OT: Gazebo Top Help

[Meanie]

I recently purchased a gazebo and learned the top isn't very taunt and
therefore, holds water on each 8th section (2 per side) after a rain,
which you'll see from the outside here >>>>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/18223943@N06/9388129674/

From the inside you'll see the pockets which are present on all sides.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/18223943@N06/9385354431/in/photostream/

I don't want this to start stretching the top and permanently leaving it
sagging. I'm searching for a suggestion to resolve this issue.
Currently, the only solution I can come up with is placing a piece of
wood, such as 1/4 plywood, cut to length of each gazebo side and cut to
width (or height, if you prefer) where water pools, which is 16". Drill
holes at the ends and fasten them with zip ties around the top support
bars leading to the center. Otherwise, I try to think of methods to make
the top taunt but that could compromise its integrity.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

[gonjah]

Can you get a refund?

The reason I ask is, if you mess with it you might damage it making it
nonreturnable.

Were there any assembly instructions? Are they online anywhere we can
look at them? My first thought is to use a shim somewhere to tighten the
fabric. But that is probably easier said than done.

[Oren]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:55:28 -0400, Meanie <meani...@gmail.com>
wrote:

In lieu of the plywood (weight) could you use some lengths of PVC pipe
above the canopy ribs ("bars leading to the center") where the water
collects?

[Dean Hoffman]

On 7/28/13 4:11 PM, Oren wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:55:28 -0400, Meanie <meani...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I recently purchased a gazebo and learned the top isn't very taunt and
>> therefore, holds water on each 8th section (2 per side) after a rain,
>> which you'll see from the outside here >>>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/18223943@N06/9388129674/
>>
>> From the inside you'll see the pockets which are present on all sides.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/18223943@N06/9385354431/in/photostream/

>> Thanks
>
> In lieu of the plywood (weight) could you use some lengths of PVC pipe
> above the canopy ribs ("bars leading to the center") where the water
> collects?
>

I wonder if running some PVC horizontally around the roof would
work. Run it under the top. Connect it with some 90� elbows.
Bin roof stiffeners are a rough example: http://tinyurl.com/ntymrld
They're mounted externally but the idea is the same.

[Tony Hwang]

Hi,
When I had them I had same issues. I managed to put up measure to cut
lattice panel pieces instead of your idea. I got tired of taking the top
off for winter and putting back on in the spring, Both my gazebos are
hard top permanent set up.

[Oren]

From the OP photo it looks like water collects on two sides of the
canopy fabric? Just a couple of PVC pieces may solve the problem with
water collection. Worth a try and could be tested with a water hose.
Nothing permanent, just enough to lift the fabric off the ribs so the
water runs off.

Some Velcro strips would hold the PVC in place atop the canopy ribs
(underside).

[micky]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:55:28 -0400, Meanie <meani...@gmail.com>
wrote:

It's easy. Find the approximate center point of each of the 8 pools
and cut a hole in the fabric there, so the water will drain out. No
streching or sagging!


If you're picky and you don't like that, run a strip of woven cloth
from each pool to the edge of the roof and a little beyond, so that
the cloth will wick up the water and run it off the edge. How to
attach 8 wicks? Maybe run a ring or a square around the whole thing,
as high as the center of each pool (when the pool is small) or maybe
higher if that looks better, and run the 8 wicks from the ring, so
that they start in or pass through each pool, then go below the
nearest edge. Three maybe 6 inches might be enough. . I think the
longer the wick below the edge, the faster it will drain. OTOH,
since it will be there when the pool has just begun, it will start
draining almost right away and maybe speed won't matter much. It just
needs to be the speed of the rain, so maybe speed does matter.

Or if it's only two sections out of 8. maybe run them down from the
peak.

For a wick, I think almost any woven cloth will work, but the the
drawstring of pajamas might work better than average. (Well pajamas
50 years ago. I haven't worn them in 40 years and I think my last
pair was elastic and had no drawstring. Then the string was more
than 1/2" wide and it wasn't woven tightly, with air holes that would
become water holes. Of course candle wicks seem not to have much in
the way of airholes.

BTW, my next door neighbor left one of thse out during the winter and
the snow crushed it, bend the metal parts but I think left the cloth
part undamaged. He must have liked it though because he bought
another one.

[Dean Hoffman]

Ah. I see what you mean. Your suggestion is simpler.

