Fastening things to metal or fiberglass doors

[Bill Gill]

I have 2 new exterior doors, one is metal and the other is fiberglass.
I need to attach some things to them. I need to put curtains
on one and a door stop on the other. Are there any special
problems with doing that? My first thought of course just to drill
pilot holes and put in screws. Would that work ok?

Bill

[Stormin Mormon]

Sounds reasonable, to me.

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[Doug Miller]

Bill Gill <bill...@cox.net> wrote in news:jm6kcl$hvr$1...@dont-email.me:

Depends on which is which... If the door stop is going on the fiberglass door, you'd better
make sure there's some reinforcement (such as a wooden core) where you attach the stop,
otherwise, I think every time the door stop hits the wall, it's going to crack the fiberglass a little
bit until eventually a big chunk of it breaks out.

And if the curtains are going on the steel door, consider laying the curtain rod across hooks
with magnetic bases. Assuming you mean light-weight sheers, that is, not heavy drapes.

[dadiOH]

Maybe. Rivets would probably be better. Rivets with threaded interior
would make what you are putting on easily removeable.


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[DanG]

Are you talking about a commercial 18 gauge metal door or one of the
residential "shells"? 18 gauge will hold self drilling screws just
fine. I think I would consider RivNuts, NutSerts or equal for a typical
light weight configuration. Pop Rivets will be Ok, but marginal.
Screws out mid span without something inside will be iffy at best.

Commercial work would use Sex bolts like this:
http://www.boltdepot.com/Sex_bolts_and_Mating_screws.aspx

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[Bill Gill]

On 4/12/2012 6:14 PM, DanG wrote:
> On 4/12/2012 8:12 AM, Bill Gill wrote:
>> I have 2 new exterior doors, one is metal and the other is fiberglass.
>> I need to attach some things to them. I need to put curtains
>> on one and a door stop on the other. Are there any special
>> problems with doing that? My first thought of course just to drill
>> pilot holes and put in screws. Would that work ok?
>>
>> Bill
>
> Are you talking about a commercial 18 gauge metal door or one of the
> residential "shells"? 18 gauge will hold self drilling screws just fine.
> I think I would consider RivNuts, NutSerts or equal for a typical light
> weight configuration. Pop Rivets will be Ok, but marginal. Screws out
> mid span without something inside will be iffy at best.
>
> Commercial work would use Sex bolts like this:
> http://www.boltdepot.com/Sex_bolts_and_Mating_screws.aspx
>

I was kind of wondering about that. I finally found information
on the door and the shell is .0219" iron. About 25 gauge. That
is pretty thin, and there will be little structural strength. The
core is foam. It makes a nicely insulated door, but I'm kind of
worried about trying to screw anything to it. And there don't
seem to be any internal structural parts, so there isn't any place
that would provide the support needed.

The other door is fiberglass, and I assume that the fiberglass isn't
much thinker than the metal. So I am even wondering about how to mount
the curtains. In that case there may be something around the
window, but I'm not sure. I may try with a stud sensor and see
if I can come up with anything. It might catch a change in
density.

Bill

[Jim Rusling]

Bill Gill <bill...@cox.net> wrote:

<snip>

>I was kind of wondering about that. I finally found information
>on the door and the shell is .0219" iron. About 25 gauge. That
>is pretty thin, and there will be little structural strength. The
>core is foam. It makes a nicely insulated door, but I'm kind of
>worried about trying to screw anything to it. And there don't
>seem to be any internal structural parts, so there isn't any place
>that would provide the support needed.
>
>The other door is fiberglass, and I assume that the fiberglass isn't
>much thinker than the metal. So I am even wondering about how to mount
>the curtains. In that case there may be something around the
>window, but I'm not sure. I may try with a stud sensor and see
>if I can come up with anything. It might catch a change in
>density.
>
>Bill

