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ShadowTek

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Aug 15, 2009, 10:57:51 PM8/15/09
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Has you ever became ill after using a line-trimmer?

The last two times that I've trimmed growth that was as tall I was, I
ended up inadvertently inhaling some of the pulverized debris, and each
night after that, I've ended up with a brief upper-respiratory
infection.

I figured is was the inhalation of mold or fungus that caused it.

I was just curious if this could be a common thing when line-trimming massive
amounts of vegetation.

Either way, I'm going to have to start remembering to use dust-mask from
now on.

Big Bob

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Aug 15, 2009, 11:38:53 PM8/15/09
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Why do you let it get so tall?

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ShadowTek

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Aug 16, 2009, 12:17:37 AM8/16/09
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On 2009-08-16, Big Bob <b...@l.net> wrote:
> Why do you let it get so tall?

It's a temporary residence. It's only serviced a few times a year.

scorpionleather

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Aug 16, 2009, 12:55:47 AM8/16/09
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Not so much from string trimming, but when I use the lawnmower it kicks up a
lot of dust and then for the next couple days I sneeze a lot. Or when I do
other landscaping projects that raise the vegetation dust I get what feels
like upper respiratory allergies. So I wonder if you are also having a kind
of allergic reaction. I take Claritin (over the counter) and that helps a
little.

ransley

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Aug 16, 2009, 1:09:29 AM8/16/09
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Wear a dust mask.

Rudy

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Aug 16, 2009, 1:13:42 AM8/16/09
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Generic: Loratidine 10 Mg 30/$4.00 at WalMart
>


Tony Hwang

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Aug 16, 2009, 1:34:11 AM8/16/09
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Hi,
Sounds like you are allergic to some things and do not have a good
immune strength. Too much histamine in your body can make you sick.

ShadowTek

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Aug 16, 2009, 2:41:18 AM8/16/09
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On 2009-08-16, Tony Hwang <drag...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi,
> Sounds like you are allergic to some things and do not have a good
> immune strength. Too much histamine in your body can make you sick.

That statement seems to contradict itself. If I *don't* have a strong
immune system, then my histamine response should be weak. If my histamine
response was too *strong*, then that would be a manifestation of an
allergic reaction, an *overactive* immune system.

Anyway, the symptoms took at least 6 hours to reach its peak, long after
the job was done, and the only thing that seems like a reasonable
explanation to me is that mold/fungus had infested my upper respiratory
tract, and my immune system reacted swiftly and dealt with the
intrusion.

If it were simply an allergic reaction, I would think that the symptoms
would have developed far more rapidly, and then resolved in a similar
fashion.

ShadowTek

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Aug 16, 2009, 2:46:10 AM8/16/09
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Mowers never bother me, even the dustiest of conditions.
They simply cut and throw the vegetation, whereas my 4-cycle
trimmer does a good job of pulverizing everything into a fine mist.

scorpionleather

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Aug 16, 2009, 4:11:51 AM8/16/09
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"ShadowTek" <Shad...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> Anyway, the symptoms took at least 6 hours to reach its peak, long after
> the job was done, and the only thing that seems like a reasonable
> explanation to me is that mold/fungus had infested my upper respiratory
> tract, and my immune system reacted swiftly and dealt with the
> intrusion.
>
> If it were simply an allergic reaction, I would think that the symptoms
> would have developed far more rapidly, and then resolved in a similar
> fashion.

What were your symptoms? Earlier you wrote it was an upper respiratory
infection, but infection is more like a diagnosis, not a symptom. For
example, hard to breathe, pain anywhere, sneezing, stuffy head, sore throat
etc.? When I get the allergies from dust kicked up while pulverizing
vegetation, my symptoms are a stuffy head, lots of sneezing, and my voice
changes. It feels very similar to a cold.

aemeijers

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Aug 16, 2009, 8:06:08 AM8/16/09
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Doing much of anything to the green stuff outside bothers me. (Why did I
buy a house again?) Not just breathing in the dust/pollen/whatever, but
even skin contact. It does seem to bother me less in hot muggy weather,
when I am sweating enough to block easy entry to the skin pores, I
guess. Or maybe the pollen is just at a low point by then, I dunno.

Anyway, a dust mask and safety glasses to keep stuff from spraying right
into your eyes may help. I always jump right into a long shower right
after working outside, that seems to minimize the symptoms.

