How to protect corner from people that drive over curb?
Zootal
anything to do with my question...). When people drive around the corner,
the drive over the curb. Sometimes they go a foot or more into the grass.
The curb has been destroyed, and the corner is a bud pit because of
people driving over it.
So I decide to do some landscaping. I put a rock and a wood stump in the
grass near the corner. Pics here:
file:///P:/HellServer/htdocs/STUFF/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1292
.JPG
file:///P:/HellServer/htdocs/STUFF/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1288
.JPG
Surprisingly, people not only continue to drive over the curb, but now
they drive over the rock and the stump. I'm concerned that someone is
going to hurt themselves or their car, and sue me. Yeah, I know, how is
it my fault if someone drives through my yard and runs over my
landscaping and hurts themselves or their car? In this era of decadent
lawmaking, I'm not sure I'd win such a case.
So, my options:
1) remove stump and rock, let them destroy the corner.
2) Put a bigger rock there.
Any comments? I'm not sure what I want to do - People don't seem to be
smart enough to stay on the street, and sooner or later someone is going
to damage their car and even hurt themselves. Then they start to think of
suing me.
Shaun Eli
cardboard cutout of a kid?
paint the curb bright red?
HeyBub
And they can prove you put the rock there exactly how?
Anyway, people are presumably turning right onto a narrow road and there is
another vehicle stopped on the road they're turning into. This leaves them
with only a small avenue of navigation.
It CAN be done, but the drivers find it easier to simply drive over the
curb.
Here are two options:
1. Get the city road repair crew to come out and rework the intersection.
2. Rework the curb yourself, giving the drivers more room and a gentler
curve to make the turn.
You cannot educate the drivers - you have to deal with the problem they
present.
George
Bigger rock. At least it is typically not considered an unnatural
obstacle so if someone hits it too bad.
My brother has the same exact problem. He actually moved the corner back
giving up 8' of his property. He erected various landscaping ties etc
and they would just get trashed. A few years back there was a major
excavation not far from his house and he paid them to bring a big rock
over and place it on the corner. Problem solved.
Edward Reid
<nos...@spam.zootal.nospam.com> wrote:
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>file:///P:/HellServer/htdocs/STUFF/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1292
>.JPG
>file:///P:/HellServer/htdocs/STUFF/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1288
>.JPG
Those URLs are on your computer. We can't see them. Please tell us
where you uploaded the photos.
Lacking the photos, is this damage (and attempted remediation)
occurring on your property or on the right of way?
Edward
jeff_wisnia
Maybe you could pave the area which has become a "bud pit" so you won't
have to notice that they've driven over it?
Jeff
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Zootal
news:Xns9DFD7482816E9no...@216.196.97.131:
> I have a corner lot, and there is a stop sign on the corner (not that
> has anything to do with my question...). When people drive around the
> corner, the drive over the curb. Sometimes they go a foot or more into
> the grass. The curb has been destroyed, and the corner is a bud pit
> because of people driving over it.
>
> So I decide to do some landscaping. I put a rock and a wood stump in
> the grass near the corner. Pics here:
>
> file:///P:/HellServer/htdocs/STUFF/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF12
> 92 .JPG
> file:///P:/HellServer/htdocs/STUFF/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF12
> 88 .JPG
>
> Surprisingly, people not only continue to drive over the curb, but now
> they drive over the rock and the stump. I'm concerned that someone is
> going to hurt themselves or their car, and sue me. Yeah, I know, how
> is it my fault if someone drives through my yard and runs over my
> landscaping and hurts themselves or their car? In this era of decadent
> lawmaking, I'm not sure I'd win such a case.
>
> So, my options:
>
> 1) remove stump and rock, let them destroy the corner.
> 2) Put a bigger rock there.
>
> Any comments? I'm not sure what I want to do - People don't seem to be
> smart enough to stay on the street, and sooner or later someone is
> going to damage their car and even hurt themselves. Then they start to
> think of suing me.
Sorry.....
http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1286.JPG
http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1288.JPG
http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1291.JPG
BobR
My first thought is to just put a big ass boulder there surrounded by
some stones and let the destroy their stupid cars. Hell, if than
can't drive any better than that, they deserve what they get.
My second thought is to just dig out the area across the corner and
concrete the area over. In short, you may not be able to deter them
but you don't have to put up with the ugly results.
If it were me, I would repair the curb to make it more difficult to
drive over, put in a big ass boulder that they couldn't help but see
surrounded by some flowers and other landscaping. Oh yes, I almost
forgot...bury some spikes in the landscaping to help them remember to
NOT DRIVE OVER THE DAMN CURB.
