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Install tube in tubeless wheelbarrow tire?

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Puddin' Man

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Apr 30, 2010, 6:04:41 PM4/30/10
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The Chengshin 8" tubeless tire on my 20+-yr-old wheelbarrow hasn't reliably
held air in a long, long time.

They got a 8" inner tube with "Slime" at Homey-Flogging-Depot. Is it a good
bet to install in the Chengshin tubeless tire?

Thx,
P

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Joe

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Apr 30, 2010, 6:20:59 PM4/30/10
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On Apr 30, 5:04 pm, Puddin' Man <puddingDOT...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Chengshin 8" tubeless tire on my 20+-yr-old wheelbarrow hasn't reliably
> held air in a long, long time.
>
> They got a 8" inner tube with "Slime" at Homey-Flogging-Depot. Is it a good
> bet to install in the Chengshin tubeless tire?

The odds on anyone (including me) ever having tried such a fix is
totally remote. Best advice is that it is your money, go ahead and do
it. From a more sensible standpoint, it is less struggle to simply get
a new wheel/tire assembly from your nearest Farm Store and swap it
out. Then you're good for another 20 years.

Joe

Dave

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Apr 30, 2010, 6:34:45 PM4/30/10
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You can just buy slime for low speed tires and pour it in the tubeless
tire. I have a lawnmower with cracked tires. I put slime in a few
years ago. Slime occasionally oozes out of the cracks but it has held
air for three years now.

Oren

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Apr 30, 2010, 6:37:07 PM4/30/10
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:04:41 -0500, Puddin' Man
<puddin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>The Chengshin 8" tubeless tire on my 20+-yr-old wheelbarrow hasn't reliably
>held air in a long, long time.

Get yourself a flat free tire.

pic:

http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/189356_lg.jpg

"Contractor-grade solid microcellular polyurethane tire performs like
an air tire, yet never goes flat! Lightweight and durable. Mounted on
a heavy-duty steel rim with ball bearings and grease fitting."

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200323169_200323169

Tony

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Apr 30, 2010, 6:38:57 PM4/30/10
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I've had problems with lots of new ones in less than one year.
I replaced the tires on my "lawn cart on steroids" and my wheel barrow
with highway use trailer tires from wal mart. I think they are about
$10 - $15, about twice what the original ones cost. No inner tubes and
I haven't had a flat tire in years. I suppose the solid no flat ones
they have now would have worked also.

DerbyDad03

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Apr 30, 2010, 7:03:47 PM4/30/10
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re: "The odds on anyone (including me) ever having tried such a fix is
totally remote."

I didn't use tubes with Slime, but for about $15 each I had tubes put
in the rear tubeless tires on a riding mower and they outlasted the
mower itself. In fact, my son took the tires off of the dead mower and
put them on the HF cart that he bought to tow behind his new rider.

It took a little work to enlarge the wheel wells, but it look much
cooler with big knobby tires!

Colbyt

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Apr 30, 2010, 7:40:53 PM4/30/10
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"Puddin' Man" <puddin...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> The Chengshin 8" tubeless tire on my 20+-yr-old wheelbarrow hasn't
> reliably
> held air in a long, long time.
>
> They got a 8" inner tube with "Slime" at Homey-Flogging-Depot. Is it a
> good
> bet to install in the Chengshin tubeless tire?
>

I don't know about that one. Mine never held air. True happiness came when I
went to a local tire dealer and paid $10 to have the proper tube mounted in
mine. Frankly I don't recall the last time I added air and that tube was 4
years ago.

This year I got pissed and took the 2 front tires from my riding mower to
the same place. Twelve bucks later I no longer need to add air every time I
mow.

Happiness can cost so little sometimes.

Colbyt


aemeijers

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Apr 30, 2010, 7:46:16 PM4/30/10
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Any tire store that has 'industrial tires' in their yellow pages ad, can
fix you right up. I had the 6"? tires on my hand truck tubed about 10
years ago, when the Bulgarian? tires stopped holding air. It was worth
the twenty bucks just to watch the 250-lb tire monkey break those tiny
tires down.

But on a wheel barrow- I'd carry the old tire and rim into Harbor
Freight, Tractor Supply, or whatever is convenient, and see if their
'universal' Chinese replacement wheel looks about right. Life is too
damn short to get bloody knuckles on some projects. Getting the tire off
that rim on your own, is likely to fall in that category. Or maybe just
drop a can of fix-a-flat into it, while the barrow is upside down, and
pay the nearest kid to stand there and spin it for 20 minutes.

--
aem sends...

DerbyDad03

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Apr 30, 2010, 7:58:39 PM4/30/10
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HeyBub

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Apr 30, 2010, 8:30:55 PM4/30/10
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Puddin' Man wrote:
> The Chengshin 8" tubeless tire on my 20+-yr-old wheelbarrow hasn't
> reliably held air in a long, long time.
>
> They got a 8" inner tube with "Slime" at Homey-Flogging-Depot. Is it
> a good bet to install in the Chengshin tubeless tire?
>

Sure. I put a $2.50 tube from HF in a tubeless wheelbarrow tire. Works
swell.

And even if it DOES lose air, it's far easier to reinflate it than trying to
do so on a tubeless tire that's separated from the rim.


Cliff Hartle

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Apr 30, 2010, 9:42:36 PM4/30/10
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Did the same for my dolly tires. They work great now.