What I really need is a steady supply of teenage kids that work cheap,
but there do not seem to be any of those around here. And I'm too cheap
to pay the $50+ for a lawn service. (That is the old fellow in a beat up
pickup- the guys in the shiny trucks start at twice that.) But if you
are bothered that bad, it may be worth it to you to make arrangements
with somebody in the area to at least do a rough-cut a few times a
summer, or even just as needed when you call them a couple days before
you arrive.

Your 'temporary house' must be in an isolated area. Around here, even in
this barely-governed rural township, once weeds and such get over knee
high, and any neighbors or passers-by can see them and complain, they
mow it and bill you.

--
aem sends...

Tom G

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Aug 16, 2009, 9:11:11 AM8/16/09
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"ShadowTek" <Shad...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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In Arizona, they make contractors wet down areas when disturbing the soil
because of a fungus or something that is native to the SW that when airborne
can infect people with a illness that I think has flu like symptoms. They
quit housing apes at the Phoenix zoo as they kept getting this disease
called Valley Fever and dying. I have a spot on my lung that they diagnosed
as being leftover from experiencing Valley Fever at some time. I probably
just thought that I had the flu. For what it's worth....


Tom G.


Tony Hwang

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Aug 16, 2009, 10:24:33 AM8/16/09
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Hi,
Histamine is a result of your immune system not knowing what the
allergen is(i.e. does not know how to take care of it). Maybe you have a
genetic weakness in your bronchial passage. Knowing genetic weakness is
very important for a person. I know mine.

SteveB

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Aug 16, 2009, 10:57:22 AM8/16/09
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"Big Bob" <b...@l.net> wrote in message
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> Why do you let it get so tall?

Why can't you answer a simple question?


George

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Aug 16, 2009, 11:15:24 AM8/16/09
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It is a good answer. If the OP didn't let it get so tall there would be
significantly less stuff blasted all over. So one possible remedy might
be to have someone else attend to it when they aren't there.

Michael B

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Aug 16, 2009, 11:32:58 AM8/16/09
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On Aug 16, 9:11 am, "Tom G" <toma...@nospamverizon.net> wrote:

> In Arizona, they make contractors wet down areas when disturbing the soil
> because of a fungus or something that is native to the SW that when airborne
> can infect people with a illness that I think has flu like symptoms.

Valley Fever symptoms take 1-4 weeks to appear, the OP had
almost immediate symptoms.

Michael B

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Aug 16, 2009, 11:36:51 AM8/16/09
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On Aug 16, 10:24 am, Tony Hwang <drago...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Histamine is a result of your immune system not knowing what the
> allergen is(i.e. does not know how to take care of it). Maybe you have a
> genetic weakness in your bronchial passage. Knowing genetic weakness is
> very important for a person. I know mine.

Now, please tell me how you KNOW that there is not a genetic
weakness in your bronchial passage, or anywhere else for that
matter.
Or am I saying this to someone that "regulars" already know to
be a nutcase?

JIMMIE

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Aug 16, 2009, 11:47:05 AM8/16/09
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It could be allergies, toxic plants, fumes from the trimmer. I got
sick enough to have to go to the emergency room a few years ago after
trimming a lot of Azaleas I did not know the sap from them was
poisonous.

Jimmie

Tony Hwang

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Aug 16, 2009, 12:09:25 PM8/16/09
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Hi,
Family history? Chronic problem? Always same part of your body bothers
you? As far as I know we all have certain weakness. Have ever seen
anything PERFECT in this world?

SteveB

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Aug 16, 2009, 12:13:16 PM8/16/09
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"George" <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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Well, the blame has certainly been established. Now let's get on to the
good part, the guilt.

I saw nothing in the way of positive statements that said the same thing or
offered suggestions: You could mow it more often; you could apply
herbicide; etc, etc, etc.

When you insert why into an answer, it loses any credibility.

Maybe the OP is disabled, like myself. Maybe he's working all the time to
keep up with the Obamas. Maybe he's spread thin with all his
responsibilities.

If you want to see a good answer, look at mine.

Steve


SteveB

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Aug 16, 2009, 12:18:28 PM8/16/09
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> Has you ever became ill after using a line-trimmer?
>
> The last two times that I've trimmed growth that was as tall I was, I
> ended up inadvertently inhaling some of the pulverized debris, and each
> night after that, I've ended up with a brief upper-respiratory
> infection.
>
> I figured is was the inhalation of mold or fungus that caused it.
>
> I was just curious if this could be a common thing when line-trimming
> massive
> amounts of vegetation.
>
> Either way, I'm going to have to start remembering to use dust-mask from
> now on.

