Suggestion to pump gasoline from one car to another in a garage
William Brammer
another in a garage?
My wife always fills up at the most expensive stations while I get my gas
at the least expensive I can find using Gas Buddy.
I'd like to weekly (or so) transfer about 15 gallons (or so) from my tank
to hers in my garage (or just outside the garage).
Any suggestions for a good pump for gasoline?
mike
One that automatically dials 911 when the temperature exceeds 1000 degrees.
Joe
"William Brammer" <bramme...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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you've piqued my curiosity about *why* you want to transfer (especially
weekly). Wouldn't it be easier just to switch the station at which you fill
up? (or to take her car to put some less expensive gas in it)
Seems like a lot of work to solve a non-existent problem.
Ed Pawlowski
My advice is to learn to live with it or fill the wife's tank for her.
Transferring gas in the grage is plain DUMB. My brother set the house on
fire 50 years ago doing that. He was a kid and did not know any better.
Even at 10� a gallon difference, you'd save $1.50 a week. Worth the risk?
Worth the time and trouble and expense of a pump? Find a reasonalbe priced
station on her route and use it regularly.
ransley
My car I cant even get a siphon hose into, its a theft saftey device,
probably one of your cars has it. It would still be best to get her to
switch for other reasons.
Frank
I agree with others - stupid idea.
Tegger
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Or why doesn't just have a peek at her gas gauge once in a while, and if
it's getting low, go get the tank filled for her.
He will accomplish two, and possibly three, things that way:
1) Get cheaper gas in her car,
2) Look like a kind, caring and considerate husband, and
3) possibly get more sex on account of #2.
A win all around, I say.
--
Tegger
Bill
Doug Miller
1. Go out for donuts and coffee every Saturday morning while your wife sleeps
in. Take her car, and fill it up yourself while you're out. Don't tell her
why; simply let her assume it's because you're a loving, devoted husband, and
reap the rewards of that assumption.
2. Do The Math, Part I -- how much time and gas do you spend, driving out of
your way to get the least expensive gas you can find? If you drive five miles
out of your way to save a nickel a gallon, you're effectively placing a value
of less than $3/hour on your time.
3. Do the Math, Part II -- what's the difference between what you pay, and
what she pays? Maybe 10-12 cents per gallon? So the fifteen gallons you
propose to transfer every week represents a savings of $1.50 to $1.80 a week
in gasoline costs. How many years before the pump pays for itself?
4. Do the Math, Part III -- Repeat the previous calculation, subtracting a
reasonable value for the time you spend doing this from the amount you save on
gas. *Now* how long before the pump pays for itself? (Hint: if the value you
place on your time exceeds about $6/hour, the answer to this question is
"never".)
5. Do the Math, Part IV -- if your wife is using fifteen gallons of gas a week
commuting to and from work, you need to buy her a more fuel-efficient car. I
can drive my Saturn over 400 miles in the city, and over 500 on the highway,
on fifteen gallons of gas. I bet your wife isn't driving 80-100 miles a day.
HeyBub
Just about any pump made for the purpose should work.
There ARE alternate ideas, some of which have been mentioned.
My favorite would be the reverse of what you propose: Remove some (amount
of) gasoline from HER car and put it in YOUR car. As the price she must pay
to run errands increases dramatically, she may, on her own, move to reduce
her expenses.
Stormin Mormon
siphons. I'd suggest to keep a 5 gal gascan in your trunk,
and fill it when you fill. Pour that gasoline into her tank
when you have a moment. That will take some of the strain
off her fuel bill.
--
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"William Brammer" <bramme...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
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Frank
> Most cars, now days, have baffles and such to prevent
> siphons. I'd suggest to keep a 5 gal gascan in your trunk,
> and fill it when you fill. Pour that gasoline into her tank
> when you have a moment. That will take some of the strain
> off her fuel bill.
>
The new gasoline containers regulated here in DE are a real PITA - slow
to pour and often spill the gas they were meant to store without fumes
or spillage.
And, running around town to buy the cheapest gas is often not cost
effective. You may save a nickle a gallon but burn a gallon going out
of your way.
William Brammer
> Wouldn't it be easier just to switch the station at which you fill
> up? (or to take her car to put some less expensive gas in it)
I switch stations all the time but my wife does not. I work near Costco
which is only about $2.90 a gallon nowadays while the gas stations she goes
to are $3.10 or so. We live very far (20- miles) from the nearest gas
station. She would love it if the "gas tank just filled itself".
She grew up in the only state in the USA that has true self serve (where
you stay in the car the whole time) and she hates those "cash only"
stations that make you wait in line at the checkout twice just to fill up.
So she goes to the expensive fill up stations which are more convenient and
closer to where she shops.
Of course as you suggested, I could just go out at 6am or 11pm and simply
take her car out for gas, it would be much less work to just fill up her
car from a tank at home.
I considered buying a 500 gallon gasoline tank but then I learned that gas
goes stale so that would only be useful for commercial establishments.
Anyway, there must be someone else with a similar problem that has found a
workable solution.
