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T

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Mar 28, 2023, 8:49:21 PM3/28/23
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Su Nombre

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Mar 29, 2023, 6:48:39 AM3/29/23
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Frank

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Mar 29, 2023, 7:27:38 AM3/29/23
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Far to late to cure those we know infected here.

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 29, 2023, 10:25:12 AM3/29/23
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But most of you guys say vaccines kill people. Can't take the chance.

trader_4

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Mar 29, 2023, 11:16:41 AM3/29/23
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The cultist like to claim that it's people like you and I that are the problem,
that we have some irrational hatred of Trump not grounded in anything factual.
Just look at his first campaign rally in Waco on Saturday. It started off with
a prison choir of Jan 6 convicts singing the Star Spangled Banner, while Trump's
voice recited the Pledge of Allegiance. Just when you thought this POS could
not possibly sink any lower, he does. What is sad is that so many watch that
kind of shit and say it's ok, that cheer him on, that still want him as president
again.

Frank

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Mar 29, 2023, 3:15:24 PM3/29/23
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You may not like Trump the man but if you were a real conservative would
love Trump the program: lower taxes, less regulation, closed borders,
getting out of foreign wars etc.

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 29, 2023, 4:36:37 PM3/29/23
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OMG that is funny. What lower taxes? If I was very wealthy I may agree
but I did not get the breaks billionaires got. Perhaps you did. What
about the increase in national debt from his tax cuts? My kids will pay
that.

How did Trump's policies affect the economy?
Over his term, Trump reduced federal taxes and increased federal
spending, both of which significantly increased federal budget deficits
and the National Debt.

Can you breathe better now Frank?

What environmental regulations did Trump remove?
The Trump administration's major environmental deregulations
Clean Power Plan. ...
Mercury and Air Toxic Standards. ...
Waters of U.S. Rule. ...
Reversal of EPA's chlorpyrifos ban. ...
Methane emissions standards.

T

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Mar 29, 2023, 4:39:08 PM3/29/23
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Uh Ed,

Not-a-real-vaccine vaccines that are not properly
tested and have a LONG track record of damage,
and now show four to five times the infection
rate and death rate of the not-a-real-vaccine
vaccinated and the not-a-real-vaccines that
are being criticized.

Please distinguish. Real vaccines have saved
countless lives.

How about you. You going to get the Trump
derangement vaccine?

-T

Frank

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Mar 29, 2023, 7:30:33 PM3/29/23
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Not you. You are incorrigible. I was addressing the guy that cuts off
his nose to spite his face.

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 29, 2023, 8:55:10 PM3/29/23
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Yes, I'm consistent and work with facts. Many people can't handle it

T

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Mar 29, 2023, 9:07:28 PM3/29/23
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Your "facts" are little more that propaganda narratives.
You swim in a sea of lies and deceit.

Pepe Ron Cini

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Mar 29, 2023, 9:16:22 PM3/29/23
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Oscar

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T

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Gleichschaltung – the restructuring of German society
and government into streamlined, centralized hierarchies
of power, with the intention of gaining total control
and co-ordination of all aspects of society. For the
Nazis, Gleichschaltung meant absolute unequivocal conformity and
obedience. Such uniform programming of thought
was part propaganda induced, partly the result of the
Gestapo enforcement mechanism, and part social pressure
from every direction; it was of paramount importance
to act uniformly if one wanted to remain a member of
the Volksgenossen.

Ralph Mowery

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Mar 30, 2023, 10:32:44 AM3/30/23
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In article <u022nq$dsib$1...@dont-email.me>, "frank "@frank.net says...
>
> You may not like Trump the man but if you were a real conservative would
> love Trump the program: lower taxes, less regulation, closed borders,
> getting out of foreign wars etc.
>
>

That is the way I am. I do not care at all for Trump the man. I would
be hard pressed to have any personal dealings with him.

However his plans for the US are a lot better than any of the last 4 or
5 presidents. I am not wealthy by a long shot, but made lots of money
percentage wise under him. Lost much more under Biden in less than a
year than in many years of the past.

There are some things that Trump did that I did not like, but as with
any president there are some things I have issues with. I agree with
maybe 75 % of what he did as president. I do not think I agree with
anything Biden has done so far.

I often think of any leader as the man that passes out $ 100 bills on
the street. Someone will complain the bills are old and wrinkled
instead of new.

trader_4

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Mar 30, 2023, 11:00:51 AM3/30/23
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Trump's lower taxes mostly benefitted the rich and it greatly increased the
deficits. What is conservative about passing tax cuts that blow out the deficit
that gets passed on to future generations? Any dumb ass can pass a huge
tax cut with an economy that was already doing fine, juice it up more at the
expense of the future.

