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Ben Verified - ✅
Sep 16, 2023, 6:53:04 AM9/16/23
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General Flynn Asserts He Will Not Comply with the COVID Hysteria Being Pushed by Biden Regime and Corporate Media
General Michael Flynn has openly refused to comply with the Biden regime’s looming COVID-19 restrictions. This comes as the Biden regime is
reportedly preparing to reinstate full COVID-19 lockdowns, beginning with masking mandates for TSA and airport employees as early as
mid-September, as reported by The Gateway Pundit citing Infowars.
It can be recalled that a high-level TSA official reached out to Alex Jones of Infowars, detailing a meeting where TSA managers were informed of
new memorandums and policies that would reimplement mask-wearing.
These policies will reinstate the mask mandate for TSA and airport employees starting mid-September.
According to the TSA official, further details on how the policy will escalate will be provided the coming weeks.
The official added that by mid-October, mask-wearing will be mandated for pilots, flight staff, passengers, and all airport patrons.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/general-flynn-refuses-comply-covid-hysteria-being-pushed/
The dictator Democrats are at it again.
General Michael Flynn has openly refused to comply with the Biden regime’s looming COVID-19 restrictions. This comes as the Biden regime is
reportedly preparing to reinstate full COVID-19 lockdowns, beginning with masking mandates for TSA and airport employees as early as
mid-September, as reported by The Gateway Pundit citing Infowars.
It can be recalled that a high-level TSA official reached out to Alex Jones of Infowars, detailing a meeting where TSA managers were informed of
new memorandums and policies that would reimplement mask-wearing.
These policies will reinstate the mask mandate for TSA and airport employees starting mid-September.
According to the TSA official, further details on how the policy will escalate will be provided the coming weeks.
The official added that by mid-October, mask-wearing will be mandated for pilots, flight staff, passengers, and all airport patrons.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/general-flynn-refuses-comply-covid-hysteria-being-pushed/
The dictator Democrats are at it again.
trader_4
Sep 16, 2023, 9:20:30 AM9/16/23
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On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 6:53:04 AM UTC-4, Ben Verified - ✅ wrote:
> General Flynn Asserts He Will Not Comply with the COVID Hysteria Being Pushed by Biden Regime and Corporate Media
>
> General Michael Flynn has openly refused to comply with the Biden regime’s looming COVID-19 restrictions. This comes as the Biden regime is
> reportedly preparing to reinstate full COVID-19 lockdowns, beginning with masking mandates for TSA and airport employees as early as
> mid-September, as reported by The Gateway Pundit citing Infowars.
Wow, ain't that something, GP citing Infowars, what great sources. Infowar's
> General Flynn Asserts He Will Not Comply with the COVID Hysteria Being Pushed by Biden Regime and Corporate Media
>
> General Michael Flynn has openly refused to comply with the Biden regime’s looming COVID-19 restrictions. This comes as the Biden regime is
> reportedly preparing to reinstate full COVID-19 lockdowns, beginning with masking mandates for TSA and airport employees as early as
> mid-September, as reported by The Gateway Pundit citing Infowars.
Alex Jones owes $1.5 bil to the victims of the Sandy Hook School shooting,
GP is being sued by Ross and Freeman, the two defamed GA election workers
in a case very similar to the one Rudy just lost and is awaiting judgment.
And an interesting thing happened the other day. Rudy was flapping his gums
on one of the right wing nut shows, he was talking about the law firm that
represented Ross and Freeman in the case that they just won. He said that
they represented the two women that threw observers out and counted ballots
in private. I guess Rudy wants another lawsuit, because that's yet another
defamatory lie. And it comes after he already admitted that what he previously
said was false and defamatory. He's like a walking lawsuit factory.
>
> It can be recalled that a high-level TSA official reached out to Alex Jones of Infowars, detailing a meeting where TSA managers were informed of
> new memorandums and policies that would reimplement mask-wearing.
>
> These policies will reinstate the mask mandate for TSA and airport employees starting mid-September.
>
> According to the TSA official, further details on how the policy will escalate will be provided the coming weeks.
>
> The official added that by mid-October, mask-wearing will be mandated for pilots, flight staff, passengers, and all airport patrons.
>
>
> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/general-flynn-refuses-comply-covid-hysteria-being-pushed/
>
>
> The dictator Democrats are at it again.
last two months.
danny burstein
Sep 16, 2023, 9:34:07 AM9/16/23
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In <17855b9ffa697c6d$1$954734$3aa1...@news.newsdemon.com> =?UTF-8?Q?Ben_Verified_-_=e2=9c=85?= <ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> writes:
[snip]
Hey, anonymous troller. Instead of you just being another sheep
in your Denialist DEATH CULT, I'll give you a chance to show your
colleagues, in the words of Robert Vaughn, that You Mean Business.
Just kick us contact info and I'll spot you a one way (that's all
you'll need) ticket to the Koresh compound in Waco, TX. You know,
the city your False Messiah held that rally.
Or, if you prefer, I'll kikc you a similar ticket to Ranch Sante Fe,
along with the directions to Applewhite's group. (The Nike Sneakers
are on you dime). Of course, if you choose option #2, we'll want
to see proof you got the medical procedure first.
Sorry, but Jonestown and Kenya are too high for my budget.
So c'mon and Fulfill Your Destiny. Or are you a coward?
--
_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
dan...@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
[snip]
Hey, anonymous troller. Instead of you just being another sheep
in your Denialist DEATH CULT, I'll give you a chance to show your
colleagues, in the words of Robert Vaughn, that You Mean Business.
Just kick us contact info and I'll spot you a one way (that's all
you'll need) ticket to the Koresh compound in Waco, TX. You know,
the city your False Messiah held that rally.
Or, if you prefer, I'll kikc you a similar ticket to Ranch Sante Fe,
along with the directions to Applewhite's group. (The Nike Sneakers
are on you dime). Of course, if you choose option #2, we'll want
to see proof you got the medical procedure first.
Sorry, but Jonestown and Kenya are too high for my budget.
So c'mon and Fulfill Your Destiny. Or are you a coward?
--
_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
dan...@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
Cindy Hamilton
Sep 16, 2023, 10:47:18 AM9/16/23
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On 2023-09-16, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> Even if it turns out to be true, it's just a mask. Covid cases have tripled in the
> last two months.
I saw some sort of meme or something yesterday. It went something like
>
> Even if it turns out to be true, it's just a mask. Covid cases have tripled in the
> last two months.
this:
Right-winger: When I put a mask on, in literally 10 seconds I'm gasping
for breath.
Sane person: Tell that to the surgeon who wore a mask for six hours
while he reconstructed my knee. He'd tell you that you're lying and
a big old drama queen.
--
Cindy Hamilton
Bob F
Sep 16, 2023, 6:47:46 PM9/16/23
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Bob F
Sep 16, 2023, 7:03:59 PM9/16/23
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N95 mask on. That right winger must be pretty close to death already.
Clare Snyder
Sep 16, 2023, 10:16:12 PM9/16/23
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Ben Verified - ✅
Sep 17, 2023, 6:15:22 AM9/17/23
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as looney as any Demonrat.
OTOH, a real Republican would opine the clot shot is optional. Your body, your choice.
The tyrannical DNC mandates the clot shot whether you want it or not.
Skid Marks
Sep 17, 2023, 6:35:21 AM9/17/23
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Just curious, if you've been fully jabbed, why do you still need an N95?
danny burstein
Sep 17, 2023, 6:39:59 AM9/17/23
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In <BDANM.22199$Yxl8....@fx14.iad> Skid Marks <skid....@socialist.media> writes:
[snip]
>No jabs, no masks, no election year virus and this old right winger is still standing.
>Just curious, if you've been fully jabbed, why do you still need an N95?
Just curious, if you claim to be an adult, do you still need help
wiping your mouth of all the dibble pouring out of it?
[snip]
>No jabs, no masks, no election year virus and this old right winger is still standing.
>Just curious, if you've been fully jabbed, why do you still need an N95?
wiping your mouth of all the dibble pouring out of it?
trader_4
Sep 17, 2023, 10:17:51 AM9/17/23
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was talking to someone about masks and that person said they won't wear one,
but they don't have an issue with others wearing them. Sid said that when he sees
someone wearing a mask, he wants to punch them in the face, he can't stand it,
it reminds him of sickness and ruins his day. That sure fits in with how wound up
they still are over masks. The person wearing the mask could have health issues
that makes them high risk, they choose to wear a mask and this dope gets angry.
He also said, how are you supposed to explain that some people are wearing masks
to your kids? I guess he's not very good at parenting either if he can't handle that.
I'd explain it per what I said above. These nuts probably explain it as "that guy is
a libtard".
micky
Sep 17, 2023, 10:24:42 AM9/17/23
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In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 16 Sep 2023 22:16:04 -0400, Clare Snyder
end to confusion.
Ever since people have known how to stop people from gettting sick
and/or dying from contagious diseases, they did so.
When my mother started 1st grade in 1914, they wouldn't let her in
without a smallpox vaccination. She had one but they couldn't see the
scar, so she had to go back to the doctor to get another one. And she
did.
Because people have an innate right to protect themselves from diseases
that spread by other people.
Mike Flynn especially is a crackpot. He is the only one the Obama
administration warned trump about. IIRC trump gave him an important job
anyhow and even he had to fire him not long after.
<cl...@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 06:52:56 -0400, Ben Verified - ?
><ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> wrote:
>
>>General Flynn Asserts He Will Not Comply with the COVID Hysteria Being Pushed by Biden Regime and Corporate Media
>>
>>General Michael Flynn has openly refused to comply with the Biden regime’s looming COVID-19 restrictions. This comes as the Biden regime is
>>reportedly preparing to reinstate full COVID-19 lockdowns, beginning with masking mandates for TSA and airport employees as early as
>>mid-September, as reported by The Gateway Pundit citing Infowars.
People who read either the Gatewaydumbell or Misinfowars will have no
>On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 06:52:56 -0400, Ben Verified - ?
><ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> wrote:
>
>>General Flynn Asserts He Will Not Comply with the COVID Hysteria Being Pushed by Biden Regime and Corporate Media
>>
>>General Michael Flynn has openly refused to comply with the Biden regime’s looming COVID-19 restrictions. This comes as the Biden regime is
>>reportedly preparing to reinstate full COVID-19 lockdowns, beginning with masking mandates for TSA and airport employees as early as
>>mid-September, as reported by The Gateway Pundit citing Infowars.
end to confusion.
Ever since people have known how to stop people from gettting sick
and/or dying from contagious diseases, they did so.
When my mother started 1st grade in 1914, they wouldn't let her in
without a smallpox vaccination. She had one but they couldn't see the
scar, so she had to go back to the doctor to get another one. And she
did.
Because people have an innate right to protect themselves from diseases
that spread by other people.
Mike Flynn especially is a crackpot. He is the only one the Obama
administration warned trump about. IIRC trump gave him an important job
anyhow and even he had to fire him not long after.
Greta Thongturd
Sep 17, 2023, 6:27:01 PM9/17/23
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danny burstein wrote:
> In <BDANM.22199$Yxl8....@fx14.iad> Skid Marks <skid....@socialist.media> writes:
>
> [snip]
>
>> No jabs, no masks, no election year virus and this old right winger is still standing.
>> Just curious, if you've been fully jabbed, why do you still need an N95?
> Just curious, if you claim to be an adult, do you still need help
> wiping your mouth of all the dibble pouring out of it?
>
>
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/masks-fail-their-latest-test#%C2%A7new-evidence-showing-harms-from-wearing-masks
> In <BDANM.22199$Yxl8....@fx14.iad> Skid Marks <skid....@socialist.media> writes:
>
> [snip]
>
>> No jabs, no masks, no election year virus and this old right winger is still standing.
>> Just curious, if you've been fully jabbed, why do you still need an N95?
> Just curious, if you claim to be an adult, do you still need help
> wiping your mouth of all the dibble pouring out of it?
