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TimR
Sep 10, 2021, 5:45:59 PM9/10/21
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In a thrift shop today I found a Craftsman 3/8 inch drill driver, 15.6 V for $10 so I bought it.
I was thinking batteries are probably old, but there might be some life left, and how expensive can they be? I don't have a driver except for muscle powered, might be good to have one for the deck project.
I also didn't notice there was no charger in the box.
Well, Amazon seems to have chargers and batteries that will work but at more than $60 each. I could have bought a new tool for that.
Is there any cheaper way to make this thing workable?
Is 15.6 V just too small now? I see everything is higher.
I was thinking batteries are probably old, but there might be some life left, and how expensive can they be? I don't have a driver except for muscle powered, might be good to have one for the deck project.
I also didn't notice there was no charger in the box.
Well, Amazon seems to have chargers and batteries that will work but at more than $60 each. I could have bought a new tool for that.
Is there any cheaper way to make this thing workable?
Is 15.6 V just too small now? I see everything is higher.
johnk...@gmail.com
Sep 10, 2021, 5:56:19 PM9/10/21
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John Kuthe, EE in a former career.
Ralph Mowery
Sep 10, 2021, 6:11:16 PM9/10/21
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In article <a46ab927-f522-47e6...@googlegroups.com>,
timoth...@gmail.com says...
Often it is less expensive to just buy a new item than get replacement
parts. I have never understood the battery replacements being about the
same as a new cordless item. As that battery is probably a nicad and
not the newer types you just blew $ 10.
timoth...@gmail.com says...
parts. I have never understood the battery replacements being about the
same as a new cordless item. As that battery is probably a nicad and
not the newer types you just blew $ 10.
gfre...@aol.com
Sep 10, 2021, 6:20:07 PM9/10/21
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look at Ebay or Craigs list for a used charger. If they are NiCads
count on the ones you have being bad.
I have 2 12v Makitas I have had for a while and they are OK for a
backup when you are doing something where you need 2 drill motors to
go fast but my 18v LiON Makita kicks their ass.
I had all 3 going on this project but I used the 18v for driving the
screws.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Deck%20going%20down.jpg
Wade Garrett
Sep 10, 2021, 6:21:33 PM9/10/21
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organization, chalk it up a $10 donation to a good cause...
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Bob F
Sep 10, 2021, 6:27:22 PM9/10/21
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credit for it.
Ed Pawlowski
Sep 10, 2021, 7:12:37 PM9/10/21
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Buying the correct charger can be sill expensive. Maybe someone can
come up with a cheaper solution with something else.
Bob F
Sep 10, 2021, 8:26:25 PM9/10/21
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TimR
Sep 10, 2021, 8:57:51 PM9/10/21
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After a little research (which I could have done before an impulse buy) I see 12 V would be plenty for my home use. I have corded tools for big DIY jobs, but what I don't have is a driver, and cordless is handy for that. I just hung a gutter this week and a cordless driver would have made that much quicker.
Harbor Freight has a drill driver for $16, Black and Decker at Home Depot is $35. And then there seems to be a big jump up to the $150 range. So I guess I could spend the money buying a charger and maybe rebuilding a NiCad battery pack, but the Craftsman is probably a lower end quality tool that might not justify the effort.
micky
Sep 10, 2021, 9:51:43 PM9/10/21
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In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 10 Sep 2021 18:11:10 -0400, Ralph Mowery
IIUC most thrift shops are owned by charities, so at least your money
went to a good purpose, I think.
went to a good purpose, I think.
Clare Snyder
Sep 10, 2021, 10:02:12 PM9/10/21
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volt battery.
TimR
Sep 10, 2021, 10:17:40 PM9/10/21
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I found a Skil on sale at Amazon for $45 that looks like a good deal too, a step up from HF without going to a Makita or higher. (which I would do in a heartbeat if I thought my kids would appreciate it, but none of them are IDYers, and I have a limited number of years left.)
micky
Sep 10, 2021, 10:40:27 PM9/10/21
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In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 10 Sep 2021 19:17:37 -0700 (PDT), TimR
Mustang convetible. He also had two sons, one 16-years old, who didn't
know how to drive a stick and didn't seem to want to learn.
I do know how to drive a stick but for a car I'll drive all the time for
years, it's not worth the extra effort to me. So during the test
drive, I asked him to drive.
<timoth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Solder soime wires to it with battery clips and get a lawn tractot 12
>> volt battery.
