Clothing and politics

[micky]

At the Democratic National Convention and one or two other times when I
saw her, Kamala Harris wore pants.

Do you think the Democratic ticket would have gotten more votes if she
had worn a dress or skirt some of the time she was on Tv, etc.?



If so, what group would have voted for her more?

[Fred]

"micky" <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote in message
news:h8b9qfdlrm96890qc...@4ax.com...

> At the Democratic National Convention and one or two
> other times when I saw her, Kamala Harris wore pants.

Hitlary almost always does.

> Do you think the Democratic ticket would have gotten more votes
> if she had worn a dress or skirt some of the time she was on Tv, etc.?

Unlikely imo.

> If so, what group would have voted for her more?

Presumably traditionalists, but most of those would be repugs.

[angelica...@yahoo.com]

On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:00:53 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
> At the Democratic National Convention and one or two other times when I
> saw her, Kamala Harris wore pants.

Skirts are for old ladies. I'm 63 and I haven't worn a skirt in 20 years.
Many, many women wear pants almost exclusively--especially women
under 60.

> Do you think the Democratic ticket would have gotten more votes if she
> had worn a dress or skirt some of the time she was on Tv, etc.?

Hard to say. The minds of people who would pay attention to that sort
of thing are a mystery to me.

Cindy Hamilton

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 6 Nov 2020 03:43:31 -0800 (PST),

"angelica...@yahoo.com" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:00:53 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
>> At the Democratic National Convention and one or two other times when I
>> saw her, Kamala Harris wore pants.
>
>Skirts are for old ladies.

Dresses too?

>I'm 63 and I haven't worn a skirt in 20 years.
>Many, many women wear pants almost exclusively--especially women
>under 60.

They look like men when they wear pants. I don't care if the pants are
tailored differently.

>> Do you think the Democratic ticket would have gotten more votes if she
>> had worn a dress or skirt some of the time she was on Tv, etc.?
>
>Hard to say. The minds of people who would pay attention to that sort
>of thing are a mystery to me.

I said what's in the OP to a friend and she kept saying it was sexist.
I said, Yeah it's sexist but it could still be true.

I think pants turn off men any older than I am, 73, and some who are
younger, and if she wore a dress some of the time, Biden-Harris would
have gotten more votes.

Even though she is married, not a 9 or 10, and they will never even be
in the same room with her, I think skirts remind men of many ages of
their mother, aunt, grandmother, and generate a feeling of kindness or
welcome in them.

>Cindy Hamilton

[angelica...@yahoo.com]

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 5:03:50 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 6 Nov 2020 03:43:31 -0800 (PST),
> "angelica...@yahoo.com" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:00:53 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
> >> At the Democratic National Convention and one or two other times when I
> >> saw her, Kamala Harris wore pants.
> >
> >Skirts are for old ladies.
> Dresses too?

Apart from cocktail and evening dresses, yes. Sure, some young women
wear skirts to show off their legs. But they also spend a fair amount
of time in pants.

> >I'm 63 and I haven't worn a skirt in 20 years.
> >Many, many women wear pants almost exclusively--especially women
> >under 60.
> They look like men when they wear pants. I don't care if the pants are
> tailored differently.

So what? What difference does it make if they look like men? It doesn't
make them men. No matter what I wear, pants, skirt, or a suit of armor,
I'm still me and I'm still female.

> >> Do you think the Democratic ticket would have gotten more votes if she
> >> had worn a dress or skirt some of the time she was on Tv, etc.?
> >
> >Hard to say. The minds of people who would pay attention to that sort
> >of thing are a mystery to me.
> I said what's in the OP to a friend and she kept saying it was sexist.
> I said, Yeah it's sexist but it could still be true.
>
> I think pants turn off men any older than I am, 73, and some who are
> younger, and if she wore a dress some of the time, Biden-Harris would
> have gotten more votes.

More votes from a dying cohort of the electorate. There are more voters
under 60 than over.

> Even though she is married, not a 9 or 10, and they will never even be
> in the same room with her, I think skirts remind men of many ages of
> their mother, aunt, grandmother, and generate a feeling of kindness or
> welcome in them.

Again, so what? Kindness or welcome is irrelevant. Competence and
toughness are what matter.

Cindy Hamilton

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:26:35 -0800 (PST), "angelica...@yahoo.com"
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>More votes from a dying cohort of the electorate. There are more voters
>under 60 than over.

It depends on where you live and if you mean people who actually vote.
This is the first election I have seen around here where the number of
younger voters was actually significant. We did set records maybe more
than the country as a whole but it is clear, love him or hate him,
Trump turned out the vote.

[Fred]

"micky" <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote in message

news:hsgaqf1sinlsqbe8t...@4ax.com...

> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 6 Nov 2020 03:43:31 -0800 (PST),
> "angelica...@yahoo.com" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:00:53 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
>>> At the Democratic National Convention and one or two other times when I
>>> saw her, Kamala Harris wore pants.
>>
>>Skirts are for old ladies.
>
> Dresses too?
>
>>I'm 63 and I haven't worn a skirt in 20 years.
>>Many, many women wear pants almost exclusively--especially women
>>under 60.
>
> They look like men when they wear pants. I don't care if the pants are
> tailored differently.
>
>>> Do you think the Democratic ticket would have gotten more votes if she
>>> had worn a dress or skirt some of the time she was on Tv, etc.?
>>
>>Hard to say. The minds of people who would pay attention to that sort
>>of thing are a mystery to me.
>
> I said what's in the OP to a friend and she kept saying it was sexist.
> I said, Yeah it's sexist but it could still be true.

> I think pants turn off men any older than I am, 73,

They don't turn me off and I am older than you.

> and some who are younger, and if she
> wore a dress some of the time, Biden-
> Harris would have gotten more votes.

That is very arguable indeed, particularly with
the sort of person that votes democrat.

> Even though she is married, not a 9 or 10, and they will never
> even be in the same room with her, I think skirts remind men
> of many ages of their mother, aunt, grandmother,

All of mine of those didn't wear pants.

> and generate a feeling of kindness or welcome in them.

That doesn't happen with me.

[Bob F]

On 11/7/2020 2:03 AM, micky wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 6 Nov 2020 03:43:31 -0800 (PST),
> "angelica...@yahoo.com" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:00:53 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
>>> At the Democratic National Convention and one or two other times when I
>>> saw her, Kamala Harris wore pants.
>>
>> Skirts are for old ladies.
>
> Dresses too?
>
>> I'm 63 and I haven't worn a skirt in 20 years.
>> Many, many women wear pants almost exclusively--especially women
>> under 60.
>
> They look like men when they wear pants. I don't care if the pants are
> tailored differently.
>
>>> Do you think the Democratic ticket would have gotten more votes if she
>>> had worn a dress or skirt some of the time she was on Tv, etc.?
>>
>> Hard to say. The minds of people who would pay attention to that sort
>> of thing are a mystery to me.
>
> I said what's in the OP to a friend and she kept saying it was sexist.
> I said, Yeah it's sexist but it could still be true.
>
> I think pants turn off men any older than I am, 73, and some who are
> younger, and if she wore a dress some of the time, Biden-Harris would
> have gotten more votes.

