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Terry Coombs
Sep 16, 2014, 10:56:09 PM9/16/14
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I managed to fry one of the batteries to my DeWalt 18v drill , and I'm a
bit confused ... My batteries are model DC9098 . I find all kinds of
replacement batteries , and one of the most common is a DW , not a DC 9098 .
I see a difference in the A/Hour ratings , and wonder if this is the
difference in the letter designation . I'd match the battery to the model of
the drill , but the tag with the number is damaged . I've been a fan of the
Dewalt drills for over 20 years , and until now the only battery failures
I've seen were due to not completely draining them to dead before charging .
I had a 12v battery last over 6 years ... but this 18v unit died the other
day while I was using my drill to mix mortar for the stone work behind my WB
stove ... got hot , then nothing and now it won't charge . And I gotta have
a 2nd battery , one to use while the other charges .
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Bob F
Sep 17, 2014, 1:55:49 AM9/17/14
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Terry Coombs wrote:
> I managed to fry one of the batteries to my DeWalt 18v drill , and
> I'm a bit confused ... My batteries are model DC9098 . I find all
> kinds of replacement batteries , and one of the most common is a DW ,
> not a DC 9098 . I see a difference in the A/Hour ratings , and wonder
> if this is the difference in the letter designation . I'd match the
> battery to the model of the drill , but the tag with the number is
> damaged . I've been a fan of the Dewalt drills for over 20 years ,
> and until now the only battery failures I've seen were due to not
> completely draining them to dead before charging .
Running batteries to "dead" is the worst thing you can do to them.
> I managed to fry one of the batteries to my DeWalt 18v drill , and
> I'm a bit confused ... My batteries are model DC9098 . I find all
> kinds of replacement batteries , and one of the most common is a DW ,
> not a DC 9098 . I see a difference in the A/Hour ratings , and wonder
> if this is the difference in the letter designation . I'd match the
> battery to the model of the drill , but the tag with the number is
> damaged . I've been a fan of the Dewalt drills for over 20 years ,
> and until now the only battery failures I've seen were due to not
> completely draining them to dead before charging .
Terry Coombs
Sep 17, 2014, 8:42:41 AM9/17/14
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discharge them fully before charging . I and a coworker both got identical
new drills at the same time . He would slap a fresh battery in as soon as
his slowed a little , I'd run mine all the way down . My batteries lasted an
average of 4+ years , his were being replaced on average in less than a year
.
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Mike
Sep 17, 2014, 9:36:59 AM9/17/14
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packs that are nearly 12 years old and work fine. If you take them down
much below 1.1V/cell you are not doing them any favors. Your drill may
refuse to run before you get there. Thus your good fortune so far.
Bob F
Sep 17, 2014, 12:26:48 PM9/17/14
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and quickly die. You should only run the battery down as far as you can without
risk of reverse charging a cell.
Fred McKenzie
Sep 17, 2014, 12:28:08 PM9/17/14
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In article <WkfSv.276092$oh4.1...@fx11.iad>,
The problem with "all the way down", is that after a cell gets to zero
volts, continued current flow will reverse charge it. Your 4+ years
batteries probably had well matched cells that all discharged at the
same rate.
When I have trouble with my 18V batteries, I take them to "Batteries
Plus". They refill them with the higher A/Hour cells. The refills are
less expensive than DeWalt, and seem to last longer.
Fred
volts, continued current flow will reverse charge it. Your 4+ years
batteries probably had well matched cells that all discharged at the
same rate.
When I have trouble with my 18V batteries, I take them to "Batteries
Plus". They refill them with the higher A/Hour cells. The refills are
less expensive than DeWalt, and seem to last longer.
Fred
Bob F
Sep 17, 2014, 12:32:01 PM9/17/14
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Ralph Mowery
Sep 17, 2014, 12:42:41 PM9/17/14
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"Fred McKenzie" <fm...@aol.com> wrote in message news:fmmck-> When I have
trouble with my 18V batteries, I take them to "Batteries
> Plus". They refill them with the higher A/Hour cells. The refills are
> less expensive than DeWalt, and seem to last longer.
