OT: New Vaccine!!!!

[T]

https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/payn_c19725220230327110038-800x0.jpg

[Su Nombre]

T wrote:
> https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/payn_c19725220230327110038-800x0.jpg
>

+1

[Frank]

Far to late to cure those we know infected here.

[Ed Pawlowski]

But most of you guys say vaccines kill people. Can't take the chance.

[trader_4]

The cultist like to claim that it's people like you and I that are the problem,
that we have some irrational hatred of Trump not grounded in anything factual.
Just look at his first campaign rally in Waco on Saturday. It started off with
a prison choir of Jan 6 convicts singing the Star Spangled Banner, while Trump's
voice recited the Pledge of Allegiance. Just when you thought this POS could
not possibly sink any lower, he does. What is sad is that so many watch that
kind of shit and say it's ok, that cheer him on, that still want him as president
again.

[Frank]

You may not like Trump the man but if you were a real conservative would
love Trump the program: lower taxes, less regulation, closed borders,
getting out of foreign wars etc.

[Ed Pawlowski]

OMG that is funny. What lower taxes? If I was very wealthy I may agree
but I did not get the breaks billionaires got. Perhaps you did. What
about the increase in national debt from his tax cuts? My kids will pay
that.

How did Trump's policies affect the economy?
Over his term, Trump reduced federal taxes and increased federal
spending, both of which significantly increased federal budget deficits
and the National Debt.

Can you breathe better now Frank?

What environmental regulations did Trump remove?
The Trump administration's major environmental deregulations
Clean Power Plan. ...
Mercury and Air Toxic Standards. ...
Waters of U.S. Rule. ...
Reversal of EPA's chlorpyrifos ban. ...
Methane emissions standards.

[T]

Uh Ed,

Not-a-real-vaccine vaccines that are not properly
tested and have a LONG track record of damage,
and now show four to five times the infection
rate and death rate of the not-a-real-vaccine
vaccinated and the not-a-real-vaccines that
are being criticized.

Please distinguish. Real vaccines have saved
countless lives.

How about you. You going to get the Trump
derangement vaccine?

-T

[Frank]

Not you. You are incorrigible. I was addressing the guy that cuts off
his nose to spite his face.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Yes, I'm consistent and work with facts. Many people can't handle it

[T]

Your "facts" are little more that propaganda narratives.
You swim in a sea of lies and deceit.

[Pepe Ron Cini]

https://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/lyme-vaccine-dogs/

[Oscar]

From Robert Malone's substack

https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9b957001-e8b0-4d68-9d5a-4955a11effcc_462x412.png

[T]

On 3/29/23 18:27, Oscar wrote:
> From Robert Malone's substack
>
> https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9b957001-e8b0-4d68-9d5a-4955a11effcc_462x412.png

1+


Gleichschaltung – the restructuring of German society
and government into streamlined, centralized hierarchies
of power, with the intention of gaining total control
and co-ordination of all aspects of society. For the
Nazis, Gleichschaltung meant absolute unequivocal conformity and
obedience. Such uniform programming of thought
was part propaganda induced, partly the result of the
Gestapo enforcement mechanism, and part social pressure
from every direction; it was of paramount importance
to act uniformly if one wanted to remain a member of
the Volksgenossen.

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <u022nq$dsib$1...@dont-email.me>, "frank "@frank.net says...

>
> You may not like Trump the man but if you were a real conservative would
> love Trump the program: lower taxes, less regulation, closed borders,
> getting out of foreign wars etc.
>
>

That is the way I am. I do not care at all for Trump the man. I would
be hard pressed to have any personal dealings with him.

However his plans for the US are a lot better than any of the last 4 or
5 presidents. I am not wealthy by a long shot, but made lots of money
percentage wise under him. Lost much more under Biden in less than a
year than in many years of the past.

There are some things that Trump did that I did not like, but as with
any president there are some things I have issues with. I agree with
maybe 75 % of what he did as president. I do not think I agree with
anything Biden has done so far.

I often think of any leader as the man that passes out $ 100 bills on
the street. Someone will complain the bills are old and wrinkled
instead of new.

[trader_4]

Trump's lower taxes mostly benefitted the rich and it greatly increased the
deficits. What is conservative about passing tax cuts that blow out the deficit
that gets passed on to future generations? Any dumb ass can pass a huge
tax cut with an economy that was already doing fine, juice it up more at the
expense of the future.