Some solutions: Don't let it get so high. Wet it down to keep the dust
down when you are in there. Go buy a $25 respirator with changeable
cartridges and know that you're not taking that stuff in. All that dust
can't be good for you, no matter what is in there. And there is some rodent
and insect particles in there that can downright kill you. Hantavirus.
Valley fever, and a dozen other things.

I used to drive forklift at the Las Vegas Convention Center. For years,
we'd get a gift show where people from all over the world would exhibit.
Called ASD/AMD. I would always get sick after that show, from what I
believed was inhaling particles off the merchandise and crates that were
made in dirt shops all over the world, then transported as general cargo.

I wear a dust mask when I just do my weed eater. Well, not a dust mask, but
a two cartridge respirator.

I'm worth it, and so are you.


willshak

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Aug 16, 2009, 1:00:01 PM8/16/09
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on 8/15/2009 10:57 PM (ET) ShadowTek wrote the following:
> Has you ever became ill after using a line-trimmer?
>


Yes. I got dizzy and I started to see double. It got so bad I had to
stop drinking beer. :-)


--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
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ShadowTek

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Aug 16, 2009, 1:18:09 PM8/16/09
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On 2009-08-16, aemeijers <aeme...@att.net> wrote:

> Doing much of anything to the green stuff outside bothers me. (Why did I
> buy a house again?) Not just breathing in the dust/pollen/whatever, but
> even skin contact. It does seem to bother me less in hot muggy weather,
> when I am sweating enough to block easy entry to the skin pores, I
> guess. Or maybe the pollen is just at a low point by then, I dunno.
>
> Anyway, a dust mask and safety glasses to keep stuff from spraying right
> into your eyes may help. I always jump right into a long shower right
> after working outside, that seems to minimize the symptoms.

Oh I never use a trimmer without safety glasses. I never use a mower
without em either.

The biggest irratation to me in the summer is chiggers.

Personal bug spray helps, but I always take a very thorough shower after
I've been outdoors for any length of time. I can't stand itchy chigger
bites.

> What I really need is a steady supply of teenage kids that work cheap,
> but there do not seem to be any of those around here. And I'm too cheap
> to pay the $50+ for a lawn service. (That is the old fellow in a beat up
> pickup- the guys in the shiny trucks start at twice that.) But if you
> are bothered that bad, it may be worth it to you to make arrangements
> with somebody in the area to at least do a rough-cut a few times a
> summer, or even just as needed when you call them a couple days before
> you arrive.
>
> Your 'temporary house' must be in an isolated area. Around here, even in
> this barely-governed rural township, once weeds and such get over knee
> high, and any neighbors or passers-by can see them and complain, they
> mow it and bill you.

Yes, a 4-wheel-drive vehicle is required to reach the location on all
but the dryest of days, which
makes it difficult to find people willing to do any sort of work on that
property, inside or out.

ShadowTek

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Aug 16, 2009, 1:32:37 PM8/16/09
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On 2009-08-16, scorpionleather <scorpio...@ge.com> wrote:

> What were your symptoms?

Within an hour or so, there was noticeable itchiness in the throat. That
symptom I could simply attribute to an allergy, so it may or may not be
coincidental to the later symptoms.

Maybe six hours later, after I had returned home had a long
shower, my throat would start swelling, my head would start swimming,
mucus production in the upper respiratory area would increase, and light
coughing would start.

It generally felt like I had a cold, and it lasted throughout the next
day.

I have been suggesting that it was probably mold/fungus because I have
recently experience a very similar reaction after having inspected a
mold-filled house that had suffered from water damage. As in that
instance, the symptoms came on later that night, lasted for about a day,
and felt just like having a brief cold.

One thing that I was lacking from your description was sneezing. In none
of the previously mentioned instances did I experience any sneezing.

ShadowTek

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Aug 16, 2009, 1:38:17 PM8/16/09
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On 2009-08-16, Tom G <tom...@nospamverizon.net> wrote:

> In Arizona, they make contractors wet down areas when disturbing the soil
> because of a fungus or something that is native to the SW that when airborne
> can infect people with a illness that I think has flu like symptoms. They
> quit housing apes at the Phoenix zoo as they kept getting this disease
> called Valley Fever and dying. I have a spot on my lung that they diagnosed
> as being leftover from experiencing Valley Fever at some time. I probably
> just thought that I had the flu. For what it's worth....

It's usually pretty humid around here in the summer, so it helps to keep
the dust down, but last summer was very dry, and I noticed that mowing
over patches of bare earth would often produce a large plume of dust. I
*really* didn't like having to mow over areas littered with dried-out
dog crap during such dry days.