>
>
danny burstein
Sep 17, 2023, 6:32:41 PM9/17/23
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teachers pulling out your Permanent Record, reviewing the marks you received, and
looking to see if there's any way to replace them with F's.
Skid Marks
Sep 18, 2023, 6:14:14 AM9/18/23
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danny burstein wrote:
> In <O2LNM.1870$oX8....@fx46.iad> Greta Thongturd <greta.t...@cologny.mafia.wef> writes:
>
>> danny burstein wrote:
>>> In <BDANM.22199$Yxl8....@fx14.iad> Skid Marks <skid....@socialist.media> writes:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>> No jabs, no masks, no election year virus and this old right winger is still standing.
>>>> Just curious, if you've been fully jabbed, why do you still need an N95?
>>> Just curious, if you claim to be an adult, do you still need help
>>> wiping your mouth of all the dibble pouring out of it?
>> https://kirschsubstack.com/p/masks-fail-their-latest-test#%C2%A7new-evidence-showing-harms-from-wearing-masks
> Speaking of FAILING, that sound you hear is a generation of your health and science
> teachers pulling out your Permanent Record, reviewing the marks you received, and
> looking to see if there's any way to replace them with F's.
>
They taught the art of Ad Hominem in your science classes?
> In <O2LNM.1870$oX8....@fx46.iad> Greta Thongturd <greta.t...@cologny.mafia.wef> writes:
>
>> danny burstein wrote:
>>> In <BDANM.22199$Yxl8....@fx14.iad> Skid Marks <skid....@socialist.media> writes:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>> No jabs, no masks, no election year virus and this old right winger is still standing.
>>>> Just curious, if you've been fully jabbed, why do you still need an N95?
>>> Just curious, if you claim to be an adult, do you still need help
>>> wiping your mouth of all the dibble pouring out of it?
>> https://kirschsubstack.com/p/masks-fail-their-latest-test#%C2%A7new-evidence-showing-harms-from-wearing-masks
> Speaking of FAILING, that sound you hear is a generation of your health and science
> teachers pulling out your Permanent Record, reviewing the marks you received, and
> looking to see if there's any way to replace them with F's.
>
Jim Joyce
Sep 18, 2023, 11:08:05 PM9/18/23
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When it comes to certain vaccines, it's "your body, your choice."
But when it comes to women's health, it's "your body, OUR choice."
alt.home.repair
Sep 19, 2023, 9:37:17 AM9/19/23
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is beyond your pay grade. Did you forget the word for abortion?
danny burstein
Sep 19, 2023, 9:40:41 AM9/19/23
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In <488a209d-350e-483e...@googlegroups.com> "alt.home.repair" <tra...@optonline.net> writes:
>> When it comes to certain vaccines, it's "your body, your choice."=20
back in your mom's basement.
>> When it comes to certain vaccines, it's "your body, your choice."=20
>> But when it comes to women's health, it's "your body, OUR choice."
>Obviously the concept of the life of a fetus being involved in once case
>is beyond your pay grade. Did you forget the word for abortion?
Hey, "trader". Your groupthink is boring. Get
>Obviously the concept of the life of a fetus being involved in once case
>is beyond your pay grade. Did you forget the word for abortion?
back in your mom's basement.
Cindy Hamilton
Sep 19, 2023, 10:34:33 AM9/19/23
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--
Cindy Hamilton
micky
Sep 19, 2023, 1:12:08 PM9/19/23
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 17 Sep 2023 07:17:46 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
<tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 10:47:18?AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-09-16, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Even if it turns out to be true, it's just a mask. Covid cases have tripled in the
>> > last two months.
>> I saw some sort of meme or something yesterday. It went something like
>> this:
>>
>> Right-winger: When I put a mask on, in literally 10 seconds I'm gasping
>> for breath.
>>
>> Sane person: Tell that to the surgeon who wore a mask for six hours
>> while he reconstructed my knee. He'd tell you that you're lying and
>> a big old drama queen.
>>
>> --
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>I was listening to right winger Sid Rosenberg on NYC radio the other day. He
>was talking to someone about masks and that person said they won't wear one,
>but they don't have an issue with others wearing them. Sid said that when he sees
>someone wearing a mask, he wants to punch them in the face, he can't stand it,
>it reminds him of sickness and ruins his day.
Poor little baby.
> That sure fits in with how wound up
>they still are over masks. The person wearing the mask could have health issues
>that makes them high risk, they choose to wear a mask and this dope gets angry.
I finally subscribed to National Geographic. I get an email that says,
Covid is back with a vengeance. Turns out deaths are up 10%. That's
bad and worse may be coming, but it's not a "vengeance" in my use of the
word. Anyhow, Covid infections and deaths are indeed up, and I have to
call my pulmonologist and ask if my problem makes me more vulnerable to
covid or not. He still hasn't figure out what's wrong with me, but
maybe he can guess the answer to my question. (Meanwhile I spent 4
hours at the Pittsburgh Zoo. The area is so hilly they have an
escalator at the entrance to take you up he first 50 feet. I took the
tram to the top of the in-zoo hill (another 60 feet up) and, for the
most part, walked down from there.
<tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 10:47:18?AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-09-16, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Even if it turns out to be true, it's just a mask. Covid cases have tripled in the
>> > last two months.
>> I saw some sort of meme or something yesterday. It went something like
>> this:
>>
>> Right-winger: When I put a mask on, in literally 10 seconds I'm gasping
>> for breath.
>>
>> Sane person: Tell that to the surgeon who wore a mask for six hours
>> while he reconstructed my knee. He'd tell you that you're lying and
>> a big old drama queen.
>>
>> --
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>I was listening to right winger Sid Rosenberg on NYC radio the other day. He
>was talking to someone about masks and that person said they won't wear one,
>but they don't have an issue with others wearing them. Sid said that when he sees
>someone wearing a mask, he wants to punch them in the face, he can't stand it,
>it reminds him of sickness and ruins his day.
> That sure fits in with how wound up
>they still are over masks. The person wearing the mask could have health issues
>that makes them high risk, they choose to wear a mask and this dope gets angry.
Covid is back with a vengeance. Turns out deaths are up 10%. That's
bad and worse may be coming, but it's not a "vengeance" in my use of the
word. Anyhow, Covid infections and deaths are indeed up, and I have to
call my pulmonologist and ask if my problem makes me more vulnerable to
covid or not. He still hasn't figure out what's wrong with me, but
maybe he can guess the answer to my question. (Meanwhile I spent 4
hours at the Pittsburgh Zoo. The area is so hilly they have an
escalator at the entrance to take you up he first 50 feet. I took the
tram to the top of the in-zoo hill (another 60 feet up) and, for the
most part, walked down from there.
Robin Ware
Sep 19, 2023, 4:40:52 PM9/19/23
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micky wrote:
> I finally subscribed to National Geographic. I get an email that says,
> Covid is back with a vengeance. Turns out deaths are up 10%. That's
> bad and worse may be coming, but it's not a "vengeance" in my use of the
> word. Anyhow, Covid infections and deaths are indeed up, and I have to
> call my pulmonologist and ask if my problem makes me more vulnerable to
> covid or not.
If you are fully vaxxinated and wear a mask, you're 'bulletproof', right?
> I finally subscribed to National Geographic. I get an email that says,
> Covid is back with a vengeance. Turns out deaths are up 10%. That's
> bad and worse may be coming, but it's not a "vengeance" in my use of the
> word. Anyhow, Covid infections and deaths are indeed up, and I have to
> call my pulmonologist and ask if my problem makes me more vulnerable to
> covid or not.
Bob F
Sep 19, 2023, 5:12:57 PM9/19/23
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Scott Lurndal
Sep 19, 2023, 5:57:16 PM9/19/23
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micky
Sep 19, 2023, 10:43:54 PM9/19/23
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In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 19 Sep 2023 14:34:26 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
>> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 11:08:05?PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 06:15:14 -0400, Ben Verified - ?
>>> <ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Yah, the GOP has become infiltrated with a bunch of undercover Democrats aka RINOs. Once selected by the tabulators, the RINOs do a 180 and are
>>> >as looney as any Demonrat.
>>> >
>>> >OTOH, a real Republican would opine the clot shot is optional. Your body, your choice.
>>> The Republican position seems to be a bit wobbly.
>>>
>>> When it comes to certain vaccines, it's "your body, your choice."
>>> But when it comes to women's health, it's "your body, OUR choice."
>>
>> Obviously the concept of the life of a fetus being involved in once case
>> is beyond your pay grade. Did you forget the word for abortion?
>
>Not everybody considers a fetus to be a person. I certainly don't.
Trader didn't use the word "person".
>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 06:15:14 -0400, Ben Verified - ?
>>> <ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Yah, the GOP has become infiltrated with a bunch of undercover Democrats aka RINOs. Once selected by the tabulators, the RINOs do a 180 and are
>>> >as looney as any Demonrat.
>>> >
>>> >OTOH, a real Republican would opine the clot shot is optional. Your body, your choice.
>>> The Republican position seems to be a bit wobbly.
>>>
>>> When it comes to certain vaccines, it's "your body, your choice."
>>> But when it comes to women's health, it's "your body, OUR choice."
>>
>> Obviously the concept of the life of a fetus being involved in once case
>> is beyond your pay grade. Did you forget the word for abortion?
>
>Not everybody considers a fetus to be a person. I certainly don't.
micky
Sep 19, 2023, 10:44:31 PM9/19/23
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In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 19 Sep 2023 16:40:44 -0400, Robin Ware
No. Who told you that? The most important factors are, in declining
order, how many people you meet who are infected and how much time you
spend with them and whether you or they wear masks during that time.
It's conceivable to me that genes could make a difference
I haven't been infected either, for a combination of all 4 reasons I
think.
order, how many people you meet who are infected and how much time you
spend with them and whether you or they wear masks during that time.
It's conceivable to me that genes could make a difference
I haven't been infected either, for a combination of all 4 reasons I
think.
Bob F
Sep 20, 2023, 12:12:50 AM9/20/23
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Americans, what ever their beliefs are. And they claim to be the
protectors of what they call "freedom".
Cindy Hamilton
Sep 20, 2023, 6:50:41 AM9/20/23
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what happens to the fetus of an animal that isn't Homo sapiens.
--
Cindy Hamilton
trader_4
Sep 20, 2023, 9:03:29 AM9/20/23
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opinion. And regardless of what you think personally, it's only reasonable to
acknowledge that there are other opinions and not flippantly compare abortion
to getting a vaccine.
trader_4
Sep 20, 2023, 9:06:41 AM9/20/23
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danny burstein
Sep 20, 2023, 9:11:07 AM9/20/23
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In <8624326c-66dd-4549...@googlegroups.com> trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> writes:
[snip of delusional doody shit]
[snip of delusional doody shit]
Cindy Hamilton
Sep 20, 2023, 9:47:49 AM9/20/23
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On 2023-09-20, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:34:33 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-09-19, alt.home.repair <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> > On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 11:08:05 PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 06:15:14 -0400, Ben Verified - ?
>> >> <ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Yah, the GOP has become infiltrated with a bunch of undercover Democrats aka RINOs. Once selected by the tabulators, the RINOs do a 180 and are
>> >> >as looney as any Demonrat.
>> >> >
>> >> >OTOH, a real Republican would opine the clot shot is optional. Your body, your choice.
>> >> The Republican position seems to be a bit wobbly.
>> >>
>> >> When it comes to certain vaccines, it's "your body, your choice."
>> >> But when it comes to women's health, it's "your body, OUR choice."
>> >
>> > Obviously the concept of the life of a fetus being involved in once case
>> > is beyond your pay grade. Did you forget the word for abortion?
>> Not everybody considers a fetus to be a person. I certainly don't.
>>
>> --
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> So then you're OK with abortions right up until delivery then.
That's a big assumption.
> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:34:33 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-09-19, alt.home.repair <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> > On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 11:08:05 PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 06:15:14 -0400, Ben Verified - ?
