Bypassing Electric Meter
Al Moran
house to grow pot. In the story they said that the electric meters
were bypassed. How is a meter bypassed without killing yourself?
Tony Hwang
It's very easy but illegal. Just need a little jumper wire.
komobu
In Virginia, it is pretty easy. My house had aluminum wiring, and I
replaced the whole electrical system with copper. Anyways, there is a
security seal at the bottom of the meter box. When it is removed, a
cover hinges up and the Glass meter can be pulled straight out. Then
you will be looking at 4 prongs. The top two prongs go to the power
pole. The bottom two go to the hous circut breaker box. (I had to
replace this wire to the breaker box in my house). Anyways, you could
jump the prongs rather easily with copper wire. It would help if you
knew when the meter reader was coming around so you could place the
glass meter back in. If you took the time with the security seal, the
reader would probably never notice it....he just takes the numbers down
and move to the next house.
pipedown
"Tony Hwang" <drag...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Sf8Jg.484297$iF6.435245@pd7tw2no...
And with some meters if you plug it in backwards, it runs backwards.
Their software would flag an existing customer with extreme variations in
usage as this could indicate a problem with equipment requiring a look but a
new customer might go unnoticed with unlikely usage. Steal enough
electricity and it becomes a Felony.
Indoor pot farmers are often busted either by the electric usage pattern or
by causing fires while ignoring electrical code. Narcing neighbors too.
Al Moran
>
>In Virginia, it is pretty easy. My house had aluminum wiring, and I
>replaced the whole electrical system with copper. Anyways, there is a
>security seal at the bottom of the meter box. When it is removed, a
>cover hinges up and the Glass meter can be pulled straight out. Then
>you will be looking at 4 prongs. The top two prongs go to the power
>pole. The bottom two go to the hous circut breaker box. (I had to
>replace this wire to the breaker box in my house). Anyways, you could
>jump the prongs rather easily with copper wire. It would help if you
>knew when the meter reader was coming around so you could place the
>glass meter back in. If you took the time with the security seal, the
>reader would probably never notice it....he just takes the numbers down
>and move to the next house.
But what I don't get is that at least one set of the prongs must be
hot. How would they connect anything to it without getting zapped
?
Joseph Meehan
Very carefully. Yea, I have done it, (with the electric company's
blessing) . I don't suggest anyone who has to ask how consider doing it as
missing one step could be your last one.
--
Joseph Meehan
Dia duit
Al Moran
<sligojo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Very carefully. Yea, I have done it, (with the electric company's
>blessing) . I don't suggest anyone who has to ask how consider doing it as
>missing one step could be your last one.
I have no intentions of trying it. Just curious how you would do it
and still be alive to talk about it.
komobu
> But what I don't get is that at least one set of the prongs must be
> hot. How would they connect anything to it without getting zapped
> ?
Actually, both legs are hot. Each leg is 110v, so together you get 220v
service. The third leg goes straigt to the circuit panel and that is
the return, so for 110v, you are using one of the legs and the return.
Anyways, if your jumper is plastic sheilded you would be alright, or if
you wear ruber or leather gloves. Another very common senario is that
theives steel the glass meter from a vacant property. Then they simply
swap meters. The stolen meter would be used for two to three weeks, and
then swapped again until the meter reader comes by. This way all the
time that electricity is being used while the stolen meter is inplace,
is not being charged to the occupyer. If one does that for 15 to 22
days a month, it results in in 50% to 75% of the electrical usage not
appearing on his bill.
Jack
Now that some companys use the latest tech of remote meter reading
tampering with the meter could go on for quite awhile, before the
electric company became aware of it. Usually when they are caught the
judges are not very lenient in the sentence. You steal you Pay.
Jack
HeyBub
Heh!
When doing a census for a Rural Electric Co-op, we found more than one
person who had bought their own TRANSFORMER and tapped into the 7,200 volt
mains.
Look, if a lineman can fiddle with umpty-ump volts on the job, he can
certainly do it off the clock.
Buck Turgidson
they just look for zero (or ultra-low) wattage users, too?
James "Cubby" Culbertson
"Al Moran" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have no intentions of trying it. Just curious how you would do it
> and still be alive to talk about it.