In the West, I could easily imagine that it would be big concern.

Kurt Ullman

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Aug 16, 2009, 1:40:22 PM8/16/09
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In article <slrnh8ggm1.7...@desktop.localdomain>,
ShadowTek <Shad...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Maybe six hours later, after I had returned home had a long
> shower, my throat would start swelling, my head would start swimming,
> mucus production in the upper respiratory area would increase, and light
> coughing would start.

NOrmal allergic reaction. This is the late phase response. If you are
interested in all the gory details, I would suggest:
http://microvet.arizona.edu/Courses/MIC419/Tutorials/allergy.html

> One thing that I was lacking from your description was sneezing. In none
> of the previously mentioned instances did I experience any sneezing.

Sneezing is a response by cells in the nasal passages to expel nasty
stuff. If the nasty stuff is small enough, you won't get sneezing.

--
Searching is half the fun: life is much more manageable when thought
of as a scavenger hunt as opposed to a surprise party.
Jimmy Buffett

ShadowTek

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Aug 16, 2009, 1:49:26 PM8/16/09
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On 2009-08-16, JIMMIE <JIMMIE...@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> It could be allergies, toxic plants, fumes from the trimmer. I got
> sick enough to have to go to the emergency room a few years ago after
> trimming a lot of Azaleas I did not know the sap from them was
> poisonous.

I *was* bustin up a lot of pokeweed, and I know they're toxic.

It could have been that, but I figured that the reaction would have been
more immediate it that was the case.

How rapidly did you get sick after trimming those Azaleas?

ShadowTek

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Aug 16, 2009, 1:57:35 PM8/16/09
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On 2009-08-16, SteveB <old...@depends.com> wrote:

> Some solutions: Don't let it get so high.

You keep harping on this as if I have claimed that *I* am the owner of
this property, which I am *not*.

I posted about this issue because I am interested in understanding the
realationship between line-trimmer-use and disease.


> I wear a dust mask when I just do my weed eater. Well, not a dust mask,
> but a two cartridge respirator.

I also have a 2-cartridge respirator, and I'll use it if a dust mask
ends up being insufficient.


Michael B

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Aug 16, 2009, 2:10:16 PM8/16/09
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At this time of the year, all portions of the pokeweed are toxic.
Toxic material is highest at the rootstock, where you would be
cutting. And on a humid day, if you wipe your face, or the toxic
material gets to your eyes or by way of the typical cuts and
abrasions on your body, you can get into trouble without showing
respiratory symptoms.

ShadowTek

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Aug 16, 2009, 2:15:01 PM8/16/09
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On 2009-08-16, Kurt Ullman <kurtu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnh8ggm1.7...@desktop.localdomain>,
> ShadowTek <Shad...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Maybe six hours later, after I had returned home had a long
>> shower, my throat would start swelling, my head would start swimming,
>> mucus production in the upper respiratory area would increase, and light
>> coughing would start.
> NOrmal allergic reaction. This is the late phase response. If you are
> interested in all the gory details, I would suggest:
> http://microvet.arizona.edu/Courses/MIC419/Tutorials/allergy.html
>
>> One thing that I was lacking from your description was sneezing. In none
>> of the previously mentioned instances did I experience any sneezing.
> Sneezing is a response by cells in the nasal passages to expel nasty
> stuff. If the nasty stuff is small enough, you won't get sneezing.

If it's normal to experience an allergic reaction that lasts for more
than a day, then I guess that's all it was. I've just never
before experienced a exposure-reaction like that which came on so late and
lasted for so long, other than that moldly house incident.

scorpionleather

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Aug 16, 2009, 3:01:25 PM8/16/09
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"ShadowTek" <Shad...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> If it's normal to experience an allergic reaction that lasts for more
> than a day, then I guess that's all it was. I've just never
> before experienced a exposure-reaction like that which came on so late and
> lasted for so long, other than that moldly house incident.

When the garden work triggers my head allergy it usually starts a few hours
after exposure to the dust/vegetation and lasts for a couple days after
that.

The interesting thing is that otherwise, I have no allergies whatsoever.
It's only when the garden dust is kicked up when I get these head cold
symptoms. I guess all these microscopic pollen and creatures and whatever
else I don't even want to imagine it could be, is entering my nose and my
immune system is treating these things as foreign invaders. It makes sense
because who knows what kind of nasty toxic things exist in that
dust/vegetation cloud that I'm creating with the garden tools. I should
probably wear a mask more often.