BS - We all know how much you like to see a woman in tight jeans.

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:26:35 -0800 (PST),

"angelica...@yahoo.com" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 5:03:50 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 6 Nov 2020 03:43:31 -0800 (PST),
>> "angelica...@yahoo.com" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:00:53 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
>> >> At the Democratic National Convention and one or two other times when I
>> >> saw her, Kamala Harris wore pants.
>> >
>> >Skirts are for old ladies.
>> Dresses too?
>
>Apart from cocktail and evening dresses, yes. Sure, some young women
>wear skirts to show off their legs. But they also spend a fair amount
>of time in pants.

I wasn't suggesting Harris (or Hillary) never wear pants. I think they
both would have gotten more votes if they were seen wearing skirts some
of the time.

>> >I'm 63 and I haven't worn a skirt in 20 years.
>> >Many, many women wear pants almost exclusively--especially women
>> >under 60.
>> They look like men when they wear pants. I don't care if the pants are
>> tailored differently.
>
>So what? What difference does it make if they look like men?

It's nerve-wracking if a woman looks like a man, just as it is if a man
looks like a woman.

> It doesn't
>make them men. No matter what I wear, pants, skirt, or a suit of armor,
>I'm still me and I'm still female.

But you're not running for office. I think if you were, it would help
to be seen wearing a skirt some of the time.

>> >> Do you think the Democratic ticket would have gotten more votes if she
>> >> had worn a dress or skirt some of the time she was on Tv, etc.?
>> >
>> >Hard to say. The minds of people who would pay attention to that sort
>> >of thing are a mystery to me.
>> I said what's in the OP to a friend and she kept saying it was sexist.
>> I said, Yeah it's sexist but it could still be true.
>>
>> I think pants turn off men any older than I am, 73, and some who are
>> younger, and if she wore a dress some of the time, Biden-Harris would
>> have gotten more votes.
>
>More votes from a dying cohort of the electorate.

I think they still vote at a higher percentage than anyone else.

>There are more voters under 60 than over.

Well sure. I'm not saying it would have doubled Biden's vote, only that
it would increase it. I don't think her wearing a skirt would cost him
votes from those under 60, only gain from those over.

>
>> Even though she is married, not a 9 or 10, and they will never even be
>> in the same room with her, I think skirts remind men of many ages of
>> their mother, aunt, grandmother, and generate a feeling of kindness or
>> welcome in them.
>
>Again, so what? Kindness or welcome is irrelevant. Competence and
>toughness are what matter.

If that were all that mattered, the news commentators would not have all
mentioned how well-liked Biden is, and that Hillary wasn't liked (I
never understood why that was apparently true about her, but my lack of
understanding doesn't change things.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

[Bernhard]

In many areas, there were more votes cast than registered voters.

[angelica...@yahoo.com]

Nerve-wracking? Perhaps you need some sort of tranquilizer.

> > It doesn't
> >make them men. No matter what I wear, pants, skirt, or a suit of armor,
> >I'm still me and I'm still female.
> But you're not running for office. I think if you were, it would help
> to be seen wearing a skirt some of the time.

The electorate would be doomed to disappointment. Even the last time
I attended a dressy event, I wore pants. Velvet pants, but pants nevertheless.

Cindy Hamilton

[rbowman]

On 11/07/2020 05:26 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
> More votes from a dying cohort of the electorate. There are more voters
> under 60 than over.

And yet we're in the Battle of the Dinosaurs...

"Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside ragin'
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'"

https://www.lyrics.com/track/812822/Bob+Dylan/The+Times+They+Are+A-Changin%27

Okay, Bobby, when the hell are they going to change?

[Ed Pawlowski]

Surely you have evidence or explanation.

[Peeler]

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 11:25:22 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> "Come senators, congressmen
> Please heed the call
> Don't stand in the doorway
> Don't block up the hall
> For he that gets hurt
> Will be he who has stalled
> There's a battle outside ragin'
> It'll soon shake your windows
> And rattle your walls
> For the times they are a-changin'"
>
> https://www.lyrics.com/track/812822/Bob+Dylan/The+Times+They+Are+A-Changin%27
>
> Okay, Bobby, when the hell are they going to change?

Take your meds, senile asshole!

[Fred]

"micky" <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote in message

news:77ndqfp5upf2onbjc...@4ax.com...

> In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:26:35 -0800 (PST),
> "angelica...@yahoo.com" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 5:03:50 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
>>> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 6 Nov 2020 03:43:31 -0800 (PST),
>>> "angelica...@yahoo.com" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:00:53 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
>>> >> At the Democratic National Convention and one or two other times when
>>> >> I
>>> >> saw her, Kamala Harris wore pants.
>>> >
>>> >Skirts are for old ladies.
>>> Dresses too?
>>
>>Apart from cocktail and evening dresses, yes. Sure, some young women
>>wear skirts to show off their legs. But they also spend a fair amount
>>of time in pants.
>
> I wasn't suggesting Harris (or Hillary) never wear pants. I think they
> both would have gotten more votes if they were seen wearing skirts some
> of the time.
>
>>> >I'm 63 and I haven't worn a skirt in 20 years.
>>> >Many, many women wear pants almost exclusively--especially women
>>> >under 60.
>>> They look like men when they wear pants. I don't care if the pants are
>>> tailored differently.
>>
>>So what? What difference does it make if they look like men?
>
> It's nerve-wracking if a woman looks like a man,

They don't just because they are wearing jeans etc.

> just as it is if a man looks like a woman.

I don't find that nerve wracking either.

>> It doesn't
>>make them men. No matter what I wear, pants, skirt, or a suit of armor,
>>I'm still me and I'm still female.
>
> But you're not running for office. I think if you were, it would help
> to be seen wearing a skirt some of the time.

I don't.

[gfre...@aol.com]

I heard that song when Goldwater was running for president and other
than a bunch of wars we had no business in and freedoms lost, things
didn't change much.

[gfre...@aol.com]

The excuse I have heard is "same day registration". They didn't show
up in the statistics about registered voters. That will be easy to
prove or disprove and with this guy, you know they will have to prove
everything.
If Trump doesn't just take his ball and go home, this mess will make
Bush v Gore look like a landslide.
I am personally hoping for the former. We have enough problems without
starting that kind of food fight again.
Bear in mind, Gore didn't give up until December 12.
I am just happy we are not in that mess down here.
Florida finally did something right.
Maybe they will start the "Philadelphia Man" jokes now. ;-)

[Dan Espen]

"Fred" <hju...@hotnail.com> writes:

> They don't just because they are wearing jeans etc.