Closed borders, not really. Where is that wall he was going to build and that
Mexico was going to pay for? He did reduce it, but as I pointed out at the time,
he did it via his usual method, a big stinking shit show and all by exec order
which I told you would be just as easily reversed by the next president. Did
Trump even put forth a comprehensive immigration reform proposal? That's
what leaders do, they lead. Trump governed by division.

Getting out of foreign wars, then why are the Republicans running around
blaming Biden for leaving Afghanistan? You're right, Trump is the one that
surrendered to the Taliban in 2020. He was running for re-election and suddenly
figured out he wanted to be able to take credit for leaving. So he signed that
withdrawal agreement, one with no participation from the Afghan govt and
it called for the US to leave in a year. We will see what the long term consequences
of that move will be. Syria and Iraq, we still have troops there, last time I
checked.

And it's very much all about "the man". I wouldn't trust that POS to run my
family business. He's obviously a malignant narcissist, he displays mental
problems most of the time. We are very fortunate that his mental disorder
didn't result in some major catastrophe. And now he wants to come back
and do it again. It's incredible to me that I can cite something very specific,
like what he just did honoring the Jan 6 criminals as patriots and you turn
around and defend him. That kind of thing isn't just some minor character
flaw, it's beyond despicable. It's clear that it's not me that's deranged, it's
Trump and people like you that just keep egging him on. It's similar to how
Germany wound up with Hitler. Doesn't matter that the man is a raving lunatic,
obviously mentally ill, just look at all the good things he's done for Germany.

[trader_4]

Speaking of lies and deceit, isn't it time for your daily post about the stolen
election? Covid vaccine conspiracies? Vaccine nonsense?

[rbowman]

On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 21:24:45 -0700, T wrote:

> Such uniform programming of thought was part propaganda induced, partly
> the result of the Gestapo enforcement mechanism, and part social
> pressure from every direction; it was of paramount importance to act
> uniformly if one wanted to remain a member of the Volksgenossen.

So you prefer the current diversity in the US where there is no shared
culture or morality?

[trader_4]

This from the guy that believes the stolen election propaganda. That one,,
achieved by Trump, would have made Goebbels proud, he couldn't have
done any better.

[trader_4]

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 10:32:44 AM UTC-4, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> In article <u022nq$dsib$1...@dont-email.me>, "frank "@frank.net says...
> >
> > You may not like Trump the man but if you were a real conservative would
> > love Trump the program: lower taxes, less regulation, closed borders,
> > getting out of foreign wars etc.
> >
> >
> That is the way I am. I do not care at all for Trump the man. I would
> be hard pressed to have any personal dealings with him.
>
> However his plans for the US are a lot better than any of the last 4 or
> 5 presidents. I am not wealthy by a long shot, but made lots of money
> percentage wise under him.

And you have no problem that Trump's boost to an economy that was
already doing fine came via tax cuts that blew out the deficits? It's an
economic boost at the cost of borrowed trillions, an ever increasing sum
that puts our national security at risk. That's the price of boosting your
stock. Any dummy can do it.

Lost much more under Biden in less than a
> year than in many years of the past.

You think the fact that Covid arrived, shutting down much of the economy
had anything to do with that?

>
> There are some things that Trump did that I did not like, but as with
> any president there are some things I have issues with. I agree with
> maybe 75 % of what he did as president. I do not think I agree with
> anything Biden has done so far.
>
> I often think of any leader as the man that passes out $ 100 bills on
> the street. Someone will complain the bills are old and wrinkled
> instead of new.

Right, like Trump just has some very minor defects.

[Cindy Hamilton]

It's all about the money, isn't it? Are there no other factors that
matter to you?

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bob F]

Just another good GOPer.

[T]

I prefer we not try to recreate Nazi Germany
or the Soviet Union.

[Peeler]

On 30 Mar 2023 15:04:33 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> So you prefer the current diversity in the US where there is no shared
> culture or morality?

You don't, Trumptard? I'm not surprised!

--
Yet another thrilling account from the resident senile superhero's senile
life:
"I went to a Driveby Truckers concert at a local venue and they made me
leave my knife in the car. Never went back. Come to think of it the Truckers
had a Black Lives Matter banner. Never bought any of their music again
either."
MID: <k84ip9...@mid.individual.net>

[T]

Hi Ralph,

If you listen to the cut up and fabricated jobs for
American Pravda, Trump was a total bastard. When I
listened to him directly, I found no such evidence.
What the Left really disliked about him is that he
got back in their faces when they started with the
name calling and did not back away. Previous Republican
presidents got out the public check book and begged
to be liked. Trump also honestly about what he was
thinking rather than political speak which left your
head spinning.