SteveB

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Aug 16, 2009, 3:18:04 PM8/16/09
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"ShadowTek" <Shad...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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I did not harp on this. It was the first time I brought it up, and it was a
suggestion, and not a "why" question, as it you had intent.

This thread has now been so convoluted, I can't tell if you are the OP or
just a contributor. I have more comments, but some are for the OP, and some
are for the PG. (peanut gallery)

Steve


E Z Peaces

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Aug 16, 2009, 4:27:47 PM8/16/09
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I get delayed symptoms something like that sometimes when I trim my
hedge with hand tools and it's covered with pollen and sometimes when I
crack and eat pecans from my yard.

I don't know if my occasional delayed reaction to pecans comes from
microbes or a natural preservative within the nutshell. If I want to be
safe, I rinse the shelled nuts and heat them in the microwave. They
taste better that way, anyway.

One might think that if ever there was a plant one should not pulverize
with a string trimmer, it's poison ivy. I've done it routinely for
decades with never a rash. I have had severe poison-ivy rashes that had
nothing to do with string trimming. I suppose string trimming is
relatively safe because what it throws tends to stay low.

I suppose you got a dose of pollen. Cheap antihistamine pills might help.

ShadowTek

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Aug 16, 2009, 8:38:14 PM8/16/09
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On 2009-08-16, SteveB <old...@depends.com> wrote:

> I did not harp on this. It was the first time I brought it up, and it was a
> suggestion, and not a "why" question, as it you had intent.

Oh, sorry, my eyes must have wandered when I read the name of someone
that *you* responded to earlier in the thread.

I thought it was the same
guy posting the same thing again.

ShadowTek

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Aug 16, 2009, 8:43:51 PM8/16/09
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On 2009-08-16, E Z Peaces <ca...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> One might think that if ever there was a plant one should not pulverize
> with a string trimmer, it's poison ivy. I've done it routinely for
> decades with never a rash. I have had severe poison-ivy rashes that had
> nothing to do with string trimming.

Actually, I seem to be immune to poison ivy, as I can rip that stuff out
all day long with my bare hands and never be bothered by it.


> I suppose string trimming is
> relatively safe because what it throws tends to stay low.

I never have a problem whn trimming stuff that's low, I was just posting in
reference to cutting through stuff that's at least at tall as you are.

E Z Peaces

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Aug 16, 2009, 9:33:38 PM8/16/09
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Wouldn't the pulverization have been low? But it wouldn't take much
shaking to release pollen at face level.

JIMMIE

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Aug 16, 2009, 10:33:52 PM8/16/09
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On Aug 16, 1:49 pm, ShadowTek <Shadow...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

It didnt take long, I accidentally ingested some of the sap. I scraped
my knuckle and sucked on it not thinking about my hands being coated
in the sap.

Jimmie

ShadowTek

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Aug 17, 2009, 12:57:26 AM8/17/09
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On 2009-08-17, E Z Peaces <ca...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> ShadowTek wrote:
>
>> I never have a problem whn trimming stuff that's low, I was just posting in
>> reference to cutting through stuff that's at least at tall as you are.
>>
> Wouldn't the pulverization have been low? But it wouldn't take much
> shaking to release pollen at face level.

I don't just cut things at the base, since the top part of the plant
will then drop all at once and tangle up the line. I start from the top
and work my way down.

aemeijers

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Aug 17, 2009, 6:16:09 AM8/17/09
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Sounds like that is part of your problem. Might I suggest going retro,
and getting yourself a scythe or sickle to keep up there, and doing the
initial clearing by hand? Chop it low, and use a pitchfork and scoop
shovel like giant salad tongs, to gather it up?

--
aem sends...

E Z Peaces

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Aug 17, 2009, 7:17:17 AM8/17/09
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I can't imagine having the line on a string trimmer tangle up. In
waist-high grass, I'll make my first pass high because the mass of
resilient vegetation down low would bog down a string trimmer.

I wouldn't attempt head-high stuff with string because I'd expect some
weeds that tall to be tough enough to cause splitting in the .090 line I
use.

For stuff that tall I have a disk with 3 replaceable nylon blades a
little like propellers for model airplanes. They'll cut anything short
of wood. Nothing bogs them down. The trimmer is more controllable than
with string because cutting doesn't cause a pull. My clothes stay
neater because they don't throw debris as much as string. Presumably
they would throw less pollen into the air than would string.

SteveB

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Aug 17, 2009, 10:27:08 AM8/17/09
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"ShadowTek" <Shad...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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Then, I take it that you are NOT the person who originally wrote in for
advice on how to handle the dust when trimming high weeds. Am I correct?

