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5...@pobox.com

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Here's what I tried:

I went out night before last and raked away the leaves, etc. on the ground
in the vicinity of the nest. Of course this obscured their hole as
expected. Also as expected, their hole became very easy to find as they
worked on it the next day.

Last night I shot about 1/2 can of Black Flag foaming hornet killer down
the hole.

Today there seems to be as many coming in and out of the hole as ever. I
have killed entire nests with this technique before, though I may have used
a different brand.

Questions:

Do you know a sure fire technique to kill the entire nest?

Are some brands of hornet killer better than others?

Thanks.

RamblinOn

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5...@pobox.com wrote:

> Here's what I tried:
>
> I went out night before last and raked away the leaves, etc. on the ground
> in the vicinity of the nest. Of course this obscured their hole as
> expected. Also as expected, their hole became very easy to find as they
> worked on it the next day.
>
> Last night I shot about 1/2 can of Black Flag foaming hornet killer down
> the hole.
>
> Today there seems to be as many coming in and out of the hole as ever. I
> have killed entire nests with this technique before, though I may have used
> a different brand.

Be sure that nobody, especially small children, can wander into your yard and
step into this nest. There have been kids in Florida who died as a result. I
believe the nests can be very large and it may take a professional pest control
company to do it.

cla...@sj.znet.com

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Hi,
I use gasoline.
Dan

Alan

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5 gallons should do it. But don't try to use a lighter or match. Instead,
stand way back and throw a road flare.

Seriously though, buy 4 or 5 gallons of bleach and fill the hole with it.
Do it again after a day just to be sure. If they survive that, move out.
They've won and you don't want to mess with them.
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> Hi,
> I use gasoline.
> Dan

Mark Fenley

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On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:01:53 GMT, "Alan" <alan...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>5 gallons should do it. But don't try to use a lighter or match. Instead,
>stand way back and throw a road flare.
>
>Seriously though, buy 4 or 5 gallons of bleach and fill the hole with it.
>Do it again after a day just to be sure. If they survive that, move out.
>They've won and you don't want to mess with them.


I like the Gas idea better. Just wait until the 4th of July and then
do it. (hehe).

DaveW

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Sheesh.... some people...
The gasoline idea actually will work, but ONLY if you do NOT set it
afire.
The bleach idea, from an environment and safety standpoint should be
tried instead.
The actual nest could be some distance from the hole, so saturate the
area a foot or 2 around the hole rather than just pouring it down the
whole.

<5...@pobox.com> wrote in message
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> Here's what I tried:
>
> I went out night before last and raked away the leaves, etc. on the
ground
> in the vicinity of the nest. Of course this obscured their hole as
> expected. Also as expected, their hole became very easy to find as
they
> worked on it the next day.
>
> Last night I shot about 1/2 can of Black Flag foaming hornet killer
down
> the hole.
>
> Today there seems to be as many coming in and out of the hole as ever.
I
> have killed entire nests with this technique before, though I may have
used
> a different brand.
>

Jim Yanik

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In article <djb6osc4l9ert6ndg...@4ax.com>,
mdfe...@nospam.mindspring.com says...


If you are in a drought area,this is not a good idea. It really is not a good
idea anyways. Pouring gas or oil products on the ground lets them seep into the
ground water,and is illegal too,I believe. Your best bet is to call a
professional exterminator,and is safest.

Jim Yanik,NRA member


L. Patterson

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This has never failed me: a heavy, clear bowl or food storage container (or
put a weight on top), placed over the hole. This allows light in, so they
can see to exit. However, they can't get out, and they will die soon.

> <5...@pobox.com> wrote in message
> news:cbq5oso10g6kdfift...@4ax.com...

dwarren2.no

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In article <l_Eg5.26135$7a5.7...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Alan" <alan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>5 gallons should do it. But don't try to use a lighter or match. Instead,
>stand way back and throw a road flare.
>
>Seriously though, buy 4 or 5 gallons of bleach and fill the hole with it.
>Do it again after a day just to be sure. If they survive that, move out.
>They've won and you don't want to mess with them.

Better than bleach is pool chlorine. It's much more concentrated.