The other thing about Trump was that he broke the RINO
bull s*** about it is better to have a "R" in front
of the name than a "D". RINOs are very little different
than democrats. Why vote for a fake democrat when you
can get a real one.

Things were much better off under Trump than the
current bunch pulling the strings on a clearly
non compose mentis old man who should be in a
rest home.

-T

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 3/29/2023 9:04 PM, T wrote:

>>
>> Yes, I'm consistent and work with facts.  Many people can't handle it
>>
>
> Your "facts" are little more that propaganda narratives.
> You swim in a sea of lies and deceit.

OMG, you say that and tout the wonders of Trump and MAGA. Thanks for
the laugh of the day.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Absolutely, I agree with you. Some politicians are drying to do exactly
that. like DeSantis and his free speech restrictions. He believes in
free speech as long as he agrees with you.

[T]

Knee jerking after reading my stuff again?

[T]

Liar

[Ed Pawlowski]

DeSantis got screwed by Disney. I've been laughing about the failure of
his vengeance. Disney is smarter than the Florida governor.

That is what happens when you want to be a dictator. HAHAHAHAHA

[trader_4]

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 1:38:00 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 3/30/23 07:32, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> > In article <u022nq$dsib$1...@dont-email.me>, "frank "@frank.net says...
> >>
> >> You may not like Trump the man but if you were a real conservative would
> >> love Trump the program: lower taxes, less regulation, closed borders,
> >> getting out of foreign wars etc.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > That is the way I am. I do not care at all for Trump the man. I would
> > be hard pressed to have any personal dealings with him.
> >
> > However his plans for the US are a lot better than any of the last 4 or
> > 5 presidents. I am not wealthy by a long shot, but made lots of money
> > percentage wise under him. Lost much more under Biden in less than a
> > year than in many years of the past.
> >
> > There are some things that Trump did that I did not like, but as with
> > any president there are some things I have issues with. I agree with
> > maybe 75 % of what he did as president. I do not think I agree with
> > anything Biden has done so far.
> >
> > I often think of any leader as the man that passes out $ 100 bills on
> > the street. Someone will complain the bills are old and wrinkled
> > instead of new.
> Hi Ralph,
>
> If you listen to the cut up and fabricated jobs for
> American Pravda, Trump was a total bastard. When I
> listened to him directly, I found no such evidence.

No surprise there, you even believe the stolen election lie, despite
that having been shot down in over 60 court cases, including many
with Republican judges, even ones appointed by Trump. We present
you with irrefutable proof of what Trump actually said or did and you
ignore it. Like when he went back and forth with the media in the lobby
of Trump Tower about what had happened days before in Charlottesville,
the death of the young woman at the hands of a crazed white supremacist
and then he said "there were very fine people on both sides". One side
was white supremacists, KKK, David Duke, neo-Nazis. What very fine
people would ever march at a rally that was organized by and attended
by those scum? Would you?

> What the Left really disliked about him is that he
> got back in their faces when they started with the
> name calling and did not back away. Previous Republican
> presidents got out the public check book and begged
> to be liked.

Trump was a prolific spender, the deficits greatly increased.
That previous Republican presidents dealt with their opposition
by throwing money at them is just more BS.

Trump also honestly about what he was
> thinking rather than political speak which left your
> head spinning.

The sad thing is that what's mostly in his mind is Trump, Trump, Trump
and the rest that is in there is not good.

>
> The other thing about Trump was that he broke the RINO
> bull s*** about it is better to have a "R" in front
> of the name than a "D". RINOs are very little different
> than democrats. Why vote for a fake democrat when you
> can get a real one.

Keep going. I warned you about Trump. Since Trump the Republicans
have lost the WH, the House and Senate. They claimed a huge red wave
was coming last November, it didn't happen. The only two Republicans to
win the popular vote in the last 35 years were Bush 41 and 43, yet today
in the new GOP that Trump created, those are considered no good. And now
Trump wants to make 2024 about his grievances, the sore loser stolen election BS.
Other Republicans like you are still trying running around talking about Covid
vaccines and masks. Doesn't sound like a winning agenda for 2024 to me.
And then when you lose, instead of wising up, you'll start with the stolen election
BS again.

