OT-Deadbeats on disability

[JoeBro]

Revisiting the original OT thread: He's to the Fed workers living high
off our taxes
<http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/17/program-for-disability-benefits-for-federal-workers-reported-rife-with-waste/>

[Moe DeLoughan]

The "Examiner" isn't a newspaper or media organization; it's a content
farm that permits almost anyone to write and submit articles for
posting. "Almost" because the owner is a right-wing billionaire who
has no problems letting birfoons and other conspiracy cranks from
posting codswallop, but will pull stories from people who wrote
reasoned rebuttal articles to that sort of nonsense.

You know the Huffington Post? This is the conservative equivalent.
Calling someone who submits articles to the Examiner or HuffPo an
'investigative reporter' is like calling a kid who plays high school
sports a pro athlete.

[Oren]

Let me guess. There are some abuses by federal employees. Out of over
a Million public federal workers, how many do you think abuse the
system?

I've seen maybe 5 that took medical retirement over 25 years. You are
familiar with federal retirement laws, right? You do know they
contribute to their own retirement funds?

One case, the man had been stabbed multiple times, almost dies on the
cell block range. In the same incident another officer left service.
Two died in the same prison assault.

Is a GS-4, Step 1, Secretary, living in NYC on $25,000 a year really "
living high" from a work related injury?

Cry about something else, today.

[NotMe]

"JoeBro" <Joe...@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:XnsA1E37A4E4A95B...@216.151.153.161...

> Revisiting the original OT thread: He's to the Fed workers living high
> off our taxes
> <http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/17/program-for-disability-benefits-for-federal-workers-reported-rife-with-waste/>

There are many claims in the artical that raise questons of varicity. first
to the best of my knowledge there are no disability program that pay past 65
as it's almosty SOP (boiler plate) that disability payments end at
retirement age.

The FECA program pays 75% of wages for most recipients, all of it tax free.
If that is the case then the coverage is paid with pre tax moneies FROM the
insured. Lacking that the IRS has determined that the income is taxable.
And it matters not if it's state, federal or private disability insurance.

That said there is much misinformation and almost as much deliberate lies on
the various disability process. As example social security disability often
takes 46 month to adjudicate with a documented 69% rate of inapproprate
denial. Private procies the rated was for a time even higer. for more look
up UNUM Provident and abuse.

[Kurt Ullman]

In article <kpqldb$9o2$1...@dont-email.me>, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net>
wrote:

> "JoeBro" <Joe...@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:XnsA1E37A4E4A95B...@216.151.153.161...
> > Revisiting the original OT thread: He's to the Fed workers living high
> > off our taxes
> > <http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/17/program-for-disability-benefits-
> > for-federal-workers-reported-rife-with-waste/>
>
> There are many claims in the artical that raise questons of varicity. first
> to the best of my knowledge there are no disability program that pay past 65
> as it's almosty SOP (boiler plate) that disability payments end at
> retirement age.
>

Not according to a GAO report:
n 2010, 31,880黍r 10 percent黍f all FECA beneficiaries were long-term,
full-time beneficiaries and 10,873 of those黍r 34 percent仇ere at full
retirement age, as defined under the Social Security Act. Of the $1.9
billion total in cash benefits paid to FECA beneficiaries, over half (58
percent) went to long-term, full-time beneficiaries. Of that half,
long-term, full-time beneficiaries at or above full Social Security
retirement age received 21 percent. This analysis covered all FECA
beneficiaries, including USPS and non-USPS employees.

http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-12-309R

> The FECA program pays 75% of wages for most recipients, all of it tax free.
> If that is the case then the coverage is paid with pre tax moneies FROM the
> insured. Lacking that the IRS has determined that the income is taxable.
> And it matters not if it's state, federal or private disability insurance.

Actually it would if the enabling legislation said differently.
Congress can make anything it wants tax free. Can't find anything
definitive either way after a couple minute search, but this tid bit
from GAO testimony to the Senate suggests that it is tax-free and also
reinforces that suggestion that it goes on past retirement.
"FECA wage loss compensation
benefits are tax free and not subject to time or age limits."

http://www.gao.gov/assets/590/586177.html
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