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Dean Hoffman
Sep 5, 2021, 7:20:11 AM9/5/21
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An Armstrong and Getty podcast had a guy on discussing healthcare issues.
They bill him as Craig the Healthcare Guru. This is what he had to say.
<http://www.benefit-revolution.com>
A couple things got my attention. Taxpayers pay at least 65% of healthcare costs. Craig says debt plus unfunded liability is $465,000/citizen.
They bill him as Craig the Healthcare Guru. This is what he had to say.
<http://www.benefit-revolution.com>
A couple things got my attention. Taxpayers pay at least 65% of healthcare costs. Craig says debt plus unfunded liability is $465,000/citizen.
angelica...@yahoo.com
Sep 5, 2021, 7:45:48 AM9/5/21
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Cindy Hamilton
Dean Hoffman
Sep 5, 2021, 7:49:45 AM9/5/21
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Frank
Sep 5, 2021, 8:17:30 AM9/5/21
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doctors.
angelica...@yahoo.com
Sep 5, 2021, 9:36:31 AM9/5/21
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Medicare: $796 billion in 2019 (61 million people)
Medicaid: $613 billion in 2019 (75 million people)
Damn those old people. Their spending is out of control.
Cindy Hamilton
gfre...@aol.com
Sep 5, 2021, 12:19:07 PM9/5/21
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care so expensive.
When you look at the unfunded liability of Medicare/Medicaid his
numbers seem about right.
Rod Speed
Sep 5, 2021, 3:51:31 PM9/5/21
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Rod Speed
Sep 5, 2021, 3:58:19 PM9/5/21
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Frank <fr...@frank.net> wrote
> and I have heard some of the same things from my doctors.
Just because some fool repeats what some other fool claims...
> Dean Hoffman wrote
>> An Armstrong and Getty podcast had a guy on discussing healthcare
>> issues.
>> They bill him as Craig the Healthcare Guru. This is what he had to say.
>> <http://www.benefit-revolution.com>
>> A couple things got my attention. Taxpayers pay at least 65% of
>> healthcare costs. Craig says debt plus unfunded liability is
>> $465,000/citizen.
> Makes a lot of sense
Bullshit it does.
>> An Armstrong and Getty podcast had a guy on discussing healthcare
>> issues.
>> They bill him as Craig the Healthcare Guru. This is what he had to say.
>> <http://www.benefit-revolution.com>
>> A couple things got my attention. Taxpayers pay at least 65% of
>> healthcare costs. Craig says debt plus unfunded liability is
>> $465,000/citizen.
> Makes a lot of sense
> and I have heard some of the same things from my doctors.
Rod Speed
Sep 5, 2021, 4:19:43 PM9/5/21
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<gfre...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:cbr9jglingnfklbr1...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 04:45:45 -0700 (PDT), "angelica...@yahoo.com"
> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 7:20:11 AM UTC-4, dean...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> An Armstrong and Getty podcast had a guy on discussing healthcare
>>> issues.
>>> They bill him as Craig the Healthcare Guru. This is what he had to say.
>>> <http://www.benefit-revolution.com>
>>> A couple things got my attention. Taxpayers pay at least 65% of
>>> healthcare costs. Craig says debt plus unfunded liability is
>>> $465,000/citizen.
>>
>>Who the hell is Craig the Healthcare Guru? Some bum off the street?
>
> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 7:20:11 AM UTC-4, dean...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> An Armstrong and Getty podcast had a guy on discussing healthcare
>>> issues.
>>> They bill him as Craig the Healthcare Guru. This is what he had to say.
>>> <http://www.benefit-revolution.com>
>>> A couple things got my attention. Taxpayers pay at least 65% of
>>> healthcare costs. Craig says debt plus unfunded liability is
>>> $465,000/citizen.
>>
>>Who the hell is Craig the Healthcare Guru? Some bum off the street?
>
> He is a medicine lawyer. The third leg of the stool that makes health
> care so expensive.
