Table saw question
raymondj
from users here. I'd like to stay in the hundreds range rather than
thousands for starters. Is it possible to start small say a 10" Delta
or DeWalt and expand it with extenders, fence, etc. as needed. I rank
myself just above a novice user but would like something that would
last hopefully forever. A dado blade is something I will use very
often. TIA.
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hope this helps.
George Macomber
go to
http://www.harborfreight.com/
lots of good stuff ...free shipping
I bought my central machinery
table saw there for 299 works
great
Jim Kovar
If I was looking for a decent table saw, I would look in the *for sale*
section of your newspaper or buyer's guide. This way you could at least
see the saw before you bought it. I'm not familiar with Central
Machinery tools from Harbor Freight, they may be O.K. Looking for a used
name brand saw may be your best bet.
dkarnes
i have a delta table saw for ripping and i got a sears radial arm saw
used(in my opinion these are nice saws). look for a used one in the
paper.
Lou W
"raymondj" <poiso...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Go with the Delta or a Jet contractors model. Each will accept a variety
of accy's.
davefr
Harbor Freight is total garbage and 99.99% of the time the crap they
sell isn't even fit for the intended purpose.
Buy quality and you won't regret it in the long run!!!
On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 14:29:23 -0600, George Macomber <geo...@sgi.com>
wrote:
davefr
$500 or so and represent good value.
I've never heard anybody regret buying too high quality a saw. I've
sure heard people harp about buying the "el cheapo" saws.
Edwin Pawlowski
Yes, it is possible to add to the basic configuration. Once you get about
the $500 mark, you will be getting a good saw no matter the brand. I looked
at Delta, Jet, Bridgewood and Rigid. Bought the Delta contractors saw.
My reasons:
The Delta, when run on 220V is 2 HP. Most are 1 1/2 HP at 110 or 220V
Delta had the Biesemeyer fence (they own Biesemeyer)
The Delta has 1" more in front of the blade for wider cross cuts.
The cast iron wing is a solid top. Some brands are webbed and things (like
fingers) can get caught in the web.
It is made in the USA.
You may not care about any of these things or have a different opinion on
them. No matter, if you gave me a Jet I'd be very happy with it also. I
know of similar style saws that are 50 years old and still run and are
still true. They just don't have the fancy fences and guards available
today.
Ed
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RajR
it. A good quality contractor saw can be had for around $500. I would say a
Delta 36650 or a Jet JWTS-10JF are both good candidates and will last for a
while. I have the Jet saw and I really like it. I think a good fence is
essential so if you can afford to spend a couple of hundred more on a Jet
xacta-fence it will be well worth it.
As you are a novice, I would also suggest you get some basic instruction in
using a tablesaw - these things can be very dangerous when used improperly.
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Edwin Pawlowski
"Trent" <trent...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> Sure, Ray. You can get a good starter saw (new) for under $100...and
> then build your own table, extenders, etc. That's what I did...and
> continue to do.
>
Care to give model numbers and brands? There is not a table saw under $200
that is worth expanding. They are all direct drive rather than belt drive.
That means they are more likely to have run out, vibration, and a more
shallow cut. They will not align as well. They will not take a good fence.
They probably have a cast aluminum top that is not as flat or as durable as
a cast iron top.
Yes, it will cut wood, but it is not what a skilled woodworker wants for
high quality accurate work. Building a couple of shelves for the closet? OK
it is fine for that. Making jewelry boxes? I bet them corners do not match
as well as they should.
I do agree that some great bargains can be had used. I looked for a year
and did not find one though, but they do come up at times.
Ed
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raymondj
furniture. I did not mean that I never used cutting tools.
"RajR" <rkra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<a6ce72$3...@news.or.intel.com>...
Steve Manes
>I'd like to purchase a table saw and would like to get some feedback
>from users here. I'd like to stay in the hundreds range rather than
>thousands for starters. Is it possible to start small say a 10" Delta
>or DeWalt and expand it with extenders, fence, etc. as needed.
Yes. With all modesty, I'm a bit more than an amateur and still use a
Ryobi BT3000, which Price/Costco occasionally sells with most options
(including a router) for ~$400. I'll probably be replacing it this
year with a Powermatic, Delta or General, mainly because I suffer from
tool envy and have a large tax refund coming.
------------------------------------------=o&>o----
Steve Manes, Brooklyn, USA
www.magpie.com
Edwin Pawlowski
"Trent" <trent...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> A belt drive is always better?
In most cases it is a better drive system, smoother and quieter. Like
anyting else, you can make a good direct drive and a cheap crappy belt
drive.
> >vibration,
>
> Vibration is BAD?...on the WOOD? lol
No, on the operator. Smooth running tools are easier to work with and help
the operator make a more accurate cut, drill a more accurate hole, or
whatever the tool is supposed to do.
> What does 'shallow' have to do with anything? EVERY saw will be too
> shallow...if you put a piece of wood into it that it can't
> accommodate.
Correct, but it may be a factor in what the original poster want to do.
> Mine is flat. There is no such thing as 'not as flat'. Its either
> flat...or it isn't.
Ok, wrong choice of words. The better cast iron top is likely to have less
dimensional differential and is more likely to maintain it tolerance over
the years.
> High quality work doesn't come from ANY tool. It comes from the
> craftsman. There was much quality work created before the table saw
> was even invented.
But the best of craftsmen can do better work with better tools. It not, we
would still be using spoke shaves and hand saws as there would be no reason
to make anything better. I agree tht it does take more skill to make the
same high quality pice from less than the best tools.
> Its not the table saw's job to be perfect. That's my job!
Yes, but I like to make my job easier when I can. Good enough is not. Hey
it not easy being a perfectionist and lazy at the same time.
> I was just trying to present a different perspective, Ed. With all
> things in life, there's better quality from one tool to the next. I
> would expect to get a better cut and less hassle from a cabinet saw,
> of course. But I would also expect to be able to create quality work
> from either.
This is true, and there is also the law of diminishing returns. As the price
of a tool is doubles is the quality of the work doubled? How about doubling
the price again?
> To me, there's something special about getting by with a $99 saw...and
> still putting out quality work. Its more of a challenge...more of a
> sense of pride.
Your satisfaction is what counts. There are low income people driving
expensive luxury cars and there are wealthy people driving 12 year old
econo-boxes. Either one can get you back and forth to work or to the beach.
Depends on your definition of fun. I drove a beat up Karmenn Ghia
convertible (paid $15 for it) On a nice spring day I'd put the top down and
many drivers in fancy cars looked at me with envy. It was not as much fun
come winter as it has no heat.
BTW, I just gave away my $200 benchtop saw. The guy I gave it to was glad
to get it as it is better than what he has now.
Ed
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