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tim...@mailcity.com

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Feb 7, 2009, 3:30:55 PM2/7/09
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So, wife had her brother build her a closet in a room that had no
closet while he was here last weekend.

I just finished my rookie paneling and sheetrock work. Now for a
Clothes Rod that will span the length of the closet.

In my laundry room I had a six-foot clothes rod that is supported on
each end by brackets hung onto the studs.

However, my bedroom closet, which has a five-foot span, has a center
support for that clothes rod.

So, being "carpenter-challenged," what's the thought for this new
install. I can install brackets on studs on each end of the new closet
and the run will be about 6.75 feet.

Do I need a center support? Using an 1.25" dowel for the rod.

Steve Barker

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Feb 7, 2009, 3:46:27 PM2/7/09
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tim...@mailcity.com wrote:
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> Do I need a center support? Using an 1.25" dowel for the rod.

Not if you use a length of iron pipe instead of wood.

SteveBell

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Feb 7, 2009, 4:06:38 PM2/7/09
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Closet rods need support at least every four feet. Someone else
recommended a pipe. That might work.

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New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX USA

Nate Nagel

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Feb 7, 2009, 4:10:46 PM2/7/09
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yes, a black iron pipe would be the solution in this case. If you don't
like that appearance and need to have hardwood, you definitely need a
center support for anything much over 4 feet.

nate

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Phisherman

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Feb 7, 2009, 6:40:20 PM2/7/09
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It depends on the load and how much deflection you are willing to
accept. For over 4 feet I'd put a center support, preferably one
that clothes hangers can slide across.

aemeijers

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Feb 7, 2009, 6:59:49 PM2/7/09
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What they all said. When I was a kid, my father's company built custom
houses, all the way from entry level to high-end custom. All he ever
used for closet rods was galvanized thickwall water pipe. It didn't have
printing or inch markers on it back then, or maybe the final trim guy
would wipe those off with solvent or something. He also used real
brackets, not the thin metal or plastic crap like the borg currently
sells. Some of the bedroom closets had a support in the middle, but they
were 8 feet long. Typical coat closet, no problem. I was in my late
teens before I saw a wood closet rod. (and I think they were bigger than
1.25", besides)

When and if I get around to redoing the closets in this cookie cutter,
pipe is what I will use. (Along with support cleats on 3 sides of the
shelf, and shelf plywood thick enough to not sag in the middle, with a
solid front edge added to stiffen it.)

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Nate Nagel

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Feb 7, 2009, 7:17:17 PM2/7/09
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I like hardwood and have used it in all my closets, but none are wider
than about 39" or so.

One thing I find amusing is the complete unavailability of certain
products that you'd think would be readily available, requiring one to
improvise. I recall moving into an apartment once that had a wide
window (I think it was actually three windows all next to each other)
the decorating department wanted a big long curtain rod to cover the
whole width. She couldn't find a single curtain rod made that long! We
ended up using finials etc. from IKEA and using them on 1/2" copper
water pipe. A little Krylon fixed it all up.

Personally I have little use for pretty much any pre-made clothes rods.
All I ever use is hardwood dowel or pipe, with hardwood hangers so
they can be lifted out for attic access or rearranging.

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 7, 2009, 10:56:56 PM2/7/09
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<tim...@mailcity.com> wrote in message

>
> So, being "carpenter-challenged," what's the thought for this new
> install. I can install brackets on studs on each end of the new closet
> and the run will be about 6.75 feet.
>
> Do I need a center support? Using an 1.25" dowel for the rod.

Not if it is only shirts. Add a leather jacket, winter jacket, heavy slacks,
and yes, you need a support.


Bert Byfield

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Feb 7, 2009, 11:12:23 PM2/7/09
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Generally, if the rod bends down when loaded, it needs more support...


HeyBub

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Feb 7, 2009, 11:31:42 PM2/7/09
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Assume the closet is full with 10 hanging things per foot. You've got,
roughly, 60 things hanging. Assume half are one-pound shirts or skirts, and
the rest are somewhat heavier, say five pounds (leather jackets, three-piece
suits, etc.). So, you've got 180 pounds hanging on the pole.

I'd put in a center support (or use an iron pipe).


Red Green

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Feb 8, 2009, 11:52:03 PM2/8/09
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Bert Byfield <bertb...@nospam.not> wrote in
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And generally, if it doesn't bend down now when loaded, it will later. OK,
a rack of short sleeve cotton shirts may be an exception...maybe.

SteveBell

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Feb 9, 2009, 11:05:34 PM2/9/09
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My experience is that wooden rods eventually sag under their own
weight. Every builder I've ever worked with specifies additional
supports for lengths over 4 feet.