William Brammer
> Or why doesn't just have a peek at her gas gauge once in a while, and if
> it's getting low, go get the tank filled for her.
To make a 40-mile round trip "just" to fill up a gas tank doesn't seem
viable.
> 3) possibly get more sex on account of #2.
:)
Vic Smith
Never had that problem where I live, as there are many options.
Seem the easiest option is to switch cars when she gets low, and fill
hers up at the Costco.
Of course one of you may find reason to reject that option.
Which means it just ain't that important.
Any gas transfer scheme is plain stupid, both from the cost and safety
perspectives.
--Vic
William Brammer
> The new gasoline containers regulated here in DE are a real PITA - slow
> to pour and often spill the gas they were meant to store without fumes
> or spillage.
I wish, oh how I wish, I could find on the Internet a gasoline container
like the old style! (two holes ... a capped vent and a pour spout). Out
herre, we have these CARB-mandated gas cans which are "supposed" to prevent
fumes.
I never spilled so much gasoline in my life. I guess I could find a
10-gallon gas can somewhere, and that might work as you suggested.
> And, running around town to buy the cheapest gas is often not cost
> effective.
I drive by a Costco every morning and evening so that's where I get the
cheapest gas (it's less than $2.90/gallon where, in town, nothing is less
than $3.08 and many are more).
<JOE
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Van Chocstraw
You already have a fuel pump in your tank. Tap the fuel rail on the
engine. There is usually a drain tap there. Connect a hose to that,
stick it in your wife's gas tank filler and turn the key on.
Stormin Mormon
spout. I usually screw the spout off, and pour through a
funnel.
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DerbyDad03
re: " 3) possibly get more sex on account of #2.
A win all around, I say."
Except perhaps for the wife. ;-)
George
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:56:32 -0500, Frank wrote:
>
>> The new gasoline containers regulated here in DE are a real PITA - slow
>> to pour and often spill the gas they were meant to store without fumes
>> or spillage.
>
> I wish, oh how I wish, I could find on the Internet a gasoline container
> like the old style! (two holes ... a capped vent and a pour spout). Out
> herre, we have these CARB-mandated gas cans which are "supposed" to prevent
> fumes.
>
> I never spilled so much gasoline in my life. I guess I could find a
> 10-gallon gas can somewhere, and that might work as you suggested.
Well silly you aren't supposed to use it for filling your car. You are
supposed to go and buy the cans that algore says you can't have to do
that...
ransley
wrote:
That is the dumbest idea so far.
William Brammer
>> Any suggestions for a good pump for gasoline?
>
> You already have a fuel pump in your tank. Tap the fuel rail on the
> engine. There is usually a drain tap there.
There's a "drain" tap on the fuel injection rail? (or are you joking?)
If you're not joking, I'll have to look.
If a fuel rail tap exists, maybe it's threaded for nice secure connections.
Master Betty
I thought you were joking. Do you really think it's worth buying a pump or
taking any chances? How many miles do you and your wife drive? This sounds
more like a domestic argument that got out-of-hand.
Van Chocstraw
Depends on the make and model. If there isn't it's not a big job to put
a union and tap valve there. Fuel constantly circulates from and to the
tank around the rail. It's a good place to tap off.
Scott Dorsey
>>
>>>> Any suggestions for a good pump for gasoline?
>>>
>>> You already have a fuel pump in your tank. Tap the fuel rail on the
>>> engine. There is usually a drain tap there.
>>
>> There's a "drain" tap on the fuel injection rail? (or are you joking?)
>>
>> If you're not joking, I'll have to look.
>>
>> If a fuel rail tap exists, maybe it's threaded for nice secure
>> connections.
>
>I thought you were joking. Do you really think it's worth buying a pump or
>taking any chances? How many miles do you and your wife drive? This sounds
>more like a domestic argument that got out-of-hand.
I have in fact used a line from the fuel rail to fill a generator fuel
tank from a car in an emergency situation. You can do it. It's not something
I'd want to do except in an emergency, though.
The thing is, though... you have a social problem. Technical solutions
don't solve social problems, and attempts to solve social problems with
technical solutions result only in disaster and angry wives.
--scott
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Doug Miller
>On Jan 7, 7:31=A0am, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
>> ransley <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote innews:5eb5d4ba-3ff2-4929-8130-2c7=
>f419...@21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:
If it's not, the husband is doing something wrong....
Master Betty
"Scott Dorsey" <klu...@panix.com> wrote in message
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And to top it off he's talking about 20 cents a gallon.
Sometimes I shake my head and wonder why my wife does things but I remind
myself that she's as smart or smarter than I am and she has her reasons. If
I was concerned about the 20 cents I'd ask why she doesn't look around. Then
I'd just accept the explanation. Even if it's just "I don't want to."
Doug Miller
>The thing is, though... you have a social problem. Technical solutions
>don't solve social problems, and attempts to solve social problems with
>technical solutions result only in disaster and angry wives.
Hence my suggestion that he go out for donuts and coffee every Saturday
morning while she sleeps in, take her car, and fill it up himself while he's
out.