_
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_______// Marion NY
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\ / dwar...@rochester.rr.com
| Rx |
/______\
(________)

Dave Green

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>Last night I shot about 1/2 can of Black Flag foaming hornet killer down
>the hole.
>
>Today there seems to be as many coming in and out of the hole as ever. I
>have killed entire nests with this technique before, though I may have used
>a different brand.

At night dump a pail of hot water, with a cupful of dishwashing detergent
added.
Don't use a flashlight, as they come to light.

Polli...@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA
The Pollination Home Page: http://pollinator.com
Disclaimer: Opinions aren't facts; learn the art of discrimination. Opinions
presented for your use and amusement; use at your own risk.

Alan

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Good point.... I didn't think of that.

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Alan

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Once you pour the bleach, you will find where their back door is (they
usually have one), fill it with bleach too.

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> Sheesh.... some people...
> The gasoline idea actually will work, but ONLY if you do NOT set it
> afire.
> The bleach idea, from an environment and safety standpoint should be
> tried instead.
> The actual nest could be some distance from the hole, so saturate the
> area a foot or 2 around the hole rather than just pouring it down the
> whole.
>

> <5...@pobox.com> wrote in message
> news:cbq5oso10g6kdfift...@4ax.com...

> > Here's what I tried:
> >
> > I went out night before last and raked away the leaves, etc. on the
> ground
> > in the vicinity of the nest. Of course this obscured their hole as
> > expected. Also as expected, their hole became very easy to find as
> they
> > worked on it the next day.
> >

> > Last night I shot about 1/2 can of Black Flag foaming hornet killer
> down
> > the hole.
> >
> > Today there seems to be as many coming in and out of the hole as ever.
> I
> > have killed entire nests with this technique before, though I may have
> used
> > a different brand.
> >

> > Questions:

RamblinOn

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Alan wrote:

> Once you pour the bleach, you will find where their back door is (they
> usually have one), fill it with bleach too.

What are the yellowjackets doing while you are pouring the bleach in? They
get pretty agressive, don't they? This sounds too much like playing with fire
to me, as does pouring gasoline into the nest. Pouring gasoline in doesn't
account for fumes drifiting into the neighbors house or some kid playing with
matches. Sounds pretty risky to me.

Pat Kiewicz

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In article <cbq5oso10g6kdfift...@4ax.com>, 5...@pobox.com says...
>

>Do you know a sure fire technique to kill the entire nest?
>

Get one of the old-fashioned 'trombone' insect dusters and a short
piece of flexible tubing to fit on the nozzle. Fill the duster with
powdered Sevin insecticide. At night, or at dawn, insert the tube
into the entrance and puff in the insecticide. The wasps will crawl
in and out through the dust and carry it back to the nest, eventually
killing all of them. It may take a couple of days.

I normally avoid using pesticides of any sort, particularly one like
Sevin that is so toxic to bees, but I make an exception for yellow
jacket nests that are in dangerous locations. We've had them nest
under the concrete front stoop, in the ground near the hose tap,
and in other spots with lots of traffic. Dusting the entrance worked
every time.
--
Pat in Plymouth MI

"The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance."
Robert R. Coveyou

"Il faut cultiver notre jardin." Voltaire


TakeThisOut

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Why not just hang a few yellowjacket traps in the area? Yellowjackets check in,
but they don't check out. When the queen realizes she's hungry she'll come out
to investigate and get trapped as well. With no queen to feed, the remaining
yellowjackets will have lost their purpose in life and commit suicide.
.
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.
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Hamm4fun

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>>
>Get one of the old-fashioned 'trombone' insect dusters and a short
>piece of flexible tubing to fit on the nozzle. Fill the duster with
>powdered Sevin insecticide. At night, or at dawn, insert the tube
>into the entrance and puff in the insecticide. The wasps will crawl
>in and out through the dust and carry it back to the nest, eventually
>killing all of them. It may take a couple of days.
>
>I normally avoid using pesticides of any sort, particularly one like
>Sevin that is so toxic to bees, but I make an exception for yellow
>jacket nests that are in dangerous locations. We've had them nest
>under the concrete front stoop, in the ground near the hose tap,
>and in other spots with lots of traffic. Dusting the entrance worked
>every time.
>--
>Pat in Plymouth MI
>
>"The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance."
>Robert R. Coveyou
>
>"Il faut cultiver notre jardin." Voltaire
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

You don't have tp blow it in, just sprinkle it around the hole. They will carry
it in.