There are lots of times work is done on hot systems. Many precautions need
to be done but essentially wearing the correct protective equipment
(gloves, isolation mats, etc...) presents a pretty safe environment. How
do you think those guys working on the high voltage power distribution lines
do it? They certainly don't shut the line down for some routine
maintenance (depends on the maintenance I suppose). Personally, I wouldn't
want to do it but that's why those guys make the money they do.
Cheers,
cc
hah
<sligojo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
First, build a mud wall at least a foot high all around the meter and
fill it with salt water. Wash your hands thoroughly in the salt water
and keep them wet. Stand in the pool while working on the meter.
Mike Plate
Over the past year all the homes in my town (Central Mass.) have been
converted over to digital meters with some type of Tough
plexiglass/plastic cover. I haven't seen a meter reader since. Also
the literature I saw on the new meters stated that they were not only
for metering service but for regulating so if there were some problem
it would be identified. I am not sure what the "problems" could be
(tapping service) or how it would phone home with an issue, just send a
signal over the line?
dpb
Jack wrote:
> Al Moran wrote:
> > Recently read a story in the local news about someone using rented
> > house to grow pot. In the story they said that the electric meters
> > were bypassed. How is a meter bypassed without killing yourself?
>
>
> Now that some companys use the latest tech of remote meter reading
> tampering with the meter could go on for quite awhile, before the
Actually, w/ remote monitoring and latest technology, the utility
company becomes aware of it essentially instantaneously--that's one of
the points of the remote (as in automated) monitoring besides the cost
reduction of eliminating meter-readers...
http://www.itron.com/pages/products_detail.asp?id=itr_000240.xml
for a overview of current technology for one particular meter/vendor...
Doug Miller
>There are lots of times work is done on hot systems. Many precautions need
>to be done but essentially wearing the correct protective equipment
>(gloves, isolation mats, etc...) presents a pretty safe environment. How
>do you think those guys working on the high voltage power distribution lines
>do it?
From a helicopter.
I used to live right across the road from a 750KV transmission line, and
watched them doing maintenance several times. Really awesome to watch. I have
a lot of respect for both the electrician *and* the pilot.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
Robert Gammon
> In article <uKOdneUoHpyiO2jZ...@comcast.com>, "James \"Cubby\" Culbertson" <Nos...@null.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>> There are lots of times work is done on hot systems. Many precautions need
>> to be done but essentially wearing the correct protective equipment
>> (gloves, isolation mats, etc...) presents a pretty safe environment. How
>> do you think those guys working on the high voltage power distribution lines
>> do it?
>>
>
> From a helicopter.
>
> I used to live right across the road from a 750KV transmission line, and
> watched them doing maintenance several times. Really awesome to watch. I have
> a lot of respect for both the electrician *and* the pilot.
>
>
mail suit, not unlike the under armor of the middle ages. The metal then
acts as a conductor of any induced currents, keeping them away from any
path thru the body of the worker. They reach out with a long metal rod
to touch the wire as the chopper brings them close to equalize the charges.
hal...@aol.com
cables attached to a tree pole pruner, jumping out the meter attaching
directly to the copper uninsulated service line......
he had a tree shaded area to work..
Eric
>
> Very carefully. Yea, I have done it, (with the electric company's
> blessing) . I don't suggest anyone who has to ask how consider doing it
> as missing one step could be your last one.
>
bullshit! total bullshit
Eric
dpb
Mike Plate wrote:
> Over the past year all the homes in my town (Central Mass.) have been
> for metering service but for regulating so if there were some problem
> it would be identified. I am not sure what the "problems" could be
> (tapping service) or how it would phone home with an issue, just send a
> signal over the line?
Certainly tampering is one form of "problem" new digital meters are
designed to detect. Almost any service issue can be detected, the
level in your case would be, it would all depend on the level of
sophistication of the particular meter design/manufacturer they went
to. Unbalanced legs, low voltage, off-frequency, many neutral or
ground problems all can be detected. Most of these use a wireless
network or proprietary transmission protocol connection and either they
use a mobile receiver and drive around to various locations to collect
data from an area or have collection "stations" that then forward the
data back to central office.
Steve Kraus
No interruption in service either. I was told this by the power company
guy who was swapping out meters under load.
Tom The Great
Taking notes?