Closed borders, not really. Where is that wall he was going to build and that
Mexico was going to pay for? He did reduce it, but as I pointed out at the time,
he did it via his usual method, a big stinking shit show and all by exec order
which I told you would be just as easily reversed by the next president. Did
Trump even put forth a comprehensive immigration reform proposal? That's
what leaders do, they lead. Trump governed by division.

Getting out of foreign wars, then why are the Republicans running around
blaming Biden for leaving Afghanistan? You're right, Trump is the one that
surrendered to the Taliban in 2020. He was running for re-election and suddenly
figured out he wanted to be able to take credit for leaving. So he signed that
withdrawal agreement, one with no participation from the Afghan govt and
it called for the US to leave in a year. We will see what the long term consequences
of that move will be. Syria and Iraq, we still have troops there, last time I
checked.

And it's very much all about "the man". I wouldn't trust that POS to run my
family business. He's obviously a malignant narcissist, he displays mental
problems most of the time. We are very fortunate that his mental disorder
didn't result in some major catastrophe. And now he wants to come back
and do it again. It's incredible to me that I can cite something very specific,
like what he just did honoring the Jan 6 criminals as patriots and you turn
around and defend him. That kind of thing isn't just some minor character
flaw, it's beyond despicable. It's clear that it's not me that's deranged, it's
Trump and people like you that just keep egging him on. It's similar to how
Germany wound up with Hitler. Doesn't matter that the man is a raving lunatic,
obviously mentally ill, just look at all the good things he's done for Germany.

trader_4

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Mar 30, 2023, 11:04:28 AM3/30/23
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Speaking of lies and deceit, isn't it time for your daily post about the stolen
election? Covid vaccine conspiracies? Vaccine nonsense?

rbowman

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Mar 30, 2023, 11:04:39 AM3/30/23
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On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 21:24:45 -0700, T wrote:

> Such uniform programming of thought was part propaganda induced, partly
> the result of the Gestapo enforcement mechanism, and part social
> pressure from every direction; it was of paramount importance to act
> uniformly if one wanted to remain a member of the Volksgenossen.

So you prefer the current diversity in the US where there is no shared
culture or morality?

trader_4

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Mar 30, 2023, 11:05:59 AM3/30/23
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This from the guy that believes the stolen election propaganda. That one,,
achieved by Trump, would have made Goebbels proud, he couldn't have
done any better.

trader_4

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Mar 30, 2023, 11:10:35 AM3/30/23
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On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 10:32:44 AM UTC-4, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> In article <u022nq$dsib$1...@dont-email.me>, "frank "@frank.net says...
> >
> > You may not like Trump the man but if you were a real conservative would
> > love Trump the program: lower taxes, less regulation, closed borders,
> > getting out of foreign wars etc.
> >
> >
> That is the way I am. I do not care at all for Trump the man. I would
> be hard pressed to have any personal dealings with him.
>
> However his plans for the US are a lot better than any of the last 4 or
> 5 presidents. I am not wealthy by a long shot, but made lots of money
> percentage wise under him.

And you have no problem that Trump's boost to an economy that was
already doing fine came via tax cuts that blew out the deficits? It's an
economic boost at the cost of borrowed trillions, an ever increasing sum
that puts our national security at risk. That's the price of boosting your
stock. Any dummy can do it.


Lost much more under Biden in less than a
> year than in many years of the past.

You think the fact that Covid arrived, shutting down much of the economy
had anything to do with that?


>
> There are some things that Trump did that I did not like, but as with
> any president there are some things I have issues with. I agree with
> maybe 75 % of what he did as president. I do not think I agree with
> anything Biden has done so far.
>
> I often think of any leader as the man that passes out $ 100 bills on
> the street. Someone will complain the bills are old and wrinkled
> instead of new.

Right, like Trump just has some very minor defects.

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 30, 2023, 11:39:39 AM3/30/23
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It's all about the money, isn't it? Are there no other factors that
matter to you?

--
Cindy Hamilton

Bob F

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Mar 30, 2023, 11:42:26 AM3/30/23
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Just another good GOPer.

T

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Mar 30, 2023, 1:24:38 PM3/30/23
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I prefer we not try to recreate Nazi Germany
or the Soviet Union.

Peeler

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Mar 30, 2023, 1:35:56 PM3/30/23
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On 30 Mar 2023 15:04:33 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> So you prefer the current diversity in the US where there is no shared
> culture or morality?

You don't, Trumptard? I'm not surprised!