Fuzz

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On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 06:56:58 -0400, RamblinOn
<Ramb...@mindspring.com> wrote:

My dad used his shop vac. Lay the hose next to the opening, turn it
on for a couple of hours then give it a shot of wasp killer. Worked
for him although they did nail him a couple of times.

bea...@netzero.net

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I had a problem with Ground Hornets, called my buddy who is in the
extermination business and he dusted the area with a product called
Ficam no bees or wasps have returned.

check out this web page
http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/insect-mite/abamectin-bufencarb/bendiocarb/insect-prof-bendiocarb.html
here is a quote from that page
"PRINCIPAL USES: For the control of cockroaches and crickets, carpet
beetles, earwigs, ants, silverfish, wasps, fleas, brown dog
ticks, etc., in foodstores, houses, and other buildings by
professional applicators. Also for control of pests in turf and
ornamentals"

remember, yellow jackets are Wasps..........

bea...@netzero.net

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FICAM is the answer....it is available in a dust that you sprinkle on
the area....it will kill them all worked great for me

check out
http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/insect-mite/abamectin-bufencarb/bendiocarb/insect-prof-bendiocarb.html

"PRINCIPAL USES: For the control of cockroaches and crickets, carpet
beetles, earwigs, ants, silverfish, wasps, fleas, brown dog
ticks,
etc., in foodstores, houses, and other buildings by professional
applicators. Also for control of pests in turf and ornamentals
"

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:49:57 -0700, Fuzz <now...@but.here> wrote:

Bob

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I have used the shop vac trick a couple times. Never got stung. They come
out to investigate the noise, get sucked in, and "thunk".

Bob

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nunaya

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This has worked well for me also.
Eileen

"L. Patterson" wrote:

> This has never failed me: a heavy, clear bowl or food storage container (or
> put a weight on top), placed over the hole. This allows light in, so they
> can see to exit. However, they can't get out, and they will die soon.
>

> > <5...@pobox.com> wrote in message
> > news:cbq5oso10g6kdfift...@4ax.com...

> > > Do you know a sure fire technique to kill the entire nest?
> > >

L. Patterson

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And I forgot to mention- most likely, the cost is free. Plus, you aren't
dumping various poisons on/in the ground.

"nunaya" <uep...@email.unc.edu> wrote in message
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Pete

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pour gasoline in the hole and light it and step back.

<bert_jim@.com> wrote in message news:39876515.761EE78C@.com...


> 5...@pobox.com wrote:
> >
> > Here's what I tried:
> >
>
>
>

> place a couple of bay leaves in the hole..
> --
> Note: I have no financial interest in any product and/or otherwise
> that I may recommend. -aj-

Dennis Ward

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In article <31Nh5.126725$dF.33...@news1.rdc1.il.home.com>, "Pete"
<Pe...@xyz.com> wrote:


>pour gasoline in the hole and light it and step back.
>

Uhh... shouldn't that be ..." pour gasoline in the hole, step back and then
light it?"
--
Dennis Ward <fram...@earthlink.net>


Jim Yanik

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In article <31Nh5.126725$dF.33...@news1.rdc1.il.home.com>, Pe...@xyz.com
says...

>
>pour gasoline in the hole and light it and step back.
>

DO NOT DO THIS;it causes ground water pollution,eventually contaminates the
water supply.. And it is hazardous to you,too.Do not pour ANY petroleum
products on the ground.

On a side note,in Ocala,florida,a trial is going on about a kid who died from
over 200 stings from a yellow jacket nest,his parents decided to -pray- for him
instead of immediately taking him to a doctor(religious reasons).