[T]

DeSantis is a rising star in the republican party,
so it is your job to lie about him and smear him.

[rbowman]

It's the American way. If you want the best government money can buy you
need lots of Franklins.

[rbowman]

No fear of recreating National Socialist Germany. The BDM was for girls, not confused males.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_German_Girls

The confused joined the Order of the Pink Triangle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle

All that 'mens sana in corpore sano' wouldn't fly either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_sana_in_corpore_sano

[Peeler]

On 31 Mar 2023 02:13:06 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> No fear of recreating National Socialist Germany. The BDM was for girls, not confused males.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_German_Girls
>
> The confused joined the Order of the Pink Triangle.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle
>
> All that 'mens sana in corpore sano' wouldn't fly either.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_sana_in_corpore_sano

You are REALLY not quite right in your head, you abnormal idiotic bullshit
artist! <tsk>

--
Yet more of the so very interesting senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
"My family loaded me into a '51 Chevy and drove from NY to Seattle and
back in '52. I'm alive. The Chevy had a painted steel dashboard with two
little hand prints worn down to the primer because I liked to stand up
and lean on it to see where we were going."
MID: <j2kuc1...@mid.individual.net>

[Peeler]

On 31 Mar 2023 01:40:36 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

>> It's all about the money, isn't it? Are there no other factors that
>> matter to you?
>
> It's the American way. If you want the best government money can buy you
> need lots of Franklins.

That's why a sick, not properly developed and infantile asshole like Trump
is "great" among you!

--
More typical idiotic senile gossip by lowbrowwoman:
"It's been years since I've been in a fast food burger joint but I used
to like Wendy's because they had a salad bar and baked potatoes."
MID: <ivdi4g...@mid.individual.net>

[Cindy Hamilton]

I was talking about his investments. I probably should have snipped a
little bit.

I don't think the President has much of an effect on the stock market,
anyway.

https://www.investopedia.com/presidents-and-their-impact-on-the-stock-market-4587369

The graph on that page shows a greater effect from the invasion of
Ukraine rather than the election of Biden.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Su Nombre]

trader_4 wrote:
> No surprise there, you even believe the stolen election lie, despite
> that having been shot down in over 60 court cases, including many
> with Republican judges, even ones appointed by Trump.

In those 60 court cases, did anyone ever do an *honest*
hardware/firmware/software audit of Dominion's voting machines?

[Oscar]

If only they investigated the voting machines as much as they have investigated President Trump. LOL

--
If the left could compete in the realm of ideas, they wouldn't want to censor us.

If the left were truly a majority, they wouldn't need to censor us.

[Frank]

Same here and as often said, I voted for Trump the program not Trump the
man.

Those like the several here in ng with raging TDS voted for Biden the
man and are willing to get screwed by Biden the program.

[Frank]

The county council president, a democrat, has just announced a 5% one
time reduction in property tax for next year. Has nothing to do with
him wanting to run for governor next year.

I recall an old lady here years ago complaining about increase in county
taxes by 60% under now Senator Coons. She voted for Coons for senate
even though she was complaining about his taxes but because he had not
raised them that year forgot about it.

All democrats know how to do is spend money and their spending is to get
votes for themselves.

[Frank]

The democrats have been finely tuning their stealing of elections which
is why red wave did not happen. PA is corrupt with mail in voting
otherwise how could Senator Vegetable have won.

[trader_4]

No need for us to do it, your boy Trump is leading the smear attempts
against DeSantis. Welcome to the new Trump Republican Party, all must
worship the cult leader, no exceptions.

[trader_4]

They actually did better. In many of the states in question recounts were done
in areas where Trump was claiming fraud. They used the paper ballots and
the results were the same. The entire state of Georgia was recounted
3 times. There were no significant difference between the paper counts
and the machines, nothing remotely possible of having changed the outcome.
And in all those cases, if team Trump wanted an audit of something else,
they could have requested it, paid for it, and the court almost certainly
would have ordered it. But the simple fact is even those making these BS
claims knew they had no evidence of any actual fraud. As we're seeing
come out now, even the Fox News execs and stars knew the stolen election
claims were BS, being made by people they ridiculed in private, but
they kept perpetuating the BS lies to their viewers because they were
giving people like you what you wanted to hear and they were afraid of
losing their audience and their money.