HeyBub
>
> The thing is, though... you have a social problem. Technical
> solutions
> don't solve social problems, and attempts to solve social problems
> with technical solutions result only in disaster and angry wives.
Hmm. Lethal injections, abortion, and predator drones come to mind as
technical solutions to domestic problems.
Tony Hwang
>> Any suggestion on a good gasoline pump to move gas from one vehicle to
>> another in a garage?
>>
>> My wife always fills up at the most expensive stations while I get my gas
>> at the least expensive I can find using Gas Buddy.
>>
>> I'd like to weekly (or so) transfer about 15 gallons (or so) from my tank
>> to hers in my garage (or just outside the garage).
>>
>
> weekly). Wouldn't it be easier just to switch the station at which you fill
> up? (or to take her car to put some less expensive gas in it)
>
>
>
Hi,
I wonder how much he saves doing that. Too cheap gas can cause trouble
in cold winter. Hope he hs a fire extinguisher habdy while doing it. I
fill my wife's car. We always fill up when tank goes half full in winter.
Caesar Romano
<bramme...@sbcglobal.net> wrote Re Suggestion to pump gasoline from
one car to another in a garage:
>Any suggestion on a good gasoline pump to move gas from one vehicle to
>another in a garage?
>
>My wife always fills up at the most expensive stations while I get my gas
>at the least expensive I can find using Gas Buddy.
>
>I'd like to weekly (or so) transfer about 15 gallons (or so) from my tank
>to hers in my garage (or just outside the garage).
>
>Any suggestions for a good pump for gasoline?
http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Scepter-6792/p798.html
--
Work is the curse of the drinking class.
Tony
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:31:25 +0000 (UTC), Tegger wrote:
>
>> Or why doesn't just have a peek at her gas gauge once in a while, and if
>> it's getting low, go get the tank filled for her.
>
> To make a 40-mile round trip "just" to fill up a gas tank doesn't seem
> viable.
Just switch vehicles once a week. Or can't she drive your vehicle?
Steve Barker
> Any suggestion on a good gasoline pump to move gas from one vehicle to
> another in a garage?
>
> My wife always fills up at the most expensive stations while I get my gas
> at the least expensive I can find using Gas Buddy.
>
> I'd like to weekly (or so) transfer about 15 gallons (or so) from my tank
> to hers in my garage (or just outside the garage).
>
> Any suggestions for a good pump for gasoline?
you've GOT to be kidding, right? Why not just take your wife's car to
the cheapskate place yourself? Fill it for her if you're worried about
a nickle.
Master Betty
"Caesar Romano" <Sp...@uce.gov> wrote in message
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To pay for that he'd have to siphon at least 750 gal. I think the money
would be better spent on a marriage counselor.
Tony Hwang
Under pressure. Very possible to spill gas in your garage.
Lot of work and trouble to save a few bucks a month. I'd rather keep the
car in tip top shape(tire pressure, air filter....) and try not to be
lead foot.
Tony Hwang
Another possibility, he wants to go high sniffing gas fume while
x-ferring gas? Maybe that's it, LOL!
Joe
Interesting. You may want to try Grainger.com. search for Gasoline
transfer pump. Not cheap, but I have a feeling you already knew that.
good luck with your search.
jc
Steve W.
Yes there is a fitting on the fuel rail.
You need a special fitting to screw onto it to open the valve and get
fuel out.
The fuel pump will NOT stay running constantly by just turning the key.
It will turn on for a couple seconds and then shut off.
You will be waiting about 30 minutes to transfer the gas. The pumps
don't pump a lot of volume. It's a great way to burn out the pump.
--
Steve W.
Steve W.
> Any suggestion on a good gasoline pump to move gas from one vehicle to
> another in a garage?
>
> My wife always fills up at the most expensive stations while I get my gas
> at the least expensive I can find using Gas Buddy.
>
> I'd like to weekly (or so) transfer about 15 gallons (or so) from my tank
> to hers in my garage (or just outside the garage).
>
Easier way is for YOU to buy a couple 5 gallon gas cans. Take them with
you and fill them up on the way home. Top up the wifes car as needed.
Also gives you gas on hand if YOU run low.
--
Steve W.
hls
> goes stale so that would only be useful for commercial establishments.
>
> Anyway, there must be someone else with a similar problem that has found a
> workable solution.
>
>
There are chemicals that you can add to the tank to prevent or greatly slow
any degradation. And, you can fit it with a condensation trap to preclude
moisture transfer. This plan could work if you have a place with enough
land
to keep the tank clear of the house.
ransley
Its a great way to to ruin fittings and set your car up for a future
leak and fire, I would never mess with some kind of tap or valve off a
pressurised fuel system near the motor. Car fires do occur from fuel
leaks, your insurace co probably wont honor a claim with a tap put in
after they inspect it.
hls
"Steve W." <csr...@NOTyahoo.com> wrote in message news:hi51uo$3i0
> Easier way is for YOU to buy a couple 5 gallon gas cans. Take them with
> you and fill them up on the way home. Top up the wifes car as needed.
