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r31 aug
Apr 13, 2021, 12:15:53 PM4/13/21
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Are shingles on a plastic ridge vent only for cosmetic appearance? (About 8ft of shingles blew off the ridge vent; vent itself is fine.) If I don't use shingles at all and just cover the plastic with some ultraviolet resistant covering (which would be easier for me to do vs. nailing in shingles), would that probably last 5-7 years or so in the sun in the NYC area? For the UV-resistant covering, I was thinking maybe Gorilla tape, or even roof cement spread over the ridge vent. The ridge vent is GAF Cobra roll, and the data sheet for that says the plastic contains Carbon black, which is good for UV resistance, but I want to cover that ridge vent plastic also, to provide more UV shading. Thanks.
gfre...@aol.com
Apr 13, 2021, 12:57:49 PM4/13/21
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 09:15:48 -0700 (PDT), r31 aug
<r31au...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Are shingles on a plastic ridge vent only for cosmetic appearance? (About 8ft of shingles blew off the ridge vent; vent itself is fine.) If I don't use shingles at all and just cover the plastic with some ultraviolet resistant covering (which would be easier for me to do vs. nailing in shingles), would that probably last 5-7 years or so in the sun in the NYC area? For the UV-resistant covering, I was thinking maybe Gorilla tape, or even roof cement spread over the ridge vent. The ridge vent is GAF Cobra roll, and the data sheet for that says the plastic contains Carbon black, which is good for UV resistance, but I want to cover that ridge vent plastic also, to provide more UV shading. Thanks.
Plastic ridge vents are stupid, they will all get killed by U/V. I
<r31au...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Are shingles on a plastic ridge vent only for cosmetic appearance? (About 8ft of shingles blew off the ridge vent; vent itself is fine.) If I don't use shingles at all and just cover the plastic with some ultraviolet resistant covering (which would be easier for me to do vs. nailing in shingles), would that probably last 5-7 years or so in the sun in the NYC area? For the UV-resistant covering, I was thinking maybe Gorilla tape, or even roof cement spread over the ridge vent. The ridge vent is GAF Cobra roll, and the data sheet for that says the plastic contains Carbon black, which is good for UV resistance, but I want to cover that ridge vent plastic also, to provide more UV shading. Thanks.
would skin it with aluminum on top to shade it.
r31 aug
Apr 13, 2021, 1:12:20 PM4/13/21
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trader_4
Apr 13, 2021, 1:24:27 PM4/13/21
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On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 12:15:53 PM UTC-4, r31 aug wrote:
> Are shingles on a plastic ridge vent only for cosmetic appearance? (About 8ft of shingles blew off the ridge vent; vent itself is fine.) If I don't use shingles at all and just cover the plastic with some ultraviolet resistant covering (which would be easier for me to do vs. nailing in shingles), would that probably last 5-7 years or so in the sun in the NYC area? For the UV-resistant covering, I was thinking maybe Gorilla tape, or even roof cement spread over the ridge vent. The ridge vent is GAF Cobra roll, and the data sheet for that says the plastic contains Carbon black, which is good for UV resistance, but I want to cover that ridge vent plastic also, to provide more UV shading. Thanks.
What's so hard about nailing on cap shingles? Sounds a lot easier to me than
> Are shingles on a plastic ridge vent only for cosmetic appearance? (About 8ft of shingles blew off the ridge vent; vent itself is fine.) If I don't use shingles at all and just cover the plastic with some ultraviolet resistant covering (which would be easier for me to do vs. nailing in shingles), would that probably last 5-7 years or so in the sun in the NYC area? For the UV-resistant covering, I was thinking maybe Gorilla tape, or even roof cement spread over the ridge vent. The ridge vent is GAF Cobra roll, and the data sheet for that says the plastic contains Carbon black, which is good for UV resistance, but I want to cover that ridge vent plastic also, to provide more UV shading. Thanks.
trying to kludge something half-assed together that's going to be an obvious
kludge job. You can just cut regular shingles
or some manufacturers offer cap shingles that don't need to be cut. Find ones
that match the roof. That roll stuff is just flimsy material and it's intended to be
covered with shingles for it to last and to keep water out. I'm sure there are plenty
of youtube videos showing how to do it.
hub...@ccanoemail.ca
Apr 13, 2021, 2:18:52 PM4/13/21
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>> Are shingles on a plastic ridge vent only for cosmetic appearance?