Steve


ShadowTek

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Aug 17, 2009, 1:47:27 PM8/17/09
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On 2009-08-17, aemeijers <aeme...@att.net> wrote:
> Sounds like that is part of your problem. Might I suggest going retro,
> and getting yourself a scythe or sickle to keep up there, and doing the
> initial clearing by hand? Chop it low, and use a pitchfork and scoop
> shovel like giant salad tongs, to gather it up?

I *did* have a machete with me on these recent trips, but with a blade
that short, you have to do a lot of bending over to reach things.

I'm thinking about getting one of those brush blades next time I'm at
HomeDepot.

I don't think they carry scythes.

ShadowTek

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Aug 17, 2009, 1:55:23 PM8/17/09
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On 2009-08-17, E Z Peaces <ca...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> I can't imagine having the line on a string trimmer tangle up. In
> waist-high grass, I'll make my first pass high because the mass of
> resilient vegetation down low would bog down a string trimmer.

I'm wasn't really cutting "grass", more like large stalky weeds.


> I wouldn't attempt head-high stuff with string because I'd expect some
> weeds that tall to be tough enough to cause splitting in the .090 line I
> use.
>
> For stuff that tall I have a disk with 3 replaceable nylon blades a
> little like propellers for model airplanes. They'll cut anything short
> of wood. Nothing bogs them down. The trimmer is more controllable than
> with string because cutting doesn't cause a pull. My clothes stay
> neater because they don't throw debris as much as string. Presumably
> they would throw less pollen into the air than would string.

I saw those things in a catalog and wondered about their performance.

I guess I should get some and keep them for over-grown jobs like that.

ShadowTek

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Aug 17, 2009, 2:08:51 PM8/17/09
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On 2009-08-17, SteveB <old...@depends.com> wrote:

> Then, I take it that you are NOT the person who originally wrote in for
> advice on how to handle the dust when trimming high weeds. Am I correct?

I've never used Outlook, but it sounds like you would be better off with
a different client if it doesn't provide yout with the
ability to easily go back and see for yourself.

Anyway, I *am* this thread's OP, but I wasn't asking for advice on how to
handle dust. I was just curious to know if the experiance that I had was
at all common.

aemeijers

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Aug 17, 2009, 6:41:28 PM8/17/09
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I'm probably remembering the names wrong. Kinda like Death carries in
all the cartoons, but with a curving handle to save your back. I've even
seen them with arms sticking out of the handle, to catch the tall stuff
as you cut it, so you can continue the swinging motion, and move it all
behind you as you go. Like the things they used to have chain gangs use
to clear weeds in road ditches.

I agree about machetes. They look cool in old movies, but in real life,
after ten minutes, you are sore all over. (Unless that is what you do
for a living every day, of course.)

A farm store may have better selection of tools like that than HD or
Lowes. Leastways the handles will probably be longer.

(Googles). Didn't find scythes, but several places had the golf-club
looking things I used as a kid, with the long razor-sharp blade sticking
out. Handles are always absurdly short on those for some reason- only
40" or so. I suppose you could always fit a longer handle. Here is an
example.
http://www.tractorsupply.com/lawn-garden/lawn-tools-garden-tools/garden-hoes-mattocks/long-handled-grass-trimmer-4429395

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Bob F

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Aug 18, 2009, 1:15:32 AM8/18/09
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ShadowTek wrote:
> Has you ever became ill after using a line-trimmer?
>
> The last two times that I've trimmed growth that was as tall I was, I
> ended up inadvertently inhaling some of the pulverized debris, and
> each night after that, I've ended up with a brief upper-respiratory
> infection.
>
> I figured is was the inhalation of mold or fungus that caused it.
>
> I was just curious if this could be a common thing when line-trimming
> massive amounts of vegetation.
>
> Either way, I'm going to have to start remembering to use dust-mask
> from
> now on.

My former neighbor used to wear a respirator when mowing the lawn due to allergy
problems.

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Eric

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Aug 18, 2009, 7:51:44 AM8/18/09
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"aemeijers" <aeme...@att.net> wrote in message
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Can I throw in a short rant here? I recently bought a grass trimmer very similar to the one in the
photo you linked. Why the f**** do all the ones available now seem to have serrated blades? They
don't cut very well when they're new (because of poor build quality) and you can't sharpen them!
When I was a kid we had one with a regular blade, it cut well and when it didn't you could easily
sharpen it.

I suppose with a grinder and enough time, you could modify it from a serrated to a regular blade...