> I don't find that nerve wracking either.

> I don't.

You know you still clearly broadcast RS is here.

--
Dan Espen

[Bob F]

Maybe if trump had worn a dress he would have won.

[Bob F]

They changed HUGELY for the last 4 years. Enough already!

[rbowman]

On 11/07/2020 10:50 AM, micky wrote:
> I wasn't suggesting Harris (or Hillary) never wear pants. I think they
> both would have gotten more votes if they were seen wearing skirts some
> of the time.

Sexist pig.

[angelica...@yahoo.com]

Oh, God. I can't unsee that.

Cindy Hamilton

[rbowman]

Some states reported phenomenal voter turnouts. I get suspicious when
the historical data is a rather flat line and then there's an abrupt spike.

[Peeler]

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 14:38:23 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

>> Surely you have evidence or explanation.
>
> Some states reported phenomenal voter turnouts. I get suspicious when
> the historical data is a rather flat line and then there's an abrupt spike.

Like I said, you sick Trumptard and senile asshole simply keep regurgitating
your retarded Fuehrer's sick rants! LOL

[Peeler]

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 14:35:06 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

>

> Sexist pig.

Impotent senile Trumptard!

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 11/7/2020 4:35 PM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:

>>> The electorate would be doomed to disappointment. Even the last time
>>> I attended a dressy event, I wore pants. Velvet pants, but pants nevertheless.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> Maybe if trump had worn a dress he would have won.
>
> Oh, God. I can't unsee that.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Could be worse. We had a couple in our shop years ago, both were about
40 and they were both about the same size. One day she would come to
work wearing blue sweat pants and the pocket was in the front. Next
day, the husband wore the same pants, pocket in the back.

They shared other clothing too. I'm guessing the just had a pile of
clothes on the floor and grabbed something every day.

[Fred]

"rbowman" <bow...@montana.com> wrote in message
news:i0oie2...@mid.individual.net...

> On 11/07/2020 11:34 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 11/7/2020 1:11 PM, Bernhard wrote:
>>> On 11/7/2020 9:13 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:26:35 -0800 (PST), "angelica...@yahoo.com"
>>>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> More votes from a dying cohort of the electorate. There are more
>>>>> voters
>>>>> under 60 than over.
>>>> It depends on where you live and if you mean people who actually vote.
>>>> This is the first election I have seen around here where the number of
>>>> younger voters was actually significant. We did set records maybe more
>>>> than the country as a whole but it is clear, love him or hate him,
>>>> Trump turned out the vote.
>>>
>>> In many areas, there were more votes cast than registered voters.
>>>
>>
>> Surely you have evidence or explanation.
>
> Some states reported phenomenal voter turnouts.

Yes.

> I get suspicious when the historical data is a rather flat line and then
> there's an abrupt spike.

I don’t given the mega shit fight this election turned
into and the fact that both the main contenders got about
the same big increase in the number who voted for them.

Biden just did better than Hitlary which is hardly surprising
given how much better he appeals to blacks and hispanics.

[marika]

How nice
trump built a toilet and now he is going to flush

Biden

That is who is cleaning the house today

mk5000

different clothes
Different cars, different homes, different drive, different life, different rights, different rows
I see them pull up in a Rolls, in a Benz, it depends on the day I suppose==

Voices in My Head
Ocean Wisdom

[rbowman]

On 11/07/2020 04:12 PM, Fred wrote:
>
> Biden just did better than Hitlary which is hardly surprising
> given how much better he appeals to blacks and hispanics.

The Dems should exercise a little care. Biden was an also ran in the
primary until South Carolina where the blacks loved him and he did well
in other southern states. GA and NC still don't have a result but unless
they go blue Biden did not win one state in the Deep South.

That's the problem I see with stringing primaries out over months.
Candidates get discouraged and funding dries up after primaries in
states they aren't going to win.

Then there's the potential VP who couldn't even find her was to Iowa.

[gfre...@aol.com]

Other than some explosive rhetoric and some hurt feelings, not that
much changed.

[gfre...@aol.com]

You can trace a lot of it to the states that allowed people to vote
from their LaZboy and not have to go stand in line somewhere.

[Clare Snyder]

On Sat, 07 Nov 2020 05:03:43 -0500, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 6 Nov 2020 03:43:31 -0800 (PST),

>"angelica...@yahoo.com" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:00:53 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
>>> At the Democratic National Convention and one or two other times when I
>>> saw her, Kamala Harris wore pants.
>>
>>Skirts are for old ladies.
>
>Dresses too?
>

>>I'm 63 and I haven't worn a skirt in 20 years.
>>Many, many women wear pants almost exclusively--especially women
>>under 60.
>
>They look like men when they wear pants. I don't care if the pants are
>tailored differently.
>

>>> Do you think the Democratic ticket would have gotten more votes if she
>>> had worn a dress or skirt some of the time she was on Tv, etc.?
>>
>>Hard to say. The minds of people who would pay attention to that sort
>>of thing are a mystery to me.
>
>I said what's in the OP to a friend and she kept saying it was sexist.
>I said, Yeah it's sexist but it could still be true.
>
>I think pants turn off men any older than I am, 73, and some who are
>younger, and if she wore a dress some of the time, Biden-Harris would
>have gotten more votes.
>

>Even though she is married, not a 9 or 10, and they will never even be
>in the same room with her, I think skirts remind men of many ages of
>their mother, aunt, grandmother, and generate a feeling of kindness or
>welcome in them.
>

>>Cindy Hamilton
You think maybe she should be more like skank Guilfoyle?

There are quite a few pictures of her in a skirt and a few in a dress
- and she wears them as well as she wears the "power suit" and always
madestly.

[Clare Snyder]

Bullshit. Prove it.

[Clare Snyder]

Maybe if his suits fit???

[Bob F]

Or disprove it

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54811410

[Bob F]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/05/fact-check-milwaukee-wards-did-not-have-more-votes-than-voters/6180296002/

[Bob F]

Except 237,000 dead and counting and a totally screwed up country.

[Bob F]

Screw you and you backwards anti voter ideas.

I love voting by mail. I can sit in front of my PC and look up anything
I need to know as I fill out my ballot. And it doesn't matter what the
weather or pandemic is doing.

[Bod]

And you don't have to put up with annoying Trump supporters harrassing
you at the polling station :-)

[Peeler]

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 19:28:10 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> Biden was an also ran

In fact, YOU are an also-ran in every aspect of life, you useless senile
trolling swine!

[angelica...@yahoo.com]

Heh.

I've been mistaken for a man a couple times at the hardware store. I
couldn't care less.

Cindy Hamilton

[angelica...@yahoo.com]

In 2018 the voters of the state of Michigan enacted a ballot proposal to allow
everyone to vote from their LaZboy. The will of the people made directly
into law. Michigan Republicans were hopping mad about it.