>>(About 8ft of shingles blew off the ridge vent; vent itself is fine.
>What's so hard about nailing on cap shingles
What kind of nails work best into a flimsy plastic ridge vent ?
... liquid ones ? :-)
John T.
Scott Lurndal
Apr 13, 2021, 2:44:17 PM4/13/21
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GAF makes cap shingles designed to cover the ridge vents.
Scott Lurndal
Apr 13, 2021, 2:44:54 PM4/13/21
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Tekkie©
Apr 13, 2021, 5:24:12 PM4/13/21
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 09:15:48 -0700 (PDT), r31 aug posted for all of us to
digest...
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> Are shingles on a plastic ridge vent only for cosmetic appearance? (About 8ft of shingles blew off the ridge vent; vent itself is fine.) If I don't use shingles at all and just cover the plastic with some ultraviolet resistant covering (which would be easier for me to do vs. nailing in shingles), would that probably last 5-7
years or so in the sun in the NYC area? For the UV-resistant covering, I was thinking maybe Gorilla tape, or even roof cement spread over the ridge vent. The ridge vent is GAF Cobra roll, and the data sheet for that says the plastic contains Carbon black, which is good for UV resistance, but I want to cover that ridge vent
plastic also, to provide more UV shading. Thanks.
roofed by an approved - by the shingle manufacturer - roofer.
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Tekkie
trader_4
Apr 13, 2021, 5:56:02 PM4/13/21
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used today are plastic, either rigid or the soft roll type. I would use the rigid,
but they are both widely used. The problem here isn't the ridge vent, it's that
somehow the shingles blew off, likely because they were not installed correctly.
The OP appears to want to double down on that. And the claim that UV will
destroy a plastic ridge vent makes no sense as they are installed with shingles
over them.
trader_4
Apr 13, 2021, 5:56:40 PM4/13/21
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gfre...@aol.com
Apr 13, 2021, 6:26:32 PM4/13/21
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Why would shingles be better than aluminum coil? You can get it white
on one side and brown on the other to come closer to matching the
shingles. If you used SS tek screws it would hold a lot better than
trying to nail anything with less chance of breaking the ridge vent.
Do they even do ridge vent up there? I would think snow would cause
water intrusion.
gfre...@aol.com
Apr 13, 2021, 6:27:20 PM4/13/21
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 18:44:49 GMT, sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
The kind that blew off?
wrote:
gfre...@aol.com
Apr 13, 2021, 6:29:00 PM4/13/21
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 17:24:06 -0400, Tekkie© <Tek...@comcast.net>
wrote:
I have never even seen plastic roof vent. It is always aluminum here.
Maybe that is a northern thing.
wrote:
Maybe that is a northern thing.
Clare Snyder
Apr 14, 2021, 12:20:58 AM4/14/21
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cap shingles protect the plastic from harmful UV rays which would
otherwize deteriorate the plastic making it brittle.
trader_4
Apr 14, 2021, 10:31:26 AM4/14/21
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On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 6:26:32 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 10:24:24 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 12:15:53 PM UTC-4, r31 aug wrote:
> >> Are shingles on a plastic ridge vent only for cosmetic appearance? (About 8ft of shingles blew off the ridge vent; vent itself is fine.) If I don't use shingles at all and just cover the plastic with some ultraviolet resistant covering (which would be easier for me to do vs. nailing in shingles), would that probably last 5-7 years or so in the sun in the NYC area? For the UV-resistant covering, I was thinking maybe Gorilla tape, or even roof cement spread over the ridge vent. The ridge vent is GAF Cobra roll, and the data sheet for that says the plastic contains Carbon black, which is good for UV resistance, but I want to cover that ridge vent plastic also, to provide more UV shading. Thanks.
> >
> >What's so hard about nailing on cap shingles? Sounds a lot easier to me than
> >trying to kludge something half-assed together that's going to be an obvious
> >kludge job. You can just cut regular shingles
> >or some manufacturers offer cap shingles that don't need to be cut. Find ones
> >that match the roof. That roll stuff is just flimsy material and it's intended to be
> >covered with shingles for it to last and to keep water out. I'm sure there are plenty
> >of youtube videos showing how to do it.
