List of insulation brands/products containing asbestos?

[Ken Fox]

I checked the EPA site and did a few web searches, but I didn't turn
up anything specific. Does anybody know of a listing of specific
brands of products known to contain asbestos? I have a house built
around 1949 that has paper-backed fiber insulation installed in the
ceilings. The company that produced it was (is?) Standard Cotton
Products Co. of Flint, Michigan. It is touted as fire resistant on
the paper backing.

I'm planning on having it tested for asbestos anyway, but it still
surprised me when I couldn't find a product listing. What happens
with all the test results? Aren't they kept?

If it does contain asbestos, any opinions on removal? The portion
over the kitchen is going to be disturbed because I'm putting in a
new light circuit. (Ugh. Actually, I disturbed it accidentally
*while* putting in the new circuit. Who would have suspected
insulation in the ceiling of the first floor of a two-story house?)
Is asbestos removal a DIY project?

Thanks in advance,

- Ken

[Handy...@webtv.net]

More than likely, you have just ordinaru old fiberglass insulation.
There could be some asbestos in it, but not much. Why do you want to
remove it, even if it is asbestos, anyhow? You have already done the
electrical work, right? Then it should not be a problem if it is going
to remain undisturbed.
Insulation is commonly used as a sound barrier betweeen floors and
between rooms.
Personally, al this hype over *dangerous* asbestos is just that, hype.
It has been used, and is in use, in millions of homes and buildings all
over the world. Sure, I don't doubt that factory workers that were
exposed to the fibers over a long period of time, or people that
installed the material, may have had some problems as a result of it,
but like so many other things, the government has decided, all of a
sudden, that it is dangerous. EEEk! I am soooo scared! Not!

[heat...@gmail.com]

Did you ever end up testing this insulation? We just found the same thing in our 1952 bungalow and are worried it might contain asbestos!

[hub...@ccanoemail.com]

>Did you ever end up testing this insulation?
>We just found the same thing in our 1952 bungalow
>and are worried it might contain asbestos!

When in doubt - have it properly sampled & tested in a lab.
Get expert advice - on site.
Asbestos isn't always a problem - if kept undisturbed.
( keeping others from disturbing it is another challenge )
Removal is a job for professionals with all the proper training and
equipment.
I have seen asbestos in window caulk ; electrical panel-board ;
wall plaster & wall board ; floor tile backing ; JM siding ;
.. heard of it in ceiling tiles - I've not actually seen that one.
as well as all the usual places - pipe & duct insulation ; brake
shoes .. furnace, oven, heaters, etc
John T.


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[Micky]

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 08:29:24 -0700 (PDT), heat...@gmail.com wrote:

>Did you ever end up testing this insulation? We just found the same thing in our 1952 bungalow and are worried it might contain asbestos!

This Insulation has not been tested by any private or goverment lab.

[Paint...@unlisted.moo]

And the risk is highly over rated, so these "professional removal
companies" can make a fortune. It's been used in electrical devices for
decades and has harmed no one. Unless it's in a form where it turns into
a powder which can get in your lungs, it wont harm anyone. Touching it
with your skin is harmless. Vinyl Asbestos tile is harmless since it's
solid, (unless you sand the floor, or grind the tiles on a grinder).
Same for it being in caulk or siding. (except when you saw that siding).

Auto brakes are ine instance where it *IS* dangerous, particularly when
replacing brakes, because all that fine dust is inside the brake drums.
From what I understand, asbestos has not been used in brake shoe linings
for at least a decade. That leads me to the question, "What are they
made out of now"? It's not plastic, not metal, not wood or anything else
that can be identified.... What is it?

