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bruce2...@gmail.com

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May 4, 2020, 2:59:18 PM5/4/20
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DC Police Move Tara Reade Complaint Against Joe Biden to ‘inactive’
Washington Examiner - April 29, 2020
-- https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-dc-police-move-tara-reade-complaint-against-biden-to-inactive

micky

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May 4, 2020, 3:58:33 PM5/4/20
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In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 4 May 2020 11:59:09 -0700 (PDT),
I'm not surprised.

I did try to find online the allegation that she wasn't' wearing panties
but I got nowhere. Did the poster here just make that up or quote some
worthless site?

People who talk about men who rape or otherwise abuse women say that, If
they've done it once, they've probably done it many times", yet when
there is someone with only one accuser, they never bring up the
converse, which is pretty much, If he's only accused of doing it once,
he probably didn't do it all.

Maybe that logic only works in one direction, when trying to blame men.

Others act like women never make false accusations.

And even about his playing with women's hair, I never hear anyone raise
the point that apparently that not a single one of them complained at
the time. If even one had, he'd have stopped with her and maybe with
the other.

The answer by some women is that he was the 2nd most powerful man in the
world and the women involved were afraid. a) IIUC most of the time
involved he was only a senator, not VP, b) Where did they get the silly
idea that the VP is the 2nd most powerful man in the world? "The VP
isn't worth a bucket of warm spit." Biden had more assignments than
John Nance Garner, but they could all be taken a way in an instant. But
even if his job was worth more than warm spit, he had less power than
100's of others in DC. And what would he do if a woman said, Please
leave my hair alone? Get her fired? Ridiculous. He would have left
her hair alone and concentrated on other women. It really says more
about women than about Biden. That some women are scared to stand up
for themselves. I know a woman with a Ph.D. in some science, and
because I only have a B.S, I'm impressed. I still am, but I thought
she'd have some self-confidence. Yet I saw bureaucracy run over her
without its even trying. Her passport was stolen iirc and she just
assumed she couldn't get another in time for a weekend trip she wanted
to take. She just assume she had to go in person to get her visa, when
in fact I, who as on vacation, didn't have work responsibilities like
she did, got it in less than 90 minutes. Maybe another reason I
thought this woman was tough than she is is that she is always doing the
reverse version of man-splaining. No matter what the topic is, even if
it's my personal reaction to things, things I know more about than she
does, she has an explanation for it. But I digress.

I"d like to know more about the various women who complained years later
that he played with their hair. Are they really as shy as they now say?
Are they really unassertive? Have they ever complained about some
other guy who did more to them or less to them than Biden? Is the worse
(sexual) thing that ever happened to them that Biden played with their
hair? If so, they got off pretty easy and if not, what happened the
other times?

On the People's Court, the guy in the hall puts his hand on every single
litigant. I don't know why no one complains, especially in this day and
age. If it were spontaneous, I'd not complain, but it's ever single
one. He seems to be showilng t hem where to stand, but why don't they
just put some footprints stickers on the floor and say to stand there?

And then there is the practice in the 30's and 40's moviews, and maybe
later, when the woman gets to go first but the man sort of pushes her
along, with his hand on her back at or just above her waist, as if she
stuck in the snow and can't get started without a push. I've never
understood that. And it's not because I don't think a man should touch
a woman, it's just this particular touching that seems, my favorite
word, stupid.



I remember now that my friend with the PhD was accosted, molested to
some degree, she didn't go into detail, at a park near her home when she
was 10 or 12 or 14. I don't think she gave me the age either. I'm sure
that had some effect, but how it would make her vulnerable to
bureaucracies I don't know. I think it more likely she'd been
intimidated by actual bureaucracies.

Hawk

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May 4, 2020, 6:32:17 PM5/4/20
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But if it was Trump, he'd be guilty as sin and getting away with murder,
even though he doesn't have a habit of softly touching and caressing
women he frequently meets.

philo

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May 4, 2020, 7:16:55 PM5/4/20
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On 5/4/2020 5:31 PM, Hawk wrote:
> On 5/4/2020 3:58 PM, micky wrote:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 4 May 2020 11:59:09 -0700 (PDT),
>> bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> DC Police Move Tara Reade Complaint Against Joe Biden to ‘inactive’
>>> Washington Examiner - April 29, 2020
>>> --
>>> https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-dc-police-move-tara-reade-complaint-against-biden-to-inactive
>>>
>>
>> I'm not surprised.
>>
>> I did try to find online the allegation that she wasn't' wearing panties
>> but I got nowhere.  Did the poster here just make that up or quote some
>> worthless site?
>>
>> People who talk about men who rape or otherwise abuse women say that, If
>> they've done it once, they've probably done it many times", yet when
>> there is someone with only one accuser, they never bring up the
>> converse, which is pretty much, If he's only accused of doing it once,
>> he probably didn't do it all.
>>
>> Maybe that logic only works in one direction, when trying to blame men.
>>
>> Others act like women never make false accusations.
>>
>> And even about his playing with women's hair, I never hear anyone raise
>> the point that apparently that not a single one of them complained at
>> the time.  If even one had, he'd have stopped with her and maybe with
>> the other.
>X


<snip>

I am still a believer in innocent until proven guilty.