Cindy Hamilton

[angelica...@yahoo.com]

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 9:13:46 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:26:35 -0800 (PST), "angelica...@yahoo.com"
> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >More votes from a dying cohort of the electorate. There are more voters
> >under 60 than over.
> It depends on where you live and if you mean people who actually vote.
> This is the first election I have seen around here where the number of
> younger voters was actually significant. We did set records maybe more
> than the country as a whole but it is clear, love him or hate him,
> Trump turned out the vote.

I could "call" your anecdote with one from the college town in which I live,
but what would be the point?

After all the votes are tabulated and made part of the public record, some
social scientist can spreadsheet them and let us know the age breakdown
of those who voted last Tuesday.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ed Pawlowski]

Everyone knows, real votes are the ones cast after standing out in the
cold for an hour or more. Votes made from the comfort of you home just
don't work as well.

[angelica...@yahoo.com]

On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 9:57:04 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Everyone knows, real votes are the ones cast after standing out in the
> cold for an hour or more.

What do they do in Florida? Bring in giant air-conditioners to blow cold
air on the waiting voters?

> Votes made from the comfort of you home just
> don't work as well.

Dang. My vote for Biden didn't work.

Cindy Hamilton

[Grumpy Old White Guy]

The voters standing in line are alive.  The mail-in votes are often registered to deceased voters.  See the difference?

Did you know that Republicans often start voting for democrats after they die?


--
Demolitioncrats are destroying America!

[Ed Pawlowski]

Most of us are just wearing shorts and T shirts so when you enter, they
have a walk-in cooler to stand in for a few minutes to get tortured.
Makes for better votes.

[angelica...@yahoo.com]

On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 11:21:34 AM UTC-5, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote:

> The voters standing in line are alive. The mail-in votes are often registered to deceased voters.

Do you have any evidence?

Cindy Hamilton

[Bod]

I'm getting bored of constantly asking for evidence. It never comes.

[angelica...@yahoo.com]

Yes, it is tiresome, but we cannot let them off the hook.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bod]

Indeed.

[marika]

Not to mention.... Prince Charles

o wait, bad example, that's a kilt and he never stands (or sits) for election

mk5000

Black and silver ruger and it tackle like a raider
I can fix my own plate, who waits on a waiter
Momma going be proud, my hood is too
I'mma remodel street and buy my whole clique coupes--

Shy Glizzy, "Ain't No Way Around It"

[rbowman]

https://www.ktvh.com/news/election-2020/all-mail-ballots-in-montana-how-will-it-work-this-election

iirc, 2000 was the last time I was in a polling place. I was surprised
that 73% of the 2018 vote was mailed in. The only difference I saw with
this year's all-mail balloting was the postage paid envelope. In
previous years I had to put a stamp on. A couple of times there were
off-schedule ballots for limited things like mil levies where I wasn't
interested enough to spend 47 cents or whatever a stamp is these days.

I didn't watch any election coverage but by 7 AM the next morning all
the results were announced, no fuss, no bother. The Democrats lost so
badly across the board they had little choice but to grin and bear it. I
don't recall an election with as wide margins in all offices.

Ah, the relief. My mailbox was empty yesterday. The radio station I
listen to in the morning carried attack ads by the Democratic
candidates. They'll miss the additional revenue. I like their music mix
even if they are stinking lefties :)

[rbowman]

My vote for Bernie in the primary didn't work either... Either time.

[rbowman]

Maybe the social scientists can figure out this result. This is Bernie
country and I could understand the younger voters tossing the ballot in
the trash in disgust but it appears they went full Republican.


https://www.mtpr.org/post/record-turnout-pushed-montana-republican-sweep

An MSU poll released Oct. 14 suggested the governor, Senate and House
races were toss ups within the margin of error. However, preliminary
post-election results from the secretary of state’s office put the GOP
candidates up at least 10 percentage points in each race.

Raile says younger voters may have unexpectedly shifted the results. The
MSU poll placed 18- to 29-year-olds squarely on the side of Democratic
presidential nominee Joe Biden. But exit polls conducted by Edison
Research showed that those same voters turned out overwhelmingly for
Republican President Donald Trump.

“It looks like we have some dormant Republicans, where we had young
people who would vote Republican, who haven't shown up in other
elections. And they showed up this time," Raile says.

[Dean Hoffman]

http://sfcitizen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/go8f1771-copy-copy.jpghttp://sfcitizen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/go8f1771-copy-copy.jpghttp://sfcitizen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/go8f1771-copy-copy.jpg

> Do you think the Democratic ticket would have gotten more votes if she
> had worn a dress or skirt some of the time she was on Tv, etc.?

> If so, what group would have voted for her more?
>
This clothing influenced politics.
<https://thenextweb.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2013/07/hippies.jpg>
<http://sfcitizen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/go8f1771-copy-copy.jpg>
<https://www.seniorsonline.vic.gov.au/~/media/seniors/images/galleries/2012-senior-festival/happy-hippies2-png.png>
Vice presidential candidates don't influence votes very much from
what I've read.
Harris might've been a bit more influential because of Biden's health.
Biden's reason
for choosing her as his running mate still doesn't make sense to me.
Hillary Clinton lost more potential support because of her
speaking style than her clothing choice. She has that scolding tone in her
voice while speaking. The good speakers sound as if they're in the living
room talking to their buddies.

[Peeler]

On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 13:06:11 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> My vote for Bernie in the primary didn't work either... Either time.

But your trolling and trashing of ngs with your endless senile shit works
pretty well for you, doesn't it, senile blabbermouth?

[Peeler]

On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 13:05:10 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> iirc,

Oh, NO! Not yet more senile reminiscences by the senile blabbermouth!

<FLUSH the usual senile shit>

[Peeler]

On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 13:25:35 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> Maybe the social scientists can figure out this result. This is Bernie
> country and I could understand the younger voters tossing the ballot in
> the trash in disgust but it appears they went full Republican.
>
> https://www.mtpr.org/post/record-turnout-pushed-montana-republican-sweep
>
> An MSU poll released Oct. 14 suggested the governor, Senate and House
> races were toss ups within the margin of error. However, preliminary
> post-election results from the secretary of state’s office put the GOP
> candidates up at least 10 percentage points in each race.
>
> Raile says younger voters may have unexpectedly shifted the results. The
> MSU poll placed 18- to 29-year-olds squarely on the side of Democratic
> presidential nominee Joe Biden. But exit polls conducted by Edison
> Research showed that those same voters turned out overwhelmingly for
> Republican President Donald Trump.
>
> “It looks like we have some dormant Republicans, where we had young
> people who would vote Republican, who haven't shown up in other
> elections. And they showed up this time," Raile says.

Wow that was another big load of senile shit dumped in this poor ng, you
sick senile swine! <tsk>

[gfre...@aol.com]

Is there any reason to believe Hillary would have done better?
The Muggles of the world would still be saying no.
We were never going to be able to seal our borders like those islands
Trader is so enamored with.
We also have no way to lock down state borders. When Desantis simply
tried to stop out of state cars and advise them to quarantine, he was
called a fascist.