>> >> <ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Yah, the GOP has become infiltrated with a bunch of undercover Democrats aka RINOs. Once selected by the tabulators, the RINOs do a 180 and are
>> >> >as looney as any Demonrat.
>> >> >
>> >> >OTOH, a real Republican would opine the clot shot is optional. Your body, your choice.
>> >> The Republican position seems to be a bit wobbly.
>> >>
>> >> When it comes to certain vaccines, it's "your body, your choice."
>> >> But when it comes to women's health, it's "your body, OUR choice."
>> >
>> > Obviously the concept of the life of a fetus being involved in once case
>> > is beyond your pay grade. Did you forget the word for abortion?
>> Not everybody considers a fetus to be a person. I certainly don't.
>>
>> --
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> So then you're OK with abortions right up until delivery then.
No. Right up until the point where they're viable (including modern
technology to keep preemies alive).
> That's a minority
> opinion. And regardless of what you think personally, it's only reasonable to
> acknowledge that there are other opinions and not flippantly compare abortion
> to getting a vaccine.
Cindy Hamilton
trader_4
Sep 20, 2023, 10:18:13 AM9/20/23
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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:47:49 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-09-20, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:34:33 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On 2023-09-19, alt.home.repair <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >> > On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 11:08:05 PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 06:15:14 -0400, Ben Verified - ?
> >> >> <ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Yah, the GOP has become infiltrated with a bunch of undercover Democrats aka RINOs. Once selected by the tabulators, the RINOs do a 180 and are
> >> >> >as looney as any Demonrat.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >OTOH, a real Republican would opine the clot shot is optional. Your body, your choice.
> >> >> The Republican position seems to be a bit wobbly.
> >> >>
> >> >> When it comes to certain vaccines, it's "your body, your choice."
> >> >> But when it comes to women's health, it's "your body, OUR choice."
> >> >
> >> > Obviously the concept of the life of a fetus being involved in once case
> >> > is beyond your pay grade. Did you forget the word for abortion?
> >> Not everybody considers a fetus to be a person. I certainly don't.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > So then you're OK with abortions right up until delivery then.
> That's a big assumption.
Kind of like you implying that I considered a fetus to be a person.
> On 2023-09-20, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:34:33 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On 2023-09-19, alt.home.repair <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >> > On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 11:08:05 PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 06:15:14 -0400, Ben Verified - ?
> >> >> <ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Yah, the GOP has become infiltrated with a bunch of undercover Democrats aka RINOs. Once selected by the tabulators, the RINOs do a 180 and are
> >> >> >as looney as any Demonrat.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >OTOH, a real Republican would opine the clot shot is optional. Your body, your choice.
> >> >> The Republican position seems to be a bit wobbly.
> >> >>
> >> >> When it comes to certain vaccines, it's "your body, your choice."
> >> >> But when it comes to women's health, it's "your body, OUR choice."
> >> >
> >> > Obviously the concept of the life of a fetus being involved in once case
> >> > is beyond your pay grade. Did you forget the word for abortion?
> >> Not everybody considers a fetus to be a person. I certainly don't.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > So then you're OK with abortions right up until delivery then.
> That's a big assumption.
micky
Sep 20, 2023, 9:32:00 PM9/20/23
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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 20 Sep 2023 10:50:33 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
Now you've switched to Homo sapiens. Do you have any doubt a fetus is a
Homo sapiens?
Homo sapiens?
Bob F
Sep 21, 2023, 12:00:54 AM9/21/23
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On 9/20/2023 6:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-09-20, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:34:33 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2023-09-19, alt.home.repair <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 11:08:05 PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 06:15:14 -0400, Ben Verified - ?
>>>>> <ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yah, the GOP has become infiltrated with a bunch of undercover Democrats aka RINOs. Once selected by the tabulators, the RINOs do a 180 and are
>>>>>> as looney as any Demonrat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OTOH, a real Republican would opine the clot shot is optional. Your body, your choice.
>>>>> The Republican position seems to be a bit wobbly.
>>>>>
>>>>> When it comes to certain vaccines, it's "your body, your choice."
>>>>> But when it comes to women's health, it's "your body, OUR choice."
>>>>
>>>> Obviously the concept of the life of a fetus being involved in once case
>>>> is beyond your pay grade. Did you forget the word for abortion?
>>> Not everybody considers a fetus to be a person. I certainly don't.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> So then you're OK with abortions right up until delivery then.
Just more GOP CRAP. Why do they always lie in their comments about
> On 2023-09-20, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:34:33 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2023-09-19, alt.home.repair <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 11:08:05 PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 06:15:14 -0400, Ben Verified - ?
>>>>> <ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yah, the GOP has become infiltrated with a bunch of undercover Democrats aka RINOs. Once selected by the tabulators, the RINOs do a 180 and are
>>>>>> as looney as any Demonrat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OTOH, a real Republican would opine the clot shot is optional. Your body, your choice.
>>>>> The Republican position seems to be a bit wobbly.
>>>>>
>>>>> When it comes to certain vaccines, it's "your body, your choice."
>>>>> But when it comes to women's health, it's "your body, OUR choice."
>>>>
>>>> Obviously the concept of the life of a fetus being involved in once case
>>>> is beyond your pay grade. Did you forget the word for abortion?
>>> Not everybody considers a fetus to be a person. I certainly don't.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> So then you're OK with abortions right up until delivery then.
their opposition?
Name any politicians that publicly supports that, and document your
evidence. Until you do, you are just making up CRAP.
Cindy Hamilton
Sep 21, 2023, 5:15:06 AM9/21/23
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during the 8th week of pregnancy or earlier. The fetus is the size
of a raspberry and looks like a shelled shrimp. It's not a person.
--
Cindy Hamilton
trader_4
Sep 21, 2023, 8:02:52 AM9/21/23
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On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:00:54 AM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
> On 9/20/2023 6:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On 2023-09-20, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:34:33 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> On 2023-09-19, alt.home.repair <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >>>> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 11:08:05 PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
> >>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 06:15:14 -0400, Ben Verified - ?
> >>>>> <ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Yah, the GOP has become infiltrated with a bunch of undercover Democrats aka RINOs. Once selected by the tabulators, the RINOs do a 180 and are
> >>>>>> as looney as any Demonrat.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> OTOH, a real Republican would opine the clot shot is optional. Your body, your choice.
> >>>>> The Republican position seems to be a bit wobbly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When it comes to certain vaccines, it's "your body, your choice."
> >>>>> But when it comes to women's health, it's "your body, OUR choice."
> >>>>
> >>>> Obviously the concept of the life of a fetus being involved in once case
> >>>> is beyond your pay grade. Did you forget the word for abortion?
> >>> Not everybody considers a fetus to be a person. I certainly don't.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >> So then you're OK with abortions right up until delivery then.
> Just more GOP CRAP. Why do they always lie in their comments about
> their opposition?
>
> Name any politicians that publicly supports that, and document your
> evidence. Until you do, you are just making up CRAP.
I was simply asking Cindy a question, since she brought up the concept of
> On 9/20/2023 6:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On 2023-09-20, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:34:33 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> On 2023-09-19, alt.home.repair <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >>>> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 11:08:05 PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
> >>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 06:15:14 -0400, Ben Verified - ?
> >>>>> <ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Yah, the GOP has become infiltrated with a bunch of undercover Democrats aka RINOs. Once selected by the tabulators, the RINOs do a 180 and are
> >>>>>> as looney as any Demonrat.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> OTOH, a real Republican would opine the clot shot is optional. Your body, your choice.
> >>>>> The Republican position seems to be a bit wobbly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When it comes to certain vaccines, it's "your body, your choice."
> >>>>> But when it comes to women's health, it's "your body, OUR choice."
> >>>>
> >>>> Obviously the concept of the life of a fetus being involved in once case
> >>>> is beyond your pay grade. Did you forget the word for abortion?
> >>> Not everybody considers a fetus to be a person. I certainly don't.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >> So then you're OK with abortions right up until delivery then.
> Just more GOP CRAP. Why do they always lie in their comments about
> their opposition?
>
> Name any politicians that publicly supports that, and document your
> evidence. Until you do, you are just making up CRAP.
a fetus apparently needing to be a person to be protected. Since you now appear to
have a problem with late term abortions, give us your number, past what week, should
abortion be restricted? A lot of Republicans can give you their number. DeSantis is
at 6 weeks, many others are at 15. What's your number? And there are states, like
Colorado, where there are no late term limits. We know Republicans have tried to
change that, they would change it, would you?
Cindy Hamilton
Sep 21, 2023, 8:06:25 AM9/21/23
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U.S.? Why are they performed? Details matter.
--
Cindy Hamilton
micky
Sep 21, 2023, 3:09:49 PM9/21/23
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In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 21 Sep 2023 12:06:17 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
Indeed they do.
For the record, although I think it's confusing, "late term abortion"
refers to any time after the "after the 20th week of gestation, i.e.
after a fetal age (time since conception) of about 18 weeks**".
**More confusion: How can one be gestating if he hasn't even been
conceived yet? 20th week iirc refers to the end of the last period.
The exact point when an abortion is considered late-term, however, is
not clearly defined. In three articles published in 1998 in the same
issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), two
chose the 20th week of gestation and one chose the 28th week of
gestation as the point where an abortion procedure would be considered
late-term.
The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists defines a late
term pregnancy as 41 weeks 0 days through 41 weeks 6 days, which differs
from how the term is used in the abortion context -- Not 41 weeks really
is late, and it's great that doctors use an entirely different time for
late than what proponents, opponents, and politicians do.
In the United States, the point at which an abortion becomes late-term
is often related to fetal viability (ability of the fetus to survive
outside the uterus). Thus, late-term abortions are sometimes referred to
as post-viability abortions.
There is no sharp limit of development, age, or weight at which a fetus
becomes viable....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_termination_of_pregnancy
All they (not just wikip) talk about is viability. The wikipedia
article makes no reference to pain or how old they have to be to feel
pain, and what I found when I looked this up 6 or 12 months ago, a few
people apparently decided decades ago that fetuses don't feel pain until
[pretty late] and that pain-killers for the fetus prior to abortion were
of no value since they didn't feel pain. AFAIK there hasn't been any
research on this for decades. Other topics get reviewed more often that
that. When do fetuses feel pain? I ceertainly don't know.
>> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:00:54?AM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
>>> On 9/20/2023 6:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> > On 2023-09-20, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>> On 9/20/2023 6:47 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> > On 2023-09-20, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>> >> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:34:33?AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> >>> On 2023-09-19, alt.home.repair <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>> >>> On 2023-09-19, alt.home.repair <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
For the record, although I think it's confusing, "late term abortion"
refers to any time after the "after the 20th week of gestation, i.e.
after a fetal age (time since conception) of about 18 weeks**".
**More confusion: How can one be gestating if he hasn't even been
conceived yet? 20th week iirc refers to the end of the last period.
The exact point when an abortion is considered late-term, however, is
not clearly defined. In three articles published in 1998 in the same
issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), two
chose the 20th week of gestation and one chose the 28th week of
gestation as the point where an abortion procedure would be considered
late-term.
The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists defines a late
term pregnancy as 41 weeks 0 days through 41 weeks 6 days, which differs
from how the term is used in the abortion context -- Not 41 weeks really
is late, and it's great that doctors use an entirely different time for
late than what proponents, opponents, and politicians do.
In the United States, the point at which an abortion becomes late-term
is often related to fetal viability (ability of the fetus to survive
outside the uterus). Thus, late-term abortions are sometimes referred to
as post-viability abortions.
There is no sharp limit of development, age, or weight at which a fetus
becomes viable....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_termination_of_pregnancy
All they (not just wikip) talk about is viability. The wikipedia
article makes no reference to pain or how old they have to be to feel
pain, and what I found when I looked this up 6 or 12 months ago, a few
people apparently decided decades ago that fetuses don't feel pain until
[pretty late] and that pain-killers for the fetus prior to abortion were
of no value since they didn't feel pain. AFAIK there hasn't been any
research on this for decades. Other topics get reviewed more often that
that. When do fetuses feel pain? I ceertainly don't know.
micky
Sep 21, 2023, 3:11:55 PM9/21/23
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In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 21 Sep 2023 09:14:58 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
why would it be all that matters?
