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james

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Nov 25, 2008, 11:43:06 AM11/25/08
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I want to glue a mirror to a bathroom wall using mirror mastic like this:
http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com/pl-mirror-mastic-adhesive-used-to-mount-mirrors-p-6791.html?ref=42

While the mastic is curing, what is a good way to hold the mirror in place
that preferably does not leave any holes on the wall?

It is safe to glue mirror to a painted (latex) wall, right? The paint or the
silver back of the mirror wouldn't peel off easily I hope.

Don Phillipson

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Nov 25, 2008, 11:47:50 AM11/25/08
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"james" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:ggh9ul$m6$1...@aioe.org...

> It is safe to glue mirror to a painted (latex) wall, right? The paint or
the
> silver back of the mirror wouldn't peel off easily I hope.

This is not safe unless you are sure every one of these
can carry (for years and years) the weight of the mirror:
1. Mirror silvered rear surface
2. Adhesive (after curing, in the humid environment
of a bathroom)
3. Wall paint
4. Wall surface to which the (primer and) paint adheres.

As soon as any of these becomes incapable of supporting
the weight of the glass, you will have to clear up the mess.
But perhaps you like to bet on which will fail first?

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


charlie

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Nov 25, 2008, 11:58:26 AM11/25/08
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"james" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:ggh9ul$m6$1...@aioe.org...
>I want to glue a mirror to a bathroom wall using mirror mastic like this:
> http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com/pl-mirror-mastic-adhesive-used-to-mount-mirrors-p-6791.html?ref=42
>
> While the mastic is curing, what is a good way to hold the mirror in place
> that preferably does not leave any holes on the wall?
>
you're supposed to use a metal track or L shaped brackets to hold up the
weight.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100057586&N=10000003+503050+90006

> It is safe to glue mirror to a painted (latex) wall, right? The paint or
> the silver back of the mirror wouldn't peel off easily I hope.

you're gluing the latex paint to the backing paint. both might pull off but
it isn't usual.


Joe

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Nov 25, 2008, 1:09:16 PM11/25/08
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On Nov 25, 10:43 am, "james" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> I want to glue a mirror to a bathroom wall using mirror mastic

>snip<

This is not a wise choice.

> It is safe to glue mirror to a painted (latex) wall, right?

Wrong, unless it is a very,very small mirror.

> The paint or the
> silver back of the mirror wouldn't peel off easily I hope.

Hope won't hold but a few ounces. Use mechanical support. Call a good
glass shop for the advice and parts you need. Good luck.

Joe

Bob F

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Nov 25, 2008, 1:43:26 PM11/25/08
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"james" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:ggh9ul$m6$1...@aioe.org...

I used a metal track that supports the bottom of the mirror almosty invisably.
The track is attached to the wall studs through the drywall. Then, the mastic
holds the mirror on the track.

Get it at a glass shop.


terry

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Nov 25, 2008, 2:24:31 PM11/25/08
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On Nov 25, 3:43 pm, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "james" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in messagenews:ggh9ul$m6$1...@aioe.org...

> >I want to glue a mirror to a bathroom wall using mirror mastic like this:
> >http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com/pl-mirror-mastic-adhesive-used-t...

>
> > While the mastic is curing, what is a good way to hold the mirror in place
> > that preferably does not leave any holes on the wall?
>
> > It is safe to glue mirror to a painted (latex) wall, right? The paint or the
> > silver back of the mirror wouldn't peel off easily I hope.
>
> I used a metal track that supports the bottom of the mirror almost invisibly.

> The track is attached to the wall studs through the drywall. Then, the mastic
> holds the mirror on the track.
>
> Get it at a glass shop.

Trickier to use especially if the wall isn't exactly flat are those
clear plastic little single screw mirror support brackets.
Each has a single screw; use sufficiently long stainless screws, that
go through the plasterboard into the wall uprights to support the
weight.
Cheap, effective; don't over-tighten screws to avoid cracking the
mirror. Easier to remove mirror without damage tot the wall too!

aemeijers

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Nov 25, 2008, 6:26:44 PM11/25/08
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Speaking for the guy that will be remodeling the bathroom in 20 years,
don't use mastic. The clips or rails aren't that ugly. Or even frame it,
and hang it like a picture.

--
aem sends...

Red Green

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Nov 25, 2008, 10:24:39 PM11/25/08
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aemeijers <aeme...@att.net> wrote in
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"Here's the cheapest way sir. We put a suction cup on the mirror and cut
the dryall out around it. Remove mirror with drywall still intact. Remove
rest of drywall on entire wall. New wall installed, tape and mudd 3x,
prime, caulk and paint 2x. You keep mirror of course".

aemeijers

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Nov 25, 2008, 10:27:15 PM11/25/08
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And the drywall nails behind the mirror get pulled out of the studs how?

--
aem sends...

Red Green

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Nov 25, 2008, 10:32:08 PM11/25/08
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Red Green <postm...@127.0.0.1> wrote in
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> aemeijers <aeme...@att.net> wrote in
> news:UQ%Wk.42827$_Y1....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>> james wrote:
>>> I want to glue a mirror to a bathroom wall using mirror mastic like
>>> this:
>>> http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com/pl-mirror-mastic-adhesive-used-t

>>> o -mount-mirrors-p-6791.html?ref=42

>>>
>>>
>>> While the mastic is curing, what is a good way to hold the mirror in
>>> place that preferably does not leave any holes on the wall?
>>>
>>> It is safe to glue mirror to a painted (latex) wall, right? The
>>> paint or the silver back of the mirror wouldn't peel off easily I
>>> hope.
>>
>> Speaking for the guy that will be remodeling the bathroom in 20
>> years, don't use mastic. The clips or rails aren't that ugly. Or even
>> frame it, and hang it like a picture.
>>
>> --
>> aem sends...
>
>
>> guy that will be remodeling the bathroom in 20 years,
>
> "Here's the cheapest way sir. We put a suction cup on the mirror and
> cut the dryall out around it. Remove mirror with drywall still intact.
> Remove rest of drywall on entire wall. New wall installed, tape and
> mudd 3x, prime, caulk and paint 2x. You keep mirror of course".
>

"......and sir, that'll be $1000.

Then we can start the estimate for changing the light hanging your
mirror. Probably be around a hundred and fifty bucks.".

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