[gfre...@aol.com]

Lighten up Francis.
I didn't say mail in voting is bad. I vote by mail.
I only said it was the reason why we had better turn out.
You folks need to relax and read a little before you strike.

[gfre...@aol.com]

Florida is a red state and we have been voting by mail for years. It
was one of the reforms that came after the 2000 debacle. I don't
remember any backlash from anyone.

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 04:50:51 -0800 (PST), "angelica...@yahoo.com"

<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 9:13:46 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:26:35 -0800 (PST), "angelica...@yahoo.com"
>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >More votes from a dying cohort of the electorate. There are more voters
>> >under 60 than over.
>> It depends on where you live and if you mean people who actually vote.
>> This is the first election I have seen around here where the number of
>> younger voters was actually significant. We did set records maybe more
>> than the country as a whole but it is clear, love him or hate him,
>> Trump turned out the vote.
>
>I could "call" your anecdote with one from the college town in which I live,
>but what would be the point?
>
>After all the votes are tabulated and made part of the public record, some
>social scientist can spreadsheet them and let us know the age breakdown
>of those who voted last Tuesday.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

OK fair enough but I bet, nationally, the younger vote is record
setting. You can't be blinded by what happens in a college town. Even
in your district, I bet the young vote is up.

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 08:18:13 -0800 (PST), "angelica...@yahoo.com"
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 9:57:04 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Everyone knows, real votes are the ones cast after standing out in the
>> cold for an hour or more.
>
>What do they do in Florida? Bring in giant air-conditioners to blow cold
>air on the waiting voters?

By November it is cool enough here that real Floridians may be wearing
a sweater. You northern folks would still be melting.
My kids are up the road from you in Traverse City and they are still
not used to 69 degree water in August. They are freezing now and you
"ganders" don't even think it is cooling off yet.

[rbowman]

On 11/08/2020 01:41 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> http://sfcitizen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/go8f1771-copy-copy.jpghttp://sfcitizen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/go8f1771-copy-copy.jpghttp://sfcitizen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/go8f1771-copy-copy.jpg
>
>> Do you think the Democratic ticket would have gotten more votes if she
>> had worn a dress or skirt some of the time she was on Tv, etc.?
>
>
>> If so, what group would have voted for her more?
>>
> This clothing influenced politics.
> <https://thenextweb.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2013/07/hippies.jpg>
> <http://sfcitizen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/go8f1771-copy-copy.jpg>
>
> <https://www.seniorsonline.vic.gov.au/~/media/seniors/images/galleries/2012-senior-festival/happy-hippies2-png.png>
>
> Vice presidential candidates don't influence votes very much from
> what I've read.
> Harris might've been a bit more influential because of Biden's health.
> Biden's reason
> for choosing her as his running mate still doesn't make sense to me.

Biden painted himself in a corner by declaring the pick would have to be
a female POC. Even with affirmative action at work there were choices
with more experience and stature. Susan Rice would have brought skills
to offset Biden's weaknesses in foreign relations. Harris brings nothing
to that table in an administration that is faced with repairing
international relations.

[Peeler]

On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 15:37:09 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> Biden painted himself in a corner by declaring the pick would have to be
> a female POC. Even with affirmative action at work there were choices
> with more experience and stature. Susan Rice would have brought skills
> to offset Biden's weaknesses in foreign relations. Harris brings nothing
> to that table in an administration that is faced with repairing
> international relations.

Darn, why didn't he pick YOU, lowbrowwoman! YOU'd have the talent to babble
just about ANYTHING, senile asshole! LOL

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 11/8/2020 4:52 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

>>>> They changed HUGELY for the last 4 years. Enough already!
>>>
>>> Other than some explosive rhetoric and some hurt feelings, not that
>>> much changed.
>>>
>>
>> Except 237,000 dead and counting and a totally screwed up country.
>
> Is there any reason to believe Hillary would have done better?
> The Muggles of the world would still be saying no.
> We were never going to be able to seal our borders like those islands
> Trader is so enamored with.
> We also have no way to lock down state borders. When Desantis simply
> tried to stop out of state cars and advise them to quarantine, he was
> called a fascist.
>

No one would get it to zero. Most anyone could have done better. If,
from day 1 the President, no matter who held the office, told the truth,
made some recommendations, led by example, many lives could have been
saved.

A different leader probably would not have disbanded the pandemic group,
would have carried through sending two masks to each household as
start, not told people it would be gone in a couple of weeks.

Many lives could have been saved.

[Bob F]

There are masks, and distancing, and testing and tracking, All of which
Hillary would have been way more likely to act with quickly, instead of
letting covid go wild like stupid denier trump did.


"Early on, the dozen federal officials charged with defending America
against the coronavirus gathered day after day in the White House
Situation Room, consumed by crises. They grappled with how to evacuate
the United States consulate in Wuhan, China, ban Chinese travelers and
extract Americans from the Diamond Princess and other cruise ships.

The members of the coronavirus task force typically devoted only five or
10 minutes, often at the end of contentious meetings, to talk about
testing, several participants recalled. The Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention, its leaders assured the others, had developed a
diagnostic model that would be rolled out quickly as a first step.

But as the deadly virus spread from China with ferocity across the
United States between late January and early March, large-scale testing
of people who might have been infected did not happen — because of
technical flaws, regulatory hurdles, business-as-usual bureaucracies and
lack of leadership at multiple levels, according to interviews with more
than 50 current and former public health officials, administration
officials, senior scientists and company executives.

The result was a lost month, when the world’s richest country — armed
with some of the most highly trained scientists and infectious disease
specialists — squandered its best chance of containing the virus’s
spread. Instead, Americans were left largely blind to the scale of a
looming public health catastrophe.

The absence of robust screening until it was “far too late” revealed
failures across the government, said Dr. Thomas Frieden, the former
C.D.C. director. Jennifer Nuzzo, an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins,
said the Trump administration had “incredibly limited” views of the
pathogen’s potential impact. Dr. Margaret Hamburg, the former
commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, said the lapse enabled
“exponential growth of cases.”

And Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, a top government scientist involved in the
fight against the virus, told members of Congress that the early
inability to test was “a failing” of the administration’s response to a
deadly, global pandemic. “Why,” he asked later in a magazine interview,
“were we not able to mobilize on a broader scale?”

Across the government, they said, three agencies responsible for
detecting and combating threats like the coronavirus failed to prepare
quickly enough. Even as scientists looked at China and sounded alarms,
none of the agencies’ directors conveyed the urgency required to spur a
no-holds-barred defense.

Dr. Robert R. Redfield, 68, a former military doctor and prominent AIDS
researcher who directs the C.D.C., trusted his veteran scientists to
create the world’s most precise test for the coronavirus and share it
with state laboratories. When flaws in the test became apparent in
February, he promised a quick fix, though it took weeks to settle on a
solution.

