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toug...@theweb.org

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Sep 21, 2010, 7:03:48 AM9/21/10
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I just painted my whole house with lead paint, both indoors and
outdoors. Now I want to replace all my plumbing with lead pipe, and
cover it with asbestos insulation.

I'm tired of the government telling me all this stuff is bad, and plan
to prove them wrong. After all, I'm a man, and a tough one at that.
I could eat lead and be just fine, but since it tastes crappy (yea, I
tried it), I'll just use my lead silverware, get my water from lead
pipes, and eat my dinner off the dinner plates I painted with the left
over lead paint from when I painted the house. And at bedtime, I have
my specially made asbestos blankets & sheets. Now, if only I can
figure out how to generate my own radon, I'll be happy.

But there's a problem, I cant find any lead pipe. The plumbers all
want to sell me this cancer causing plastic pipe called PEX. I sure
as hell dont want that dangerous stuff in my house. Give me LEAD....
the pipe made for the REAL MAN !!!!!

Frank

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Sep 21, 2010, 7:23:30 AM9/21/10
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On 9/21/2010 7:03 AM, toug...@theweb.org wrote:
> I just painted my whole house with lead paint, both indoors and
> outdoors. Now I want to replace all my plumbing with lead pipe, and
> cover it with asbestos insulation.
>
> I'm tired of the government telling me all this stuff is bad, and plan
> to prove them wrong. After all, I'm a man, and a tough one at that.
> I could eat lead and be just fine, but since it tastes crappy (yea, I
> tried it), I'll just use my lead silverware, get my water from lead
> pipes, and eat my dinner off the dinner plates I painted with the left
> over lead paint from when I painted the house. And at bedtime, I have
> my specially made asbestos blankets& sheets. Now, if only I can

> figure out how to generate my own radon, I'll be happy.
>
> But there's a problem, I cant find any lead pipe. The plumbers all
> want to sell me this cancer causing plastic pipe called PEX. I sure
> as hell dont want that dangerous stuff in my house. Give me LEAD....
> the pipe made for the REAL MAN !!!!!
>

School must be starting late in your area or have you graduated and just
can't find a job.

The Daring Dufas

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Sep 21, 2010, 7:46:03 AM9/21/10
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Perhaps when he was teething, he chewed on a car battery? 8-)

TDD

keith

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Sep 21, 2010, 8:38:57 AM9/21/10
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Colonel Mustard has it in the conservatory.

Harry K

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Sep 21, 2010, 10:13:50 AM9/21/10
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Your mommy out of the house is she?

Harry K

jtees4

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Sep 21, 2010, 1:06:00 PM9/21/10
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You'd die a few years earlier...but I'll bet everything in your house
would work better too.

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gwandsh

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Sep 21, 2010, 7:11:51 PM9/21/10
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> Somehow I think you're just screwing around, but....

D'ya think?

Let's not feed the trolls...

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John Gilmer

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Sep 22, 2010, 8:52:03 AM9/22/10
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>
> But there's a problem, I cant find any lead pipe. The plumbers all
> want to sell me this cancer causing plastic pipe called PEX. I sure
> as hell dont want that dangerous stuff in my house. Give me LEAD....
> the pipe made for the REAL MAN !!!!!

We all know you are having "fun," but it's still an interesting question.

One reason that Pb was used so much for plumbing (in fact, the word itself
comes from the Latin for lead) is that it is so damn easy to makes pipes
from lead.

Toward the end of the "lead era" pipe could be made by high pressure
extrusion presses. The lead protection on some telephone cables was made
this way.

But lead pipe technology is over 2,000 years old!

The "quick and dirty" way is to just pour out liquid lead on a slab of
marble or whatever and create a sheet of lead. This was trimmed and then
rolled into a pipe shape by wrapping it around a properly sized piece of
wood. The ends could be joined by welding (i.e.: using a very hot tool to
barely melt the junction) or by soldering with a tin/lead alloy or by
pouring additional lead onto the joint.

Sheets can also be rolled out or just hammered out also.

Lead is still used in some organ pipes using the solder technique.

Joints in lead pipe just required the plumber to heat up a laddle of lead to
the melting point and just pouring it onto the joint. Rags were used to
"wipe" the joint and make the liquid lead go where wanted. Since lead is
quite soft, excess could easily be trimmed away.

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Bennett Price

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Sep 22, 2010, 12:13:29 PM9/22/10
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On 9/22/2010 6:34 AM, j...@myplace.com wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:52:03 -0400, "John Gilmer"
> <jlgi...@localnet.com> wrote:
>
>> But lead pipe technology is over 2,000 years old!
>>
>> The "quick and dirty" way is to just pour out liquid lead on a slab of
>> marble or whatever and create a sheet of lead. This was trimmed and then
>> rolled into a pipe shape by wrapping it around a properly sized piece of
>> wood. The ends could be joined by welding (i.e.: using a very hot tool to
>> barely melt the junction) or by soldering with a tin/lead alloy or by
>> pouring additional lead onto the joint.
>>
>> Sheets can also be rolled out or just hammered out also.
>>
>> Lead is still used in some organ pipes using the solder technique.
>>
>> Joints in lead pipe just required the plumber to heat up a laddle of lead to
>> the melting point and just pouring it onto the joint. Rags were used to
>> "wipe" the joint and make the liquid lead go where wanted. Since lead is
>> quite soft, excess could easily be trimmed away.
>
> During my years as a handyman and remodeler, I ran across lead pipes
> several times. Mostly just the lateral supply pipe from the street to
> the house, but I did see some interior lead supply pipes and even a
> few drain pipes. I always noticed the "ball" of lead where they were
> joined together. My question was whether they had some sort of mold
> they poured the molten lead to make that ball? I cant see it just
> poured on, there had to be something to make the shape. Maybe some
> steel device that clamped around the junction where lead was poured
> into a hole on the top.
>
> I did lead together cast iron drain pipes several times using oakum
> and a lead pot and the chisels that packed it into place. I even got
> pretty good at that, but I never tried to join lead pipes. Several
> times I found lead laterals with the shut off valve on the basement
> being defective. The first time I ran across this I was not sure what
> to do, but a plumbing supply store sold me a clamp on brass junction
> piece that had a rubber seal that tightened against the lead. The
> other end had a threaded female for installing a new valve or any
> common steel pipe. I used these things several times later and they
> were quick and easy.
>
> But those well formed balls of lead at the joints were not just made
> by pouring lead around the pipes. Whether horizontal or vertical,
> there had to be something to hold their shape.
>
Take a look at
http://chestofbooks.com/home-improvement/construction/plumbing/Standard-Practical/Chapter-III-Joint-Wiping.html

It seems that no form or mold was needed to neatly solder lead to lead.

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