>
>Actually that's sort of my plan. As the Nicads are trash anyway, why not empty one and run wires from an old laptop charger into it? Should give me a decent driver, as long as I don't insist on cordless.
>
>I found a Skil on sale at Amazon for $45 that looks like a good deal too, a step up from HF without going to a Makita or higher. (which I would do in a heartbeat if I thought my kids would appreciate it, but none of them are IDYers, and I have a limited number of years left.)
When I was shoppign for a car, someone had a beautiful, somewhat-tricked
>
>> Solder soime wires to it with battery clips and get a lawn tractot 12
>> volt battery.
>
>Actually that's sort of my plan. As the Nicads are trash anyway, why not empty one and run wires from an old laptop charger into it? Should give me a decent driver, as long as I don't insist on cordless.
>
>I found a Skil on sale at Amazon for $45 that looks like a good deal too, a step up from HF without going to a Makita or higher. (which I would do in a heartbeat if I thought my kids would appreciate it, but none of them are IDYers, and I have a limited number of years left.)
Mustang convetible. He also had two sons, one 16-years old, who didn't
know how to drive a stick and didn't seem to want to learn.
I do know how to drive a stick but for a car I'll drive all the time for
years, it's not worth the extra effort to me. So during the test
drive, I asked him to drive.
micky
Sep 10, 2021, 10:43:49 PM9/10/21
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In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 10 Sep 2021 17:57:48 -0700 (PDT), TimR
batteries, and that they are cheaper. I forget the details.
Google or search this group or maybe even sci.electronics.repair here or
in groups.google coom.
>
>After a little research (which I could have done before an impulse buy) I see 12 V would be plenty for my home use. I have corded tools for big DIY jobs, but what I don't have is a driver, and cordless is handy for that. I just hung a gutter this week and a cordless driver would have made that much quicker.
I have a cordless drill and something else I forget ( alittle round
saw?) that I bought at a yard said. Old batteries, voltage too low to
bother replacing, but i dont' recall the voltage.
<timoth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 7:12:37 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 5:45 PM, TimR wrote:
>> > In a thrift shop today I found a Craftsman 3/8 inch drill driver, 15.6 V for $10 so I bought it.
>> >
>> > I was thinking batteries are probably old, but there might be some life left, and how expensive can they be? I don't have a driver except for muscle powered, might be good to have one for the deck project.
>> >
>> > I also didn't notice there was no charger in the box.
>> >
>> > Well, Amazon seems to have chargers and batteries that will work but at more than $60 each. I could have bought a new tool for that.
>> >
>> > Is there any cheaper way to make this thing workable?
>> >
>> > Is 15.6 V just too small now? I see everything is higher.
>> >
>> The 15.6 is plenty of power.
>>
>> Buying the correct charger can be sill expensive. Maybe someone can
>> come up with a cheaper solution with something else.
>
>Yeah, it was too good to be true, but I really had no idea how expensive batteries and chargers were. Now I know better.
I've read about people buying just the cells used to make up the
>On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 7:12:37 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 5:45 PM, TimR wrote:
>> > In a thrift shop today I found a Craftsman 3/8 inch drill driver, 15.6 V for $10 so I bought it.
>> >
>> > I was thinking batteries are probably old, but there might be some life left, and how expensive can they be? I don't have a driver except for muscle powered, might be good to have one for the deck project.
>> >
>> > I also didn't notice there was no charger in the box.
>> >
>> > Well, Amazon seems to have chargers and batteries that will work but at more than $60 each. I could have bought a new tool for that.
>> >
>> > Is there any cheaper way to make this thing workable?
>> >
>> > Is 15.6 V just too small now? I see everything is higher.
>> >
>> The 15.6 is plenty of power.
>>
>> Buying the correct charger can be sill expensive. Maybe someone can
>> come up with a cheaper solution with something else.
>
>Yeah, it was too good to be true, but I really had no idea how expensive batteries and chargers were. Now I know better.
batteries, and that they are cheaper. I forget the details.
Google or search this group or maybe even sci.electronics.repair here or
in groups.google coom.
>
>After a little research (which I could have done before an impulse buy) I see 12 V would be plenty for my home use. I have corded tools for big DIY jobs, but what I don't have is a driver, and cordless is handy for that. I just hung a gutter this week and a cordless driver would have made that much quicker.
saw?) that I bought at a yard said. Old batteries, voltage too low to
bother replacing, but i dont' recall the voltage.
gfre...@aol.com
Sep 10, 2021, 11:30:25 PM9/10/21
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 22:43:43 -0400, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
wrote:
>In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 10 Sep 2021 17:57:48 -0700 (PDT), TimR
><timoth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 7:12:37 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 9/10/2021 5:45 PM, TimR wrote:
>>> > In a thrift shop today I found a Craftsman 3/8 inch drill driver, 15.6 V for $10 so I bought it.