> Also gives you gas on hand if YOU run low.
>
> --
> Steve W.
This can be dangerous too. The answer is that his wife should fill it when
she
is in town, or he should take her car every week or two and fill it up.
You cant foolproof this type of situation. Fools are too clever at getting
around
almost every precaution.
JIMMIE
> Any suggestion on a good gasoline pump to move gas from one vehicle to
> another in a garage?
>
> My wife always fills up at the most expensive stations while I get my gas
> at the least expensive I can find using Gas Buddy.
>
> I'd like to weekly (or so) transfer about 15 gallons (or so) from my tank
> to hers in my garage (or just outside the garage).
>
I agree with others that what you are planning is not practical and
may be dangerous. That said I installed a valve on my truck in the
fuel line that I can open and it will let me draw gas from the truck.
I have used this for lawnmower gas, helping a stranded motorist and
lantern and generator fuel when camping. Since traded that truck in
and the current model will shut down the fuel pump after a few seconds
if the engine isnt started. I miss the old setup and have thought
about just putting together a set of hoses with an external tank fuel
pump that I can keep in my tool box.
Jimmie
hls
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Jimmie
********
It is done, and has been done, but is probably not the best of ideas.
Heron McKeister
Quite simply and demonstrably not true on two points.
While the OP didn't mention the make/model on which
he's considering doing this, many vehicles have quick
disconnects (similar to the below) at the fuel rail that
don't even require a tool for removal, i.e. simply
squeeze together the Tabs (1.) and remove the line.
http://www.diesel-max.com/my_files/images/quick-connect_fitting_400x300.jpg
Detail of nylon quick disconnect insert showing Tabs
http://www.clipsandfasteners.com/v/vspfiles/photos/A19222-2T.jpg
Jumpering two terminals on the fuel pump relay will
allow the pump to run continuously (as it does on
most applications while the engine is running) and
under nearly no load conditions, would commonly
pump the requested volume in certainly no greater
than 15 minutes (e.g., see NapaOnLine.com Bosch
pump p/n BSHN69223:delivers ~44 G/H @ 28 PSI)
However, for an issue easily (even given this minimal
amount of effort) otherwise addressed, it is a genuinely
dangerous enterprise.for such extremely limited returns.
N8N
Friend of mine has a Carter electric fuel pump screwed to a large
board (to keep it from flopping around in use) with lengths of rubber
fuel hose attached to it for just this purpose. Wired up with heavy
zip cord with alligator clips so you can clamp onto the battery
terminals of your car. Works great on older cars; utterly useless on
a newer car with an anti-siphon baffle in the filler neck.
nate
Ad absurdum per aspera
> Any suggestions for a good pump for gasoline?
I was going to offer some suggestions but William Brammer stepped up
to the plate and went 4-for-4 (we're waiting for an instant replay
review of the fifth at-bat; whether it went fair or foul depends on
how far, and which way, your wife drives). If I may summarize:
you're going to some nontrivial expense and exposure to danger (if
you must do this, "just outside the garage" is an excellent thought!)
to save, in the big picture, not very much money.
We think of gasoline as fairly safe stuff, but it really isn't -- it
just seems that way because we use some pretty specific technology,
and safety rules, when storing and handling it.
--Joe
DerbyDad03
>
> Detail of nylon quick disconnect insert showing Tabshttp://www.clipsandfasteners.com/v/vspfiles/photos/A19222-2T.jpg
>
> Jumpering two terminals on the fuel pump relay will
> allow the pump to run continuously (as it does on
> most applications while the engine is running) and
> under nearly no load conditions, would commonly
> pump the requested volume in certainly no greater
> than 15 minutes (e.g., see NapaOnLine.com Bosch
> pump p/n BSHN69223:delivers ~44 G/H @ 28 PSI)
>
> However, for an issue easily (even given this minimal
> amount of effort) otherwise addressed, it is a genuinely
>
> - Show quoted text -
re: "Jumpering two terminals on the fuel pump relay will allow the
pump to run continuously (as it does on most applications while the
engine is running)"
Or just *start* the car while you're tapped in to keep the pump
running.
Let us know how the ECM deals with that!
BTW...You might want to consider opening the garage door also.
The Daring Dufas
If I remember correctly, back in the 70's during the Arab oil embargo,
the Alabama State Troopers had the patrol cars modified to dispense
some fuel for stranded motorists who ran out of gas on the Interstate.
The announcement included a statement that the measure was not meant
to get you to your travel destination but to get you safely off the
highway and to a gas station.
TDD
Heron McKeister
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*********************
Once the supply line is removed from the fuel rail,
the engine is starved for fuel and won't run. No
additonal hardware (such as a tap) is required.
*********************
> Let us know how the ECM deals with that!
*********************
Should it not have been clear, the pump relay is
actually first removed, then the socket terminals (often
3 & 5) are jumpered. I KNOW, I've performed this
procedure an untold number of times. Kindly inform
me should you require additional spoon-feeding.
*********************
ben91932
wrote:
> Any suggestion on a good gasoline pump to move gas from one vehicle to
> another in a garage?