[trader_4]

Right. This from the guy who still supports Trump and claims he voted for
Trump's programs, not the man. One key program that he campaigned on and
did accomplish was a huge, unfunded tax cut. That used trillions of borrowed
money to juice up an economy that was already doing OK. Govt spending
also increased substantially during Trump's term. Trump and your
fellow Trumpers run around crowing today about how great the economy was.
You obviously have no problems when Trump does it, it was part of his program.

[trader_4]

Right, who could argue with such profound evidence of fraud. It's like the
wife of a friend of mine, raging away the day after the 2020 election, it's
impossible that Biden got 81 mil votes, the election was stolen, end of story.

I've explained to you here before how Republicans lost in key states they
were expecting to win in, like PA. Mitch McConnell told you too, he said
we have a candidate quality problem. It wasn't that Fetterman was a great
candidate, it was that most of these candidates like Dr. Oz were picked by
Trump and the Trumpers. The Democrats tied them to Trump, that brought
out Democrats to vote against them. It worked in GA, Trump turned red
state Georgia blue, they handed Trump the final defeat after the 2020
election. Trump as always focused on himself, his grievances and claimed
Georgia was fraud. The voters elected the Democrat.

Oz was also a carpetbagger, he had been living in NJ, not PA until shortly before
the election. That's how you lost and you will keep losing as long as you keep
attributing the losses to stolen election BS instead of looking at and admitting the
real causes. You're on your way to having Trump on the ballot again in 2024,
good luck with that.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 3/31/2023 6:34 AM, Su Nombre wrote:

No, not honest, it was Trump and friends that did it.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 3/31/2023 8:25 AM, Frank wrote:

>
> Same here and as often said, I voted for Trump the program not Trump the
> man.
>
> Those like the several here in ng with raging TDS voted for Biden the
> man and are willing to get screwed by Biden the program.

You voted for tax break for the wealthy and increased debt. Got it.

I did not vote for Biden the man, I voted against Trump, both the man
and his programs.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 9:10:27 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 3/30/23 17:00, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>> Absolutely, I agree with you. Some politicians are drying to do
>>>>> exactly that. like DeSantis and his free speech restrictions. He
>>>>> believes in free speech as long as he agrees with you.
>>>>
>>>> Liar
>>>
>>> DeSantis got screwed by Disney. I've been laughing about the failure of
>>> his vengeance. Disney is smarter than the Florida governor.
>>>
>>> That is what happens when you want to be a dictator. HAHAHAHAHA

> DeSantis is a rising star in the republican party,
> so it is your job to lie about him and smear him.

That twinkling star is starting to get dull. I tell no lies, you just
don't want to admit to the truth. Facts bother you.

Most of his new programs are tied up in the courts. He is costing the
taxpayers a lot of money for nothing good. Just on the latest Disney
flub he brought on a law firm for $12.8 million. The good citizens will
be paying that.

[Bob F]

And he is rapidly divorcing himself from the wishes of a large part of
his population, and a larger part of Americans across the nation.

[rbowman]

On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 09:53:33 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


> I did not vote for Biden the man, I voted against Trump, both the man
> and his programs.

I passed a pickup with a bumper sticker on my noontime walk Tuesday. 'Fuck
Biden and fuck you for voting for him' I don't think the driver much
likes Biden.

[rbowman]

On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 08:48:11 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


> I don't think the President has much of an effect on the stock market,
> anyway.

They're just along for the ride most of the time.


> https://www.investopedia.com/presidents-and-their-impact-on-the-stock-

market-4587369
>
> The graph on that page shows a greater effect from the invasion of
> Ukraine rather than the election of Biden.

It was reported that Zelensky thinks that since the invasion resulted in
greater profits for the oil companies they should share their profits to
rebuild what's left of the Ukraine. That guy never stops.

[Peeler]

On 31 Mar 2023 17:51:52 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> It was reported that Zelensky thinks that since the invasion resulted in
> greater profits for the oil companies they should share their profits to
> rebuild what's left of the Ukraine. That guy never stops.

...this coming from the resident senile gossip whose big mouth REALLY never
stops! LOL

--
More of the resident senile bigmouth's idiotic "cool" blather:
"For reasons I can't recall I painted a spare bedroom in purple. It may
have had something to do with copious quantities of cheap Scotch."
MID: <k89lch...@mid.individual.net>

[Peeler]

On 31 Mar 2023 17:38:07 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> I passed a pickup with a bumper sticker on my noontime walk Tuesday. 'Fuck
> Biden and fuck you for voting for him' I don't think the driver much
> likes Biden.