Jim Yanik,NRA member

RamblinOn

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Dennis Ward wrote:

> ----------
> In article <31Nh5.126725$dF.33...@news1.rdc1.il.home.com>, "Pete"
> <Pe...@xyz.com> wrote:
>

> >pour gasoline in the hole and light it and step back.
> >
>

> Uhh... shouldn't that be ..." pour gasoline in the hole, step back and then
> light it?"

No..........that would be: Walk right up to the hole so you take a good chance
at either disturbing the hive or having it collapse, which in either case you
might have a bunch of angry bugs chasing you.

Or......pour in some gasoline, let the fumes spread a little bit (close to
ground) so that when you light the fire you go up with the hive. There's gotta
be a better way.

>
> --
> Dennis Ward <fram...@earthlink.net>


eve...@pobox.com

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Here's what worked:

I sprayed down the hole and placed an almost clear translucent bucket (it's
what I had) over the hole and soaked the ground it with spray.. The next
two days there were a few y'jackets in the area of the bucket - got under
somehow I guess, spray didn't seem to hurt them.

The next night I sprayed the area with a new brand containing pyrethms
(sp???) and that was the end of them. Now the bucket's off the hole and
there are no more y'jackets in the area.

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:33:17 GMT, 5...@pobox.com wrote:
>Here's what I tried:
>

>I went out night before last and raked away the leaves, etc. on the ground
>in the vicinity of the nest. Of course this obscured their hole as
>expected. Also as expected, their hole became very easy to find as they
>worked on it the next day.
>
>Last night I shot about 1/2 can of Black Flag foaming hornet killer down
>the hole.
>
>Today there seems to be as many coming in and out of the hole as ever. I
>have killed entire nests with this technique before, though I may have used
>a different brand.
>
>Questions:
>

Young

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5...@pobox.com wrote:tire nest?

>
> Are some brands of hornet killer better than others?
>
> Thanks.

Have you considered a couple of pots of boiling water down the hole?

nancy

Dale j.

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Just sprinkle some Sevin, (which is in a power form and can be found at
any garden store or hardware) around the nest opening. The creatures
will pick the dust up on their tiny pads and wings then bring it into
the nest. They all die in a couple days. Just stay away from the nest
unless you like to be stung. Yellow jacket sting is painful, at least
to me.

Check out this link for more information:

http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/iiin/

Dale J.

By the way covering the hole up is not a good idea especally if its in
the foundation of your home. I did that once and the next day I had
the Yellow jackets inside the house, they managed to find a way in.

AReed

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<bert_jim@.com> wrote in message news:39879EC5.686C4832@.com...

> Pete wrote:
> >
> > pour gasoline in the hole and light it and step back.
> >
>
>
> that was suggested some time ago...we've not heard back from the guy.

that I may recommend. -aj-

Don't worry about lighting it. Just pour the gasoline in the hole. Please,
only do this late at night. The bees will all be sleeping (or whatever it
is bees do at night). I've done this dozens and dozens of times.


Jim Knoll

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"AReed" <ar...@zoomnet.net> writes:

If you want to have a little fun ; > setup a shop vacuum cleaner
near the hole and adjust the nozzle to precisely where the little
buggers come and go. Sit back and listen to the slurp of the vacuum
each time a bugger is snarfed into the nozzle. Let the vacuum run
for a few hours and wipe out the nest but good with little or no
environmental impact. Happy vacuuming...

Jim
jkn...@visi.com

RamblinOn

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Here is a quote from today's St. Petersburg Times, the father's statement at
his trial of what happened to the child. Not only was the two year-old child
stung more than 400 times, the parents were overwhelmed and unable to even get
the child to safety. Reason for the trial is that the parents sought no
medical treatment for the child, and the child died.
"Johnson, 38, was on the witness stand for 55 minutes. He recalled
how Harrison had wrapped his small hand around a single
finger,
dragging his father outside to play with a new archery
set. Then,
Harrison tripped over an underground nest of yellow
jackets.

Johnson told jurors that when Harrison tripped, the
frenzy caused by
hundreds of yellow jackets made it impossible for
Johnson to see his
son or his surroundings. He tried to listen for
Harrison, but could
hear nothing. So he ran.