--
Yet another thrilling account from the resident senile superhero's senile
life:
"I went to a Driveby Truckers concert at a local venue and they made me
leave my knife in the car. Never went back. Come to think of it the Truckers
had a Black Lives Matter banner. Never bought any of their music again
either."
MID: <k84ip9...@mid.individual.net>

T

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Mar 30, 2023, 1:38:00 PM3/30/23
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Hi Ralph,

If you listen to the cut up and fabricated jobs for
American Pravda, Trump was a total bastard. When I
listened to him directly, I found no such evidence.
What the Left really disliked about him is that he
got back in their faces when they started with the
name calling and did not back away. Previous Republican
presidents got out the public check book and begged
to be liked. Trump also honestly about what he was
thinking rather than political speak which left your
head spinning.

The other thing about Trump was that he broke the RINO
bull s*** about it is better to have a "R" in front
of the name than a "D". RINOs are very little different
than democrats. Why vote for a fake democrat when you
can get a real one.

Things were much better off under Trump than the
current bunch pulling the strings on a clearly
non compose mentis old man who should be in a
rest home.

-T

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 30, 2023, 1:51:50 PM3/30/23
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On 3/29/2023 9:04 PM, T wrote:

>>
>> Yes, I'm consistent and work with facts.  Many people can't handle it
>>
>
> Your "facts" are little more that propaganda narratives.
> You swim in a sea of lies and deceit.


OMG, you say that and tout the wonders of Trump and MAGA. Thanks for
the laugh of the day.

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 30, 2023, 1:54:16 PM3/30/23
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Absolutely, I agree with you. Some politicians are drying to do exactly
that. like DeSantis and his free speech restrictions. He believes in
free speech as long as he agrees with you.

T

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Mar 30, 2023, 4:24:43 PM3/30/23
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Knee jerking after reading my stuff again?

T

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Mar 30, 2023, 4:24:43 PM3/30/23
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Liar

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 30, 2023, 8:00:42 PM3/30/23
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DeSantis got screwed by Disney. I've been laughing about the failure of
his vengeance. Disney is smarter than the Florida governor.

That is what happens when you want to be a dictator. HAHAHAHAHA

trader_4

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Mar 30, 2023, 8:19:46 PM3/30/23
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On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 1:38:00 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 3/30/23 07:32, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> > In article <u022nq$dsib$1...@dont-email.me>, "frank "@frank.net says...
> >>
> >> You may not like Trump the man but if you were a real conservative would
> >> love Trump the program: lower taxes, less regulation, closed borders,
> >> getting out of foreign wars etc.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > That is the way I am. I do not care at all for Trump the man. I would
> > be hard pressed to have any personal dealings with him.
> >
> > However his plans for the US are a lot better than any of the last 4 or
> > 5 presidents. I am not wealthy by a long shot, but made lots of money
> > percentage wise under him. Lost much more under Biden in less than a
> > year than in many years of the past.
> >
> > There are some things that Trump did that I did not like, but as with
> > any president there are some things I have issues with. I agree with
> > maybe 75 % of what he did as president. I do not think I agree with
> > anything Biden has done so far.
> >
> > I often think of any leader as the man that passes out $ 100 bills on
> > the street. Someone will complain the bills are old and wrinkled
> > instead of new.
> Hi Ralph,
>
> If you listen to the cut up and fabricated jobs for
> American Pravda, Trump was a total bastard. When I
> listened to him directly, I found no such evidence.

No surprise there, you even believe the stolen election lie, despite
that having been shot down in over 60 court cases, including many
with Republican judges, even ones appointed by Trump. We present
you with irrefutable proof of what Trump actually said or did and you
ignore it. Like when he went back and forth with the media in the lobby
of Trump Tower about what had happened days before in Charlottesville,
the death of the young woman at the hands of a crazed white supremacist
and then he said "there were very fine people on both sides". One side
was white supremacists, KKK, David Duke, neo-Nazis. What very fine
people would ever march at a rally that was organized by and attended
by those scum? Would you?



> What the Left really disliked about him is that he
> got back in their faces when they started with the
> name calling and did not back away. Previous Republican
> presidents got out the public check book and begged
> to be liked.

Trump was a prolific spender, the deficits greatly increased.
That previous Republican presidents dealt with their opposition
by throwing money at them is just more BS.

Trump also honestly about what he was
> thinking rather than political speak which left your
> head spinning.

The sad thing is that what's mostly in his mind is Trump, Trump, Trump
and the rest that is in there is not good.


>
> The other thing about Trump was that he broke the RINO
> bull s*** about it is better to have a "R" in front
> of the name than a "D". RINOs are very little different
> than democrats. Why vote for a fake democrat when you
> can get a real one.