>
> My wife always fills up at the most expensive stations while I get my gas
> at the least expensive I can find using Gas Buddy.
>
> I'd like to weekly (or so) transfer about 15 gallons (or so) from my tank
> to hers in my garage (or just outside the garage).
>
Gas transfer + water heater = disaster.
Gas up both cars yourself or grow a pair... ;)
DerbyDad03
> "DerbyDad03" <teamarr...@eznet.net> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Perchance you missed the fact that I was being facetious.
Whoosh!
Is that the sound of a joke going over someone's head or the sound of
gas fumes igniting in a garage?
I wonder....
DerbyDad03
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
re: "...Alabama State Troopers had the patrol cars modified to
dispense some fuel for stranded motorists who ran out of gas..."
Maybe "modified" meant opening the trunk and placing one of those red
gas cans inside.
Tegger
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:31:25 +0000 (UTC), Tegger wrote:
>
>> Or why doesn't just have a peek at her gas gauge once in a while, and
>> if it's getting low, go get the tank filled for her.
>
> To make a 40-mile round trip "just" to fill up a gas tank doesn't seem
> viable.
Well you never said that before.
How about getting her a prepaid gift card for the cheapie station?
--
Tegger
Tegger
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 10:46:10 GMT, Joe wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't it be easier just to switch the station at which you fill
>> up? (or to take her car to put some less expensive gas in it)
>
> I switch stations all the time but my wife does not. I work near
> Costco which is only about $2.90 a gallon nowadays while the gas
> stations she goes to are $3.10 or so. We live very far (20- miles)
> from the nearest gas station. She would love it if the "gas tank just
> filled itself".
So you're going to do all this to save 20 cents per gallon?
At 15 gallons per week, you're potentially saving...three dollars.
That's $12 per month.
Unless you're /really/ stuck for cash, is it even worth it?
--
Tegger
Tegger
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>
> "William Brammer" <bramme...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:hi4uef$u81$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:27:01 -0500, Van Chocstraw wrote:
>>
>>>> Any suggestions for a good pump for gasoline?
>>>
>>> You already have a fuel pump in your tank. Tap the fuel rail on the
>>> engine. There is usually a drain tap there.
>>
>> There's a "drain" tap on the fuel injection rail? (or are you
>> joking?)
>>
>> If you're not joking, I'll have to look.
>>
>> If a fuel rail tap exists, maybe it's threaded for nice secure
>> connections.
>
> I thought you were joking. Do you really think it's worth buying a
> pump or taking any chances? How many miles do you and your wife drive?
> This sounds more like a domestic argument that got out-of-hand.
>
He's going to save three dollars a week doing what he wants to do.
--
Tegger
Heron McKeister
Whoosh!
I wonder....
=====================================
Given your emphasis to simply "start" the car and
the taking to task of my suggestion to jumper the
relay with your "Let us know how the ECM deals
with that!" statement, you'll surely understand if I
put no stock whatsoever in either your "yea, that's
the ticket" latter day claim of facetiousness or your
followup insulting pretentious superciliousness.
DerbyDad03
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
re: "...I put no stock whatsoever in ... your "yea, that's the ticket"
latter day claim..."
Ya know, I'm OK with that.
I know when I'm making a funny and that's really all that matters, at
least to me.
There is no possible way for me to convince you otherwise, even if I
say "Really I was...*really!*" so we'll just let this slide with you
thinking what you're going to think and me knowing the truth.
Heron McKeister
---------------------------------------------
An intended comedic retort that requires an
explanation totally fails as an attempt at humor.
Next.
DerbyDad03
> Next.
Let it slide, my friend, let it slide. It's really not worth getting
all lathered up over something so trivial as a missed joke.
You've made valid points regarding relay terminals and nylon quick
disconnect inserts and the gallons per hour delivered by a specific
Bosch pump. We get it...you know what you're talking about.
I'll tell you what. The next time I respond in a thread that you are
participating in, I'll be sure to use ;-) and :-o and :-( etc. so
that you'll be able to determine whether I was trying to be humorous
or not. I certainly wouldn't want you to miss the chance to chuckle at
my jocularity.
Jules
> or the sound of gas fumes igniting in a garage?
That'd probably be more of a "whummmmmph"...
DerbyDad03
wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:39:56 -0800, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > or the sound of gas fumes igniting in a garage?
>
> That'd probably be more of a "whummmmmph"...
re: "whummmmmph"
True dat!
I went on a cabin-building camping trip many years ago. One night we
piled up a lot of the scrap wood for a bonfire.
Unbeknownst to us, one of the campers - an adult! - poured gasoline
around the base of the pile to help it get started. The pile was big
enough that by the time he walked all the way around it, put down the
gas can and grabbed his lighter, the fumes had spread out into a
fairly large circle.
I was almost a quarter of a mile from the fire but I still heard the
"whummmmmph" ... and then all the yelling/screaming.