The C.D.C. also tightly restricted who could get tested and was slow to
conduct “community-based surveillance,” a standard screening practice to
detect the virus’s reach. Had the United States been able to track its
earliest movements and identify hidden hot spots, local quarantines
might have confined the disease.

Dr. Stephen Hahn, 60, the commissioner of the Food and Drug
Administration, enforced regulations that paradoxically made it tougher
for hospitals, private clinics and companies to deploy diagnostic tests
in an emergency. Other countries that had mobilized businesses were
performing tens of thousands of tests daily, compared with fewer than
100 on average in the United States, frustrating local health officials,
lawmakers and desperate Americans."


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/us/testing-coronavirus-pandemic.html

[gfre...@aol.com]

Monday morning quarterbacks would have won every game.
If you can point to a similar country that actually did it right I am
all ears. That is not going to be any island or any Asian culture tho.
We ain't them.
There is really nothing out there like the US (Geographically or
culture wise) so comparisons are hard to find.
The same people who are not distancing, not wearing masks and not
washing their hands would even be less likely to do it Hillary told
them to.
The kids who are driving the numbers now won't do anything adults tell
them to do, even if it means getting kicked out of college, without a
refund.

<https://www.mynbc5.com/article/students-covid-19-refunds/34587322>

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 07 Nov 2020 12:50:14 -0500, micky
<NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:

>
>>
>>Apart from cocktail and evening dresses, yes. Sure, some young women
>>wear skirts to show off their legs. But they also spend a fair amount
>>of time in pants.
>
>I wasn't suggesting Harris (or Hillary) never wear pants. I think they
>both would have gotten more votes if they were seen wearing skirts some
>of the time.

>
>>> >I'm 63 and I haven't worn a skirt in 20 years.
>>> >Many, many women wear pants almost exclusively--especially women
>>> >under 60.
>>> They look like men when they wear pants. I don't care if the pants are
>>> tailored differently.
>>

>>So what? What difference does it make if they look like men?
>
>It's nerve-wracking if a woman looks like a man, just as it is if a man
>looks like a woman.

Let me try a different argument. If it can be that some men are less
likely to vote for a woman (and I've heard that many time), then I think
it can just as easily be true that some are more likely to vote for a
woman. And a skirt reminds all or some of those that she is a woman,
and increases the effect.

[Clare Snyder]

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 19:55:34 -0800, Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 11/7/2020 7:38 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 13:11:51 -0500, Bernhard
>> <bernhar...@century.link> wrote:

>>
>>> On 11/7/2020 9:13 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:26:35 -0800 (PST), "angelica...@yahoo.com"

>>>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> More votes from a dying cohort of the electorate. There are more voters
>>>>> under 60 than over.

>>>> It depends on where you live and if you mean people who actually vote.
>>>> This is the first election I have seen around here where the number of
>>>> younger voters was actually significant. We did set records maybe more
>>>> than the country as a whole but it is clear, love him or hate him,
>>>> Trump turned out the vote.
>>>

>>> In many areas, there were more votes cast than registered voters.

>> Bullshit. Prove it.
>>
>
>Or disprove it
>
>https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54811410
Sorry - I missed the "registered" - Many people who were not
"registered" to vote but were "eligible" to vote basically registered
on the spot

[Ed Pawlowski]

Saving lives is much easier if, right at the start you take action. You
don't go on TV and tell people not to worry, it will be gone my April
You don't lie about it. That is criminal.

Again, it would not wipe it out but it would have saved lives. No, I
don't know if it would be 20,000 or 120,000 but doing nothing is just
plain dumb.

People still get killed crossing the street because the did not look,
but most of us learned what to do. Avoiding infection is not much
different, just start to do the right thing when you know.

The apostles of the present administration follow their leader he set a
bad example from the start and they followed with full arrogance.

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 7 Nov 2020 19:55:34 -0800, Bob F

<bobn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 11/7/2020 7:38 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 13:11:51 -0500, Bernhard
>> <bernhar...@century.link> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/7/2020 9:13 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:26:35 -0800 (PST), "angelica...@yahoo.com"
>>>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> More votes from a dying cohort of the electorate. There are more voters
>>>>> under 60 than over.
>>>> It depends on where you live and if you mean people who actually vote.
>>>> This is the first election I have seen around here where the number of
>>>> younger voters was actually significant. We did set records maybe more
>>>> than the country as a whole but it is clear, love him or hate him,
>>>> Trump turned out the vote.
>>>
>>> In many areas, there were more votes cast than registered voters.
>> Bullshit. Prove it.
>>
>
>Or disprove it
>
>https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54811410

I think the first picture there proves it. Obviously, she's gone around
the n'hood and collected abou 30 ballots, she's marked them all and now
she's voting them for the Democrats. She's so brazen she let her picture
be taken.

[Bob F]

Just keep diggin' yourself deeper.

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 7 Nov 2020 16:36:35 -0800 (PST), marika
<marik...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 2:32:37 PM UTC-6, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 13:34:59 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>>
>> >On 11/7/2020 1:11 PM, Bernhard wrote:
>> >> On 11/7/2020 9:13 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> >>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:26:35 -0800 (PST), "angelica...@yahoo.com"
>> >>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> More votes from a dying cohort of the electorate.  There are more voters
>> >>>> under 60 than over.
>> >>> It depends on where you live and if you mean people who actually vote.
>> >>> This is the first election I have seen around here where the number of
>> >>> younger voters was actually significant. We did set records maybe more
>> >>> than the country as a whole but it is clear, love him or hate him,
>> >>> Trump turned out the vote.
>> >>
>> >> In many areas, there were more votes cast than registered voters.
>> >>
>> >

>> >Surely you have evidence or explanation.
>>

>> The excuse I have heard is "same day registration". They didn't show

It's an explanation, not an excuse. IN one or more states, the states
report percent of eligible voters while the precinct report percent of
registered voters. Maybe they shouldn't but they've been doing this for
years.

So say there are 1000 registed voters in a district and they all vote
and 100 register on election day and vote, 1100 altogether, then they
show 110% voting.

Or if 900 of the 1000 vote but 200 register on election day. Same total
1100.

In other years, people ask How come and they get it explained. Only
this year, when trump says if someone sneezes that he's stealing a vote.
The thing to remember is that trump is a constant liar, and there is no
reason to believe a word he says.