>>> We don't care
>>>what happens to the fetus of an animal that isn't Homo sapiens.
>>
>> Now you've switched to Homo sapiens. Do you have any doubt a fetus is a
>> Homo sapiens?
>
>Definitely H. sapiens. But not a person. Most abortions are done
>during the 8th week of pregnancy or earlier. The fetus is the size
>of a raspberry and looks like a shelled shrimp. It's not a person.
I didn't use the word person either. I dont' see why that is all that
matters.
<hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
>On 2023-09-21, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 20 Sep 2023 10:50:33 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
>><hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2023-09-20, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>>> In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 19 Sep 2023 14:34:26 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
>>>><hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2023-09-19, alt.home.repair <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 11:08:05?PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 06:15:14 -0400, Ben Verified - ?
>>>>>>> <ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >Yah, the GOP has become infiltrated with a bunch of undercover Democrats aka RINOs. Once selected by the tabulators, the RINOs do a 180 and are
>>>>>>> >as looney as any Demonrat.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >OTOH, a real Republican would opine the clot shot is optional. Your body, your choice.
>>>>>>> The Republican position seems to be a bit wobbly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When it comes to certain vaccines, it's "your body, your choice."
>>>>>>> But when it comes to women's health, it's "your body, OUR choice."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously the concept of the life of a fetus being involved in once case
>>>>>> is beyond your pay grade. Did you forget the word for abortion?
>>>>>
>>>>>Not everybody considers a fetus to be a person. I certainly don't.
>>>>
>>>> Trader didn't use the word "person".
>>>
>>>Yet personhood is integral to the abortion debate.
It has been made integral to the abortion debate. And even if integral,
>On 2023-09-21, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 20 Sep 2023 10:50:33 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
>><hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2023-09-20, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>>> In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 19 Sep 2023 14:34:26 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
>>>><hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2023-09-19, alt.home.repair <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 11:08:05?PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 06:15:14 -0400, Ben Verified - ?
>>>>>>> <ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >Yah, the GOP has become infiltrated with a bunch of undercover Democrats aka RINOs. Once selected by the tabulators, the RINOs do a 180 and are
>>>>>>> >as looney as any Demonrat.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >OTOH, a real Republican would opine the clot shot is optional. Your body, your choice.
>>>>>>> The Republican position seems to be a bit wobbly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When it comes to certain vaccines, it's "your body, your choice."
>>>>>>> But when it comes to women's health, it's "your body, OUR choice."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously the concept of the life of a fetus being involved in once case
>>>>>> is beyond your pay grade. Did you forget the word for abortion?
>>>>>
>>>>>Not everybody considers a fetus to be a person. I certainly don't.
>>>>
>>>> Trader didn't use the word "person".
>>>
>>>Yet personhood is integral to the abortion debate.
why would it be all that matters?
>>> We don't care
>>>what happens to the fetus of an animal that isn't Homo sapiens.
>>
>> Now you've switched to Homo sapiens. Do you have any doubt a fetus is a
>> Homo sapiens?
>
>Definitely H. sapiens. But not a person. Most abortions are done
>during the 8th week of pregnancy or earlier. The fetus is the size
>of a raspberry and looks like a shelled shrimp. It's not a person.
matters.
Cindy Hamilton
Sep 21, 2023, 5:05:22 PM9/21/23
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> Indeed they do.
>
> For the record, although I think it's confusing, "late term abortion"
> refers to any time after the "after the 20th week of gestation, i.e.
> after a fetal age (time since conception) of about 18 weeks**".
>
> **More confusion: How can one be gestating if he hasn't even been
> conceived yet? 20th week iirc refers to the end of the last period.
"Because it's impossible to know exactly when conception occurs,
>
> For the record, although I think it's confusing, "late term abortion"
> refers to any time after the "after the 20th week of gestation, i.e.
> after a fetal age (time since conception) of about 18 weeks**".
>
> **More confusion: How can one be gestating if he hasn't even been
> conceived yet? 20th week iirc refers to the end of the last period.
gestational age is measured from the first day of the mother's last
menstrual cycle to the current date. It is measured in weeks."
https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/002398.htm
--
Cindy Hamilton
Bob F
Sep 21, 2023, 7:15:45 PM9/21/23
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personhood is, and impose their religious "standards" on everyone else,
no matter how wacko they are, and how many mothers die because they
cannot get the medical care they need to save their lives.
rbowman
Sep 21, 2023, 7:31:26 PM9/21/23
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 15:09:40 -0400, micky wrote:
> In the United States, the point at which an abortion becomes late-term
> is often related to fetal viability (ability of the fetus to survive
> outside the uterus). Thus, late-term abortions are sometimes referred to
> as post-viability abortions.
Postpartum abortions would be an excellent idea in some cases.
> In the United States, the point at which an abortion becomes late-term
> is often related to fetal viability (ability of the fetus to survive
> outside the uterus). Thus, late-term abortions are sometimes referred to
> as post-viability abortions.
rbowman
Sep 21, 2023, 7:59:41 PM9/21/23
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 16:13:24 -0700, Bob F wrote:
> It is a religious thing. A few religions think they can define what
> personhood is, and impose their religious "standards" on everyone else,
> no matter how wacko they are, and how many mothers die because they
> cannot get the medical care they need to save their lives.
Assuming by 'medical care' you mean abortion, would you like to answer
> It is a religious thing. A few religions think they can define what
> personhood is, and impose their religious "standards" on everyone else,
> no matter how wacko they are, and how many mothers die because they
> cannot get the medical care they need to save their lives.
your own rhetorical question?
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/01/11/what-the-data-says-
about-abortion-in-the-u-s-2/
While the article addresses the deaths for abortion related complications
for both legal and illegal abortions it does not cover how many women died
because they could not get an abortion. I don't know if that metric is
even available.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/woman-died-ireland-abortion-ban-
warning-americans-roe-v-wade-rcna35431
If you have to reach back to a woman in Ireland in 2012 for an example I'm
thinking it is very rare indeed.
Don't get me wrong; I don't care one way or the other but the argument of
mothers dying like flies is disenguous. Actually, looking at the
demographics I might favor free abortion clinics on every corner. It would
save having to wait for fifteen or more years for the gangbangers to kill
each other. Margaret Sanger was on to something.
T
Sep 21, 2023, 11:21:47 PM9/21/23
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to prove that it is okay to viciously butchering
another helpless human being. Coat hanger abortions
is another example.
By the way, there is probably only five people in the
whole country that think abortion is not okay in the
case where the mother's life is being threatened.
It is only morally acceptable to use deadly force against
another human being when that human is threatening
you or someone else with deadly force. If the mother's
life is threatened, then self defense is justified.
Killing another human being for convenience is not.
And all of us on the side that want to stop the blood
running in the streets will gladly compromise on
rape and incest, but the butchers on the left
will have none of it. Their "Rape and Incest"
argument is a cover for genocide.
By the way, the majority of Sanger's human butcher
shops are already in black neighborhoods. Blacks
population is stagnate as a result. Their numbers
are not increasing. And this is not an accident.
It is genocide. And the Left calls those of us
that follow Martin Luther's teachings "racists".
Gag me. No skin head could even imagine the damage
the Left has done to the black community.
The solution to the gang banger is to end the Great
Society and to immediately halt the subsidizing of
fatherless homes. (A few years for a widow is
justified.) You want to screw on the front lawn
like a dog, you take responsibility for the
consequences. Don't saddle the rest of us to
support your stupid behavior.
danny burstein
Sep 21, 2023, 11:25:44 PM9/21/23
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In <uej183$3tu38$1...@dont-email.me> T <T...@invalid.invalid> writes:
[snip of more delusional ranting]
Sorry, "T", but despite all your drooling, a clump
of parasitic cells is not a human being.
[snip of more delusional ranting]
Sorry, "T", but despite all your drooling, a clump
of parasitic cells is not a human being.
Peeler
Sep 22, 2023, 3:34:39 AM9/22/23
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On 21 Sep 2023 23:59:33 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> Assuming by 'medical care' you mean abortion, would you like to answer
> your own rhetorical question?
Assuming that this is just another so very precious moment for you of
hearing yourself talking, wouldn't you finally like to tell us what was your
psychiatrist(s) official diagnosis of your mental disease, you pathological
bigmouth? LOL
--
More of the senile gossip's absolutely idiotic senile blather:
"I stopped for breakfast at a diner in Virginia when the state didn't do
DST. I remarked on the time difference and the crusty old waitress said
'We keep God's time in Virginia.'
I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while."
MID: <t0tjfa$6r5$1...@dont-email.me>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> Assuming by 'medical care' you mean abortion, would you like to answer
> your own rhetorical question?
hearing yourself talking, wouldn't you finally like to tell us what was your
psychiatrist(s) official diagnosis of your mental disease, you pathological
bigmouth? LOL
--
More of the senile gossip's absolutely idiotic senile blather:
"I stopped for breakfast at a diner in Virginia when the state didn't do
DST. I remarked on the time difference and the crusty old waitress said
'We keep God's time in Virginia.'
I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while."
MID: <t0tjfa$6r5$1...@dont-email.me>
Peeler
Sep 22, 2023, 3:36:41 AM9/22/23
to
On 21 Sep 2023 23:31:18 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
abnormal bigmouth.
--
Yet another thrilling account from the resident senile superhero's senile
life:
"I went to a Driveby Truckers concert at a local venue and they made me
leave my knife in the car. Never went back. Come to think of it the Truckers
had a Black Lives Matter banner. Never bought any of their music again
either."
MID: <k84ip9...@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> Postpartum abortions would be an excellent idea in some cases.
For me it would be enough if they just knew how to abort your mouth, you
abnormal bigmouth.
--
Yet another thrilling account from the resident senile superhero's senile
life:
"I went to a Driveby Truckers concert at a local venue and they made me
leave my knife in the car. Never went back. Come to think of it the Truckers
had a Black Lives Matter banner. Never bought any of their music again
either."
MID: <k84ip9...@mid.individual.net>
Phuck Phuck & Phuck Attn at Law
Sep 22, 2023, 5:11:46 AM9/22/23
to
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 6:53:04 AM UTC-4, Ben Verified - ✅ wrote:
> General Flynn Asserts He Will Not Comply with the COVID Hysteria Being Pushed by Biden Regime and Corporate Media
>
> General Michael Flynn has openly refused to comply with the Biden regime’s looming COVID-19 restrictions. This comes as the Biden regime is
> reportedly preparing to reinstate full COVID-19 lockdowns, beginning with masking mandates for TSA and airport employees as early as
> mid-September, as reported by The Gateway Pundit citing Infowars.
>
> It can be recalled that a high-level TSA official reached out to Alex Jones of Infowars, detailing a meeting where TSA managers were informed of
> new memorandums and policies that would reimplement mask-wearing.
>
> These policies will reinstate the mask mandate for TSA and airport employees starting mid-September.
>
> According to the TSA official, further details on how the policy will escalate will be provided the coming weeks.
>
> The official added that by mid-October, mask-wearing will be mandated for pilots, flight staff, passengers, and all airport patrons.
>
>
> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/general-flynn-refuses-comply-covid-hysteria-being-pushed/
>
>
> The dictator Democrats are at it again.
Combatant domestic terrorists. Kidnap rape torture murder. We need more guns less Democrats
> General Flynn Asserts He Will Not Comply with the COVID Hysteria Being Pushed by Biden Regime and Corporate Media
>
> General Michael Flynn has openly refused to comply with the Biden regime’s looming COVID-19 restrictions. This comes as the Biden regime is
> reportedly preparing to reinstate full COVID-19 lockdowns, beginning with masking mandates for TSA and airport employees as early as
> mid-September, as reported by The Gateway Pundit citing Infowars.