I installed rods once in a hoity-toity house that had a walk-in closet
more than 20 feet long. I put in a _lot_ of extra supports.

That was a heck of a closet. A section of one wall was reserved for a
dresser. The bathroom was bigger than my bedroom. I liked their solid
mesquite floors, but I'd pass on the stuffed buffalo head over the bar
with the light-up eyes.

Red Green

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Feb 9, 2009, 11:34:56 PM2/9/09
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"SteveBell" <res...@newsgroup.invalid> wrote in news:gmqueb$tif$1
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Either some high-falutin' doctors or a trash man, errrr... sanitation
engineer.

SteveBell

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Feb 10, 2009, 11:07:55 AM2/10/09
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>"SteveBell" <res...@newsgroup.invalid> wrote in news:gmqueb$tif$1
>@newlifehomeimprovement.motzarella.org:
>
>>
>>>Bert Byfield <bertb...@nospam.not> wrote in
>>>news:Xns9BABEC0E820A1bb...@216.196.97.131:
>>>
>>>>>>So, being "carpenter-challenged," what's the thought for
>>>>>>this new install. I can install brackets on studs on each
>>>>>>end of the new closet and the run will be about 6.75 feet.
>>>>>>Do I need a center support? Using an 1.25" dowel for the
>>>>>>rod.
>>>>
>>>>> Not if it is only shirts. Add a leather jacket, winter
>>>>>jacket, heavy slacks, and yes, you need a support.
>>>>
>>>>Generally, if the rod bends down when loaded, it needs more
>>>>support...
>>>
>>>And generally, if it doesn't bend down now when loaded, it will
>>>later. OK, a rack of short sleeve cotton shirts may be an
>>>exception...maybe.
>>
>> My experience is that wooden rods eventually sag under their own
>> weight. Every builder I've ever worked with specifies additional
>> supports for lengths over 4 feet.
>>
>> I installed rods once in a hoity-toity house that had a walk-in
>>closet more than 20 feet long. I put in a lot of extra supports.

>>
>> That was a heck of a closet. A section of one wall was reserved
>>for a dresser. The bathroom was bigger than my bedroom. I liked
>>their solid mesquite floors, but I'd pass on the stuffed buffalo
>>head over the bar with the light-up eyes.
>
>Either some high-falutin' doctors or a trash man, errrr... sanitation
>engineer.

A dentist--you got it in one. I was also "impressed" by the chandelier
made from a wagon wheel with ten Winchester rifles welded on. It hung
in the very tall and skinny entry hall, way too high to even see.

A sad case, really. His $2M house was within a week of completion when
a big storm blew the whole roof off, exposing the entire inside to rain
and ruining all the wallboard and flooring. Then the contractor, who
had no insurance, disappeared with the money. He lived in a $2K-a-month
rental for a year while everything was straightened out.

I was hired by the replacement contractor who re-did the whole inside.
It was my first big job, and I had a baptism by fire putting in
mesquite and alder trim all over the place. Heck, I spent two days just
putting knobs on more than 200 built-in cabinets.

I don't want that big a house.

Leo

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Sep 2, 2017, 1:44:14 PM9/2/17
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replying to Phisherman, Leo wrote:
having a hard time visualizing a center support that a hanger could slide
across; can you clarify?

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Oren

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Sep 2, 2017, 2:40:12 PM9/2/17
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On Sat, 02 Sep 2017 17:44:09 GMT, Leo
<caedfaa9ed1216d60ef...@example.com> wrote:

>replying to Phisherman, Leo wrote:
>having a hard time visualizing a center support that a hanger could slide
>across; can you clarify?

Phish will get back to you. He is presently on a world tour with his
500 gerbils. They wanted to travel this time.

Dick

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Sep 2, 2017, 4:47:51 PM9/2/17
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On 9/2/2017 1:44 PM, Leo wrote:
> replying to Phisherman, Leo wrote:
> having a hard time visualizing a center support that a hanger could slide
> across; can you clarify?
>

http://www.homedepot.com/p/ClosetMaid-SuperSlide-6-in-x-1-in-White-Closet-Rod-Bracket-5629/100036913

ItsJoanNotJoann

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Sep 2, 2017, 5:42:29 PM9/2/17
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HAHAHAHAAAAAAAA, you can always tell the reply comes from HomeMoanersHub
about 95% of the time when you look at the date of the original post
before even reading their reply.

ItsJoanNotJoann

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Sep 2, 2017, 5:44:57 PM9/2/17
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Yep, that the exact support that is used in a walk-in closet when
I had a ClosetMaid system installed. It works perfectly, of course,
for ease of sliding hangers back and forth.

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