>
Don't know about the refiles, but it seems that youcan get a new drill,
> Plus". They refill them with the higher A/Hour cells. The refills are
> less expensive than DeWalt, and seem to last longer.
>
charger and 2 batteries for the same price or less than 2 batteries.
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Terry Coombs
Sep 17, 2014, 2:11:02 PM9/17/14
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Ralph Mowery wrote:
> "Fred McKenzie" <fm...@aol.com> wrote in message news:fmmck-> When I
> have trouble with my 18V batteries, I take them to "Batteries
>> Plus". They refill them with the higher A/Hour cells. The refills
>> are less expensive than DeWalt, and seem to last longer.
>>
>
> Don't know about the refiles, but it seems that youcan get a new
> drill, charger and 2 batteries for the same price or less than 2
> batteries.
>
>
Yup , and I'm considering buyiong another one just like this one for that
> "Fred McKenzie" <fm...@aol.com> wrote in message news:fmmck-> When I
> have trouble with my 18V batteries, I take them to "Batteries
>> Plus". They refill them with the higher A/Hour cells. The refills
>> are less expensive than DeWalt, and seem to last longer.
>>
>
> Don't know about the refiles, but it seems that youcan get a new
> drill, charger and 2 batteries for the same price or less than 2
> batteries.
>
>
very reason .
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BenDarrenBach
Sep 17, 2014, 3:37:29 PM9/17/14
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On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:11:02 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
> > Don't know about the refiles, but it seems that youcan get a new
>
> > drill, charger and 2 batteries for the same price or less than 2
>
> > batteries.
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
> Yup , and I'm considering buyiong another one just like this one for that
>
> very reason .
>
> --
>
> Snag
They will be made in China though...maybe some in Japan left (Makita, Panasonic).
> > Don't know about the refiles, but it seems that youcan get a new
>
> > drill, charger and 2 batteries for the same price or less than 2
>
> > batteries.
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
> Yup , and I'm considering buyiong another one just like this one for that
>
> very reason .
>
> --
>
> Snag
Oren
Sep 17, 2014, 3:39:08 PM9/17/14
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:11:02 -0500, "Terry Coombs" <snag...@msn.com>
wrote:
I have some 10 year old cordless Bosch tools ( a 5-piece set ). I
have corded tools to mix paint, mortar, etc. Usually heavy demands.
I bought the Rockwell 3Rill for small jobs ($99.99 for three equal
payments) around the house - not the complete kit as I have tons of
bits, drivers, etc. They fit the chuck.
It would cost me ~$160 to rebuild the Bosch (3) batteries. It was
simple common sense to buy the Rockwell 12.V. For me.
- High torque impact driver, dual-speed VSR drill & screwdriver
- Works in tight spaces & awkward angles where others can't
- Screwdriver-mode features 22 clutch settings
- Utilizes quick-change and traditional bits
- Includes (2) 12V LithiumTech batteries for lasting performance
And impact mode.
Batteries are free for the life of the tool. Buy online get an extra
year warranty for the tool.
<https://www.rockwelltools.com/en-US/12v_lithium_3rill.aspx>
The set is temporally sold out :-\
wrote:
have corded tools to mix paint, mortar, etc. Usually heavy demands.
I bought the Rockwell 3Rill for small jobs ($99.99 for three equal
payments) around the house - not the complete kit as I have tons of
bits, drivers, etc. They fit the chuck.
It would cost me ~$160 to rebuild the Bosch (3) batteries. It was
simple common sense to buy the Rockwell 12.V. For me.
- High torque impact driver, dual-speed VSR drill & screwdriver
- Works in tight spaces & awkward angles where others can't
- Screwdriver-mode features 22 clutch settings
- Utilizes quick-change and traditional bits
- Includes (2) 12V LithiumTech batteries for lasting performance
And impact mode.
Batteries are free for the life of the tool. Buy online get an extra
year warranty for the tool.
<https://www.rockwelltools.com/en-US/12v_lithium_3rill.aspx>
The set is temporally sold out :-\
Ralph Mowery
Sep 17, 2014, 4:49:36 PM9/17/14
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"Oren" <Or...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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>>
> Batteries are free for the life of the tool. Buy online get an extra
> year warranty for the tool.