My 2 daughters, 3 and 4 at the time, were sitting on the lap of their
16 YO cousin near the pile. He saw the ball of flames heading his way
and flipped sideways out of the chair, landing facedown with my
daughters underneath him. The flames singed the back of his hair as
they swept over them. The girls were scared but totally unharmed. I
cooked that kid a huge breakfast the next morning!
dsi1
> Any suggestion on a good gasoline pump to move gas from one vehicle to
> another in a garage?
>
> My wife always fills up at the most expensive stations while I get my gas
> at the least expensive I can find using Gas Buddy.
>
> I'd like to weekly (or so) transfer about 15 gallons (or so) from my tank
> to hers in my garage (or just outside the garage).
>
My suggestion is that you buy 2 cars that are identical in every way and
switch them while the little lady is sleeping. You'll have to 'esplain
why her car never needs any gas and why your car needs constant
refilling but I'm sure you'll come up with something. :-)
Caesar Romano
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote Re Re: Suggestion to pump gasoline from
one car to another in a garage:
>On Jan 7, 4:35�pm, Jules <jules.richardsonn...@remove.this.gmail.com>
>wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:39:56 -0800, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> > �or the sound of gas fumes igniting in a garage?
>>
>> That'd probably be more of a "whummmmmph"...
>
>re: "whummmmmph"
>
>True dat!
>
>I went on a cabin-building camping trip many years ago. One night we
>piled up a lot of the scrap wood for a bonfire.
>
>Unbeknownst to us, one of the campers - an adult! - poured gasoline
>around the base of the pile to help it get started. The pile was big
>enough that by the time he walked all the way around it, put down the
>gas can and grabbed his lighter, the fumes had spread out into a
>fairly large circle.
>
>I was almost a quarter of a mile from the fire but I still heard the
>"whummmmmph" ... and then all the yelling/screaming.
Sounds like our annual bon fire. Check it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sb9jIJJ82U
The light-off come about 10-seconds from the start of the video. Keep
you eyes on the small white dot at 4-O'clock 1/2 way from the center
to the edge. Wait for the "whummmmmmmmph".
--
Work is the curse of the drinking class.
Stormin Mormon
--
Christopher A. Young
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"Jules" <jules.rich...@remove.this.gmail.com> wrote
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Jon Danniken
>>
> I went on a cabin-building camping trip many years ago. One night we
> piled up a lot of the scrap wood for a bonfire.
>
> Unbeknownst to us, one of the campers - an adult! - poured gasoline
> around the base of the pile to help it get started. The pile was big
> enough that by the time he walked all the way around it, put down the
> gas can and grabbed his lighter, the fumes had spread out into a
> fairly large circle.
>
> I was almost a quarter of a mile from the fire but I still heard the
> "whummmmmph" ... and then all the yelling/screaming.
>
> My 2 daughters, 3 and 4 at the time, were sitting on the lap of their
> 16 YO cousin near the pile. He saw the ball of flames heading his way
> and flipped sideways out of the chair, landing facedown with my
> daughters underneath him. The flames singed the back of his hair as
> they swept over them. The girls were scared but totally unharmed. I
> cooked that kid a huge breakfast the next morning!
When I was a kid, I lit some gasonline in the garage. It caught fire, made
a yellow flame, then extinguished itself.
I really didn't see that the big deal was.
So, I make a bigger pile of gas, lit it, and although the flame got a little
higher (maybe a foot or two), it was still fairly unremarkable.
Undaunted, I made an even bigger pile of gas. Unfortunately, I realized I
needed more matches, so I left my pile of gas on the floor and went into the
house to get more matches.
When I came back out and lit the gas, I finally understood what the big deal
was about gasoline, and more importantly, gasoline vapors.
Jon
aemeijers
> Any suggestion on a good gasoline pump to move gas from one vehicle to
> another in a garage?
>
> My wife always fills up at the most expensive stations while I get my gas
> at the least expensive I can find using Gas Buddy.
>
> I'd like to weekly (or so) transfer about 15 gallons (or so) from my tank
> to hers in my garage (or just outside the garage).
>
> Any suggestions for a good pump for gasoline?
Do the math- unless she is going to a station that caters to seniors
and is still full-serve, the hi-lo split is seldom more than ten cents
per gallon. How far out of your way do you go to get to the cheap
station? How far would she have to go, compared to the streets she
usually drives? It costs about 30 cents a mile to drive a car. What is
your time worth? If her buying the fancy stuff bugs you that much, get
up early on Sat, and take her car down to the corner and fill it
yourself. Modern cars usually have anti-siphon flaps in the filler neck,
so unless you buy a farmer-style transfer pump, there is no cheap way to
do what you want to do.
If that is the most extravagant/annoying thing she does, count your
blessings. Remember, most women prefer going to 'nice' places, even gas
stations. She may simply find the cheap place to be nasty.
--
aem sends...
aemeijers
Back in mechanical fuel pump days, lotsa sheriff and state cop cars in
Indiana had a setup like that, for helping stranded motorists out in the
boonies. A tee, a valve, and about ten feet of fuel line coiled up on
the fender liner. (First seen when I was a little kid wandering by the
gas station, and a state cop was filling up and looking under the hood.