>
> It can be recalled that a high-level TSA official reached out to Alex Jones of Infowars, detailing a meeting where TSA managers were informed of
> new memorandums and policies that would reimplement mask-wearing.
>
> These policies will reinstate the mask mandate for TSA and airport employees starting mid-September.
>
> According to the TSA official, further details on how the policy will escalate will be provided the coming weeks.
>
> The official added that by mid-October, mask-wearing will be mandated for pilots, flight staff, passengers, and all airport patrons.
>
>
> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/general-flynn-refuses-comply-covid-hysteria-being-pushed/
>
>
> The dictator Democrats are at it again.
Combatant domestic terrorists. Kidnap rape torture murder. We need more guns less Democrats
Phuck Phuck & Phuck Attn at Law
Sep 22, 2023, 5:17:24 AM9/22/23
to
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 9:34:07 AM UTC-4, danny burstein wrote:
> In <17855b9ffa697c6d$1$954734$3aa1...@news.newsdemon.com> =?UTF-8?Q?Ben_Verified_-_=e2=9c=85?= <ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> writes:
>
> [snip]
>
> Hey, anonymous troller. Instead of you just being another sheep
> in your Denialist DEATH CULT, I'll give you a chance to show your
> colleagues, in the words of Robert Vaughn, that You Mean Business.
>
> Just kick us contact info and I'll spot you a one way (that's all
> you'll need) ticket to the Koresh compound in Waco, TX. You know,
> the city your False Messiah held that rally.
>
> Or, if you prefer, I'll kikc you a similar ticket to Ranch Sante Fe,
> along with the directions to Applewhite's group. (The Nike Sneakers
> are on you dime). Of course, if you choose option #2, we'll want
> to see proof you got the medical procedure first.
>
> Sorry, but Jonestown and Kenya are too high for my budget.
>
> So c'mon and Fulfill Your Destiny. Or are you a coward?
> In <17855b9ffa697c6d$1$954734$3aa1...@news.newsdemon.com> =?UTF-8?Q?Ben_Verified_-_=e2=9c=85?= <ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> writes:
>
> [snip]
>
> Hey, anonymous troller. Instead of you just being another sheep
> in your Denialist DEATH CULT, I'll give you a chance to show your
> colleagues, in the words of Robert Vaughn, that You Mean Business.
>
> Just kick us contact info and I'll spot you a one way (that's all
> you'll need) ticket to the Koresh compound in Waco, TX. You know,
> the city your False Messiah held that rally.
>
> Or, if you prefer, I'll kikc you a similar ticket to Ranch Sante Fe,
> along with the directions to Applewhite's group. (The Nike Sneakers
> are on you dime). Of course, if you choose option #2, we'll want
> to see proof you got the medical procedure first.
>
> Sorry, but Jonestown and Kenya are too high for my budget.
>
> So c'mon and Fulfill Your Destiny. Or are you a coward?
>
>
> --
> _____________________________________________________
> Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
> dan...@panix.com
> [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
Combatant domestic terrorist coward those were my friends in Waco I met with my x friend Texas governor Ann Richards who I think helped them stockpile with Janet Reno. I caught Reno's spy vandalizing a building in 1981 near the Surfside collapse. The spy was at the Miami Dade Courthouse when I went to testify and disappeared later that year in Tijuana never to be seen again. Only remembered where in the world is Carmen San Diego
>
> --
> _____________________________________________________
> Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
> dan...@panix.com
> [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
Ben Verified - ✅
Sep 22, 2023, 6:43:42 AM9/22/23
to
danny burstein wrote:
> In <uej183$3tu38$1...@dont-email.me> T <T...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>
> [snip of more delusional ranting]
>
> Sorry, "T", but despite all your drooling, a clump
> of parasitic cells is not a human being.
>
>
And yet the "parasitic cells" never seem to form into a unicorn.
> In <uej183$3tu38$1...@dont-email.me> T <T...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>
> [snip of more delusional ranting]
>
> Sorry, "T", but despite all your drooling, a clump
> of parasitic cells is not a human being.
>
>
T
Sep 22, 2023, 2:50:30 PM9/22/23
to
to ask you for the car keys in a few years.
Can't wait for Danny to become dependent on others
who cant want to declare him a group of parasitic
cells and decide to cut his head off with scissors.
Maybe if he self identifies as a unicorn, the
democrats will protect him?
Odd how a bunch of parasitic cells, given about 80
years, will suddenly vote Democrat for eternity.
trader_4
Sep 25, 2023, 9:15:24 AM9/25/23
to
rid of a pregnancy as if it's just a turnip, right up until delivery. For some
reason they don't want US born babies, but instead have open border
policies to flood the country with third world unvetted people of all ages.
And then when they get here, they won't allow them to work, so the tax
payers have to support them. When Trump gets re-elected, don't say
you were not warned.
trader_4
Sep 25, 2023, 9:23:21 AM9/25/23
to
Welker on Meet the Press? Questioned about abortion, he said he would sit
down with both sides and pick a number and it will all be settled, that
there would be agreement and peace on abortion that we have not had in fifty
years on the issue. Pressed for what his number is, he refused to answer.
But he did say that De Santis's 6 weeks numbers is wrong and awful.
Pressed as to whether this should be a federal law or left to the states,
Trump said he didn't care. Which obviously is totally contradictory to the
claim he made just two minutes previously, where he said he would arrive
at a number to settle the issue for all. If it's up to the states, that's impossible.
But we know it's impossible anyway, it's all just more BS from the master
con artist. The bottom line here is that abortion, like everything else, only
matters to Trump to the extent of whether it gets him elected and what he
needs to say to keep people fooled.
Cindy Hamilton
Sep 25, 2023, 9:32:01 AM9/25/23
to
On 2023-09-25, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> Seems to me it's a convenience thing for Democrats that want to get
> rid of a pregnancy as if it's just a turnip, right up until delivery.
Can you provide an estimate of the number of Democrats who think
>
> Seems to me it's a convenience thing for Democrats that want to get
> rid of a pregnancy as if it's just a turnip, right up until delivery.
abortion right up to delivery is ok?
> For some
> reason they don't want US born babies,
> but instead have open border
> policies to flood the country with third world unvetted people of all ages.
39% of democrats say it's a major problem. Only 7% of them say
it's not a problem, compared with 5% of Republicans. That's within
the margin of error on this poll:
file:///home/hamilton/Downloads/Immigration%20Concern.pdf
> And then when they get here, they won't allow them to work, so the tax
> payers have to support them. When Trump gets re-elected, don't say
> you were not warned.
39% of all adults think it's a crisis.
--
Cindy Hamilton
Bob F
Sep 25, 2023, 10:25:33 AM9/25/23
to
"open borders", telling them again and again to hurry on up.
rbowman
Sep 25, 2023, 12:28:54 PM9/25/23
to
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 13:31:52 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Nope. Not open border policies. 17% of Democrats say its a crisis;
> 39% of democrats say it's a major problem. Only 7% of them say
> it's not a problem, compared with 5% of Republicans. That's within
> the margin of error on this poll:
> file:///home/hamilton/Downloads/Immigration%20Concern.pdf
Somehow my DNS server can't resolve 'file'. Are you using Linux? Good for you.
> Nope. Not open border policies. 17% of Democrats say its a crisis;
> 39% of democrats say it's a major problem. Only 7% of them say
> it's not a problem, compared with 5% of Republicans. That's within
> the margin of error on this poll:
> file:///home/hamilton/Downloads/Immigration%20Concern.pdf
Scott Lurndal
Sep 25, 2023, 12:40:07 PM9/25/23
to
Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> writes:
>On 2023-09-25, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> Seems to me it's a convenience thing for Democrats that want to get
>> rid of a pregnancy as if it's just a turnip, right up until delivery.
>
>Can you provide an estimate of the number of Democrats who think
>abortion right up to delivery is ok?
>
>> For some
>> reason they don't want US born babies,
>
>US born babies are fine. Where do you get these odd ideas?
Sometimes trader goes off the deep end. This is one of them.
>On 2023-09-25, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> Seems to me it's a convenience thing for Democrats that want to get
>> rid of a pregnancy as if it's just a turnip, right up until delivery.
>
>Can you provide an estimate of the number of Democrats who think
>abortion right up to delivery is ok?
>
>> For some
>> reason they don't want US born babies,
>
>US born babies are fine. Where do you get these odd ideas?
Peeler
Sep 25, 2023, 1:45:12 PM9/25/23
to
On 25 Sep 2023 16:28:46 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
of your "cool" lines. <VBG>
--
Another one of the resident senile bigmouth's idiotic "cool" lines:
"If you're an ax murderer don't leave souvenir photos on your phone."
"MID: <k7ssc7...@mid.individual.net>"
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
>> Nope. Not open border policies. 17% of Democrats say its a crisis;
>> 39% of democrats say it's a major problem. Only 7% of them say
>> it's not a problem, compared with 5% of Republicans. That's within
>> the margin of error on this poll:
>> file:///home/hamilton/Downloads/Immigration%20Concern.pdf
>
> Somehow my DNS server can't resolve 'file'. Are you using Linux? Good for you.
See, her botched link allowed you nevertheless to top post yet another one
>> 39% of democrats say it's a major problem. Only 7% of them say
>> it's not a problem, compared with 5% of Republicans. That's within
>> the margin of error on this poll:
>> file:///home/hamilton/Downloads/Immigration%20Concern.pdf
>
> Somehow my DNS server can't resolve 'file'. Are you using Linux? Good for you.
of your "cool" lines. <VBG>
--
Another one of the resident senile bigmouth's idiotic "cool" lines:
"If you're an ax murderer don't leave souvenir photos on your phone."
"MID: <k7ssc7...@mid.individual.net>"
Cindy Hamilton
Sep 25, 2023, 5:06:24 PM9/25/23
to
even notice that.
Ah, here we go:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/508565/plurality-say-southern-border-situation-crisis.aspx
The link to the PDF file with the questions and so forth is near
the bottom of the page.
--
Cindy Hamilton
Bob F
Sep 25, 2023, 5:28:49 PM9/25/23
to
On 9/25/2023 6:31 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-09-25, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> Seems to me it's a convenience thing for Democrats that want to get
>> rid of a pregnancy as if it's just a turnip, right up until delivery.
>
> Can you provide an estimate of the number of Democrats who think
> abortion right up to delivery is ok?
>
>> For some
>> reason they don't want US born babies,
>
> US born babies are fine. Where do you get these odd ideas?
>
>> but instead have open border
>> policies to flood the country with third world unvetted people of all ages.
>
> Nope. Not open border policies. 17% of Democrats say its a crisis;
> 39% of democrats say it's a major problem. Only 7% of them say
> it's not a problem, compared with 5% of Republicans. That's within
> the margin of error on this poll:
> file:///home/hamilton/Downloads/Immigration%20Concern.pdf
And only right wing Republicon wackos yell to the world the lie that
>>
>> Seems to me it's a convenience thing for Democrats that want to get
>> rid of a pregnancy as if it's just a turnip, right up until delivery.
>
> Can you provide an estimate of the number of Democrats who think
> abortion right up to delivery is ok?
>
>> For some
>> reason they don't want US born babies,
>
> US born babies are fine. Where do you get these odd ideas?
>
>> but instead have open border
>> policies to flood the country with third world unvetted people of all ages.
>
> Nope. Not open border policies. 17% of Democrats say its a crisis;
> 39% of democrats say it's a major problem. Only 7% of them say
> it's not a problem, compared with 5% of Republicans. That's within
> the margin of error on this poll:
> file:///home/hamilton/Downloads/Immigration%20Concern.pdf
America's border is OPEN.
rbowman
Sep 25, 2023, 7:36:27 PM9/25/23
to
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:26:20 -0700, Bob F wrote:
> And only right wing Republicon wackos yell to the world the lie that
> America's border is OPEN.