Zootal
news:i7iua1$huo$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
> Zootal wrote:
>> I have a corner lot, and there is a stop sign on the corner (not that
>> has anything to do with my question...). When people drive around the
>> corner, the drive over the curb. Sometimes they go a foot or more
>> into the grass. The curb has been destroyed, and the corner is a bud
>> pit because of people driving over it.
>>
>> So I decide to do some landscaping. I put a rock and a wood stump in
>> the grass near the corner. Pics here:
>>
>> file:///P:/HellServer/htdocs/STUFF/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1
>> 292 .JPG
>> file:///P:/HellServer/htdocs/STUFF/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1
>> 288 .JPG
>>
>> Surprisingly, people not only continue to drive over the curb, but
>> now they drive over the rock and the stump. I'm concerned that
>> someone is going to hurt themselves or their car, and sue me. Yeah, I
>> know, how is it my fault if someone drives through my yard and runs
>> over my landscaping and hurts themselves or their car? In this era of
>> decadent lawmaking, I'm not sure I'd win such a case.
>>
>> So, my options:
>>
>> 1) remove stump and rock, let them destroy the corner.
>> 2) Put a bigger rock there.
>>
>> Any comments? I'm not sure what I want to do - People don't seem to
>> be smart enough to stay on the street, and sooner or later someone is
>> going to damage their car and even hurt themselves. Then they start
>> to think of suing me.
>
>
> Maybe you could pave the area which has become a "bud pit" so you
> won't have to notice that they've driven over it?
>
> Jeff
>
I fixed the file links...sorry...
That actualy doesn't sound like so bad of an idea, and should not cost
that much. Hmm...might have to give that one some serious thought.
dpb
> jeff_wisnia <jwisniaDu...@conversent.net> wrote in
> news:i7iua1$huo$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> Zootal wrote:
>>> corner, the drive over the curb. Sometimes they go a foot or more
>>> into the grass. The curb has been destroyed, and the corner is a bud
>>> pit because of people driving over it.
>>>
>>> So I decide to do some landscaping. I put a rock and a wood stump in
>>> the grass near the corner. Pics here:
>>> Surprisingly, people not only continue to drive over the curb, but
>>> now they drive over the rock and the stump. I'm concerned that
>>> someone is going to hurt themselves or their car, and sue me. Yeah, I
>>> know, how is it my fault if someone drives through my yard and runs
>>> over my landscaping and hurts themselves or their car? In this era of
>>> decadent lawmaking, I'm not sure I'd win such a case.
>>> Any comments? I'm not sure what I want to do - People don't seem to
>>> be smart enough to stay on the street, and sooner or later someone is
>>> going to damage their car and even hurt themselves. Then they start
>>> to think of suing me.
>>
>> Maybe you could pave the area which has become a "bud pit" so you
>> won't have to notice that they've driven over it?
> That actualy doesn't sound like so bad of an idea, and should not cost
> that much. Hmm...might have to give that one some serious thought.
I'd guess two things --
First, it's likely there's an easement to that along the curb and the
city or local jurisdiction has say-so of what you can do. Not that it's
likely they'll care but it's possible anything you do they can either
make you take it out or make it be up to their applicable code on
materials, load-bearing capacity, etc., etc., etc., ... So, I'd find
out local rules before I did anything of any significant effort or value...
Second, given that there isn't any significant curb height (owing, it
appears, to repaving having raised street level to nearly top of
existing curb) I'd expect that paving the corner will simply lead to
folks cutting off yet more and just moving the damage farther over, in
the end, gaining nothing. I suspect the folks that are doing it are
those that are just making a "rolling stop" at best and they're
eye-balling the street to the left while turning in the neighborhood of
the corner rather than coming to a stop and then making the turn.
In short, unless you can somehow get the city involved to change the
traffic flow I'd guess it's going to continue to be an issue.
I'd also expect given 1) that you are in violation of local ordinance by
putting any obstruction there so that indeed, you'd likely not fare well
if something did happen.
Know your local city-council critter? A chat w/ him might be useful for
hints on what you might get assistance with, depending on the size of
the town and local mindset, etc., ... Some places are helpful, others
"not so much".
--
HeyBub
>
> Know your local city-council critter? A chat w/ him might be useful
> for hints on what you might get assistance with, depending on the
> size of the town and local mindset, etc., ... Some places are helpful,
> others
> "not so much".
Aside:
People get involved in politics for one of three reasons: Power, Pride, or
Profit.
In this case, if you've donated to your local city councilman, worked in his
campaign, or attended rallies on his behalf, you have Power.
Red
no maintenance gravel scape it.
dual purpose area.
then small cheap flags?? around edge that can be replaced regularly when
runover.
don't fight the mountain.