>
> <https://www.rockwelltools.com/en-US/12v_lithium_3rill.aspx>
>
> The set is temporally sold out :-\
If I needed a cordless now, I would look in to that just because of the free
> Batteries are free for the life of the tool. Buy online get an extra
> year warranty for the tool.
>
> <https://www.rockwelltools.com/en-US/12v_lithium_3rill.aspx>
>
> The set is temporally sold out :-\
batteries for life. I have an 18 volt Dewalt and the batteries seem to be
in good shape. I don't use it very often,so they may go bad because they
are not used much. I do charge them a couple of times a year.
Stormin Mormon
Sep 17, 2014, 5:41:52 PM9/17/14
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On 9/17/2014 12:28 PM, Fred McKenzie wrote:
>
> When I have trouble with my 18V batteries, I take them to "Batteries
> Plus". They refill them with the higher A/Hour cells. The refills are
> less expensive than DeWalt, and seem to last longer.
>
> Fred
>
How do the prices compare to www.primecell.com ??
>
> When I have trouble with my 18V batteries, I take them to "Batteries
> Plus". They refill them with the higher A/Hour cells. The refills are
> less expensive than DeWalt, and seem to last longer.
>
> Fred
>
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Art Todesco
Sep 18, 2014, 9:29:36 AM9/18/14
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get the smaller batteries. That's ok for me because they are certainly
lighter in weight. With the way I use them, I've not noticed a problem.
And the big plus for me is that I think my old charger was over
charging (in a trickle mode after the light goes out) because the
battery always remained warm while on the charger. The new charger with
the drill kit, doesn't do that.
BenDarrenBach
Sep 18, 2014, 9:41:35 AM9/18/14
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On Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:29:36 AM UTC-5, Art Todesco wrote:
However, you
>
> get the smaller batteries. That's ok for me because they are certainly
>
> lighter in weight. With the way I use them, I've not noticed a problem.
>
Lithium batteries are smaller/lighten, charge more efficiently...last at least at long. Possibly what you have?
However, you
>
> get the smaller batteries. That's ok for me because they are certainly
>
> lighter in weight. With the way I use them, I've not noticed a problem.
>
Art Todesco
Sep 19, 2014, 9:25:34 AM9/19/14
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less capacity, lighter in weight and slightly smaller in size. I wish
they did have a LIon replacement for the 18 volt DeWalt batteries. It
might be nice.
mrob...@att.net
Sep 20, 2014, 1:12:51 AM9/20/14
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Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com> wrote:
> I managed to fry one of the batteries to my DeWalt 18v drill, and I'm
> a bit confused... My batteries are model DC9098. I find all kinds of
> replacement batteries, and one of the most common is a DW , not a
> DC 9098.
http://servicenet.dewalt.com/Products/Detail?productNumber=DC9098
says you have an 18 V, 1.2 amp-hour NiCd battery. That site doesn't
know about the DW9098 model/part number. I suspect the "DW" is an
aftermarket designation for De Walt.
> I see a difference in the A/Hour ratings, and wonder if this is the
of amp-hour ratings. The aftermarket people are probably advertising
the higher-rated cells. Some of them are probably even *installing*
the higher-rated cells. If you're really lucky, they had a good set of
orphans working the line at People's Shining Battery Factory #39 that
day, and you will actually get the stated rating.
> I'd match the battery to the model of the drill , but the tag with the
> number is damaged.
If you go here
http://servicenet.dewalt.com/Products/Detail?productNumber=DC9098
and click on the "Part # N143312" link, you get
http://servicenet.dewalt.com/Parts/Detail/311758
, which says that this battery is used on the "DC970K-2 Type 1 18V
Drill", "DCK235C 18V Drill/Imp Combo", and "DW959K-2 Type 2 18 V
Drill/Driver", if that helps any.
I bought the $100 DeWalt drill-driver kit, and a spare 12 V NiCd for it,
at Home Depot in 2007. By 2012 both batteries were pretty tired, but I
could still get some work done by juggling them on the charger; by 2013
the batteries were pretty much gone. In mid-2013 I got both of them
rebuilt with new NiCd cells at Batteries Plus for about $35 each, out
the door. I figure 5 to 6 years of use for $35 is not a bad deal.