For the metal door, you might try some rare earth magnets. I am using
some to hold a handle on a heavy steel door and they are doing a
pretty good job if you don't try and open the door too quick.
--
Jim Rusling
More or Less Retired
Mustang, OK
www.rusling.org

[Bill Gill]

On 4/12/2012 8:12 AM, Bill Gill wrote:

Ok, after the answers I got here and doing some research I have
decided that I shouldn't try very hard to attach anything to my
new doors using screws. I found that the fiberglass door has a
frame around the outside and nothing much else to provide a
structure to fasten into. The window in that door is fairly
wide, so I will use a longer curtain rod and fasten the supports
to the frame near the edges. That isn't exactly the way I would
like to do it, but it will work.

And for the metal door in the kitchen. I will have to find a
magnet to use as a hanger for the framed poster that I want
to hang on it. Does anybody know where I can get a longish
(probably 6 inches to a foot) flat magnet to put on the back
of the poster frame? And for a door stop I can just hang a soft
rope on the wall and when I want to stop the door from blowing
shut I can pull it around the edge of the door and hook it over
the handle. But I don't want to try screwing anything into
the field of either door.

Bill

[Jim Rusling]

Go to amazon.com and search for rare earth magnets. You may have to
use multiple round magnets. This is what I used to attach a handle to
a heavy steel door. This company make a lot of different sizes.

[David Combs]

In article <jmbtcq$jtn$1...@dont-email.me>, Bill Gill <bill...@cox.net> wrote:
>On 4/12/2012 8:12 AM, Bill Gill wrote:

re Door Stop

Probably the 10th time I've posted this info from long ago,
and no responses, so I guess they aren't made any more.

When I was a kid (1950's), we had a screen door that
pulled shut via a long spring. BANG!

To keep the bang from happening, we had a rubber ball,
maybe 3/4ths inch diameter, hanging 1.5 inches or so
down, at the slamming edge of the door.

Open the door, walk through, and let loose, and the
centrifigal (sp?) force flung (word?) the ball outward
enough to be between the door and the frame, and so
the door bounced, the ball returned to hanging straight
down, and this time the door closed.

Hain't seen one since forever.

Anyone know if they still make them?

David

[Jim Elbrecht]

I was curious enough to google it-
$18
http://www.rusticworkbench.com/prod/doorball.htm

With pictures that are worth 10,000 words at least. I wasn't
understanding you, but now I see how simple it is.

We let 'em slam. Kept the comings and goings easier to track.

Now we have hydraulics on them.

Jim
>
>David
>

[David Combs]

In article <d4m9s7l8m2vuf3e5i...@4ax.com>,
Jim Elbrecht <elbr...@email.com> wrote:
...


Well, you're way smarter than I am.

"doorball" or "door ball", to google for.

Don't know why, but I would have never thought of
that.

THANKS!

David

[Jean Walsh]

replying to David Combs , Jean Walsh wrote:
> dkcombs wrote\:
>
> In article <d4m9s7l8m2vuf3e5i...@4ax.com>,

> ...
> Well, you're way smarter than I am.
> "doorball" or "door ball", to google for.
> Don't know why, but I would have never thought of
> that.
> THANKS!
> David

There are curtain rods you can put on metal doors that will hold curtains
if that is what you are looking for
They have magnets in the ends so no screws are required, they just attach
themselves to the door where you put them.
I bought some at JCPenney and there may be other stores that carry them.
I don't know how to fasten
curtains to Fiberglass doors, but I would like to know.

Jean


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[Mary Berry]

replying to Bill Gill, Mary Berry wrote:
You can place a 3M hook on the inside of the door upside down. Then attach a
ribbon to it and drape it over the top of the door loop through your Wreath
and then tie ribbon together.

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[Oscar the Grouch]

replying to Mary Berry, Oscar the Grouch wrote:
That’s actually a brilliant idea! Quick, easy, fairly reliable, doesn’t
mar the door, and is easily removed. Brilliant!