But you like the driver, don't you, bigmouthed Trumptard? <G>

--
Yet another thrilling account from the resident senile superhero's senile
life:
"I went to a Driveby Truckers concert at a local venue and they made me
leave my knife in the car. Never went back. Come to think of it the Truckers
had a Black Lives Matter banner. Never bought any of their music again
either."
MID: <k84ip9...@mid.individual.net>

[Frank]

I do not like excessive spending by either party but Biden has put it on
steroids. You would have to admit to that unless your TDS has fogged
more of your brain than I thought.

[Frank]

As I wrote before you are incorrigible. But, maybe I'm wrong and you
like open borders, etc you know the rest of all the crap your leader has
done.

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <u07o1n$1jkq7$2...@dont-email.me>, "frank "@frank.net says...

>
> > I did not vote for Biden the man, I voted against Trump, both the man
> > and his programs.
>
> As I wrote before you are incorrigible. But, maybe I'm wrong and you
> like open borders, etc you know the rest of all the crap your leader has
> done.
>
>

When you vote against someone, you often shoot yourself in the foot so
to speak.

[trader_4]

We could be in the second term of a decent Republican if the Trumpers had not
insisted that it had to be Trump. We had 15 other sane, decent candidates, but no
it had to be Trump, despite all the warnings, all that we already saw from this
shyster con man. So the entire Trump shit show is on you and the Trumpers,
not me. Even worse, you're still here defending him, the Trumpers just keep
repeating the same mistake and then they lose, why it's the old stolen election lie.
Going into 2024 what I hear is Trump, stolen election, Covid, vaccines, masks,
banning drag shows, banning discussion of gender identity, removing requirements
for a permit with training to carry..... Sounds like a great strategy for an election in
18 months.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-04-01, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> We could be in the second term of a decent Republican if the Trumpers had not
> insisted that it had to be Trump. We had 15 other sane, decent candidates, but no
> it had to be Trump, despite all the warnings, all that we already saw from this
> shyster con man.

Not all of those 15 were what I'd call sane or decent. Only by
comparison with Trump can Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, or Mike
Huckabee be considered sane or decent.

I voted for Kasich in the 2016 Republican primary. IIRC he was the
only halfway-decent one left by the time the Michigan primary rolled
around.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[trader_4]

Kasich is an example of what the new Trump GOP despises and wants booted
from the party. Ask Mr. T. Just like Romney who was their nominee not long ago.
That's the change Trump achieved. They aren't welcome, but no problems with
Qanon, Proud Boys, white supremacists, as long as they support Trump.

[Frank]

Kasich and Romney are both RINO's.

[Frank]

I keep telling that to traitor-4 who claimed to be a conservative. He
knows that Biden is wrecking the country but his TDS will have him
voting for Biden again.

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <u09klt$1vh98$2...@dont-email.me>, "frank "@frank.net says...

>
> > When you vote against someone, you often shoot yourself in the foot so
> > to speak.
> >
> >
>
> I keep telling that to traitor-4 who claimed to be a conservative. He
> knows that Biden is wrecking the country but his TDS will have him
> voting for Biden again.
>
>

We have seen two presidents and how they are. For the next election we
will have to decide which shit show we will be better off with. Right
now it is looking like SS Trump instead of Biden. I know that my IRA
dropped about 20 % unsed SS Biden. Russia invades Ucrane and China may
do some invading.

[Ed P]

What does it take to be a REAL Republican? Seems like most everyone
before Trump and the Proud Boys in now a RINO. Would Eisenhower qualify?

[Frank]

Some say the lesser of two evils but better said is the team you want to
win if yours does not make it to the super bowl.

I have always been conservative in my investments and do not suffer big
ups and downs.

I think problems with Russia and China would have been less under Trump.
He did not mess around with ISIS and put up with things like JAG where
someone might say not to bomb a truck because the driver might not be
ISIS. He also would have gotten us out of Afghanistan without the mess
Biden caused.

[Frank]

Kasich was a poor loser and would not even got to Ohio convention. I
think Romney was pissed that Trump did not give him a position like
secretary of state. In both guys it was more about them then the country.