Eric Law


E Z Peaces

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Aug 18, 2009, 11:42:59 AM8/18/09
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Eric wrote:

>> (Googles). Didn't find scythes, but several places had the golf-club looking things I used as a
>> kid, with the long razor-sharp blade sticking out. Handles are always absurdly short on those for
>> some reason- only 40" or so. I suppose you could always fit a longer handle. Here is an example.
>> http://www.tractorsupply.com/lawn-garden/lawn-tools-garden-tools/garden-hoes-mattocks/long-handled-grass-trimmer-4429395
>
> Can I throw in a short rant here? I recently bought a grass trimmer very similar to the one in the
> photo you linked. Why the f**** do all the ones available now seem to have serrated blades? They
> don't cut very well when they're new (because of poor build quality) and you can't sharpen them!
> When I was a kid we had one with a regular blade, it cut well and when it didn't you could easily
> sharpen it.
>
> I suppose with a grinder and enough time, you could modify it from a serrated to a regular blade...
>
> Eric Law
>
>

A serrated edge is supposed to work more efficiently on a grass whip.
The standard method is to clamp the blade in a vise and file the bevel.
I once tried that with a rusty one I found in a shed. It still
wouldn't cut.

I've read that buyers of name-brand whips experience the same
frustration because they come with lacquer on the edge. One buyer was
very pleased with his whip after cleaning the edge with a 3/16" hone in
a dremel tool.

Jon Danniken

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Aug 18, 2009, 10:30:40 PM8/18/09
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scorpionleather wrote:
> Not so much from string trimming, but when I use the lawnmower it
> kicks up a lot of dust and then for the next couple days I sneeze a
> lot. Or when I do other landscaping projects that raise the
> vegetation dust I get what feels like upper respiratory allergies. So I
> wonder if you are also having a kind of allergic reaction. I
> take Claritin (over the counter) and that helps a little.

I just this year started wearing a particle mask when I mow the lawn in the
summer. Makes a BIG difference in the way I feel afterwards, along the
lines of the effect you get the first time you wear hearing protection while
mowing.

Jon


aemeijers

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Aug 18, 2009, 10:58:01 PM8/18/09
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Wish I'd worn hearing protection mowing lawns as a kid, and on the
construction sites during my teenage years. I might have a little more
of my hearing left. I was never into rock'n'roll concerts and never had
a high-power stereo, so those are the only damaging exposures I had. But
other than the jackhammer guys, nobody wore them back then. I wear muffs
using any power equipment now, funny looks from the neighbors be damned.
I want to hold on to what little hearing I have left.

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ShadowTek

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Aug 19, 2009, 12:45:06 AM8/19/09
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On 2009-08-19, aemeijers <aeme...@att.net> wrote:
>
> Wish I'd worn hearing protection mowing lawns as a kid, and on the
> construction sites during my teenage years. I might have a little more
> of my hearing left. I was never into rock'n'roll concerts and never had
> a high-power stereo, so those are the only damaging exposures I had. But
> other than the jackhammer guys, nobody wore them back then. I wear muffs
> using any power equipment now, funny looks from the neighbors be damned.
> I want to hold on to what little hearing I have left.

I always wear earplugs when I mow, trim, hit a nail with a hammer, or
anything else that seems uncomfortable. If have sensitive hearing, and I
enjoy still being able to hearing failt sounds off in the distance that other
people can't.

SteveB

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Aug 19, 2009, 10:44:32 AM8/19/09
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"ShadowTek" <Shad...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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When I got my hearing aids, I walked out, and was amazed at how loud the
birds were. At night I could hear crickets. And other little sounds. Like
aemerijers, I wish I had taken more care, but in a lot of the situations I
worked, hearing protection would have been a hindrance, as one had to listen
to some of the sounds and other workmen. My hearing is very bad.

My exposures were very loud machinery, all manner of things. Compressors,
needle scalers, compressed air tools, and industrial diving. In training,
we used to blow down to 200' in 40 seconds. That has to toughen up the
eardrums after a time. And then all the other up and down trips in up to
305' of water.

If I had it to do over, I'd do it different. I would stay in college, and
probably been a liberal.

Maybe being hard of hearing isn't so bad after all.

Steve ;-)


capitalca...@gmail.com

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Dec 10, 2017, 1:05:00 PM12/10/17
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On Saturday, August 15, 2009 at 10:57:51 PM UTC-4, ShadowTek wrote:
> Has you ever became ill after using a line-trimmer?
>
> The last two times that I've trimmed growth that was as tall I was, I
> ended up inadvertently inhaling some of the pulverized debris, and each
> night after that, I've ended up with a brief upper-respiratory
> infection.
>
> I figured is was the inhalation of mold or fungus that caused it.
>
> I was just curious if this could be a common thing when line-trimming massive
> amounts of vegetation.
>
> Either way, I'm going to have to start remembering to use dust-mask from
> now on.