> When you look at the unfunded liability of Medicare/Medicaid his
> numbers seem about right.
Bullshit they do and that isn't all US citizens anyway, so the
> care so expensive.
> When you look at the unfunded liability of Medicare/Medicaid his
> numbers seem about right.
number is yet again, mindlessly misleading bullshit and lies.
Peeler
Sep 5, 2021, 5:22:32 PM9/5/21
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On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 06:19:22 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
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Bill Wright to Rodent Speed:
"That confirms my opinion that you are a despicable little shit."
MID: <pjqpo3$1la0$1...@gioia.aioe.org>
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
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Bill Wright to Rodent Speed:
"That confirms my opinion that you are a despicable little shit."
MID: <pjqpo3$1la0$1...@gioia.aioe.org>
Peeler
Sep 5, 2021, 5:22:57 PM9/5/21
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On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 05:58:09 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID: <XnsA97071CF43...@85.214.115.223>
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
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Kerr-Mudd,John addressing the auto-contradicting senile cretin:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
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"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID: <XnsA97071CF43...@85.214.115.223>
Peeler
Sep 5, 2021, 5:23:46 PM9/5/21
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On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 05:51:21 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
"This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative
asshole.
MID: <ev1p6ml7ywd5$.d...@sqwertz.com>
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
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Sqwertz to trolling Rodent Speed:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
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"This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative
asshole.
MID: <ev1p6ml7ywd5$.d...@sqwertz.com>
Frank
Sep 5, 2021, 6:41:44 PM9/5/21
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Marilyn Manson
Sep 5, 2021, 6:48:43 PM9/5/21
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See...you and I can agree on something. ;-)
Ed Pawlowski
Sep 5, 2021, 7:01:55 PM9/5/21
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Frank
Sep 5, 2021, 7:49:23 PM9/5/21
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he worth it?
Marilyn Manson
Sep 5, 2021, 8:54:25 PM9/5/21
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on-topic in the typical a.h.r off-topic thread?
Dean Hoffman
Sep 5, 2021, 9:31:45 PM9/5/21
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On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 7:54:25 PM UTC-5, Marilyn Manson wrote:
Snipped a bunch.
> > Which "on topic"? On topic as far as home repair or on-topic by staying
> on-topic in the typical a.h.r off-topic thread?
The discussions here seem to be a lot like people just sitting around
in a bar or coffee shop. They're just normal conversation. They wander around
when one thought sparks another.
Solutions to problems or inventions happen because of that sometimes.
This group would be almost dead if it wasn't for the OT stuff. I have maybe six or
seven bookmarked. Three of those including this one have posts regularly.
British bikers have one that stays on topic for the most part. They seem to know
each other in the real world.
The man in my mirror is always right about everything. It's nice to hear others'
opinions though.
Snipped a bunch.
> > Which "on topic"? On topic as far as home repair or on-topic by staying
> on-topic in the typical a.h.r off-topic thread?
in a bar or coffee shop. They're just normal conversation. They wander around
when one thought sparks another.
Solutions to problems or inventions happen because of that sometimes.
This group would be almost dead if it wasn't for the OT stuff. I have maybe six or
seven bookmarked. Three of those including this one have posts regularly.
British bikers have one that stays on topic for the most part. They seem to know
each other in the real world.
The man in my mirror is always right about everything. It's nice to hear others'
opinions though.
Tekkie©
Sep 6, 2021, 3:45:22 PM9/6/21
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On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 18:31:42 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman posted for all of us to
digest...
ideas. This group was set up for it's name; home repair. The charters for this
and similar groups specifically banned politics and spamming. I suggest
us.politics for political discussions. The Brits are the ones that brought
politics into this and made a shambles of this group. Ideas & thoughts on home
repair are encouraged but outside the group charter are not. I have tried to
find the charter but was unsuccessful. No servers have this group for more than
20 years. The charter is the first posting to a group.