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 31 Mar 2023 09:24:20 -0700, Bob F

<bobn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 3/31/2023 6:59 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>

Have you guys covered yet that DeSantis said he would disobey the US
Constitution and not return trump to NY if trump didn't go by himself.

So we know already that he's ready to ignore the Constitution. Most
pols pretend to respect it until they're in office. And for what?
Trump said he's going back on his own so Desantis humiliated himself for
next to nothing.

Article IV
Section 2.
A person charged in any state with treason, felony, or other crime, who
shall flee from justice, and be found in another state, shall on demand
of the executive authority of the state from which he fled, be delivered
up, to be removed to the state having jurisdiction of the crime.


This seems to me to bind the entire state, not just the governor, so if
I were the mayor or police chief of any place where trump went, I'd
arrest him, take him straight to the airport, put him on a flight to
NYC, keep him on the plane until the plene left, and wish him well.

[Ed P]

T would accuse me of mud slinging if I told the truth and brought up
facts. DeSantis suspended an elected prosecutor for saying he would not
prosecute abortion cases then he turns around and does exactly the same
thing.

Dictators make their own laws, they don't need no constitution

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <u0a1m6$21vok$1...@dont-email.me>, "frank "@frank.net says...

>
> I have always been conservative in my investments and do not suffer big
> ups and downs.
>
>
>

I have never been conservative with my investments. I do not play with
the market except for about 5 to 10 % I invest on my own, I do not have
time to research much of the stock so have the IRA in mutual funds.
When Biden was elected I pulled out a good bit and just parked it in a
momey market that pays almost nothing. Just put that in some treasuery
bills. Thay are paying 4.75 % for terms of 4 to 6 months. Probably
the rate will be going up every week for a while. Wish that I had some
funds that I could get into the t-bills that are paying much more but
you can only buy $ 10,000 worth per person. You could buy one in your
wifes name and any other name you could find to agree with it such as
your children.

Sofar the IRA go all over the place but I have been lucky and put the
funds in a money market when the funds were high and then bought back
into the market when it wes low.

[Cindy Hamilton]

The president has very little effect on the value of your IRA. What
_did_ have an effect on your investments was the Russian invasions
of Ukraine. What, precisely, do you think Trump would have done to
prevent that? Do you think he would have prepared and mobilized
NATO to stand up for Ukraine?

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-04-01, Ed P <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
> On 4/1/2023 12:00 PM, Frank wrote:
>> On 4/1/2023 9:17 AM, trader_4 wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> I voted for Kasich in the 2016 Republican primary. IIRC he was the
>>>> only halfway-decent one left by the time the Michigan primary rolled
>>>> around.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> Kasich is an example of what the new Trump GOP despises and wants booted
>>> from the party.  Ask Mr. T.   Just like Romney who was their nominee
>>> not long ago.
>>> That's the change Trump achieved.  They aren't welcome, but no
>>> problems with
>>> Qanon, Proud Boys, white supremacists, as long as they support Trump.
>>
>> Kasich and Romney are both RINO's.
>
>
> What does it take to be a REAL Republican?

A REAL Republican is whatever Frank says it is. We must all bow down to
the infinite wisdom of The Frank.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Scott Lurndal]

Perhaps you should take a class in "cause vs. effect" first.

[rbowman]

On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 14:45:42 -0400, Ed P wrote:

> What does it take to be a REAL Republican? Seems like most everyone
> before Trump and the Proud Boys in now a RINO. Would Eisenhower
> qualify?

https://jacobin.com/2017/07/trump-tax-cuts-health-care-democrats-
redistribution

"Now, faced with his economic team’s recommendations, Clinton agreed to
take up that mantle. But he also seemed to understand the political
significance of the shift that was occurring. “I hope you’re all aware
we’re all Eisenhower Republicans,” Clinton grumbled in another early 1993
economic meeting. “We’re Eisenhower Republicans here, and we are fighting
the Reagan Republicans. We stand for lower deficits and free trade and the
bond market. Isn’t that great?”

Eisenhower was approached by both parties and may have flipped a coin to
determine which he was. According to the John Birch Society he was a
Communist dupe and Milton Eisenhower was his handler.

Back in the day the term was Rockefeller Republicans.

https://www.the-american-interest.com/2015/06/05/rockefeller-republican-
redemption/

That article is dated. Whatever happened to Pataki?