> >
> >
> Nail into a piece of plastic?
You don't nail into the plastic, you nail through it into the wood.
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 10:24:24 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 12:15:53 PM UTC-4, r31 aug wrote:
> >> Are shingles on a plastic ridge vent only for cosmetic appearance? (About 8ft of shingles blew off the ridge vent; vent itself is fine.) If I don't use shingles at all and just cover the plastic with some ultraviolet resistant covering (which would be easier for me to do vs. nailing in shingles), would that probably last 5-7 years or so in the sun in the NYC area? For the UV-resistant covering, I was thinking maybe Gorilla tape, or even roof cement spread over the ridge vent. The ridge vent is GAF Cobra roll, and the data sheet for that says the plastic contains Carbon black, which is good for UV resistance, but I want to cover that ridge vent plastic also, to provide more UV shading. Thanks.
> >
> >What's so hard about nailing on cap shingles? Sounds a lot easier to me than
> >trying to kludge something half-assed together that's going to be an obvious
> >kludge job. You can just cut regular shingles
> >or some manufacturers offer cap shingles that don't need to be cut. Find ones
> >that match the roof. That roll stuff is just flimsy material and it's intended to be
> >covered with shingles for it to last and to keep water out. I'm sure there are plenty
> >of youtube videos showing how to do it.
> >
> >
> Nail into a piece of plastic?
>
> Why would shingles be better than aluminum coil?
that are covered in aluminum?
You can get it white
> on one side and brown on the other to come closer to matching the
> shingles.
Or you can just do it the way 99% of roof installs on homes are done, covering
the ridge vent with the same shingles as the roof.
If you used SS tek screws it would hold a lot better than
> trying to nail anything with less chance of breaking the ridge vent.
> Do they even do ridge vent up there? I would think snow would cause
> water intrusion.
for decades now. It would be hard for snow to get under the shingles and then
through the roll type product like that on the poster's roof.
trader_4
Apr 14, 2021, 10:32:14 AM4/14/21
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Scott Lurndal
Apr 14, 2021, 10:37:04 AM4/14/21
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It's clear that the person who installed the cap shingles did not
follow the manufacturers recommendations for installation, since
GAF has a lifetime warranty when installed per their instructions.
gfre...@aol.com
Apr 14, 2021, 3:52:39 PM4/14/21
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Depot that don't meet code here.
What is the rated wind speed with shingles nailed on top?
I know, who cares about that.
gfre...@aol.com
Apr 14, 2021, 3:58:05 PM4/14/21
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 14:36:59 GMT, sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Is that like their 30-40 year roof warranty?
Vic Smith
Apr 14, 2021, 5:52:18 PM4/14/21
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 14:36:59 GMT, sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>It's clear that the person who installed the cap shingles did not
>follow the manufacturers recommendations for installation, since
>GAF has a lifetime warranty when installed per their instructions.
I had my house and garage roofs done in 2001 with GAF shingles.
>It's clear that the person who installed the cap shingles did not
>follow the manufacturers recommendations for installation, since
>GAF has a lifetime warranty when installed per their instructions.
The roofer used a different brand of caps from a company that underwent a class-action
lawsuit because their shingles started deteriorating fast.
In 2012 I had to get a guy out to replace all the caps because they were starting to crack
and had bare spots. The new roofer told me about that as soon as he saw them.
I had him replace them with GAF caps. Cost me $900. Afterwards I priced those caps at
Home Depot and they were about $600. My roofs still look new after 20 years.
micky
Apr 14, 2021, 9:48:52 PM4/14/21
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In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 13 Apr 2021 10:24:24 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
plastic garbage can lid with a 4" crack patched with gorilla tape and
it's lasted for a year, but it's on the shady side of the house, n ot on
the roof.
> or even roof cement spread over the ridge vent. The ridge vent is GAF Cobra roll, and the data sheet for that says the plastic contains Carbon black, which is good for UV resistance, but I want to cover that ridge vent plastic also, to provide more UV shading. Thanks.