Of course I went and looked, and the cop indulged my curiosity.)
--
aem sends...
The Daring Dufas
Nope, it actually pumped fuel from the patrol car's tank. I could
research it or find a crusty old trooper and ask him. The brain
cells carrying that memory could be rusty and leaking.
TDD
The Daring Dufas
Yep, The Alabama State Troopers did it too back in the early 70's during
the Arab oil embargo.
TDD
JIMMIE
> My wife always fills up at the most expensive stations while I get my gas
> at the least expensive I can find using Gas Buddy.
>
> I'd like to weekly (or so) transfer about 15 gallons (or so) from my tank
> to hers in my garage (or just outside the garage).
>
> Any suggestions for a good pump for gasoline?
My wife is just as bad in the opposite way. She drives 16 miles round
trip to save $0.15/gal. She drives a Chey pickup with a 350
Jimmie
cl...@snyder.on.ca
<bramme...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:27:01 -0500, Van Chocstraw wrote:
>
>>> Any suggestions for a good pump for gasoline?
>>
>> You already have a fuel pump in your tank. Tap the fuel rail on the
>> engine. There is usually a drain tap there.
>
>There's a "drain" tap on the fuel injection rail? (or are you joking?)
>
>If you're not joking, I'll have to look.
>
>If a fuel rail tap exists, maybe it's threaded for nice secure connections.
Not all cars have them,ut they are a Schrader valve, like a tire
valve, for connecting a pressure guage for diagnostics. Be slow
pumping, and the car would need to be running as the pump only runs
for about 3 seconds with the car not running.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
<boobooil...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>On 01/07/2010 10:27 AM, William Brammer wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:27:01 -0500, Van Chocstraw wrote:
>>
>>>> Any suggestions for a good pump for gasoline?
>>>
>>> You already have a fuel pump in your tank. Tap the fuel rail on the
>>> engine. There is usually a drain tap there.
>>
>> There's a "drain" tap on the fuel injection rail? (or are you joking?)
>>
>> If you're not joking, I'll have to look.
>>
>> If a fuel rail tap exists, maybe it's threaded for nice secure connections.
>
>Depends on the make and model. If there isn't it's not a big job to put
>a union and tap valve there. Fuel constantly circulates from and to the
>tank around the rail. It's a good place to tap off.
He didn't say what kind of car HE drives. If it's a late model
chrysler (neon/2000 ijn particular) and many other models, there in no
longer a fuel return and the pressure regulation is done in the pump,
which is in the tank.
Many vehicles do not have a test point that can be reached and tapped,
if they have one at all.
Ed Pawlowski
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 10:46:10 GMT, Joe wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't it be easier just to switch the station at which you fill
>> up? (or to take her car to put some less expensive gas in it)
>
> I switch stations all the time but my wife does not. I work near
> Costco which is only about $2.90 a gallon nowadays while the gas
> stations she goes to are $3.10 or so.
>
> found a workable solution.
Yes, I have a simple solution. I don't fret about $3 a week. Frugality is
smart, but there are times the stress would outweigh the savings. Look at
the potential loss with a mishap, your time to do the swap and your time for
the extra fill-up you have to do now instead of your wife. Find a better
way to economize.
Smitty Two
William Brammer <bramme...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 10:46:10 GMT, Joe wrote:
>
> > Wouldn't it be easier just to switch the station at which you fill
> > up? (or to take her car to put some less expensive gas in it)
>
> I switch stations all the time but my wife does not. I work near Costco
> which is only about $2.90 a gallon nowadays while the gas stations she goes
> to are $3.10 or so. We live very far (20- miles) from the nearest gas
> station. She would love it if the "gas tank just filled itself".
>
> She grew up in the only state in the USA that has true self serve (where
> you stay in the car the whole time) and she hates those "cash only"
> stations that make you wait in line at the checkout twice just to fill up.
> So she goes to the expensive fill up stations which are more convenient and
> closer to where she shops.
>
> Of course as you suggested, I could just go out at 6am or 11pm and simply
> take her car out for gas, it would be much less work to just fill up her
> car from a tank at home.
>
> I considered buying a 500 gallon gasoline tank but then I learned that gas
> goes stale so that would only be useful for commercial establishments.
>
> Anyway, there must be someone else with a similar problem that has found a
> workable solution.
A change in perspective will make the "problem" disappear. Look at it
this way: Gas costs 3.10. You, however, are a member of an exclusive
club, and because of your regular driving route, get to take advantage
of their very nice savings, and purchase it at 2.90.
She isn't spending too much. You're spending too little. All together,
you and your wife are beating the system by 0.10 per gallon. Be happy,
and go think about something more important.
FatterDumber& Happier Moe
> Any suggestion on a good gasoline pump to move gas from one vehicle to
> another in a garage?
>
> at the least expensive I can find using Gas Buddy.
>
> I'd like to weekly (or so) transfer about 15 gallons (or so) from my tank
> to hers in my garage (or just outside the garage).