Poor old Rocky got it from both sides. Goldwater for obvious reasons but
Prescott Bush wasn't quite liberal enough to handle ditching your wife and
marrying your girlfriend a year later.

[Bob F]

trump would have sold out Ukraine and not prepared them for the coming
brutal attack, instead of making sure they were prepared for what was
coming.

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 1 Apr 2023 16:49:12 -0400, Ed P

You're absolutely right.

Not sure I'd have to be a mayor or police chief. Seems like anyone
with a uniform and a gun could arrest him. He could get the airline
schedule and arrest him just in time to get to the plane on time, pay
the fare himself** and send a request to NY County for reimbursement.
They'd probably pay because it would be cheaper than sending two of
their guys down there to pick him. up.

**The Boston-NYC shuttles accept cash (maybe even on the plane?), I
think and don't require reservations. What about Florida-NYC?

[Peeler]

On 2 Apr 2023 01:16:53 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> https://jacobin.com/2017/07/trump-tax-cuts-health-care-democrats-
> redistribution
>
> "Now, faced with his economic team’s recommendations, Clinton agreed to
> take up that mantle. But he also seemed to understand the political
> significance of the shift that was occurring. “I hope you’re all aware
> we’re all Eisenhower Republicans,” Clinton grumbled in another early 1993
> economic meeting. “We’re Eisenhower Republicans here, and we are fighting
> the Reagan Republicans. We stand for lower deficits and free trade and the
> bond market. Isn’t that great?”
>
> Eisenhower was approached by both parties and may have flipped a coin to
> determine which he was. According to the John Birch Society he was a
> Communist dupe and Milton Eisenhower was his handler.
>
> Back in the day the term was Rockefeller Republicans.
>
> https://www.the-american-interest.com/2015/06/05/rockefeller-republican-
> redemption/
>
> That article is dated. Whatever happened to Pataki?
>
> Poor old Rocky got it from both sides. Goldwater for obvious reasons but
> Prescott Bush wasn't quite liberal enough to handle ditching your wife and
> marrying your girlfriend a year later.

LOL Endlessly blathering senile asshole! And what a BIGMOUTH!!!!!!! LOL

[Frank]

Thank you for understanding. Follow me and things will be better.

[trader_4]

Bush 41, Bush 43, Reagan, are all Rinos to the extreme cult that Trump
turned the GOP into. All hail Dear Leader Trump!

[trader_4]

As I see it, guys like you wrecked the country by forcing Trump on us.
How many times do I have to point out that there were 15 other sane,
decent, honorable candidates, but no, guys like you had to have Trump.
It's on you that we wound up with Biden, not me. And even worse, you're
all continuing down the same, wrong, stupid path. Stolen election lies,
masks, vaccines, drag queens, banning therapy for transgendered, firing
school principles for showing the Statue of David, many wanting to bail
on Ukraine. Glad I left that stinking hot mess.

[trader_4]

You keep pointing out your IRA performance, despite the fact that I've pointed
out many times that Trump boosted up an economy that was already doing OK
with a huge tax cut that will one day have to be reckoned with, one way or another.
And the stock market was fueled by absurdly low interest rates and liquidity from
the FED, that contributed to the inflation that you're now complaining about. And
then Covid hit, shutting down much of the economy. So how you can keep claiming
that your IRA was the work of Trump and blame the current situation entirely on
Biden, IDK.

As to Russia invading Ukraine, are you not aware that Trump was Putin's buddy,
that he said he believed him that Russia didn't meddle in the election,
that he lobbied the G7 to readmit Russia? They were booted out because of
Putin invading Crimea. Trump also stated that NATO was obsolete, he attacked
it while praising Putin and said the the US might not come to the aid of a NATO
country under attack. When Putin invaded, the whole world was condemning
Putin, Trump said it was "genius" and "savvy". Even now he's saying that he will
end the Ukraine war in 24 hours. What do you think that means? Those are the
words of a sound mind, a responsible man, one that contributes to world stability
and democracy?

[trader_4]

Certainly not. You don't even hear them mentioning Reagan anymore. But Qanon,
Proud Boys, KKK, white supremacists, they are all welcome.

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 1 Apr 2023 13:56:26 -0400, Ralph Mowery

IRAs go up and down. Unless you're going to be withdrawing money for the
IRA, it doesn't matter what its value is now. Unless it was improperly
valued earlier, it will go back up.