>
>What's so hard about nailing on cap shingles? Sounds a lot easier to me than
>trying to kludge something half-assed together that's going to be an obvious
>kludge job. You can just cut regular shingles
>or some manufacturers offer cap shingles that don't need to be cut. Find ones
>that match the roof.
Heck, it's trim. It can contrast with the rest of the roof and still
look good. OR, I patched my roof a year ago near the roof ridge and I
kicked myself that I didn't save the brand and color of the original
roof, so I could get matching shingles. (And I even let a few left-over
shingles get ruined and threw them away. Kicking myself again.)
So I let roofer get whatever he thought was good (and he only had two
possible shades of tan) and you know what? There is too much light** in
the sky and I can never tell if it matches or not. **Except at night,
and I can't tell then either. Maybe if I had a one-story house it
would be visible, even noticeable. But I don't think so. You can't see
the roof when you get close to the house.
<tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 12:15:53 PM UTC-4, r31 aug wrote:
>> Are shingles on a plastic ridge vent only for cosmetic appearance? (About 8ft of shingles blew off the ridge vent; vent itself is fine.) If I don't use shingles at all and just cover the plastic with some ultraviolet resistant covering (which would be easier for me to do vs. nailing in shingles), would that probably last 5-7 years or so in the sun in the NYC area? For the UV-resistant covering, I was thinking maybe Gorilla tape,
Gorilla tape, as good as it is, won't last one summer. I have a
>On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 12:15:53 PM UTC-4, r31 aug wrote:
>> Are shingles on a plastic ridge vent only for cosmetic appearance? (About 8ft of shingles blew off the ridge vent; vent itself is fine.) If I don't use shingles at all and just cover the plastic with some ultraviolet resistant covering (which would be easier for me to do vs. nailing in shingles), would that probably last 5-7 years or so in the sun in the NYC area? For the UV-resistant covering, I was thinking maybe Gorilla tape,
plastic garbage can lid with a 4" crack patched with gorilla tape and
it's lasted for a year, but it's on the shady side of the house, n ot on
the roof.
> or even roof cement spread over the ridge vent. The ridge vent is GAF Cobra roll, and the data sheet for that says the plastic contains Carbon black, which is good for UV resistance, but I want to cover that ridge vent plastic also, to provide more UV shading. Thanks.
>
>What's so hard about nailing on cap shingles? Sounds a lot easier to me than
>trying to kludge something half-assed together that's going to be an obvious
>kludge job. You can just cut regular shingles
>or some manufacturers offer cap shingles that don't need to be cut. Find ones
>that match the roof.
look good. OR, I patched my roof a year ago near the roof ridge and I
kicked myself that I didn't save the brand and color of the original
roof, so I could get matching shingles. (And I even let a few left-over
shingles get ruined and threw them away. Kicking myself again.)
So I let roofer get whatever he thought was good (and he only had two
possible shades of tan) and you know what? There is too much light** in
the sky and I can never tell if it matches or not. **Except at night,
and I can't tell then either. Maybe if I had a one-story house it
would be visible, even noticeable. But I don't think so. You can't see
the roof when you get close to the house.
gfre...@aol.com
Apr 14, 2021, 10:40:01 PM4/14/21
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 21:48:31 -0400, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
wrote:
I looked that stuff up. It is not what we call ridge vent.
The stuff we use is mushroom shaped aluminum with holes up under the
dome, The shingles go up to the cut in the sheathing and this goes on
top.
wrote:
The stuff we use is mushroom shaped aluminum with holes up under the
dome, The shingles go up to the cut in the sheathing and this goes on
top.
r31 aug
Apr 15, 2021, 7:33:32 AM4/15/21
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I was thinking to use Gorilla All Weather, model 6009002.
https://www.amazon.com/Gorilla-Weather-Waterproof-Temperature-Resistant/dp/B07GRJ8L55
and the amazon description says it's good for roofs too.
trader_4
Apr 15, 2021, 8:14:51 AM4/15/21
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Thomas
Apr 15, 2021, 5:36:12 PM4/15/21
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Foam vent with shingles to match roof is my only way..