>
I'd be getting in contract with Dr. Phil on this one. Either he will
have you buying more expensive gas, or the wife will be buying cheaper
gas. Shouldn't take more than a few years of therapy.
Plumber Bob
<"WheresMyCheck"@UncleSamLoves.Mee> wrote:
> I'd be getting in contract with Dr. Phil on this one.
Or Susie Orman!
She'd say you've got 15 gallons a week times 20 cents savings per
gallon times 50 weeks in a year times 30 years in your marriage =
$4,500 over the life of your marriage.
Back to Dr. Phil, he'd note that it's 10 minutes per week times 50
weeks times 30 years which is 250 hours spent improving your marriage.
You only can decide if the 250 minutes improving your marriage are
worth the $4,500 you save doing it!
Heron McKeister
> Next.
$ Let it slide, my friend, let it slide.
Of course you could just as easily do as you suggest ...
$ It's really not worth getting
$ all lathered up over something so trivial as a missed joke.
... but you instead choose to immediately follow-up with
pretense, condescention and an intentional pejorative
mischaracterization. Btw, ever notice how those least
astute and capable are coincidently also often those
most prone to the unrelenting offering of unsolicited
advice? I have.
$ You've made valid points regarding relay terminals and nylon quick
$ disconnect inserts and the gallons per hour delivered by a specific
$ Bosch pump.
$ We get it...you know what you're talking about.
Thanx and all, however I neither desire nor require
the validations of others. That I know what I'm
talking about could hardly be more obvious, and
it isn't limited to simply technical subjects. But just
who is this "we" you so presumptively speak for?
$ I'll tell you what. The next time I respond in a thread that you are
$ participating in, I'll be sure to use ;-) and :-o and :-( etc. so
$ that you'll be able to determine whether I was trying to be humorous
$ or not. I certainly wouldn't want you to miss the chance to chuckle at
$ my jocularity.
While your alleged attempt at humor, as already established,
failed miserably (for which you, not I, must accept full
responsibility), your continuing affectations in this same vein
are however convincing that you're somewhat of a clown.
--
"... but I don't mean that in a bad way." - Dom Irrera
Ashton Crusher
<bramme...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 10:46:10 GMT, Joe wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't it be easier just to switch the station at which you fill
>> up? (or to take her car to put some less expensive gas in it)
>
>I switch stations all the time but my wife does not. I work near Costco
>which is only about $2.90 a gallon nowadays while the gas stations she goes
>to are $3.10 or so. We live very far (20- miles) from the nearest gas
>station. She would love it if the "gas tank just filled itself".
>
>She grew up in the only state in the USA that has true self serve (where
>you stay in the car the whole time) and she hates those "cash only"
>stations that make you wait in line at the checkout twice just to fill up.
>So she goes to the expensive fill up stations which are more convenient and
>closer to where she shops.
>
>Of course as you suggested, I could just go out at 6am or 11pm and simply
>take her car out for gas, it would be much less work to just fill up her
>car from a tank at home.
>
>I considered buying a 500 gallon gasoline tank but then I learned that gas
>goes stale so that would only be useful for commercial establishments.
>
>Anyway, there must be someone else with a similar problem that has found a
>workable solution.
>
>
You are going to go thru all that trouble to save $200 a year?? You
save $0.20 per gallon. If you swap 20 gallons a week that's $4 a
week, X 52 weeks a year = $208. Seems dumb to me.
DerbyDad03
Where ya been? The collective "we" missed ya.
re: "While your alleged attempt at humor, as already established,
failed miserably..."
It could only be a miserably failed attempt at humor iff it *was* an
attempt at humor, therefore there is nothing alleged.
If you feel that it failed miserably, then at least you and I finally
agree that my post was an attempt at humor and not offered as a
serious alternative to the jumpering of pins 3 & 5 of the fuel relay
socket. That's good. Agreement on specific issues is a positive step
forward in our relationship.
re: ...for which you (meaning me), not I (meaning you), must accept
full responsibility...
OK, we've made some progress on the "agreement" front, but there's
still some lack of communication between us. It would please me if we
could work on that a bit. Let's get started...
As I'm sure you know, barriers to communication can be many and
varied. However, I think this one should be simple to remove. Just
back up a few posts, maybe in the range of 25 - 30, and you'll see
where I very clearly stated that my comments were of a facetious
nature. I do believe I *have* taken full responsibility for my
actions. I couldn't look myself in the mirror if I didn't.
But we're past that right? Let's recap:
1 - I said I was being facetious.
2 - You doubted my word. (ouch!)
3 - I commented that there was nothing I could say or do change your
mind.
4 - Something changed your mind since you now appear to be somewhat
open to that fact that I made an attempt at humor. (otherwise, what
could it be that "failed miserably"?)
I do think we've made some real progress here.
re: "...you're somewhat of a clown"
Now ya see how easy this is? Clowns, well, most types of clowns
anyway, were put on this earth make people laugh. By posting humorous
(or apparently humorless) comments, I'm just trying to do my part.
Is that Judy Collins I hear in the background?
Red Green
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Had one of those with a Holly 4bbl. It could suck up black holes.