Also, they at least say they recycle the old cells in some acceptable
manner.
It might be worth calling your local Batteries Plus, if you have one,
to ask. I had to drop mine off and come back a few days later. I've
been using them since then and they work fine.
Standard disclaimers apply: I don't get money or other consideration
from any companies mentioned.
Matt Roberds
> I managed to fry one of the batteries to my DeWalt 18v drill, and I'm
> a bit confused... My batteries are model DC9098. I find all kinds of
> replacement batteries, and one of the most common is a DW , not a
> DC 9098.
http://servicenet.dewalt.com/Products/Detail?productNumber=DC9098
says you have an 18 V, 1.2 amp-hour NiCd battery. That site doesn't
know about the DW9098 model/part number. I suspect the "DW" is an
aftermarket designation for De Walt.
> I see a difference in the A/Hour ratings, and wonder if this is the
> difference in the letter designation.
For a given cell size, you usually have a choice of at least a couple
of amp-hour ratings. The aftermarket people are probably advertising
the higher-rated cells. Some of them are probably even *installing*
the higher-rated cells. If you're really lucky, they had a good set of
orphans working the line at People's Shining Battery Factory #39 that
day, and you will actually get the stated rating.
> I'd match the battery to the model of the drill , but the tag with the
> number is damaged.
http://servicenet.dewalt.com/Products/Detail?productNumber=DC9098
and click on the "Part # N143312" link, you get
http://servicenet.dewalt.com/Parts/Detail/311758
, which says that this battery is used on the "DC970K-2 Type 1 18V
Drill", "DCK235C 18V Drill/Imp Combo", and "DW959K-2 Type 2 18 V
Drill/Driver", if that helps any.
I bought the $100 DeWalt drill-driver kit, and a spare 12 V NiCd for it,
at Home Depot in 2007. By 2012 both batteries were pretty tired, but I
could still get some work done by juggling them on the charger; by 2013
the batteries were pretty much gone. In mid-2013 I got both of them
rebuilt with new NiCd cells at Batteries Plus for about $35 each, out
the door. I figure 5 to 6 years of use for $35 is not a bad deal.
Also, they at least say they recycle the old cells in some acceptable
manner.
It might be worth calling your local Batteries Plus, if you have one,
to ask. I had to drop mine off and come back a few days later. I've
been using them since then and they work fine.
Standard disclaimers apply: I don't get money or other consideration
from any companies mentioned.
Matt Roberds
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My battery dewalt charger was fried with battery on it, does that mean battery is fried
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Rod Speed
Feb 6, 2021, 6:54:54 PM2/6/21
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RayRay <cff79d4875bbc394...@example.com> wrote
> My battery dewalt charger was fried with
> battery on it, does that mean battery is fried
Normally not.
> My battery dewalt charger was fried with
> battery on it, does that mean battery is fried
mike
Feb 6, 2021, 8:29:19 PM2/6/21
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On 07-02-2021 05:24 Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> My battery dewalt charger was fried with
>> battery on it, does that mean battery is fried
>
> Normally not.
My Dewalt drill smells like ozone & sparks a lot.
>> My battery dewalt charger was fried with
>> battery on it, does that mean battery is fried
>
> Normally not.
But it still works.
Why does it smell like ozone?
Rod Speed
Feb 6, 2021, 8:43:31 PM2/6/21
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That's what produces the sparks.
micky
Feb 6, 2021, 10:11:01 PM2/6/21
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 7 Feb 2021 06:59:12 +0530, mike
Because it's sparking a lot.
Just like my Lionel train.