>> up in the statistics about registered voters. That will be easy to
>> prove or disprove and with this guy, you know they will have to prove
>> everything.
>> If Trump doesn't just take his ball and go home, this mess will make
>> Bush v Gore look like a landslide.
>> I am personally hoping for the former. We have enough problems without
>> starting that kind of food fight again.
>> Bear in mind, Gore didn't give up until December 12.
>> I am just happy we are not in that mess down here.
>> Florida finally did something right.
>> Maybe they will start the "Philadelphia Man" jokes now. ;-)
>
>How nice
>trump built a toilet and now he is going to flush
>
>Biden
>
>That is who is cleaning the house today
>
>mk5000
>
>different clothes
>Different cars, different homes, different drive, different life, different rights, different rows
>I see them pull up in a Rolls, in a Benz, it depends on the day I suppose==
>
>Voices in My Head
>Ocean Wisdom

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 7 Nov 2020 20:40:48 -0800, Bob F

<bobn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 11/7/2020 7:11 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 14:38:23 -0700, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>

>>> On 11/07/2020 11:34 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 11/7/2020 1:11 PM, Bernhard wrote:
>>>>> On 11/7/2020 9:13 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:26:35 -0800 (PST), "angelica...@yahoo.com"
>>>>>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More votes from a dying cohort of the electorate. There are more
>>>>>>> voters
>>>>>>> under 60 than over.
>>>>>> It depends on where you live and if you mean people who actually vote.
>>>>>> This is the first election I have seen around here where the number of
>>>>>> younger voters was actually significant. We did set records maybe more
>>>>>> than the country as a whole but it is clear, love him or hate him,
>>>>>> Trump turned out the vote.
>>>>>
>>>>> In many areas, there were more votes cast than registered voters.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Surely you have evidence or explanation.
>>>

>>> Some states reported phenomenal voter turnouts. I get suspicious when
>>> the historical data is a rather flat line and then there's an abrupt spike.
>>
>> You can trace a lot of it to the states that allowed people to vote
>> from their LaZboy and not have to go stand in line somewhere.
>>
>

>Screw you and you backwards anti voter ideas.
>
>I love voting by mail. I can sit in front of my PC and look up anything
>I need to know as I fill out my ballot. And it doesn't matter what the
>weather or pandemic is doing.

I thought it was good too. For once I could examine all the Baltimore
County bond proposals. I even subscribed to the Baltimore Sun becuase
they was the only I got on bonds. So what did it say, There are also 11
bond proposals on the ballot. !!!!

Good thing it only cost $1 for 8 weeks.

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 7 Nov 2020 09:31:02 -0800, Bob F
<bobn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 11/7/2020 2:03 AM, micky wrote:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 6 Nov 2020 03:43:31 -0800 (PST),

>> "angelica...@yahoo.com" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:00:53 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
>>>> At the Democratic National Convention and one or two other times when I
>>>> saw her, Kamala Harris wore pants.
>>>
>>> Skirts are for old ladies.
>>
>> Dresses too?
>>

>>> I'm 63 and I haven't worn a skirt in 20 years.
>>> Many, many women wear pants almost exclusively--especially women
>>> under 60.
>>
>> They look like men when they wear pants. I don't care if the pants are
>> tailored differently.
>>

>>>> Do you think the Democratic ticket would have gotten more votes if she
>>>> had worn a dress or skirt some of the time she was on Tv, etc.?
>>>

>>> Hard to say. The minds of people who would pay attention to that sort
>>> of thing are a mystery to me.
>>
>> I said what's in the OP to a friend and she kept saying it was sexist.
>> I said, Yeah it's sexist but it could still be true.
>>
>> I think pants turn off men any older than I am, 73, and some who are
>> younger, and if she wore a dress some of the time, Biden-Harris would
>> have gotten more votes.
>

>BS - We all know how much you like to see a woman in tight jeans.

No you don't. I like looking at female but jean, tight or not, do
nothing for me.

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 07 Nov 2020 22:36:27 -0500, Clare Snyder
<cl...@snyder.on.ca> wrote:

>On Sat, 07 Nov 2020 05:03:43 -0500, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>

>wrote:
>
>>In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 6 Nov 2020 03:43:31 -0800 (PST),
>>"angelica...@yahoo.com" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:00:53 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
>>>> At the Democratic National Convention and one or two other times when I
>>>> saw her, Kamala Harris wore pants.
>>>
>>>Skirts are for old ladies.
>>
>>Dresses too?
>>
>>>I'm 63 and I haven't worn a skirt in 20 years.
>>>Many, many women wear pants almost exclusively--especially women
>>>under 60.
>>
>>They look like men when they wear pants. I don't care if the pants are
>>tailored differently.
>>
>>>> Do you think the Democratic ticket would have gotten more votes if she
>>>> had worn a dress or skirt some of the time she was on Tv, etc.?
>>>
>>>Hard to say. The minds of people who would pay attention to that sort
>>>of thing are a mystery to me.
>>
>>I said what's in the OP to a friend and she kept saying it was sexist.
>>I said, Yeah it's sexist but it could still be true.
>>
>>I think pants turn off men any older than I am, 73, and some who are
>>younger, and if she wore a dress some of the time, Biden-Harris would
>>have gotten more votes.
>>

>>Even though she is married, not a 9 or 10, and they will never even be
>>in the same room with her, I think skirts remind men of many ages of
>>their mother, aunt, grandmother, and generate a feeling of kindness or
>>welcome in them.
>>
>>>Cindy Hamilton

> You think maybe she should be more like skank Guilfoyle?

I've heard her name, but I don't know what she looks like

I went to go look at her but now is a bad time. I got a new computer 2
weeks ago and I can't find right resolution to use, so most people have
a fat face. But not everyone. It's strange. On a map, Indiana and
Illinois are short and squat.

But a bigger point is that a skank (acc. you) wearing a skirt doesn't
make everyone who wears a skirt into a skank. I think that question was
on the SATs.

> There are quite a few pictures of her in a skirt and a few in a dress
>- and she wears them as well as she wears the "power suit" and always
>madestly.

That's good.

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 8 Nov 2020 14:41:03 -0600, Dean Hoffman

<deanh...@clod.com> wrote:

>http://sfcitizen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/go8f1771-copy-copy.jpghttp://sfcitizen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/go8f1771-copy-copy.jpghttp://sfcitizen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/go8f1771-copy-copy.jpg
>> Do you think the Democratic ticket would have gotten more votes if she
>> had worn a dress or skirt some of the time she was on Tv, etc.?
>
>
>> If so, what group would have voted for her more?
>>
> This clothing influenced politics.
><https://thenextweb.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2013/07/hippies.jpg>
><http://sfcitizen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/go8f1771-copy-copy.jpg>
><https://www.seniorsonline.vic.gov.au/~/media/seniors/images/galleries/2012-senior-festival/happy-hippies2-png.png>
> Vice presidential candidates don't influence votes very much from
>what I've read.

That would make sense,but I'm thinking of subliminal influences.

Look at how much effort they put into designing campaign signs, and
choosing a campaign song (though this year I didn't hear any music until
the speech Saturday night, and I asked some Hillary suporters 4 years
ago what her song was. They said, "I don't know. I guess it's [some
currently popular song about strong women] I thought that was a mistake.
You shouldn't need a song about women to get women who think that is
very imporant to vote for a woman. You should have a song that everyone
likes. Or one with a message that everyone appeciates. "Dont stop
thinking about tomorrow." Bill clinton's song, and a very good lyric.)