Though I dislike our current POTUS and have harshly criticized him,
I've never said one word about his accusations.

Hawk

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May 4, 2020, 8:04:26 PM5/4/20
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As am I but we're the minority in that dept. Most people accused of a
crime or mishap are quickly criticized and condemned, mainly on social
media, regardless of facts that may slap them directly.
>
>
> Though I dislike our current POTUS and have harshly criticized him,
> I've never said one word about his accusations.

His accusations to what?

trader_4

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May 4, 2020, 9:02:54 PM5/4/20
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Why would the police even have wasted any time on it to begin with? There must
be a statute of limitations that has long past.

trader_4

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May 4, 2020, 9:10:07 PM5/4/20
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And we sure didn't see Micky here defending Kavanagh when Ford was making her allegations, quite the opposite, he believed her. Ford had nothing. She didn't know how she got to the alleged party, who she called to get her after her alleged assault, where the house was, who owned the house. The friend she claimed was there said she doesn't know of any such party. Biden's accuser has a friend who she told about it at the time and she told her mother, who made a call to Larry King at the time which is on record. No question there is a double standard among the media and Democrats.

Jim Joyce

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May 4, 2020, 9:18:24 PM5/4/20
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Probably referring to the 25 women who have accused Trump of sexual
misconduct.

<https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12>

"At least 25 women have made sexual misconduct allegations against Trump
since the 1970s."

"A deluge of women made their accusations public following the October 2016
release of the "Access Hollywood" tape, in which Trump was recorded
boasting about grabbing women's genitals in 2005."


RosemontCrest

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May 4, 2020, 9:37:27 PM5/4/20
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Those are not Trump's accusations; those accusations made by others.

Hawk

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May 4, 2020, 11:26:04 PM5/4/20
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That's the point. Several have made accusations against him and we all
know the Stormy Daniels issue. The haters jumped on the bandwagon with
guilty verdicts. Yet, take a goofball who is known to touch and caress
women and who's faces have clearly displayed expressions of discomfort,
and it's acceptable because good ole Joe wouldn't hurt a fly. Double
standards run rampant.

Jim Joyce

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May 5, 2020, 2:58:54 AM5/5/20
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If Trump is to be believed, you're right. Rather than softly touching and
caressing he claims he just starts kissing them and grabbing their pussy.
Some get paid good money afterwards, like Stormy and Karen.

micky

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May 5, 2020, 5:56:28 AM5/5/20
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Max Price

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May 5, 2020, 6:18:13 AM5/5/20
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If you are a politician accused of a sex crime, it's definitely better to be a democrat.

The MSM court has already found Joe "Not Guilty".

Jim Joyce

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May 5, 2020, 11:02:24 AM5/5/20
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Democrat Al Franken took an inappropriate picture, and that was enough for
him to resign in disgrace.

Republican Jim Jordan was reportedly aware of all kinds of sexual
misconduct when he was a wrestling coach. Did he resign in disgrace? No.

bruce2...@gmail.com

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May 5, 2020, 11:56:52 AM5/5/20
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Trump was proven guilty tonnes of times, but it doesn't matter unless it's Hillary or Biden

Hawk

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May 5, 2020, 12:12:06 PM5/5/20
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If it was proven, he'd be impeached or in jail, where Hillary should be.
Try again.

Roger Oveur

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May 5, 2020, 12:13:12 PM5/5/20
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On 5/5/2020 11:56 AM, bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
The MSM Court leans to the left.  Republicans don't get a fair trial.


trader_4

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May 5, 2020, 2:09:30 PM5/5/20
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Yeah, well when you date porn stars, that goes with the territory.
And saying that you can grab women by the pussy doesn't help either.
Curiously his great evangelical base doesn't see any issues with it.



> The haters jumped on the bandwagon with
> guilty verdicts. Yet, take a goofball who is known to touch and caress
> women

You're right, Trump is a goofball, but that's only the beginning of his
problems.

trader_4

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May 5, 2020, 2:14:12 PM5/5/20
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There has been plenty of proof, it's just that the Republicans refused to
acknowledge the truth during his impeachment trial. Witnesses? We don't
want no stinking witnesses. It's like Trump said, he could shoot someone
on Fifth Ave and his supporters would still love him. I took that to mean
he knows they are stupid and he has them fooled. I have to laugh at
Susan Collins, who voted not to remove and actually said that
she thought he learned from his impeachment and would improve. A couple
months later, Trump is firing IG's, firing Vindman, firing anyone who told
the truth and Collins said she was surprised, disappointed, etc. Really?