*rv is roof vent
Tekkie©
Apr 15, 2021, 5:40:37 PM4/15/21
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 15:52:15 -0400, gfre...@aol.com posted for all of us to
digest...
>
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 07:32:10 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 6:29:00 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 17:24:06 -0400, Tekkie© <Tek...@comcast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 09:15:48 -0700 (PDT), r31 aug posted for all of us to
> >> >digest...
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Are shingles on a plastic ridge vent only for cosmetic appearance? (About 8ft of shingles blew off the ridge vent; vent itself is fine.) If I don't use shingles at all and just cover the plastic with some ultraviolet resistant covering (which would be easier for me to do vs. nailing in shingles), would that probably last 5-
7
> >> >years or so in the sun in the NYC area? For the UV-resistant covering, I was thinking maybe Gorilla tape, or even roof cement spread over the ridge vent. The ridge vent is GAF Cobra roll, and the data sheet for that says the plastic contains Carbon black, which is good for UV resistance, but I want to cover that ridge vent
> >> >plastic also, to provide more UV shading. Thanks.
> >> >
> >> >Is there a possibility that the roof is still under warranty? It may have
> >> >roofed by an approved - by the shingle manufacturer - roofer.
> >> I have never even seen plastic roof vent. It is always aluminum here.
> >> Maybe that is a northern thing.
> >
> >Take a trip to HD or Lowes or try Google.
> >
>
> They sell lots of things on the internet or even list them at Home
> Depot that don't meet code here.
> What is the rated wind speed with shingles nailed on top?
>
> I know, who cares about that.
Like a lawyer says: It depends.
>
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 07:32:10 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 6:29:00 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 17:24:06 -0400, Tekkie© <Tek...@comcast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 09:15:48 -0700 (PDT), r31 aug posted for all of us to
> >> >digest...
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Are shingles on a plastic ridge vent only for cosmetic appearance? (About 8ft of shingles blew off the ridge vent; vent itself is fine.) If I don't use shingles at all and just cover the plastic with some ultraviolet resistant covering (which would be easier for me to do vs. nailing in shingles), would that probably last 5-
7
> >> >years or so in the sun in the NYC area? For the UV-resistant covering, I was thinking maybe Gorilla tape, or even roof cement spread over the ridge vent. The ridge vent is GAF Cobra roll, and the data sheet for that says the plastic contains Carbon black, which is good for UV resistance, but I want to cover that ridge vent
> >> >plastic also, to provide more UV shading. Thanks.
> >> >
> >> >Is there a possibility that the roof is still under warranty? It may have
> >> >roofed by an approved - by the shingle manufacturer - roofer.
> >> I have never even seen plastic roof vent. It is always aluminum here.
> >> Maybe that is a northern thing.
> >
> >Take a trip to HD or Lowes or try Google.
> >
>
> They sell lots of things on the internet or even list them at Home
> Depot that don't meet code here.
> What is the rated wind speed with shingles nailed on top?
>
> I know, who cares about that.
--
Tekkie
r31 aug
Apr 16, 2021, 11:43:24 AM4/16/21
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On Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 7:33:32 AM UTC-4, r31 aug wrote:
micky
Apr 16, 2021, 8:51:35 PM4/16/21
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In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 15 Apr 2021 04:33:28 -0700 (PDT), r31 aug
Probably this stuff. Definitely not what follows:
>I was thinking to use Gorilla All Weather, model 6009002.
>https://www.amazon.com/Gorilla-Weather-Waterproof-Temperature-Resistant/dp/B07GRJ8L55
>and the amazon description says it's good for roofs too.
I had not seen this stuff before you posted it.
I used to spend more time browsing hardware stores, but because of
Corona, I haven't learned anything in 13 months.
>I was thinking to use Gorilla All Weather, model 6009002.
>https://www.amazon.com/Gorilla-Weather-Waterproof-Temperature-Resistant/dp/B07GRJ8L55
>and the amazon description says it's good for roofs too.
I used to spend more time browsing hardware stores, but because of
Corona, I haven't learned anything in 13 months.
Tekkie©
Apr 17, 2021, 3:51:15 PM4/17/21
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 20:51:17 -0400, micky posted for all of us to digest...
> I haven't learned anything in 13 months.
>
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Tekkie
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