:p
z
In my stupid youth I used to occasionally work on my apartment wiring
hot, when I lived in places where I didn't have access to the
breaker/fuse box. You just have to be damn meticulous and careful. I
guess i got the idea from wayback, when i used to work on vacuum tube
equipment where diagnosis often required careful poking with meter
probes while the thing was on. Compared to the inside of a tube
electronics chassis, 110 volt house wiring is pretty easy and safe. Oh
yeah, it's advised to always keep your left hand in your pocket to
eliminate any current path across the heart, should things go sour.
z
Mike Plate wrote:
> Over the past year all the homes in my town (Central Mass.) have been
> converted over to digital meters with some type of Tough
> plexiglass/plastic cover. I haven't seen a meter reader since. Also
> the literature I saw on the new meters stated that they were not only
> for metering service but for regulating so if there were some problem
> it would be identified. I am not sure what the "problems" could be
> (tapping service) or how it would phone home with an issue, just send a
> signal over the line?
Same here, but last week I got a notice from the power company saying
despite the remote reading setup, it was still time for routine
replacement of the meter and would i please make an appointment?
z
> countries where meter fraud is a well established custom. I have seen
> a number of tricks.
> The best one I saw was a guy who put a "T" fitting in the service mast
> where it penetrated the roof to the soffit on a service upgrade so he
> could loop the service conductors into the attic where they were
> tapped. The cops found it when they busted the grow house
The guys who really worry me are the ones who bypass the gas meter with
garden hose, etc. Every once a while the paper runs a story on one who
blows his building up.
Mark Lloyd
They replaced my electric meter this spring, at about 10AM (while I
was reading newsgroups) with NO notice. If I hadn't gone outside to
look, it would have been like any other power failure.
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
sosessyithurts
Al Moran wrote:
> Recently read a story in the local news about someone using rented
> house to grow pot. In the story they said that the electric meters
> were bypassed. How is a meter bypassed without killing yourself?
That's down right shocking
z
Al Moran wrote:
> Recently read a story in the local news about someone using rented
> house to grow pot. In the story they said that the electric meters
> were bypassed. How is a meter bypassed without killing yourself?
After they smoked some, it seemed like an obvious idea.
MLR
"James "Cubby" Culbertson" <Nos...@null.invalid> wrote in message
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Those guys make "Chump Change"
PaPaPeng
<pipe...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Indoor pot farmers are often busted either by the electric usage pattern or
>by causing fires while ignoring electrical code. Narcing neighbors too.
>
These gro-ops are a landlord's nighmare. Growing pot requires a lot
of water that the plants then transpire. That results in high
humidity and condensation on the walls, etc. There will be structural
damage to the house, especially in houses that are built in localities
with a long winter. Furthermore the chemicals used in the gro-op and
along with the drug by-products will contaminate the house. A police
bust will have it condemned as unfit for human habitation. That house
will be a total loss and insurance won't pay for that.
Nick Hull
"z" <gzuc...@snail-mail.net> wrote:
During Prohibition one trick was to put a straw in the meter to stop the
turning. Absolute requirement; have soneone ALWAYS availiable to remove
the straw before a meter reader gets there!
--
Free men own guns - /CapitolHill/5357/
John doooh
>
> Very carefully. Yea, I have done it, (with the electric company's
> blessing) . I don't suggest anyone who has to ask how consider doing it
as
> missing one step could be your last one.
120/240... Just don't ground when installing jumper...or between phases.
--
gangerelectricm8
not reeal m88'tz
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Femi
This is such bullshit. I have been a part of 6 grow houses, nit one damaged
the house in those ways. In the grow operation, if you know what you're doing
you keep the temperature and the humidity in an acceptable range, and that
range does not damaged houses is the same range that humans live in. Humidity
between 45 + 55% and temperature between 72 and 84 degrees Fahrenheit. That
does not damage a house. You are so full of shit.
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daddypup...@gmail.com
A K
> Recently read a story in the local news about someone using rented
> house to grow pot. In the story they said that the electric meters
> were bypassed. How is a meter bypassed without killing yourself?
The Eighth Commandment is recorded in Exodus 20:15: “You shall not steal.” The Bible describes many forms of stealing we must avoid.
trader_4
yourself. The hard part is making it so it's not visible, not detected
and not getting caught.
Erik Jon
Wow this is the either official propaganda or you're retarded.