And some cannot appreciate the subtleties of 'de jure' and 'de facto'.
> And only right wing Republicon wackos yell to the world the lie that
> America's border is OPEN.
Skid Marks
Sep 25, 2023, 8:26:22 PM9/25/23
to
Bob F wrote:
>
> And only right wing Republicon wackos yell to the world the lie that America's border is OPEN.
>
The US border is officially closed...it's just that the libtard demonrats moved it to Cape Horn.
>
> And only right wing Republicon wackos yell to the world the lie that America's border is OPEN.
>
Peeler
Sep 26, 2023, 3:37:16 AM9/26/23
to
On 25 Sep 2023 23:36:19 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
--
More of the pathological senile gossip's sick shit squeezed out of his sick
head:
"Skunk probably tastes like chicken. I've never gotten that comparison,
most famously with Chicken of the Sea. Tuna is a fish and tastes like a
fish. I will admit I've had chicken that tasted like fish. I don't think I
want to know what they were feeding it."
MID: <k44t5l...@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> And some cannot appreciate the subtleties of 'de jure' and 'de facto'.
And some still cannot see how MUCH you love to hear yourself talking. LOL
--
More of the pathological senile gossip's sick shit squeezed out of his sick
head:
"Skunk probably tastes like chicken. I've never gotten that comparison,
most famously with Chicken of the Sea. Tuna is a fish and tastes like a
fish. I will admit I've had chicken that tasted like fish. I don't think I
want to know what they were feeding it."
MID: <k44t5l...@mid.individual.net>
micky
Sep 26, 2023, 11:36:18 PM9/26/23
to
In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 25 Sep 2023 07:23:04 -0700, Bob F
Absolutely right. If anyone in Latin American who is unhappy where he
is could read the false description that Trader wrote, he'd be
encouraged to come here. Trader doesn't have a blog or a podcast afaik
but he's doing what he can to encourage illegal immigration, and to get
all these people to hurry up while it's open (acc to him).
Congratulations, Trader.
is could read the false description that Trader wrote, he'd be
encouraged to come here. Trader doesn't have a blog or a podcast afaik
but he's doing what he can to encourage illegal immigration, and to get
all these people to hurry up while it's open (acc to him).
Congratulations, Trader.
trader_4
Sep 27, 2023, 11:43:21 AM9/27/23
to
On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:32:01 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-09-25, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >
> > Seems to me it's a convenience thing for Democrats that want to get
> > rid of a pregnancy as if it's just a turnip, right up until delivery.
> Can you provide an estimate of the number of Democrats who think
> abortion right up to delivery is ok?
> > For some
> > reason they don't want US born babies,
> US born babies are fine. Where do you get these odd ideas?
> > but instead have open border
> > policies to flood the country with third world unvetted people of all ages.
> Nope. Not open border policies. 17% of Democrats say its a crisis;
> 39% of democrats say it's a major problem. Only 7% of them say
> it's not a problem, compared with 5% of Republicans.
And yet you come here and tell us what a great job Biden is doing. We didn't
> On 2023-09-25, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >
> > Seems to me it's a convenience thing for Democrats that want to get
> > rid of a pregnancy as if it's just a turnip, right up until delivery.
> Can you provide an estimate of the number of Democrats who think
> abortion right up to delivery is ok?
> > For some
> > reason they don't want US born babies,
> US born babies are fine. Where do you get these odd ideas?
> > but instead have open border
> > policies to flood the country with third world unvetted people of all ages.
> Nope. Not open border policies. 17% of Democrats say its a crisis;
> 39% of democrats say it's a major problem. Only 7% of them say
> it's not a problem, compared with 5% of Republicans.
have anything like this when Trump was in office and it's obvious that Biden
isn't doing anything to stop it. It's getting worse. 2.4 million so far this year,
10K a day are pouring in, videos of trains coming from Mexico, people piled
all over them. And now they are increasingly coming from Africa. I asked why
doesn't Soros just charter 747s and bring them here from every third world
country? Looks like people in Africa have figured it out themselves. And
what's Biden doing about it? When has he addressed the country, fessed up
that it's a "major problem" and outlined what he's going to do to fix it. And
no, buying street lights for Honduras and putting Harris in charge isn't the solution.
That's within
> the margin of error on this poll:
> file:///home/hamilton/Downloads/Immigration%20Concern.pdf
> > And then when they get here, they won't allow them to work, so the tax
> > payers have to support them. When Trump gets re-elected, don't say
> > you were not warned.
> People don't really care that much about your issue. Sorry. Only
> 39% of all adults think it's a crisis.
And 39% of adults say that it's a crisis, but that's "not caring much"?
The DEMOCRAT mayor of NYC said last week that this will destroy NYC. Polls
show two thirds of people disapprove of Biden's handling of immigration.
It's like you Democrats are living in an alternate universe, with alternate facts.
The Democrats are steaming straight toward the re-election of Trump.
>
> --
> Cindy Hamilton
trader_4
Sep 27, 2023, 11:49:08 AM9/27/23
to
trains loaded with people, watch the videos of all the illegals being put
up in hotels in NYC. We have these things called cell phones, where
Jose calls back and tells his friend and family that he's in a hotel in NYC,
getting free meals, free medical care, you can come too. This BS is like
blaming the guy for yelling fire, for
creating it. It's the DEMOCRATS with their open border policies. Welcome
anyone in, hell there was video of Biden's border agents cutting barbed
wire to make it easy for them. Then you've had sanctuary cities and states
for decades, that's not enticing them? Even that dopey Democrat mayor
of NYC has said that this will destroy NYC and he's been begging Biden for
help. Hochel went to the WH, Biden refused to meet with her. That's some
great leadership. Get ready for Trump in 2025.
trader_4
Sep 27, 2023, 12:02:46 PM9/27/23
to
currently in hotels getting free meals and healthcare, something most
Americans don't get. And stop being prejudiced. Latinos aren't stupid.
They have TVs, they have cell phones. They don't need me to tell them
what's going on, they can see it on the news, they get calls from their
friends and relatives now living in hotels for free, getting three meals a
day of their choice of ethnic food, getting free healthcare, in one of the
most expensive cities in the world! Come on up! You have the balls to
claim I'm enticing them? It's Democrats that put in place sanctuary cities,
sanctuary states. Republicans opposed it all. Democrats called ICE agents
thugs and said they would not cooperate with them. What message does that
send to the people in the third world countries? They are on CNN, CBS,
Latin news networks, not me. And if all this collectively doesn't amount
to open borders, you tell us what words you libs would like to call this
epic cluster fuck?
And when's the last time you saw old feeble Joe address the nation about
this? Tell them what he's going to do? The answer is, he never has. He's
too busy joining strikers on a picket line. Strikers that rejected a 20% pay
increase, they want 40% and to only work 4 days for it instead of 5. That's
another new low for a president, taking sides in a labor dispute.
e'd be
> encouraged to come here. Trader doesn't have a blog or a podcast afaik
> but he's doing what he can to encourage illegal immigration, and to get
> all these people to hurry up while it's open (acc to him).
> Congratulations, Trader.
actively trying to destroy it. Two thirds of Americans now say they disapprove
of Biden's handling of immigration and you're pointing the finger at me? You're
going to wind up with Trump again and then you'll claim you can't understand why.
micky
Sep 27, 2023, 10:35:00 PM9/27/23
to
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Sep 2023 08:43:16 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
<tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:32:01?AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-09-25, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Seems to me it's a convenience thing for Democrats that want to get
>> > rid of a pregnancy as if it's just a turnip, right up until delivery.
>> Can you provide an estimate of the number of Democrats who think
>> abortion right up to delivery is ok?
>> > For some
>> > reason they don't want US born babies,
>> US born babies are fine. Where do you get these odd ideas?
>> > but instead have open border
>> > policies to flood the country with third world unvetted people of all ages.
>> Nope. Not open border policies. 17% of Democrats say its a crisis;
>> 39% of democrats say it's a major problem. Only 7% of them say
>> it's not a problem, compared with 5% of Republicans.
>
>And yet you come here and tell us what a great job Biden is doing. We didn't
The border is only one issue out of 100.
>have anything like this when Trump was in office
Nothing exactly like this, but two score of other bad policies.
I think it's tomorrow that a hearing will ask quesitons about the
"family separation" policy at the border. That's a euphemism for baby
and child stealing that trump implemented.
>and it's obvious that Biden
>isn't doing anything to stop it. It's getting worse. 2.4 million so far this year,
>10K a day are pouring in, videos of trains coming from Mexico, people piled
>all over them. And now they are increasingly coming from Africa. I asked why
>doesn't Soros just charter 747s and bring them here from every third world
>country? Looks like people in Africa have figured it out themselves. And
>what's Biden doing about it? When has he addressed the country, fessed up
>that it's a "major problem" and outlined what he's going to do to fix it. And
>no, buying street lights for Honduras and putting Harris in charge isn't the solution.
This seems to be the only thing you care about. You should a) bear in
mind that you don't know how to solve the problem either, b) that you
yourself like those who agree with you have have made the problem worse
by telling potential migrants that the border is "OPEN" when it's not,
and c) judge Biden on the other 99 issues he's had to deal with too.
> That's within
>> the margin of error on this poll:
>> file:///home/hamilton/Downloads/Immigration%20Concern.pdf
>> > And then when they get here, they won't allow them to work, so the tax
>> > payers have to support them. When Trump gets re-elected, don't say
>> > you were not warned.
>> People don't really care that much about your issue. Sorry. Only
>> 39% of all adults think it's a crisis.
>
>Say what? You just said that 39% of Democrats alone say it's a major problem.
>And 39% of adults say that it's a crisis, but that's "not caring much"?
>The DEMOCRATic mayor of NYC said last week that this will destroy NYC. Polls
<tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:32:01?AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-09-25, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Seems to me it's a convenience thing for Democrats that want to get
>> > rid of a pregnancy as if it's just a turnip, right up until delivery.
>> Can you provide an estimate of the number of Democrats who think
>> abortion right up to delivery is ok?
>> > For some
>> > reason they don't want US born babies,
>> US born babies are fine. Where do you get these odd ideas?
>> > but instead have open border
>> > policies to flood the country with third world unvetted people of all ages.
>> Nope. Not open border policies. 17% of Democrats say its a crisis;
>> 39% of democrats say it's a major problem. Only 7% of them say
>> it's not a problem, compared with 5% of Republicans.
>
>And yet you come here and tell us what a great job Biden is doing. We didn't
>have anything like this when Trump was in office
I think it's tomorrow that a hearing will ask quesitons about the
"family separation" policy at the border. That's a euphemism for baby
and child stealing that trump implemented.
>and it's obvious that Biden
>isn't doing anything to stop it. It's getting worse. 2.4 million so far this year,
>10K a day are pouring in, videos of trains coming from Mexico, people piled
>all over them. And now they are increasingly coming from Africa. I asked why
>doesn't Soros just charter 747s and bring them here from every third world
>country? Looks like people in Africa have figured it out themselves. And
>what's Biden doing about it? When has he addressed the country, fessed up
>that it's a "major problem" and outlined what he's going to do to fix it. And
>no, buying street lights for Honduras and putting Harris in charge isn't the solution.
mind that you don't know how to solve the problem either, b) that you
yourself like those who agree with you have have made the problem worse
by telling potential migrants that the border is "OPEN" when it's not,
and c) judge Biden on the other 99 issues he's had to deal with too.
> That's within
>> the margin of error on this poll:
>> file:///home/hamilton/Downloads/Immigration%20Concern.pdf
>> > And then when they get here, they won't allow them to work, so the tax
>> > payers have to support them. When Trump gets re-elected, don't say
>> > you were not warned.
>> People don't really care that much about your issue. Sorry. Only
>> 39% of all adults think it's a crisis.
>
>Say what? You just said that 39% of Democrats alone say it's a major problem.