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Bob F

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May 1, 2010, 11:14:58 AM5/1/10
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Considering that the tread is pretty much useless on a trailer, it will
certainly be harder on the lawn.


Tony

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May 1, 2010, 11:24:03 AM5/1/10
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I'd be doing the same if I hadn't had so much bad luck with the
originals and the cheap replacements. The tires come off and go back on
the rims pretty easy, it's like a 5 minute job to change the tire on the
rim. Plus the first two I got were for the lawn cart which is a hybrid
store bought/home made. I gave the originals hell, they weren't made to
carry the weight I put in the cart.

Tony

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May 1, 2010, 11:38:17 AM5/1/10
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Jim Elbrecht wrote:
> I've got one [not that one in particular- I bought a wheelbarrow with
> one already on it] on one wheelbarrow. It doesn't ever go flat. . .
> but it doesn't get hard either! If I fill the barrow with wet clay
> it is way to soft to push on anything but pavement.

Well I'm glad I didn't have the option to choose them. My highway
trailer tires roll very easy, even when overloaded.

This is what I put on my lawn cart and wheelbarrow. I leave them at
about 50lbs pressure. They roll nice & easy.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200330364_200330364

Harry K

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May 1, 2010, 12:12:34 PM5/1/10
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Same here. Over the years I have had new tires on several different
pieces of equipment from mowers to carts that wouldn't hold air. One
flat I pump up, two flats go to my tire shop for tubes which, so far,
has been a permanent fix. I have had tubes put in tires down to 8" in
size (syckle bar mower).

Harry K

Jay Hanig

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May 1, 2010, 12:22:29 PM5/1/10
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On 4/30/2010 8:30 PM, HeyBub wrote:

> And even if it DOES lose air, it's far easier to reinflate it than trying to
> do so on a tubeless tire that's separated from the rim.

The way to deal with that is to take a racheting strap like you'd use to
tie down an appliance onto a trailer and encircle the center of the
offending tire with it. As you tighten it down in the center, the
sidewalls will jam up against the rims nice and tight, allowing you to
easily get a seal. Once it atarts taking air, release the strap and
fill it the rest of the way. Be careful not to overfill the tire.

I've used this technique twice this year: once on a John Deere lawn
tractor and once on a wheelbarrow. Worked perfectly both times.


Jay

Puddin' Man

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May 1, 2010, 4:19:25 PM5/1/10
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:30:55 -0500, "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>Sure. I put a $2.50 tube from HF in a tubeless wheelbarrow tire. Works
>swell.

I see only 10" tube on HF web site.

HeyBub

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May 1, 2010, 4:48:25 PM5/1/10
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Jay Hanig wrote:
> On 4/30/2010 8:30 PM, HeyBub wrote:
>
>> And even if it DOES lose air, it's far easier to reinflate it than
>> trying to do so on a tubeless tire that's separated from the rim.
>
>
>
> The way to deal with that is to take a racheting strap like you'd use
> to tie down an appliance onto a trailer and encircle the center of the
> offending tire with it. As you tighten it down in the center, the
> sidewalls will jam up against the rims nice and tight, allowing you to
> easily get a seal. Once it atarts taking air, release the strap and
> fill it the rest of the way. Be careful not to overfill the tire.
>

Right. I keep several racheting straps of differing sizes for just such
contingencies. They're stored in my truck right next to the panty tongs.

Regrettably, the last time I needed a racheting strap, the truck was in the
shop.

I used my belt.

Fortunately, I was IN my truck when the most recent need for panty tongs
arose.


HeyBub

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May 2, 2010, 4:15:57 PM5/2/10
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Puddin' Man wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:30:55 -0500, "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sure. I put a $2.50 tube from HF in a tubeless wheelbarrow tire.
>> Works swell.
>
> I see only 10" tube on HF web site.
>

And?

Unless you're implying you don't think a 10" tube will work in an 8" tire.


Steve B

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May 3, 2010, 1:12:33 AM5/3/10
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"Puddin' Man" <puddin...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> The Chengshin 8" tubeless tire on my 20+-yr-old wheelbarrow hasn't
> reliably
> held air in a long, long time.
>
> They got a 8" inner tube with "Slime" at Homey-Flogging-Depot. Is it a
> good
> bet to install in the Chengshin tubeless tire?
>
> Thx,
> P

Yes. Solid rubber tires are also good, but they are very bumpy. I've never
had a tubeless wheelbarrow tire that would hold air.

Steve

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DerbyDad03

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May 3, 2010, 11:50:14 AM5/3/10
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> >http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid...
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> > With these...
>
> >http://www.palmettospecialtytire.com/servlet/the-115/13-x-5.00-dsh-6-...

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> Considering that the tread is pretty much useless on a trailer, it will
> certainly be harder on the lawn.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

The use of the cart was to transport his shovels, rakes and walk-
behind mower around the neighborhood when he was doing lawns as a
teenager.

It was more of a father-son project than the need for big tires on a
cart. (BTW...the tires I pictured are a bit more aggressive than the
ones we actually used. I couldn't find a picture of the exact ones.)

We also made a side-mounted rack with PVC tubes to hold his long
handled tools upright like they do on "real' landscaping trailers.

He's now off living on his on, fixing his own cars and other
equipment.

I consider him one of my most successful projects. :-)


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