Keep going. I warned you about Trump. Since Trump the Republicans
have lost the WH, the House and Senate. They claimed a huge red wave
was coming last November, it didn't happen. The only two Republicans to
win the popular vote in the last 35 years were Bush 41 and 43, yet today
in the new GOP that Trump created, those are considered no good. And now
Trump wants to make 2024 about his grievances, the sore loser stolen election BS.
Other Republicans like you are still trying running around talking about Covid
vaccines and masks. Doesn't sound like a winning agenda for 2024 to me.
And then when you lose, instead of wising up, you'll start with the stolen election
BS again.



T

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Mar 30, 2023, 9:10:27 PM3/30/23
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DeSantis is a rising star in the republican party,
so it is your job to lie about him and smear him.

rbowman

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Mar 30, 2023, 9:40:44 PM3/30/23
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It's the American way. If you want the best government money can buy you
need lots of Franklins.

rbowman

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Mar 30, 2023, 10:13:12 PM3/30/23
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No fear of recreating National Socialist Germany. The BDM was for girls, not confused males.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_German_Girls

The confused joined the Order of the Pink Triangle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle

All that 'mens sana in corpore sano' wouldn't fly either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_sana_in_corpore_sano

Peeler

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Mar 31, 2023, 4:13:32 AM3/31/23
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On 31 Mar 2023 02:13:06 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> No fear of recreating National Socialist Germany. The BDM was for girls, not confused males.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_German_Girls
>
> The confused joined the Order of the Pink Triangle.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle
>
> All that 'mens sana in corpore sano' wouldn't fly either.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_sana_in_corpore_sano

You are REALLY not quite right in your head, you abnormal idiotic bullshit
artist! <tsk>

--
Yet more of the so very interesting senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
"My family loaded me into a '51 Chevy and drove from NY to Seattle and
back in '52. I'm alive. The Chevy had a painted steel dashboard with two
little hand prints worn down to the primer because I liked to stand up
and lean on it to see where we were going."
MID: <j2kuc1...@mid.individual.net>

Peeler

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Mar 31, 2023, 4:19:12 AM3/31/23
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On 31 Mar 2023 01:40:36 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


>> It's all about the money, isn't it? Are there no other factors that
>> matter to you?
>
> It's the American way. If you want the best government money can buy you
> need lots of Franklins.

That's why a sick, not properly developed and infantile asshole like Trump
is "great" among you!

--
More typical idiotic senile gossip by lowbrowwoman:
"It's been years since I've been in a fast food burger joint but I used
to like Wendy's because they had a salad bar and baked potatoes."
MID: <ivdi4g...@mid.individual.net>

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 31, 2023, 4:48:17 AM3/31/23
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I was talking about his investments. I probably should have snipped a
little bit.

I don't think the President has much of an effect on the stock market,
anyway.

https://www.investopedia.com/presidents-and-their-impact-on-the-stock-market-4587369

The graph on that page shows a greater effect from the invasion of
Ukraine rather than the election of Biden.

--
Cindy Hamilton

Su Nombre

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Mar 31, 2023, 6:34:47 AM3/31/23
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trader_4 wrote:
> No surprise there, you even believe the stolen election lie, despite
> that having been shot down in over 60 court cases, including many
> with Republican judges, even ones appointed by Trump.

In those 60 court cases, did anyone ever do an *honest*
hardware/firmware/software audit of Dominion's voting machines?

Oscar

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Mar 31, 2023, 7:18:11 AM3/31/23
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If only they investigated the voting machines as much as they have investigated President Trump. LOL

--
If the left could compete in the realm of ideas, they wouldn't want to censor us.

If the left were truly a majority, they wouldn't need to censor us.

Frank

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Mar 31, 2023, 8:25:11 AM3/31/23
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Same here and as often said, I voted for Trump the program not Trump the
man.

Those like the several here in ng with raging TDS voted for Biden the
man and are willing to get screwed by Biden the program.

Frank

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Mar 31, 2023, 8:31:35 AM3/31/23
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The county council president, a democrat, has just announced a 5% one
time reduction in property tax for next year. Has nothing to do with
him wanting to run for governor next year.

I recall an old lady here years ago complaining about increase in county
taxes by 60% under now Senator Coons. She voted for Coons for senate
even though she was complaining about his taxes but because he had not
raised them that year forgot about it.

All democrats know how to do is spend money and their spending is to get
votes for themselves.