>And 39% of adults say that it's a crisis, but that's "not caring much"?
trader_4
Sep 28, 2023, 10:51:00 AM9/28/23
to
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:35:00 PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Sep 2023 08:43:16 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:32:01?AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On 2023-09-25, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Seems to me it's a convenience thing for Democrats that want to get
> >> > rid of a pregnancy as if it's just a turnip, right up until delivery.
> >> Can you provide an estimate of the number of Democrats who think
> >> abortion right up to delivery is ok?
> >> > For some
> >> > reason they don't want US born babies,
> >> US born babies are fine. Where do you get these odd ideas?
> >> > but instead have open border
> >> > policies to flood the country with third world unvetted people of all ages.
> >> Nope. Not open border policies. 17% of Democrats say its a crisis;
> >> 39% of democrats say it's a major problem. Only 7% of them say
> >> it's not a problem, compared with 5% of Republicans.
> >
> >And yet you come here and tell us what a great job Biden is doing. We didn't
> The border is only one issue out of 100.
ROFL. It's consistently one of the top issues for voters, a lot closer to number 1
> In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Sep 2023 08:43:16 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:32:01?AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On 2023-09-25, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Seems to me it's a convenience thing for Democrats that want to get
> >> > rid of a pregnancy as if it's just a turnip, right up until delivery.
> >> Can you provide an estimate of the number of Democrats who think
> >> abortion right up to delivery is ok?
> >> > For some
> >> > reason they don't want US born babies,
> >> US born babies are fine. Where do you get these odd ideas?
> >> > but instead have open border
> >> > policies to flood the country with third world unvetted people of all ages.
> >> Nope. Not open border policies. 17% of Democrats say its a crisis;
> >> 39% of democrats say it's a major problem. Only 7% of them say
> >> it's not a problem, compared with 5% of Republicans.
> >
> >And yet you come here and tell us what a great job Biden is doing. We didn't
> The border is only one issue out of 100.
than number 100. But be like Biden, ignores the rocks ahead.
> >have anything like this when Trump was in office
> Nothing exactly like this, but two score of other bad policies.
>
> I think it's tomorrow that a hearing will ask quesitons about the
> "family separation" policy at the border. That's a euphemism for baby
> and child stealing that trump implemented.
> >and it's obvious that Biden
> >isn't doing anything to stop it. It's getting worse. 2.4 million so far this year,
> >10K a day are pouring in, videos of trains coming from Mexico, people piled
> >all over them. And now they are increasingly coming from Africa. I asked why
> >doesn't Soros just charter 747s and bring them here from every third world
> >country? Looks like people in Africa have figured it out themselves. And
> >what's Biden doing about it? When has he addressed the country, fessed up
> >that it's a "major problem" and outlined what he's going to do to fix it. And
> >no, buying street lights for Honduras and putting Harris in charge isn't the solution.
> This seems to be the only thing you care about.
You should a) bear in
> mind that you don't know how to solve the problem either,
removing barbed wire to welcome in more. Go back to Trump's policies to
start, they were working. Have a president who tells them to stay the hell
away. And a president who addresses the American people, puts forth a
plan to end this cluster fuck. Start with reforming the asylum laws to make
it clear that just living in a third world country isn't grounds for asylum. That
if there is crime and gangs in some areas of a country, but others are safe,
then you can't use that as a claim. Require all asylum claims to be entered
and adjudicated BEFORE you arrive in the USA. If you enter illegally, you are
barred from asylum or applying for legal entry for ten years. If you do it
again, you get a year in jail and are barred for life. End sanctuary cities and
states, require local law enforcement to cooperate with ICE. You know, all
the common sense things that Republicans have been telling you now for
years.
b) that you
> yourself like those who agree with you have have made the problem worse
> by telling potential migrants that the border is "OPEN" when it's not,
> and c) judge Biden on the other 99 issues he's had to deal with too.
guy who yells fire when the house is burning down for starting the fire. They
don't need to hear it from me. They hear it from friends, family already here.
"Heh, were in NYC, free hotel, free food, free medical care, free education,
even free college". Similar messaging from the Democrat run sanctuary cities
and states. Those in other countries have TV, radio, they see the hoardes
coming and they see the libs like you enabling them, encouraging them.
But keep it up, you'll have Trump back again. The immigration crisis is only one
of a hundred voter issues? That's true, but it's near the top. Only 20% say they are
satisfied with Biden's handling of immigration. The economy/inflation, crime,
high gas prices are top issues and a whopping 74% of all voters say that Biden's
age and fitness are a concern. So Democrats are relying on abortion and mainly
the opponent being Trump. I wouldn't
count on it. Polls consistently show it's dead even between Biden and Trump.
Biden won by 4.5% last time. An ABC poll just showed Trump winning by 9%.
That's stunning when the opponent is indicted and facing three criminal cases.
Clearly the Democrats need to dump Biden, but they are paralyzed and even worse,
they have no alternates in the wings.
Cindy Hamilton
Sep 28, 2023, 12:52:46 PM9/28/23
to
On 2023-09-28, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> ROFL. It's consistently one of the top issues for voters, a lot closer to number 1
> than number 100. But be like Biden, ignores the rocks ahead.
#9 out of 16. Of much more concern to Republicans (70%) than Democrats
>
> ROFL. It's consistently one of the top issues for voters, a lot closer to number 1
> than number 100. But be like Biden, ignores the rocks ahead.
(25%).
Everybody has their priorities. Democrats are more worried about health
care affordability and gun violence. Republicans are more worried about
the budget deficit and the state of moral values. Everybody's worried
about the state of education (although probably for different reasons)
and the ability of Dems and Republicans to work together.
As you might expect, Republicans are more worried about everything than
Democrats are, since the world is changing and they feel left behind.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/06/21/inflation-health-costs-partisan-cooperation-among-the-nations-top-problems/
You're never going to get everybody on board with your concerns.
--
Cindy Hamilton
micky
Sep 28, 2023, 3:17:39 PM9/28/23
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In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Sep 2023 07:50:55 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
<tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:35:00?PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Sep 2023 08:43:16 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
>> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:32:01?AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >> On 2023-09-25, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Seems to me it's a convenience thing for Democrats that want to get
>> >> > rid of a pregnancy as if it's just a turnip, right up until delivery.
>> >> Can you provide an estimate of the number of Democrats who think
>> >> abortion right up to delivery is ok?
>> >> > For some
>> >> > reason they don't want US born babies,
>> >> US born babies are fine. Where do you get these odd ideas?
>> >> > but instead have open border
>> >> > policies to flood the country with third world unvetted people of all ages.
>> >> Nope. Not open border policies. 17% of Democrats say its a crisis;
>> >> 39% of democrats say it's a major problem. Only 7% of them say
>> >> it's not a problem, compared with 5% of Republicans.
>> >
>> >And yet you come here and tell us what a great job Biden is doing. We didn't
>> The border is only one issue out of 100.
>
>ROFL. It's consistently one of the top issues for voters,
For some it's a real issue but for most it's largely because Republican
pols rile their members up about it.
> a lot closer to number 1
>than number 100.
I understand that maybe you can't remember its ranking -- I very often
forget such things -- but it's still artfully phrased. 30 is a lot
closer to 1 than to 100. And Cindy says #9 out of 16. Hey, isn't 9
more than half, so that's like 56 out of 100. closer to 100 than 1.
> But be like Biden, ignores the rocks ahead.
You try to slip in these falsehoods. I'm sure he's not ignoring
anything and YOU don't know otherwise. That he doesn't do what you want
doesn't mean he's ignoring something.
>> >have anything like this when Trump was in office
>> Nothing exactly like this, but two score of other bad policies.
>
>So other bad, stupid things become excuses for the next guy to do it too?
Stupid is your word. He has done little if anything that is stuipid.
proven you don't know how to solve the problem either because if you did
you would have said so here.
<tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:35:00?PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Sep 2023 08:43:16 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
>> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:32:01?AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >> On 2023-09-25, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Seems to me it's a convenience thing for Democrats that want to get
>> >> > rid of a pregnancy as if it's just a turnip, right up until delivery.
>> >> Can you provide an estimate of the number of Democrats who think
>> >> abortion right up to delivery is ok?
>> >> > For some
>> >> > reason they don't want US born babies,
>> >> US born babies are fine. Where do you get these odd ideas?
>> >> > but instead have open border
>> >> > policies to flood the country with third world unvetted people of all ages.
>> >> Nope. Not open border policies. 17% of Democrats say its a crisis;
>> >> 39% of democrats say it's a major problem. Only 7% of them say
>> >> it's not a problem, compared with 5% of Republicans.
>> >
>> >And yet you come here and tell us what a great job Biden is doing. We didn't
>> The border is only one issue out of 100.
>
>ROFL. It's consistently one of the top issues for voters,
pols rile their members up about it.
> a lot closer to number 1
>than number 100.
forget such things -- but it's still artfully phrased. 30 is a lot
closer to 1 than to 100. And Cindy says #9 out of 16. Hey, isn't 9
more than half, so that's like 56 out of 100. closer to 100 than 1.
> But be like Biden, ignores the rocks ahead.
anything and YOU don't know otherwise. That he doesn't do what you want
doesn't mean he's ignoring something.
>> >have anything like this when Trump was in office
>> Nothing exactly like this, but two score of other bad policies.
>
>So other bad, stupid things become excuses for the next guy to do it too?
>
>>
>> I think it's tomorrow that a hearing will ask quesitons about the
>> "family separation" policy at the border. That's a euphemism for baby
>> and child stealing that trump implemented.
>> >and it's obvious that Biden
>> >isn't doing anything to stop it. It's getting worse. 2.4 million so far this year,
>> >10K a day are pouring in, videos of trains coming from Mexico, people piled
>> >all over them. And now they are increasingly coming from Africa. I asked why
>> >doesn't Soros just charter 747s and bring them here from every third world
>> >country? Looks like people in Africa have figured it out themselves. And
>> >what's Biden doing about it? When has he addressed the country, fessed up
>> >that it's a "major problem" and outlined what he's going to do to fix it. And
>> >no, buying street lights for Honduras and putting Harris in charge isn't the solution.
>> This seems to be the only thing you care about.
>
>That's obviously BS.
I don't think one person can judge what is obvious to someone else.
>>
>> I think it's tomorrow that a hearing will ask quesitons about the
>> "family separation" policy at the border. That's a euphemism for baby
>> and child stealing that trump implemented.
>> >and it's obvious that Biden
>> >isn't doing anything to stop it. It's getting worse. 2.4 million so far this year,
>> >10K a day are pouring in, videos of trains coming from Mexico, people piled
>> >all over them. And now they are increasingly coming from Africa. I asked why
>> >doesn't Soros just charter 747s and bring them here from every third world
>> >country? Looks like people in Africa have figured it out themselves. And
>> >what's Biden doing about it? When has he addressed the country, fessed up
>> >that it's a "major problem" and outlined what he's going to do to fix it. And
>> >no, buying street lights for Honduras and putting Harris in charge isn't the solution.
>> This seems to be the only thing you care about.
>
>That's obviously BS.
>
> You should a) bear in
>> mind that you don't know how to solve the problem either,
>
>I know exactly how to solve it, secure the border.
What a non-answer. How are you going to do that? You have just about
> You should a) bear in
>> mind that you don't know how to solve the problem either,
>
>I know exactly how to solve it, secure the border.
proven you don't know how to solve the problem either because if you did
you would have said so here.
micky
Sep 28, 2023, 3:20:56 PM9/28/23
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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:02:41 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
<tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
When you pretend there is no difference between partially closed and
closed, or partially open and closed, you just look stupid. I don't
think you would normally be this stupid, so ask yourself if you're blind
or lying. I'm not going to bother reading the rest of this post. If
there is anything here that doens't rely on your pretense, post it
again.
<tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
closed, or partially open and closed, you just look stupid. I don't
think you would normally be this stupid, so ask yourself if you're blind
or lying. I'm not going to bother reading the rest of this post. If
there is anything here that doens't rely on your pretense, post it
again.