[Vic Smith]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:55:28 -0400, Meanie <meani...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I've had same problem with my last 2 tops.
Had 2 gazebos pretty close to yours.
My wife pokes it with broom after a rain.
Let me know what works for you Those struts are weak to lateral
forces and I never wanted to attach any weight to them. They'll sag,
and you'll just collect water again.
The first gazebo we had there was never a canvas sagging problem, but
one year a heavy snow collapsed it, mangling the upper struts and
centerpiece hub. Now we take the top down in the late fall.

I just looked at mine. A couple of the middle canvas strut pockets
aren't even on the struts. Not sure is the canvas was cut too big, or
the struts made too short. Probably badly cut canvas.
I always wished they put length adjusters on the end of the struts so
you can pull the canvas taut with them. You have to stretch the
canvas pockets over the end of the struts, and I've had a number of
pockets tear.
This is cheap Chinese crap, so I don't worry much about replacing it.
We've enjoyed the gazebos, but don't expect many years from them.
Here's the solutions I think would work, if you're up to doing them.

1. Fabricate length adjusters for strut ends. You can draw the canvas
taut with them. Or shorten the struts with them to accommodate a
canvas that is cut too tight. I've bought 2 aftermarket canvasses for
10x10 gazebos. One was tight, leading to torn pocket areas, one was
loose. leading to sagging and water pockets.
The 2 obvious methods for adjusters are screw ends or clamping.
Never thought farther than that, except that I could do it with a bit
of thought and work.

2. This is easier, and if your canvas pockets are all on the struts,
might do it. No big loss if doesn't work.
If all my pockets were on the struts, I'd try it myself.
Tie a non-stretching string/cord/wire around the hub, then run it
under the sag, and attach it to the top horizontal rail.
Do it for every sag that collects water.

3. Sew or clamp a strap to the canvas edge where it most easily
eliminates the sag by pulling. You can tie it off to a lower
horizontal rail (ugly) or attach a small flower pot or decorative
object to the end of the strap.

I've noticed on mine that very little pulling force on the edge will
eliminate the sag. I might do this on mine. But poking the water out
with a broom handle is working so far. I'm just not too big on
worrying about it. Water sags drip through, but we don't sit in the
gazebo when it's raining. If you let the water sit long, it'll stain
the canvas from collecting dirt, but you get plenty of bird shit on
it anyway. Just not something I'm going to worry about.

Funny thing about those gazebos is I paid 80 bucks each for 2
replacement tops over the years. Both were a bit loose.
But I only paid about $150 each for the entire gazebo with canvas.
Both were tight, and the pockets tore a bit right off.
You have to shop around, or you can pay twice as much for the same
thing.


Let me know what works for you.

[gregz]

Can't see what's on top, but I beefed up my canopy with strings in between
sections. String will also tend to stretch with moisture. I have not used
it in some time, so I have forgot how I secured.

Greg

[Meanie]

Thank you all for the suggestions, which are all good and something I
will consider. I may not get to it right away, but I'll post back and
let you know what works.

Thanks

[Red Green]

micky <NONONO...@bigfoot.com> wrote in
news:27abv8hat4cs88gla...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:55:28 -0400, Meanie <meani...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I recently purchased a gazebo and learned the top isn't very taunt and
>>therefore, holds water on each 8th section (2 per side) after a rain,
>>which you'll see from the outside here >>>>
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/18223943@N06/9388129674/
>>
>> From the inside you'll see the pockets which are present on all
>> sides.
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/18223943@N06/9385354431/in/photostream/
>>
>>I don't want this to start stretching the top and permanently leaving
>>it sagging. I'm searching for a suggestion to resolve this issue.
>>Currently, the only solution I can come up with is placing a piece of
>>wood, such as 1/4 plywood, cut to length of each gazebo side and cut
>>to width (or height, if you prefer) where water pools, which is 16".
>>Drill holes at the ends and fasten them with zip ties around the top
>>support bars leading to the center. Otherwise, I try to think of
>>methods to make the top taunt but that could compromise its integrity.
>>
>>Any suggestions?
>>
>>Thanks
>
> It's easy. Find the approximate center point of each of the 8 pools
> and cut a hole in the fabric there, so the water will drain out. No
> streching or sagging!

And don't forget the gutters & downspouts.

[puppy...@gmail.com]

Thank you!! Perfect solution for my water problem! I was completely over thinking this! 😁