Bob F
> Zootal wrote:
>> I have a corner lot, and there is a stop sign on the corner (not
>> that has anything to do with my question...). When people drive
>> around the corner, the drive over the curb. Sometimes they go a foot
>> or more into the grass. The curb has been destroyed, and the corner
>> is a bud pit because of people driving over it.
>
> won't have to notice that they've driven over it?
What's wrong with a pit of bud anyway?
Bob F
Ny neighbor used bigger, sharper rocks. He did get a notice from the city to
remove them, which he has ignored.
AZ Nomad
>anything to do with my question...). When people drive around the corner,
>the drive over the curb. Sometimes they go a foot or more into the grass.
>The curb has been destroyed, and the corner is a bud pit because of
>people driving over it.
>So I decide to do some landscaping. I put a rock and a wood stump in the
>grass near the corner. Pics here:
>file:///P:/HellServer/htdocs/STUFF/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1292
>.JPG
Those links are worthless to anybody who isn't logged onto your home
network.
How about enhancing the curb to be 10" concrete with no rounded edge? A 3'-5'
boulder might also do the trick.
AZ Nomad
>Sorry.....
Those rocks are a joke. Get something at least 1' in diameter and use
about ten of them going around the turn.
Robert Neville
>So, my options:
>
>1) remove stump and rock, let them destroy the corner.
>2) Put a bigger rock there.
>
>Any comments? I'm not sure what I want to do - People don't seem to be
>smart enough to stay on the street, and sooner or later someone is going
>to damage their car and even hurt themselves. Then they start to think of
>suing me.
I'm thinking a single reverse spike, something like those panels that prevent
entry into parking lots, except that its fixed and faces towards traffic.
Presumably not a loss of control hazard as they should be coming to a full stop.
Doesn't prevent people from doing stupid things but definitely makes them buy a
new tire.
Bob F
No. It makes the OP buy a new tire. Or many tires.
Jon Danniken
>
> Any comments? I'm not sure what I want to do - People don't seem to be
> smart enough to stay on the street, and sooner or later someone is
> going to damage their car and even hurt themselves. Then they start
> to think of suing me.
Put this on your corner:
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9853/claymoremine.jpg
Jon
Doug Miller
>I have a corner lot, and there is a stop sign on the corner (not that has
>anything to do with my question...). When people drive around the corner,
>the drive over the curb. Sometimes they go a foot or more into the grass.
>The curb has been destroyed, and the corner is a bud pit because of
>people driving over it.
>
>So I decide to do some landscaping. I put a rock and a wood stump in the
>grass near the corner. Pics here:
>
>file:///P:/HellServer/htdocs/STUFF/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1292
>file:///P:/HellServer/htdocs/STUFF/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1288
>..JPG
Those URLs are on *your* computer. We can't see them from here.
Larry W
Stand on the corner, when they drive over the curb let them hit you, then
YOU sue THEM! :)
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Mark
> In article <Xns9DFD7482816E9nospamspamzootaln...@216.196.97.131>,
move the edge of the grass back a few feet and pave over the area
making part of the sidewalk and then let it go..
Mark
Oren
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>http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1286.JPG
>http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1288.JPG
>http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1291.JPG
Something like this, maybe?
Zootal
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I dunno...I live in a small welfare town in rural Oregon. I'm afraid I'd
depopulate the town if I did that...which in retrospect may not be such a
bad idea after all. Good way to clean up the gene pool and all that...
Stormin Mormon
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So, my options:
Any comments? I'm not sure what I want to do - People don't seem to be
Stormin Mormon
of driveway for snow plows. I'm guessing you have fence stakes,
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Stormin Mormon
spray up under, so the cars will drip paint for a week.
I think the answer is a lot more rocks, and much bigger ones.
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>
> Maybe you could pave the area which has become a "bud pit" so you
> won't have to notice that they've driven over it?
>
> Jeff
>
That actualy doesn't sound like so bad of an idea, and should not cost
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Zootal <nos...@spam.zootal.nospam.com> wrote:
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> Sorry.....
>
> http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1286.JPG
> http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1288.JPG
> http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2010/2010septembercurb/images/DSCF1291.JPG
Some wide shots would be helpful, too. Doesn't look like much of a curb
even where it hasn't been run over. What is it, about 1" tall?
HeyBub
Or a coffin.
Sam E
Maybe that's what they're coming for.
Mark Lloyd
[snip]
> move the edge of the grass back a few feet and pave over the area making
> part of the sidewalk and then let it go..
>
> Mark
Those pictures seem to show a sidewalk that ends just before the corner.
There's a few of those weird looking things around here.
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