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deve...@aic.mdc.com

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Mar 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/3/97
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Hi,

I'm looking to get my curbside water shutoff valve, the one which is 40
inches below grade which connects the water main to my home supply,
replaced to fix a flow restriction problem and was wondering if anybody
has any ideas how much it costs to have a plumber come do this job?

I'm pretty sure it's this valve that's the problem since I've managed to
rule out everything else; water meter, deposits in the 3/4" type L copper
line, etc., and mysteriously enough I can see that the "handle" for what
looks to be a gate valve was sheared off probably by one of the previous
home owners in an attempt to correct the same problem.

Thanks!

Doug G.

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George F. Fontaine

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Mar 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/3/97
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deve...@aic.mdc.com wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking to get my curbside water shutoff valve, the one which is 40
> inches below grade which connects the water main to my home supply,

Suggest you check with your water works. If the valve is between the
water main and the meter, they may repair it. At least that is the
case in my town.


dslosty

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Mar 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/4/97
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deve...@aic.mdc.com wrote:

>Hi,

>I'm looking to get my curbside water shutoff valve, the one which is 40
>inches below grade which connects the water main to my home supply,

>replaced to fix a flow restriction problem and was wondering if anybody
>has any ideas how much it costs to have a plumber come do this job?

>I'm pretty sure it's this valve that's the problem since I've managed to
>rule out everything else; water meter, deposits in the 3/4" type L copper
>line, etc., and mysteriously enough I can see that the "handle" for what
>looks to be a gate valve was sheared off probably by one of the previous
>home owners in an attempt to correct the same problem.

>Thanks!

>Doug G.

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Many local water companies will check and even repair the "curb box
valve" for free. Perhaps if the valve handle is sheared off, it's
stuck in a half open position.

It's a rough job for a DIY'er - especially with 100 PSI street
pressure on the other side of that valve.

A plumber might charge $200 to $400 in this area.

Doug

Doug Olson

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Mar 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/4/97
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dslosty wrote:
>
> deve...@aic.mdc.com wrote:
>
> >Hi,
>
> >I'm looking to get my curbside water shutoff valve, the one which is 40
> >inches below grade which connects the water main to my home supply,
> >replaced to fix a flow restriction problem and was wondering if anybody
> >has any ideas how much it costs to have a plumber come do this job?
>
> >I'm pretty sure it's this valve that's the problem since I've managed to
> >rule out everything else; water meter, deposits in the 3/4" type L copper
> >line, etc., and mysteriously enough I can see that the "handle" for what
> >looks to be a gate valve was sheared off probably by one of the previous
> >home owners in an attempt to correct the same problem.
>
> >Thanks!
>
> >Doug G.

The curb valve is not generally a gate valve. It is usually a quarter
turn ball valve which is fully opened and closed by turning 90 degrees.
The top of the valve is a "key". This is about 1/4" x 1", and the valve
is operated by inserting a water key, essentially a rod, one end of
which is slotted to fit over the key, into the standpipe and slipping it
over the "key", and turning.
When the valve is fully open the "key" is aligned in the direction of
the piping. When shut off the "key" is at right angles to the piping.
Use a flashlight and you should be able to tell if it is not fully open.

The valve is not likely the source of your problem, but if you feel it
should be serviced, call your local water provider. The valve belongs to
them. To replace it the main in the street would have to be shut down.

hi...@millcomm.com

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Mar 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/6/97
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In <331CF7...@axionet.com>, Doug Olson <dol...@axionet.com> writes:
>dslosty wrote:
>>
>> deve...@aic.mdc.com wrote:
>>
>> >Hi,
>>
>> >I'm looking to get my curbside water shutoff valve, the one which is 40
>> >inches below grade which connects the water main to my home supply,
>> >replaced to fix a flow restriction problem and was wondering if anybody
>> >has any ideas how much it costs to have a plumber come do this job?
>>
>> >I'm pretty sure it's this valve that's the problem since I've managed to
>> >rule out everything else; water meter, deposits in the 3/4" type L copper
>> >line, etc., and mysteriously enough I can see that the "handle" for what
>> >looks to be a gate valve was sheared off probably by one of the previous
>> >home owners in an attempt to correct the same problem.
>>
>> >Thanks!
>>
>> >Doug G.
>
[snip]

>
>The valve is not likely the source of your problem, but if you feel it
>should be serviced, call your local water provider. The valve belongs to
>them. To replace it the main in the street would have to be shut down.

Far more likely, the copper line between the valve and the house has
gotten crimped. This is a fairly common problem.

Dan Hicks
Hey!! My advice is free -- take it for what it's worth!
http://www.millcomm.com/~danhicks

n0...@skypoint.com

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Mar 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/6/97
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In <331B8B...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>, "George F. Fontaine" <fredfo...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> writes:
>deve...@aic.mdc.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm looking to get my curbside water shutoff valve, the one which is 40
>> inches below grade which connects the water main to my home supply,
>
>Suggest you check with your water works. If the valve is between the
>water main and the meter, they may repair it. At least that is the
>case in my town.
>

FWIW, In my town the homeowner is responsibile for everything
from the street main to the home. Unlike the electric, gas and telephone
companies, who are responsible for everything up to the meter / demarc.

It sucks.

-- Dan Meyer

darkstar

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Mar 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/23/97
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n0...@skypoint.com wrote:
: FWIW, In my town the homeowner is responsibile for everything

: from the street main to the home. Unlike the electric, gas and telephone
: companies, who are responsible for everything up to the meter / demarc.

Kind of related, I saw on House Doctor they shut off the water to a house
from the street. Instead of where the water went into the house. They
used a special tool. Under what circumstances should one do this instead
of shut off their water inside? Mine (on the street) looks like first you
take a socket wrench to remove the nut, or whatever it's called, hexagonal
thing, and then see what's inside. But inside the house you just turn the
knob. When does or should one turn off the water from the street? If one
is leaving for a trip during the winter maybe? Thanks.

Gary Slusser

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Mar 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/28/97
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I believe most if not all water companies frown on anyone fooling with
THEIR valve at the street. My experience has been that they insist on one
of their employees doing the turnings. They own the meter and everything
from it to the street, even though you may be billed for certain or all
parts.

Gary

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Chas or Becky Reynolds

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Mar 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/29/97
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Gary Slusser <qwas...@ptd.net> wrote in article
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> I believe most if not all water companies frown on anyone fooling with
> THEIR valve at the street. My experience has been that they insist on
one
> of their employees doing the turnings. They own the meter and everything
> from it to the street, even though you may be billed for certain or all
> parts.
>
> Gary
>
> darkstar <dark...@sky.net> wrote in article
<5h22d0$p...@alpha.sky.net>...
> > n0...@skypoint.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > . Under what circumstances should one do this instead
> > of shut off their water inside?

> most cities dont "mind" if u mess with the cutoff @ the meter in
emergencies,but most assume that people will use the cutoff inside the
house-reason being if you break the valve at the meter (even if its not
your fault) it becomes your fault ,with major crew repair bills incoming!


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