>Harris might've been a bit more influential because of Biden's health.
> Biden's reason
>for choosing her as his running mate still doesn't make sense to me.
> Hillary Clinton lost more potential support because of her
>speaking style than her clothing choice.

Maybe so, but every group of votes helps and it's easier to change
clothes than to improve one's speaking style. You just have someone
buy what you should wear and you wear it.

> She has that scolding tone in her
>voice while speaking.

I rarely if ever noticed that. All I noticed were her pants suits. She
wore a dress to Bill's inauguration parties and she looked okay, fine.

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Sun, 08 Nov 2020 21:28:40 -0500, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
wrote:

Women politicians have as much trouble attracting women's votes as
men. That seems to be particularly true in the primaries when there is
no party issue and the platforms are similar.

[gfre...@aol.com]

You are not taking into account the impact of "covid fatigue". If you
make the precautions too draconian, Americans will be more likely to
buck.
It gets to the point where people say "Fuck it, if this is what my
life is going to be, I will take my chances with Covid".
That is particularly true in the demographics where serious
complications are thought to be rare.

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Sun, 08 Nov 2020 23:38:28 -0500, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>I got a new computer 2
>weeks ago and I can't find right resolution to use,

Wide screen monitor?
Get your calculator out and be sure the ratio is 16:9. It sounds like
you are using 4/3 resolutions.

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 08 Nov 2020 23:15:33 -0500, micky

BTW, if this were improper, do you think the states and counties would
be reporting it?

[Jimmy Kauffenhak]

On 11/8/20 9:39 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Saving lives is much easier if, right at the start you take action.  You don't go on TV and tell people not to worry, it will be gone my April You don't lie about it.  That is criminal.
>
> Again, it would not wipe it out but it would have saved lives. No, I don't know if it would be 20,000 or 120,000 but doing nothing is just plain dumb.

I don't wear a mask nor do I social distance.  If I get the coronavirus-19 my immune system will just kick it to the curb like every other virus.

Why are so many people acting like millennial snowflakes?  Good grief!

[Bod]

What a fool you are.

Man who slated coronavirus ‘hype’ and vowed not to wear mask is killed
by Covid-19

https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/14/healthy-man-who-blasted-coronavirus-hype-refused-wear-mask-killed-12987711/?ito=cbshare

[FromTheRafters]

Jimmy Kauffenhak was thinking very hard :

Because they have a better understanding of the situation, they take
precautions. That does not make them 'snowflakes' it just means that
they are smarter than you are.

[angelica...@yahoo.com]

I'm not used to 69 degree weather in November. A year ago we had 6" of
snow for Veterans' Day. Today we're running the air conditioning.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bob F]

Who isn't?

[Bob F]

Look up the spec for the monitor for it's native resolution and set it
there.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 11/9/2020 12:56 AM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

>
> Women politicians have as much trouble attracting women's votes as
> men. That seems to be particularly true in the primaries when there is
> no party issue and the platforms are similar.
>

Women are most critical of women too. In the case of Hillary, most men
just looked at her as someone they wanted to cuddle up with. Well,
maybe not.

[FromTheRafters]

angelica...@yahoo.com wrote :
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 5:05:19 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 08:18:13 -0800 (PST), "angelica...@yahoo.com"
>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 9:57:04 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> Everyone knows, real votes are the ones cast after standing out in the
>>>> cold for an hour or more.
>>>
>>> What do they do in Florida? Bring in giant air-conditioners to blow cold
>>> air on the waiting voters?
>> By November it is cool enough here that real Floridians may be wearing
>> a sweater. You northern folks would still be melting.
>> My kids are up the road from you in Traverse City and they are still
>> not used to 69 degree water in August. They are freezing now and you
>> "ganders" don't even think it is cooling off yet.
>
> I'm not used to 69 degree weather in November. A year ago we had 6" of
> snow for Veterans' Day. Today we're running the air conditioning.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

A few years ago we had two feet of snow on Halloween. Yesterday it was
supposed to be 76 and I bet it was that or more.

[gfre...@aol.com]

We have a tropical storm that just won't go away.

[Jim Joyce]

On Sun, 08 Nov 2020 21:28:40 -0500, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:

Somehow I feel like you're only moments away from reminding us that
Beaver's mom never wore pants. On the Andy Griffith show, sometimes women
wore pants, especially if they were going fishing or on a picnic with Andy.

That period in time is far removed from this period in time. Personally, I
don't care in the slightest what a woman wears as long as it's appropriate
for the circumstances. I hold men to the same standard.

Shorts, a profane t-shirt, and bare feet are fine in the back yard by the
grill and the pool, but no one wears that attire when they go to the
office.

Women shouldn't wear pants? Says who? Not me, that's for sure.

[Clare Snyder]

On Sun, 08 Nov 2020 23:38:28 -0500, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>

She's Donnie Jrs new girfriend and offered a lapdance to whoever
donated the most to the Trump campaign at a fund-raiser - which is why
I called her a "skank".

[Clare Snyder]

With a name like Cough and Hack you wouldn't even know you'd been
infected 'till you were dead???

[Clare Snyder]

Likely wouldn't take much, either.

[Clare Snyder]

On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 06:32:03 -0800 (PST), "angelica...@yahoo.com"

<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 5:05:19 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 08:18:13 -0800 (PST), "angelica...@yahoo.com"
>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 9:57:04 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >> Everyone knows, real votes are the ones cast after standing out in the
>> >> cold for an hour or more.
>> >
>> >What do they do in Florida? Bring in giant air-conditioners to blow cold
>> >air on the waiting voters?
>> By November it is cool enough here that real Floridians may be wearing
>> a sweater. You northern folks would still be melting.
>> My kids are up the road from you in Traverse City and they are still
>> not used to 69 degree water in August. They are freezing now and you
>> "ganders" don't even think it is cooling off yet.
>
>I'm not used to 69 degree weather in November. A year ago we had 6" of
>snow for Veterans' Day. Today we're running the air conditioning.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Broke records 3 days in a row up here in "the great white north" at
about 70F

[rbowman]

Cuddling up with Hillary would leave me seriously considering a sex
change. She might like that though.

[Peeler]

On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 19:35:48 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

>
> Cuddling up with Hillary would leave me seriously considering a sex
> change. She might like that though.

I've ALWAYS considerd you a woman, lowbrowwoman! I mean your psychological
make-up, your endless prattling and gossiping, is that of a woman, not a
man.

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 9 Nov 2020 06:37:44 -0800, Bob F

Windows recommended the highest resolution, at least the highest in the
list it provided, but when I did that the print was too small for me to
read. ;=( I'll go try again when I have time.