped off the pulley. After 5 minutes I had the
problem solved.

I asked the tenant about it and she said "Oh, it's always been that
way. The place is just very slow heating up."

I gotta get out of this rental biz....

Doug

Stormin Mormon

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Feb 6, 2009, 8:36:26 AM2/6/09
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That's been my experience, the customers I've talked with.
Not enough heat output to make it worth the risks.

--
Christopher A. Young
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Stormin Mormon

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Feb 6, 2009, 8:37:50 AM2/6/09
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I hope you bought two belts, and left the spare laying on
the floor inside the furnace housing (or hung on a nail near
the furnace). For next time.

Glad you found an alternate heat source.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"George" <gbec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Thanks to all. I got a belt at 7:00, back in business. I

N8N

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Feb 6, 2009, 9:06:03 AM2/6/09
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If the wife unit has any pantyhose, see if she'll donate and old pair
to the cause. Same as a "field repair" of a broken fan belt on your
car.

nate

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ransley

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Feb 6, 2009, 10:18:57 AM2/6/09
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On Feb 6, 8:42 am, Bubba <LiKeAlAkErem...@iname.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:20:09 -0800 (PST), ransley
> Hmm, it does seem that I let him know that it wouldnt hurt his
> furnace, his home wouldnt freeze, thus giving him time to figure it
> out or call in a pro. He figured it out and replaced the belt.
> Seems a far cry from what you gave him other than a headache.
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Totaly, hack, unsafe advise, that could hurt the guys equipment, you
had no idea of his type of unit. A pro doesnt do that.

ransley

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Feb 6, 2009, 10:21:16 AM2/6/09
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On Feb 6, 8:44 am, Bubba <LiKeAlAkErem...@iname.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:36:26 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"

>
> <cayoung61**spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >That's been my experience, the customers I've talked with.
> >Not enough  heat output to make it worth the risks.
>
> Advice from the only person dumber than ransley.
> Give it up Stormy. You are clueless.
> Bubba

Stormin insults no body, you bubba only insult, that is my take on
worthless.

George

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Feb 6, 2009, 5:19:06 PM2/6/09
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:54:59 -0500, Bubba <LiKeAlA...@iname.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:38:08 -0800 (PST), ransley

>As usual ransley, you are most likely wrong again.
>It has a belt drive blower so it is most likely a very old furnace.
>Probably something like an old Williamson or one of the other Behemoth

>furnace. ...

Not that it will probably help anything here; but, if it matters, the
furnace in question is a Bryant 'Quietline'. It was here when we bought
the house in '90.

G

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benick

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Feb 6, 2009, 10:05:33 PM2/6/09
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"Bubba" <LiKeAlA...@iname.com> wrote in message
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> hehe. You're and idiot ransley. A pro gets the job done. Unlike your
> advice which leaves the guy out in the cold. Thus his house freezes up
> and major damage occurs.
> His old furnace will do just fine without the blower running. You are
> a cluck ransley. A shell without a brain.
> Bubba

Jesh , will you two just go away.....

mm

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Feb 7, 2009, 12:59:53 AM2/7/09
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On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:20:17 -0800 (PST), ransley
<Mark_R...@Yahoo.com> wrote:

> One night, electric blanket and a
>hat could have him dreaming its summer out he will be so warm.

I have an electric blanket and the numbers go from one to nine or ten.

Even 2 is too hot. 1.5 is about all I can stand.

Definitely can live without a furnace for one night in most of the
world.

ransley

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Feb 7, 2009, 6:33:13 AM2/7/09
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On Feb 6, 7:31 pm, Bubba <LiKeAlAkErem...@iname.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:21:16 -0800 (PST), ransley
> Whats wrong ransley? You just dont seem to play well with others. Did
> Bubba hurt pooor pooooor whittle ranzlezzzz whittle feewlings?
> Poor baby. Grow some nads you nit-wit. If you can't play in the big
> sand box, go home.
> Bubba

Hurt me no, you hurt yourself, shoot yourself in the foot you did.

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