"My thought was to get as far away from my son as I
could," said a
teary-eyed Johnson, explaining his desire to keep the
wasps away
from Harrison. "I couldn't see anything."

After he had shed most of the wasps from his body,
Johnson said he
returned to the site of the nest to find his wife
devastated and his
son blanketed with yellow jackets.

"My wife was standing there swatting the wasps away,
saying "My
God! My God' " Johnson said.

Once the yellow jackets were removed and Harrison was
bathed in
an oatmeal-based substance used to combat skin
irritations, he
seemed fine, his father said."

5...@pobox.com wrote:

> Here's what I tried:
>
> I went out night before last and raked away the leaves, etc. on the ground
> in the vicinity of the nest. Of course this obscured their hole as
> expected. Also as expected, their hole became very easy to find as they
> worked on it the next day.
>
> Last night I shot about 1/2 can of Black Flag foaming hornet killer down
> the hole.
>
> Today there seems to be as many coming in and out of the hole as ever. I
> have killed entire nests with this technique before, though I may have used
> a different brand.
>
> Questions:
>

> Do you know a sure fire technique to kill the entire nest?

Dale j.

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Get the Sevin powder and apply it at the hole in the ground liberally
and at night when they are sleeping, the next day they will contaminate
their nest and in a couple days will bee in bee heaven.

Dale J.

Jim Yanik

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In article <dogi5.9641$mt6.7...@nntp3.onemain.com>, ar...@zoomnet.net says...

>
>
><bert_jim@.com> wrote in message news:39879EC5.686C4832@.com...
>> Pete wrote:
>> >
>> > pour gasoline in the hole and light it and step back.
>> >
>>
>>
>> that was suggested some time ago...we've not heard back from the guy.
>that I may recommend. -aj-
>
>Don't worry about lighting it. Just pour the gasoline in the hole. Please,
>only do this late at night. The bees will all be sleeping (or whatever it
>is bees do at night). I've done this dozens and dozens of times.
>
>
>
I hope you do not live in Florida,because it is illegal here to pour petro
products on the ground. You are polluting your ground water.

Jim Yanik,NRA member


Tom Duller

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In article <sYgi5.3279$6E.9...@ptah.visi.com>, jkn...@visi.com (Jim Knoll) wrote:
>If you want to have a little fun ; > setup a shop vacuum cleaner
>near the hole and adjust the nozzle to precisely where the little
>buggers come and go. Sit back and listen to the slurp of the vacuum
>each time a bugger is snarfed into the nozzle. Let the vacuum run
>for a few hours and wipe out the nest but good with little or no
>environmental impact. Happy vacuuming...
>
>Jim
>jkn...@visi.com
>
Interesting, but what do you do with a shop vac full of bugs? Spray some bee
killer into the hose? That might just work...

I tried another thing a couple years ago that wasn't quite as much fun but
worked well. You take an almost empty 2 liter soda bottle, the real thing with
suger, and cut a flap in the side. You then hang the bottle sideways, with the
cap on, so the flap faces down. They go in after the sweet stuff and are too
stupid to fly back DOWN to get out. When you have enough in there you
(carefully) tape the flap shut and throw the whole mess away. I suppose you
could shoot some bug spray in first, but I never did. They die pretty quick
anyway.

I do like that shop vac thing, sit back with a cold one and a book and listen
to the "thhhip thhhip". The motor noise might be a little annoying, but on the
plus side it would drown out the wife noises.

==Tom==

Don Klipstein

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Tom Duller wrote:
> jkn...@visi.com (Jim Knoll) wrote:
>>If you want to have a little fun setup a shop vacuum cleaner
>>near the hole and adjust the nozzle to precisely where the little
>>buggers come and go. Sit back and listen to the slurp of the vacuum
>>each time a bugger is snarfed into the nozzle. <etc.>

>>
>Interesting, but what do you do with a shop vac full of bugs? Spray some bee
>killer into the hose? That might just work...

CAUTION - some bug killing sprays, especially some wasp/hornet sprays,
are flammable in mist form (a significant ingredient is a petroleum
fraction of some fuel oil sort) and most modern spray cans have propane as
a main propellant ingredient. And vacuum cleaner motors are usually of
the "series wound" type which is one of the kinds that normally has sparks
constantly present when the motor is running.