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Tekkie
gfre...@aol.com
Sep 6, 2021, 6:44:53 PM9/6/21
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still a few clean groups but not many. These still tend to be a group
of less than 50 people and some groups are more like 6 or 7 regulars
with an occasional visitor.
It would be interesting if Golfer Man would expand the "posters" list
to 40 or 50 and see how many actual people post here in a given month,
bearing in mind some have multiple nyms. My bet is you don't get more
than 40 before you are in single digits if you get that far.
Rod Speed
Sep 6, 2021, 7:03:00 PM9/6/21
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Peeler
Sep 7, 2021, 4:06:08 AM9/7/21
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On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 09:02:50 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
--
Bod addressing abnormal senile quarreller Rot:
"Do you practice arguing with yourself in an empty room?"
MID: <g4ihla...@mid.individual.net>
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile shithead's latest trollshit unread>
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Bod addressing abnormal senile quarreller Rot:
"Do you practice arguing with yourself in an empty room?"
MID: <g4ihla...@mid.individual.net>
trader_4
Sep 7, 2021, 9:47:36 AM9/7/21
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to other forums, eg social media.
These still tend to be a group
> of less than 50 people and some groups are more like 6 or 7 regulars
> with an occasional visitor.
> It would be interesting if Golfer Man would expand the "posters" list
> to 40 or 50 and see how many actual people post here in a given month,
> bearing in mind some have multiple nyms. My bet is you don't get more
> than 40 before you are in single digits if you get that far.
creating so many off topic new threads. I create one here occasionally,
but there are a few posters creating most of those new threads and they do
one or more a day. With less OT threads, if someone stumbled in here for AHR
and looked at the topics, it would at least look more like an AHR forum.
gfre...@aol.com
Sep 7, 2021, 5:51:40 PM9/7/21
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carried by the clickbait companies. They run clean because they have
real moderators.
>
>What would be helpful would be if people stopped
>creating so many off topic new threads. I create one here occasionally,
>but there are a few posters creating most of those new threads and they do
>one or more a day. With less OT threads, if someone stumbled in here for AHR
>and looked at the topics, it would at least look more like an AHR forum.
>
Without OT, there would be about 3 posts a month here that don't come
>What would be helpful would be if people stopped
>creating so many off topic new threads. I create one here occasionally,
>but there are a few posters creating most of those new threads and they do
>one or more a day. With less OT threads, if someone stumbled in here for AHR
>and looked at the topics, it would at least look more like an AHR forum.
>
from 10 year old threads on Homeowner Hub.
Tekkie©
Sep 8, 2021, 3:41:14 PM9/8/21
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On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 18:44:37 -0400, gfre...@aol.com posted for all of us to
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Tekkie
Jim Joyce
Oct 15, 2021, 2:11:13 AM10/15/21
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gfre...@aol.com
Oct 15, 2021, 10:10:30 AM10/15/21
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 01:11:08 -0500, Jim Joyce <no...@none.invalid>
wrote:
If you look at how many of them are the same guy you prove my point.
Most of the one and 2 hit wonders are either spammers or one of our
regular trolls with a joke post.
wrote:
Most of the one and 2 hit wonders are either spammers or one of our
regular trolls with a joke post.
Jim Joyce
Oct 15, 2021, 3:14:39 PM10/15/21
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entries, it starts to look pretty weak. I pulled that list from September
so that I could get a full month, but it looks pretty typical.
I also can't help pointing out that the #1 poster seems to have a lot of
time on his hands, but I suppose that's mostly harmless.
gfre...@aol.com
Oct 15, 2021, 7:27:37 PM10/15/21
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 14:14:31 -0500, Jim Joyce <no...@none.invalid>
Every time I pose anything two or three of you have something to say
about it that I respond to. I suppose it is my problem.
I guess I shouldn't feed the trolls.
about it that I respond to. I suppose it is my problem.
I guess I shouldn't feed the trolls.
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