Scott Lurndal
Sep 28, 2023, 4:02:44 PM9/28/23
to
micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> writes:
>In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Sep 2023 07:50:55 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
><tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> But be like Biden, ignores the rocks ahead.
>
>You try to slip in these falsehoods. I'm sure he's not ignoring
>anything and YOU don't know otherwise. That he doesn't do what you want
>doesn't mean he's ignoring something.
The responsibility for dealing with border security, immigration and
>In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Sep 2023 07:50:55 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
><tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> But be like Biden, ignores the rocks ahead.
>
>You try to slip in these falsehoods. I'm sure he's not ignoring
>anything and YOU don't know otherwise. That he doesn't do what you want
>doesn't mean he's ignoring something.
the rest is in the hands of congress, not the president. As much as
Trumpers think otherwise, this isn't a dictatorship.
All congress has to do is pass laws. Now, they need to work
with both sides to get anything through both branches,
but that's how government is supposed to work. None of this
blackmail bullshit from the GOP (government shutdowns) to
force their view of the world on the rest of us.
Cindy Hamilton
Sep 28, 2023, 4:56:48 PM9/28/23
to
On 2023-09-28, Scott Lurndal <sc...@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
> micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> writes:
>>In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Sep 2023 07:50:55 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
>><tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>
>>> But be like Biden, ignores the rocks ahead.
>>
>>You try to slip in these falsehoods. I'm sure he's not ignoring
>>anything and YOU don't know otherwise. That he doesn't do what you want
>>doesn't mean he's ignoring something.
>
> The responsibility for dealing with border security, immigration and
> the rest is in the hands of congress, not the president. As much as
> Trumpers think otherwise, this isn't a dictatorship.
>
> All congress has to do is pass laws. Now, they need to work
> with both sides to get anything through both branches,
Funding. Congress sets the funding for border enforcement.
> micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> writes:
>>In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Sep 2023 07:50:55 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
>><tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>
>>> But be like Biden, ignores the rocks ahead.
>>
>>You try to slip in these falsehoods. I'm sure he's not ignoring
>>anything and YOU don't know otherwise. That he doesn't do what you want
>>doesn't mean he's ignoring something.
>
> The responsibility for dealing with border security, immigration and
> the rest is in the hands of congress, not the president. As much as
> Trumpers think otherwise, this isn't a dictatorship.
>
> All congress has to do is pass laws. Now, they need to work
> with both sides to get anything through both branches,
> but that's how government is supposed to work. None of this
> blackmail bullshit from the GOP (government shutdowns) to
> force their view of the world on the rest of us.
Cindy Hamilton
Jim Joyce
Sep 28, 2023, 5:27:24 PM9/28/23
to
On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 07:50:55 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net>
wrote:
Some people go through their entire life without knowing what their #1 issue is.
Congratulations, you've found yours.
> You should a) bear in
>> mind that you don't know how to solve the problem either,
>
>I know exactly how to solve it, secure the border.
I recognize that approach. When I was a kid, my friend and I built a crappy tree
house. Rule #1 was to keep everyone else out. There was no rule #2. One winter,
we built a snow fort, and again, rule #1 was to keep everyone else out.
Now that we're no longer kids, it seems strange to see people espouse the 'keep
them out' approach. Are immigrants really that scary? My grandparents were
immigrants and they weren't scary. Where I grew up, everyone's grandparents were
immigrants, and most of them weren't scary, either.
wrote:
Congratulations, you've found yours.
> You should a) bear in
>> mind that you don't know how to solve the problem either,
>
>I know exactly how to solve it, secure the border.
house. Rule #1 was to keep everyone else out. There was no rule #2. One winter,
we built a snow fort, and again, rule #1 was to keep everyone else out.
Now that we're no longer kids, it seems strange to see people espouse the 'keep
them out' approach. Are immigrants really that scary? My grandparents were
immigrants and they weren't scary. Where I grew up, everyone's grandparents were
immigrants, and most of them weren't scary, either.
Scott Lurndal
Sep 28, 2023, 5:36:11 PM9/28/23
to
Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> writes:
>On 2023-09-28, Scott Lurndal <sc...@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>> micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> writes:
>>>In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Sep 2023 07:50:55 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
>>><tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> But be like Biden, ignores the rocks ahead.
>>>
>>>You try to slip in these falsehoods. I'm sure he's not ignoring
>>>anything and YOU don't know otherwise. That he doesn't do what you want
>>>doesn't mean he's ignoring something.
>>
>> The responsibility for dealing with border security, immigration and
>> the rest is in the hands of congress, not the president. As much as
>> Trumpers think otherwise, this isn't a dictatorship.
>>
>> All congress has to do is pass laws. Now, they need to work
>> with both sides to get anything through both branches,
>
>Funding. Congress sets the funding for border enforcement.
Laws. For example,
>On 2023-09-28, Scott Lurndal <sc...@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>> micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> writes:
>>>In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Sep 2023 07:50:55 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
>>><tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> But be like Biden, ignores the rocks ahead.
>>>
>>>You try to slip in these falsehoods. I'm sure he's not ignoring
>>>anything and YOU don't know otherwise. That he doesn't do what you want
>>>doesn't mean he's ignoring something.
>>
>> The responsibility for dealing with border security, immigration and
>> the rest is in the hands of congress, not the president. As much as
>> Trumpers think otherwise, this isn't a dictatorship.
>>
>> All congress has to do is pass laws. Now, they need to work
>> with both sides to get anything through both branches,
>
>Funding. Congress sets the funding for border enforcement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Immigration_Reform_Act_of_2007
They should do their job instead of bitching about it.
micky
Sep 28, 2023, 8:43:50 PM9/28/23
to
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Sep 2023 21:36:04 GMT,
>Laws. For example,
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Immigration_Reform_Act_of_2007
>
>They should do their job instead of bitching about it.
Fat chance.
sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> writes:
>>On 2023-09-28, Scott Lurndal <sc...@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>>> micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> writes:
>>>>In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Sep 2023 07:50:55 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
>>>><tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>> But be like Biden, ignores the rocks ahead.
>>>>
>>>>You try to slip in these falsehoods. I'm sure he's not ignoring
>>>>anything and YOU don't know otherwise. That he doesn't do what you want
>>>>doesn't mean he's ignoring something.
>>>
>>> The responsibility for dealing with border security, immigration and
>>> the rest is in the hands of congress, not the president. As much as
>>> Trumpers think otherwise, this isn't a dictatorship.
>>>
>>> All congress has to do is pass laws. Now, they need to work
>>> with both sides to get anything through both branches,
>>
>>Funding. Congress sets the funding for border enforcement.
Not starting Sunday.
>Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> writes:
>>On 2023-09-28, Scott Lurndal <sc...@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>>> micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> writes:
>>>>In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Sep 2023 07:50:55 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
>>>><tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>> But be like Biden, ignores the rocks ahead.
>>>>
>>>>You try to slip in these falsehoods. I'm sure he's not ignoring
>>>>anything and YOU don't know otherwise. That he doesn't do what you want
>>>>doesn't mean he's ignoring something.
>>>
>>> The responsibility for dealing with border security, immigration and
>>> the rest is in the hands of congress, not the president. As much as
>>> Trumpers think otherwise, this isn't a dictatorship.
>>>
>>> All congress has to do is pass laws. Now, they need to work
>>> with both sides to get anything through both branches,
>>
>>Funding. Congress sets the funding for border enforcement.
>Laws. For example,
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Immigration_Reform_Act_of_2007
>
>They should do their job instead of bitching about it.
Hiram T Schwantz
Oct 2, 2023, 4:58:04 PM10/2/23
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 14:34:26 GMT, Cindy Hamilton posted for all of us to
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> On 2023-09-19, alt.home.repair <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> > On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 11:08:05 PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
> >> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 06:15:14 -0400, Ben Verified - ?
> >> <ben.ve...@fact.checker-org> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Yah, the GOP has become infiltrated with a bunch of undercover Democrats aka RINOs. Once selected by the tabulators, the RINOs do a 180 and are
> >> >as looney as any Demonrat.
> >> >
> >> >OTOH, a real Republican would opine the clot shot is optional. Your body, your choice.
> >> The Republican position seems to be a bit wobbly.
> >>
> >> When it comes to certain vaccines, it's "your body, your choice."
> >> But when it comes to women's health, it's "your body, OUR choice."
> >
> > Obviously the concept of the life of a fetus being involved in once case
> > is beyond your pay grade. Did you forget the word for abortion?
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> Not everybody considers a fetus to be a person. I certainly don't.
Then why do prosecutors charge two deaths of pregnant females?
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Hiram
Ed P
Oct 2, 2023, 5:23:00 PM10/2/23
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fetus but not early on. Eight months? Sure. Eight weeks? No.
rbowman
Oct 2, 2023, 8:19:06 PM10/2/23
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The majority of the states consider it to be any stage of development.
Florida: The “Florida Unborn Victims of Violence Act,” effective October
1, 2014, provides that generally, any person who while committing a crime
“causes the death of, or bodily injury to, an unborn child commits a
separate offense,” and that the punishment “is the same as the punishment
provided . . . had the injury or death occurred to the mother of the
unborn child,” except that the death penalty may not be imposed. The law
defines “unborn child” as “a member of the species homo sapiens, at any
stage of development, who is carried in the womb.” Florida Statutes
section 775.021 (5).
I guess you can't blame that one on DeSantis, but then Florida hasn't had
a Democratic governor in this century. Are you sure you're in the right
palce?
Federal cases also are any stage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act
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Oct 2, 2023, 10:59:43 PM10/2/23
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to rob your victims of their humanity. The Marxist
Nazis did this before they started their various
genocides.
Peeler
Oct 3, 2023, 4:08:38 AM10/3/23
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On 3 Oct 2023 00:18:58 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
pathological bigmouth!
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More of the resident bigmouth's usual idiotic babble and gossip:
I'm not saying my father and uncle wouldn't have drank Genesee beer
without Miss Genny but it certainly didn't hurt. Stanton's was the
hometown brewery but it closed in '50. There was a Schaefer brewery in
Albany but their product was considered a step up from cat piss.
My preference was Rheingold on tap"
MID: <k9mnmm...@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> https://www.nrlc.org/federal/unbornvictims/statehomicidelaws092302/
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> The majority of the states consider it to be any stage of development.
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> Florida: The “Florida Unborn Victims of Violence Act,” effective October
Oh, if only you and your big mouth had never been born, you obnoxious
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> The majority of the states consider it to be any stage of development.
>
> Florida: The “Florida Unborn Victims of Violence Act,” effective October
pathological bigmouth!
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More of the resident bigmouth's usual idiotic babble and gossip:
I'm not saying my father and uncle wouldn't have drank Genesee beer
without Miss Genny but it certainly didn't hurt. Stanton's was the
hometown brewery but it closed in '50. There was a Schaefer brewery in
Albany but their product was considered a step up from cat piss.
My preference was Rheingold on tap"
MID: <k9mnmm...@mid.individual.net>
Hiram T Schwantz
Oct 23, 2023, 5:17:21 PM10/23/23
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On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 17:22:53 -0400, Ed P posted for all of us to digest...
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Hiram
Universal Campaign
Oct 26, 2023, 6:04:11 AM10/26/23
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FOR GLOBAL SAFETY; THIS MUST IMMEDIATELY REACH ALL PEOPLES OF THE WHOLE WORLD.
BELIEVE, TRUST, FAST AND QUICK AND DON'T WASTE ANY MOMENT.
https://www.thepetitionsite.com/fr-fr/takeaction/873/668/683/
https://tinyurl.com/5n8m3u94
https://youtube.com/shorts/ggsqFnSH18M?si=u6x53QRJsDNeyEcr
https://tinyurl.com/3hkyzh2a
https://groups.google.com/g/first-universal-priority
https://actright.com/cause/global-solidarity-with-mr-redha-bendridi-3007-366441-20220313110110o1hpjm
https://tinyurl.com/m3ervu6s
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