Have a video camera recording your efforts! Hope you survive and do not
spend a couple painful months in a hospital burn unit!

- Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)

Tom Duller

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In article <slrn8on7d...@manx.misty.com>, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
> CAUTION - some bug killing sprays, especially some wasp/hornet sprays,
>are flammable in mist form (a significant ingredient is a petroleum
>fraction of some fuel oil sort) and most modern spray cans have propane as
>a main propellant ingredient. And vacuum cleaner motors are usually of
>the "series wound" type which is one of the kinds that normally has sparks
>constantly present when the motor is running.
>
> Have a video camera recording your efforts! Hope you survive and do not
>spend a couple painful months in a hospital burn unit!
>
> - Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)

Very good point. I guess I'll stick with pop bottles. or maybe I'll just
continue ignoring them, they don't get in the way much.

Default User

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Aug 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/5/00
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I was thinking more of putting the shop vac suction up to the
(running) truck exhaust. Kill the wasps with carbon monoxide.

I think the video camera is a good idea. I may be able to sell
the tape to a TV show, and that will help defray the expenses
from the burn unit.

Don Klipstein wrote in message ...


> Tom Duller wrote:
>> jkn...@visi.com (Jim Knoll) wrote:
>>>If you want to have a little fun setup a shop vacuum cleaner
>>>near the hole and adjust the nozzle to precisely where the
little
>>>buggers come and go. Sit back and listen to the slurp of the
vacuum
>>>each time a bugger is snarfed into the nozzle. <etc.>
>>>
>>Interesting, but what do you do with a shop vac full of bugs?
Spray some bee
>>killer into the hose? That might just work...
>

Jute101

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Aug 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/5/00
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>Not only was the two year-old child
>stung more than 400 times, the parents were overwhelmed and unable to even
>get
>the child to safety. Reason for the trial is that the parents sought no
>medical treatment for the child, and the child died.

I remember when this happened. The reason they didn't get their son medical
treatment was because of their religious beliefs. The jury wasn't allowed to
hear this and they set that man free.

Don Klipstein

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Aug 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/6/00
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In article <8mh2rk$h14$2...@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net>, Default User wrote:
>I was thinking more of putting the shop vac suction up to the
>(running) truck exhaust. Kill the wasps with carbon monoxide.

Let me know if that works! Somehow I think insects don't have blood as
advanced and as sabotageable by CO as vertebrates do.

My favorite is to use a vacuum cleaner without flammable spray or else
to go into battle with a good spray - maybe a spray bottle of kerosene
with your trigger finger having a goodly fraction of a horsepower, or
"wasp and hornet killer" with significant petroleum content.
(Kerosene is supposedly not flammable at room temp. in non-mist form,
and diesel fuel and No. 2 fuel oil are definitely not flammable in
non-mist form at ordinary temperatures. Drop a lit match into a bucket of
any of these and see what does not happen! But drip a drop of any of
these onto an insect's head and count the few seconds until the insect
croaks!)
Just consider that fuel oil can take a few hours to maybe a day or two
to evaporate from the battlefield! Lighter fluid and gasoline evaporate
more quickly and are more effective but these are flammable. Charcoal
lighting fluid is closer to kerosene - may be slower to evaporate and of
questionable flammability.
If you use a vacuum cleaner, you will need a way to kill your prisoners.
Maybe spray in after the motor is off, or cover all exits and bake the
vacuum cleaner at 150-160 degrees F. 160 degrees F is harmless to at
least 99 percent of unpowered vacuum cleaners and 140+ is deadly to
insects at any humidity no matter how high or low. Bake for a couple
hours to be sure any bugs sheltering against heavy bulky pieces of metal
do not escape deadly heat. Allow the vacuum cleaner to cool at least half
an hour before using it again.

CAUTION - watch for responses to this post about any safer ways to do
this unless you think being a warrior is fun!

- Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)

P

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Aug 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/6/00
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Have you tried D.E. powder?? (Diatomecious earth)sp. you can get it at
a pool supply or home depot type place. It is a powder that kinda drys out
bug skin!! and they die!
Dee

Tom Duller wrote:
>
> In article <slrn8on7d...@manx.misty.com>, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:

> > CAUTION - some bug killing sprays, especially some wasp/hornet sprays,
> >are flammable in mist form (a significant ingredient is a petroleum
> >fraction of some fuel oil sort) and most modern spray cans have propane as
> >a main propellant ingredient. And vacuum cleaner motors are usually of
> >the "series wound" type which is one of the kinds that normally has sparks
> >constantly present when the motor is running.
> >
> > Have a video camera recording your efforts! Hope you survive and do not
> >spend a couple painful months in a hospital burn unit!
> >
> > - Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)
>

Richard Wiebe

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Aug 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/7/00
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I give the hole a good dose of engine starter fluid. The ether kills
the whole nest now, dissipates quickly, and leaves no poison residue.
(Also works on other stinging insects, their nests, and tent worms.)

Getting older (and wiser) - but - it beats the alternative!


wrnchbndr1

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Aug 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/7/00
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I saw the vacume cleaner thing in action on the Discovery channel. The
fella was collecting yellow jackets and selling them to a lab for venom
research -- makin a buck!!!. He used an in line filter canister where
all the bugs collected. It kinda looked like one of those oblong two
quart drink containers that you keep in the door of the refrigerator.
It can't be all that hard to make -- some epoxy glue, scissors, a drill
and your wife's new Eureka... Cut a hole in the bottom of the
container, insert about 8 inches of vacume cleaner pipe with lots of
holes in it and covered with screen. Make an adapter to attach an inlet
hose where the lid screws on. When the bugs are all in the container,
take off the inlet hose and screw on the lid. Not a complete assembly
instruction but you could work the bugs out -- work the bugs out ---
haha! The fella on TV put the bugs in the freezer to kill them. He also
wore a bee suit when he was working the hoover because a few of the
nasties always get away and I suppose they might be a little upset at
their buddies all be sucked up. It would really stink if something
unforeseen happened and they all escaped.


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Rob Demeuse

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On Sunday, July 30, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, RamblinOn wrote:
> Alan wrote:
> > Once you pour the bleach, you will find where their back door is (they
> > usually have one), fill it with bleach too.
> What are the yellowjackets doing while you are pouring the bleach in? They
> get pretty agressive, don't they? This sounds too much like playing with fire
> to me, as does pouring gasoline into the nest. Pouring gasoline in doesn't
> account for fumes drifiting into the neighbors house or some kid playing with
> matches. Sounds pretty risky to me.
> >
> >
> > --
> > -----------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > "DaveW" <moon...@remove-this.uswest.net> wrote in message
> > news:6bIg5.270$x24.1...@news.uswest.net...
> > > Sheesh.... some people...
> > > The gasoline idea actually will work, but ONLY if you do NOT set it
> > > afire.
> > > The bleach idea, from an environment and safety standpoint should be
> > > tried instead.
> > > The actual nest could be some distance from the hole, so saturate the
> > > area a foot or 2 around the hole rather than just pouring it down the
> > > whole.
> > >
> > > <5...@pobox.com> wrote in message
> > > news:cbq5oso10g6kdfift...@4ax.com...
> > > > Here's what I tried:
> > > >
> > > > I went out night before last and raked away the leaves, etc. on the
> > > ground
> > > > in the vicinity of the nest. Of course this obscured their hole as
> > > > expected. Also as expected, their hole became very easy to find as
> > > they
> > > > worked on it the next day.
> > > >
> > > > Last night I shot about 1/2 can of Black Flag foaming hornet killer
> > > down
> > > > the hole.
> > > >
> > > > Today there seems to be as many coming in and out of the hole as ever.
> > > I
> > > > have killed entire nests with this technique before, though I may have
> > > used
> > > > a different brand.
> > > >
> > > > Questions:
> > > >
> > > > Do you know a sure fire technique to kill the entire nest?
> > > >
> > > > Are some brands of hornet killer better than others?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
The fumes absolutely WILL NOT drift into the neighbors houses...WTH...are you are complete IDIOT?
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