[Micky]

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 16:02:18 -0500, Paint...@unlisted.moo wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:11:42 -0400, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>
>>
>>>Did you ever end up testing this insulation?
>>>We just found the same thing in our 1952 bungalow
>>>and are worried it might contain asbestos!
>>
>>
>>When in doubt - have it properly sampled & tested in a lab.
>>Get expert advice - on site.
>>Asbestos isn't always a problem - if kept undisturbed.
>>( keeping others from disturbing it is another challenge )
>>Removal is a job for professionals with all the proper training and
>>equipment.
>>I have seen asbestos in window caulk ; electrical panel-board ;
>>wall plaster & wall board ; floor tile backing ; JM siding ;
>>.. heard of it in ceiling tiles - I've not actually seen that one.
>>as well as all the usual places - pipe & duct insulation ; brake
>>shoes .. furnace, oven, heaters, etc
>> John T.
>>
>
>And the risk is highly over rated, so these "professional removal
>companies" can make a fortune. It's been used in electrical devices for
>decades and has harmed no one. Unless it's in a form where it turns into
>a powder which can get in your lungs, it wont harm anyone. Touching it
>with your skin is harmless. Vinyl Asbestos tile is harmless since it's
>solid, (unless you sand the floor, or grind the tiles on a grinder).
>Same for it being in caulk or siding. (except when you saw that siding).

A friend of mine sold his parents' beautiful house, built in the late
40's or 50's, and when he drove by he saw the men in white hazmat
suits removing the asbestos floor tile from the basement, and he
laughed. Cost 5 or 10,000. But they had little children and enough
money to buy this expensive house, so they were doing everything.

>
>Auto brakes are ine instance where it *IS* dangerous, particularly when
>replacing brakes, because all that fine dust is inside the brake drums.
>From what I understand, asbestos has not been used in brake shoe linings
>for at least a decade. That leads me to the question, "What are they
>made out of now"? It's not plastic, not metal, not wood or anything else
>that can be identified.... What is it?

Beef fat.

[Paint...@unlisted.moo]

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 17:43:31 -0400, Micky <NONONO...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

>A friend of mine sold his parents' beautiful house, built in the late
>40's or 50's, and when he drove by he saw the men in white hazmat
>suits removing the asbestos floor tile from the basement, and he
>laughed. Cost 5 or 10,000. But they had little children and enough
>money to buy this expensive house, so they were doing everything.

That Hazmat company found another SUCKER !!!!

[bob haller]

soon no home with lead or asbestos will be able to be sold untill its all removed..

the day is coming, sooner than you will believe.

[Paint...@unlisted.moo]

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:12:36 -0700 (PDT), bob haller <hal...@aol.com>
wrote:

>
>soon no home with lead or asbestos will be able to be sold untill its all removed..
>
>the day is coming, sooner than you will believe.

Yep, I know where they just torn down a very attractive well built
former small hospital building, which was built in the 1950s. It was all
solid brick, well maintained, good roof, and so on.....
But it had asbestos on the pipes, so it was ripped down and will be
replaced to provide apartments.

What a goddamn waste......
Especially when there are people who need a place to live.... (as in
"low income housing".... )

The new building will probably all be built from particle board and will
last 30 years max.


Soon, out planet will run out of building materials, and that day is

coming, sooner than you will believe.

Our whole society is based on wastefulness!!!

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 3/20/2016 6:12 PM, bob haller wrote:
>
> soon no home with lead or asbestos will be able to be sold untill its all removed..
>
> the day is coming, sooner than you will believe.
>

Here in CT they were getting ready to do renovations to a 100 year old
school building. It was discovered the ceiling had asbestos. They took
proper action. they had an emergency evacuation of the building! After
100 years they decided it was not prudent to let the kids finish class
for another couple of hours. Or even finish the semester.

When I sold my house in 1981 is still had the original lead water main
coming into the house. Bet I could not do that today.

[bob haller]

the elementary school i attended in the 60s was closed the building was up for sale for 250 grand, with a clean up costs to the new owners of 180 K or so, asbestos, lead, mercury, etc etc

[bob haller]

>
> When I sold my house in 1981 is still had the original lead water main
> coming into the house. Bet I could not do that today.

the companies making PEX water lines must be thrilled

[Oren]

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 18:32:07 -0700 (PDT), bob haller <hal...@aol.com>
wrote:

>
>>

>> When I sold my house in 1981 is still had the original lead water main
>> coming into the house. Bet I could not do that today.
>
>the companies making PEX water lines must be thrilled

And the plumbers. You can PEX a new construction house in about a day
or so. Maybe a second trip to connect a manifold finish (depends on
how if is mounted -- in the wall or on the wall). PEX NG lines about
the same when the meter is put in.