It is common sense that every one's respiratory system is stronger or weaker than each other. Just like some people get poison ivory and others don't. When cutting any grass weeds or especially poison ivory or poison oak. I have learned as I just started going into my sixty's I cant use any leaf blowers or weed whackers as much because the fumes are giving me a sore throat. I have some one in our family who if she even gets near poison ivory she will start to get chocked up and will get some rashes later.

micky

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Dec 10, 2017, 10:22:55 PM12/10/17
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:04:56 -0800 (PST),
capitalca...@gmail.com wrote:

>On Saturday, August 15, 2009 at 10:57:51 PM UTC-4, ShadowTek wrote:
>> Has you ever became ill after using a line-trimmer?

Work always makes me sick.

>
>> The last two times that I've trimmed growth that was as tall I was, I
>> ended up inadvertently inhaling some of the pulverized debris, and each
>> night after that, I've ended up with a brief upper-respiratory
>> infection.

But the stuff I weed-wack isn't dry at all and there is no pulverizing.
>>
>> I figured is was the inhalation of mold or fungus that caused it.
>>
>> I was just curious if this could be a common thing when line-trimming massive
>> amounts of vegetation.
>>
>> Either way, I'm going to have to start remembering to use dust-mask from
>> now on.

I think so.

>It is common sense that every one's respiratory system is stronger or weaker than each other. Just like some people get poison ivory and others don't. When cutting any grass weeds or especially poison ivory or poison oak. I have learned as I just started going into my sixty's I cant use any leaf blowers or weed whackers as much because the fumes are giving me a sore throat. I have some one in our family who if she even gets near poison ivory she will start to get chocked up and will get some rashes later.

Hmmm. I hate leaf blowers anyhow. Let the leaves be leaves.

Eve Troff

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Dec 11, 2017, 4:39:47 AM12/11/17
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On 12/10/2017 10:22 PM, micky wrote:
> Hmmm. I hate leaf blowers anyhow. Let the leaves be leaves.

Just get rid of the trees and multiple problems are solved.

- no more tree root sewer line damage

- no more worrying about a tree falling on your house in a storm

- no more cleaning out eves-troughs

- no more raking leaves

- no more picking up broken branches

- no more fucking around with leaf blowers

- no more place for fucking squirrels to live


Did I miss anything?

Terry Coombs

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Dec 11, 2017, 8:17:18 AM12/11/17
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  Yes - No more oxygen for humans and animals to breath .

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  Snag

Sam E

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Dec 11, 2017, 11:48:54 AM12/11/17
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On 12/10/2017 09:22 PM, micky wrote:

[snip]

> Hmmm. I hate leaf blowers anyhow. Let the leaves be leaves.

A leaf blower is used to blow leaves into the street. This is littering,
but normal people don't care.



notX

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Dec 11, 2017, 11:51:44 AM12/11/17
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On 12/11/2017 07:17 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:

[snip]

>   Yes - No more oxygen for humans and animals to breath .

And one of the most common language-related errors on the internet. The
word is BREATHE (as in "If you can breathe, you can take a breath.").

>   --
>
>   Snag
>

Frank

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Dec 11, 2017, 12:23:06 PM12/11/17
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I was wearing a dust mask cutting the grass last year. My problem
unknown at the time was a cough actually caused by blood pressure med.
I changed the med, cough went away and I don't need the mask. As you
say, some are more susceptible, but I would use a mask in high dust
conditions.

micky

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Dec 11, 2017, 6:02:28 PM12/11/17
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In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 11 Dec 2017 04:39:39 -0500, Eve Troff
Pave the yard and no more grass mowing.

Paint it green and no more fertilizing.

JudysSt...@yahoo.com

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I have 6 foot ditches on front and side of my property and let it grow up so Sunday, one week ago, I literally weed eated these ditches and the yard for approximately 4 hours. I went through poison ivy, poison oak and anything else that was in my path. I felt it hitting my face and neck so I was worried I may end up with a rash but instead I ended up with a breathing problem. It started the next day with a soreness in my throat as if my throat was having an alergic reaction to what I breathed in. Now it has become a pain in my throat and my chest when I breath in deeply. I function normally but today it feels a little more intense. Does this sound like what you went through? I will also wear a mask next time.

Thomas

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