FromTheRafters

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May 5, 2020, 3:43:40 PM5/5/20
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Hawk used his or her keyboard to write :
Oh no, not another one. He *was* impeached, hell it was even on
television.

Clare Snyder

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May 5, 2020, 6:13:28 PM5/5/20
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You don't get it - the crook WAS IMPEACHED. He just wasn't convicted
by his groupies.

Clare Snyder

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May 5, 2020, 6:14:49 PM5/5/20
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On Tue, 5 May 2020 12:13:08 -0400, Roger Oveur <roger...@inval.id>
wrote:

>
>>>>> In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 4 May 2020 11:59:09 -0700 (PDT),
Up untill about nov 2016 the MSM was accused of being "right wing".

I don;t think the MSM has changed that much - just the accusers

rbowman

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May 5, 2020, 10:50:10 PM5/5/20
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I must have missed the right wing phase.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/

"he NYT looks at the issues from a progressive perspective and is
regarded as “liberal”. According to a Pew Research Centers’ media
polarization report “the ideological Placement of Each Source’s
Audience” places the audience for the New York Times as “consistently
liberal.” Further, since 1960 The New York Times has only endorsed
Democratic Presidential Candidates.'

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/

Here's the whole list:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/leftcenter/

I find little to criticize in their categorization of the sources I'm
familiar with, left or right. It's interesting the least biased list
consists of local newspapers and organizations like VOA. I only skimmed
it but I didn't see any name brand outlets.

Hawk

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May 6, 2020, 8:01:26 AM5/6/20
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Ofcourse we know how legit that really was. (◔_◔)

Hawk

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May 6, 2020, 8:05:53 AM5/6/20
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I meant to add "convicted" of the ridiculous impeachment cause we all
know how legit it truly was. (◔_◔)

trader_4

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May 6, 2020, 8:34:33 AM5/6/20
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Yes, we all saw what the Republicans in the Senate did. You want witnesses that
were there, that spoke with Trump, that know what he did? We can't let
that happen. It was a kangaroo court, but even without witnesses the evidence
that Trump strong armed president Zelensky, tried to force him to launch
mostly insane, baseless investigations, while withholding US military aid
as Ukranians were dying in a war with RUSSIA. Those baseless investigations
were aimed to undermine Democrats, undermine Biden and help Trump's re-election.
Trump put his re-election over America's national security, over Ukraine,
over the law. No surprise there though, it's what Trump always does, it's
always about Trump, Trump, Trump.

Next!




trader_4

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May 6, 2020, 8:37:07 AM5/6/20
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On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 11:02:24 AM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
> On Tue, 5 May 2020 06:18:08 -0400, Max Price <m.p...@0pt0nline.net> wrote:
>
> >On 5/5/20 5:56 AM, micky wrote:
> >> In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 4 May 2020 11:59:09 -0700 (PDT),
> >> bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> DC Police Move Tara Reade Complaint Against Joe Biden to ‘inactive’
> >>> Washington Examiner - April 29, 2020
> >>> -- https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-dc-police-move-tara-reade-complaint-against-biden-to-inactive
> >>
> >> More detailed:
> >> https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/04/29/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation-tara-reade-column/3046962001/
> >>
> >>
> >> https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/whats-joe-biden-supposed-to-do-call-his-accuser-a-lying-dog-faced-pony-soldier/
> >
> >
> >If you are a politician accused of a sex crime, it's definitely better to be a democrat.
>
> Democrat Al Franken took an inappropriate picture, and that was enough for
> him to resign in disgrace.

I don't like Franken, don't agree with his politics, but I thought he was
treated very unfairly. He's a former comedian and what he did was not in any
way intended as an assault, it was a joke. If the picture was all he did,
it didn't look like he even touched her.

Bob F

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May 6, 2020, 10:33:25 PM5/6/20
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He was impeached.

Bob F

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May 6, 2020, 10:34:57 PM5/6/20
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We all know the Republicans in the Senate were unwilling to let the
witnesses speak.

Jim Joyce

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May 7, 2020, 1:44:40 AM5/7/20
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On Wed, 6 May 2020 05:37:03 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net>
wrote:
I agree with you, but it would have been a much better joke if she had been
in on it instead of asleep. But yes, he got run out of town for something
that other people would have shrugged off.

FromTheRafters

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May 7, 2020, 7:35:30 AM5/7/20
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Bob F formulated the question :
He misspoke and admitted it. Strange he didn't just deny having said it
like his hero would have done.
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