Frank

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Mar 31, 2023, 8:35:22 AM3/31/23
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The democrats have been finely tuning their stealing of elections which
is why red wave did not happen. PA is corrupt with mail in voting
otherwise how could Senator Vegetable have won.

trader_4

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Mar 31, 2023, 9:00:34 AM3/31/23
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No need for us to do it, your boy Trump is leading the smear attempts
against DeSantis. Welcome to the new Trump Republican Party, all must
worship the cult leader, no exceptions.

trader_4

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Mar 31, 2023, 9:13:10 AM3/31/23
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They actually did better. In many of the states in question recounts were done
in areas where Trump was claiming fraud. They used the paper ballots and
the results were the same. The entire state of Georgia was recounted
3 times. There were no significant difference between the paper counts
and the machines, nothing remotely possible of having changed the outcome.
And in all those cases, if team Trump wanted an audit of something else,
they could have requested it, paid for it, and the court almost certainly
would have ordered it. But the simple fact is even those making these BS
claims knew they had no evidence of any actual fraud. As we're seeing
come out now, even the Fox News execs and stars knew the stolen election
claims were BS, being made by people they ridiculed in private, but
they kept perpetuating the BS lies to their viewers because they were
giving people like you what you wanted to hear and they were afraid of
losing their audience and their money.

trader_4

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Mar 31, 2023, 9:17:43 AM3/31/23
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Right. This from the guy who still supports Trump and claims he voted for
Trump's programs, not the man. One key program that he campaigned on and
did accomplish was a huge, unfunded tax cut. That used trillions of borrowed
money to juice up an economy that was already doing OK. Govt spending
also increased substantially during Trump's term. Trump and your
fellow Trumpers run around crowing today about how great the economy was.
You obviously have no problems when Trump does it, it was part of his program.

trader_4

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Mar 31, 2023, 9:28:46 AM3/31/23
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Right, who could argue with such profound evidence of fraud. It's like the
wife of a friend of mine, raging away the day after the 2020 election, it's
impossible that Biden got 81 mil votes, the election was stolen, end of story.

I've explained to you here before how Republicans lost in key states they
were expecting to win in, like PA. Mitch McConnell told you too, he said
we have a candidate quality problem. It wasn't that Fetterman was a great
candidate, it was that most of these candidates like Dr. Oz were picked by
Trump and the Trumpers. The Democrats tied them to Trump, that brought
out Democrats to vote against them. It worked in GA, Trump turned red
state Georgia blue, they handed Trump the final defeat after the 2020
election. Trump as always focused on himself, his grievances and claimed
Georgia was fraud. The voters elected the Democrat.

Oz was also a carpetbagger, he had been living in NJ, not PA until shortly before
the election. That's how you lost and you will keep losing as long as you keep
attributing the losses to stolen election BS instead of looking at and admitting the
real causes. You're on your way to having Trump on the ballot again in 2024,
good luck with that.

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 31, 2023, 9:49:05 AM3/31/23
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On 3/31/2023 6:34 AM, Su Nombre wrote:
No, not honest, it was Trump and friends that did it.

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 31, 2023, 9:53:40 AM3/31/23
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On 3/31/2023 8:25 AM, Frank wrote:

>
> Same here and as often said, I voted for Trump the program not Trump the
> man.
>
> Those like the several here in ng with raging TDS voted for Biden the
> man and are willing to get screwed by Biden the program.


You voted for tax break for the wealthy and increased debt. Got it.

I did not vote for Biden the man, I voted against Trump, both the man
and his programs.

Ed Pawlowski

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Mar 31, 2023, 9:59:54 AM3/31/23
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On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 9:10:27 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 3/30/23 17:00, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>> Absolutely, I agree with you. Some politicians are drying to do
>>>>> exactly that. like DeSantis and his free speech restrictions. He
>>>>> believes in free speech as long as he agrees with you.
>>>>
>>>> Liar
>>>
>>> DeSantis got screwed by Disney. I've been laughing about the failure of
>>> his vengeance. Disney is smarter than the Florida governor.
>>>
>>> That is what happens when you want to be a dictator. HAHAHAHAHA

> DeSantis is a rising star in the republican party,
> so it is your job to lie about him and smear him.

That twinkling star is starting to get dull. I tell no lies, you just
don't want to admit to the truth. Facts bother you.

Most of his new programs are tied up in the courts. He is costing the
taxpayers a lot of money for nothing good. Just on the latest Disney
flub he brought on a law firm for $12.8 million. The good citizens will
be paying that.

Bob F

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Mar 31, 2023, 12:24:28 PM3/31/23
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And he is rapidly divorcing himself from the wishes of a large part of
his population, and a larger part of Americans across the nation.

rbowman

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Mar 31, 2023, 1:38:14 PM3/31/23