Just like my Lionel train.
gfre...@aol.com
Feb 7, 2021, 12:04:36 AM2/7/21
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On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 06:59:12 +0530, mike <th...@address.is.invalid>
wrote:
wrote:
Bob F
Feb 7, 2021, 12:23:39 AM2/7/21
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noisy sparking, smelling with no power to "like new". The brushes looked
worn, so it may not last. But I went for 10 sets of brushes for $12,
rather than the official ones for $20 for a set, so I can replace them
again.
micky
Feb 7, 2021, 12:54:50 AM2/7/21
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In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 6 Feb 2021 21:23:39 -0800, Bob F
FWIW, the top motor on previous car, or the one before that, probably
that one, the '95 Lebaron, got so bad the top would not go up most times
unless I opened the trunk and whacked the motor with a heavy wrench.
Then I had to whack it 3, 4, 10 times and then it didn't work at all.
I'd been looking for brushes and at the hardware store he had an
assortment. My size was maybe $4 a pair and I took the motor out and
apart, and then I saw that, though the brushes were the same size, the
braided connector on what I'd bought was much thinner. The motor used a
lot of current. I didn't want to do without the convertible top until
I could mail order better brushes. I thought about stretching the
springs but I don't think that would work well,, so I balled up tin foil
and put the brushes in their slots on top of one foil ball for each, on
top of the spring. It was fine for another two years until the car
failed for other reasons.
that one, the '95 Lebaron, got so bad the top would not go up most times
unless I opened the trunk and whacked the motor with a heavy wrench.
Then I had to whack it 3, 4, 10 times and then it didn't work at all.
I'd been looking for brushes and at the hardware store he had an
assortment. My size was maybe $4 a pair and I took the motor out and
apart, and then I saw that, though the brushes were the same size, the
braided connector on what I'd bought was much thinner. The motor used a
lot of current. I didn't want to do without the convertible top until
I could mail order better brushes. I thought about stretching the
springs but I don't think that would work well,, so I balled up tin foil
and put the brushes in their slots on top of one foil ball for each, on
top of the spring. It was fine for another two years until the car
failed for other reasons.
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bruce bowser
Feb 8, 2021, 5:25:48 AM2/8/21
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Clare Snyder
Feb 8, 2021, 11:15:19 PM2/8/21
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withsimulators like flight sim or race simulators that give you the
"engineer experience"
micky
Feb 9, 2021, 4:48:02 AM2/9/21
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In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 08 Feb 2021 23:15:13 -0500, Clare Snyder
years. (Someone at a hamfest gave me extra track only 15 years ago!)
>And if they are into trains it's virtual on the computer -
>withsimulators like flight sim or race simulators that give you the
>"engineer experience"
I should have sold it long ago when it would have brought money, but I
guess we were sort of saving it for my nephew.
<cl...@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>On Mon, 8 Feb 2021 02:25:44 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
><bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 10:11:01 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
>>> In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 7 Feb 2021 06:59:12 +0530, mike
>>> <th...@address.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On 07-02-2021 05:24 Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>> My battery dewalt charger was fried with
>>> >>> battery on it, does that mean battery is fried
>>> >>
>>> >> Normally not.
>>> >
>>> >My Dewalt drill smells like ozone & sparks a lot.
>>> >But it still works.
>>> >
>>> >Why does it smell like ozone?
>>> Because it's sparking a lot.
>>>
>>> Just like my Lionel train.
>>
>>Trains are still in style? I thought that now, these kids play with radio controlled drones with laser beams, etc..
Well, it's still my train, even if I haven't played with it for 60
>On Mon, 8 Feb 2021 02:25:44 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
><bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 10:11:01 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
>>> In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 7 Feb 2021 06:59:12 +0530, mike
>>> <th...@address.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On 07-02-2021 05:24 Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>> My battery dewalt charger was fried with
>>> >>> battery on it, does that mean battery is fried
>>> >>
>>> >> Normally not.
>>> >
>>> >My Dewalt drill smells like ozone & sparks a lot.
>>> >But it still works.
>>> >
>>> >Why does it smell like ozone?
>>> Because it's sparking a lot.
>>>
>>> Just like my Lionel train.
>>
>>Trains are still in style? I thought that now, these kids play with radio controlled drones with laser beams, etc..
years. (Someone at a hamfest gave me extra track only 15 years ago!)
>And if they are into trains it's virtual on the computer -
>withsimulators like flight sim or race simulators that give you the
>"engineer experience"
guess we were sort of saving it for my nephew.
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