>>> >
>>> > I was thinking batteries are probably old, but there might be some life left, and how expensive can they be? I don't have a driver except for muscle powered, might be good to have one for the deck project.
>>> >
>>> > I also didn't notice there was no charger in the box.
>>> >
>>> > Well, Amazon seems to have chargers and batteries that will work but at more than $60 each. I could have bought a new tool for that.
>>> >
>>> > Is there any cheaper way to make this thing workable?
>>> >
>>> > Is 15.6 V just too small now? I see everything is higher.
>>> >
>>> The 15.6 is plenty of power.
>>>
>>> Buying the correct charger can be sill expensive. Maybe someone can
>>> come up with a cheaper solution with something else.
>>
>>Yeah, it was too good to be true, but I really had no idea how expensive batteries and chargers were. Now I know better.
>
>I've read about people buying just the cells used to make up the
>batteries, and that they are cheaper. I forget the details.
If the cells are a standard size and you can solder, it is an idea.
Just be sure to get the ones with the solder tab on them.
wrote:
>In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 10 Sep 2021 17:57:48 -0700 (PDT), TimR
><timoth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 7:12:37 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 9/10/2021 5:45 PM, TimR wrote:
>>> > In a thrift shop today I found a Craftsman 3/8 inch drill driver, 15.6 V for $10 so I bought it.
>>> >
>>> > I was thinking batteries are probably old, but there might be some life left, and how expensive can they be? I don't have a driver except for muscle powered, might be good to have one for the deck project.
>>> >
>>> > I also didn't notice there was no charger in the box.
>>> >
>>> > Well, Amazon seems to have chargers and batteries that will work but at more than $60 each. I could have bought a new tool for that.
>>> >
>>> > Is there any cheaper way to make this thing workable?
>>> >
>>> > Is 15.6 V just too small now? I see everything is higher.
>>> >
>>> The 15.6 is plenty of power.
>>>
>>> Buying the correct charger can be sill expensive. Maybe someone can
>>> come up with a cheaper solution with something else.
>>
>>Yeah, it was too good to be true, but I really had no idea how expensive batteries and chargers were. Now I know better.
>
>I've read about people buying just the cells used to make up the
>batteries, and that they are cheaper. I forget the details.
Just be sure to get the ones with the solder tab on them.
TimR
Sep 11, 2021, 11:16:54 AM9/11/21
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On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 11:30:25 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> O
The end piece with the contacts that goes inside the tool handle used a cell for support, really a cheap and flimsy way to do it, and the plastic end that held the actual prongs cracked in pieces. I've saved it for a winter project, could wire an old laptop charger to it and run it corded I guess.
> O
> >I've read about people buying just the cells used to make up the
> >batteries, and that they are cheaper. I forget the details.
> If the cells are a standard size and you can solder, it is an idea.
> Just be sure to get the ones with the solder tab on them.
I took apart the battery packs to see. There was a good bit of corrosion so I'm confident the NiCads were trash.
> >batteries, and that they are cheaper. I forget the details.
> If the cells are a standard size and you can solder, it is an idea.
> Just be sure to get the ones with the solder tab on them.
The end piece with the contacts that goes inside the tool handle used a cell for support, really a cheap and flimsy way to do it, and the plastic end that held the actual prongs cracked in pieces. I've saved it for a winter project, could wire an old laptop charger to it and run it corded I guess.
Tekkie©
Sep 11, 2021, 3:47:51 PM9/11/21
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TimR
Sep 17, 2021, 9:35:40 PM9/17/21
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A little research suggests a cordless drill might need 20 A at start up or stall, but might be fine at 5 A for a small screw or drilling holes in thin wood.
Meanwhile I bought the 12 V Skil cordless drill driver that was on sale and so far I'm happy with it. So my plan is to try the thrift shop version out with the laptop charge as a project on a rainy day but not expect it to really be a useful tool.
My $10 investment led me to buying a new tool. Win.
BTW
Nov 21, 2021, 4:01:34 PM11/21/21
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Get a fifteen buck hyper touch 3.0 for sale right now at Walmart, and use that...+ To + - to minus and two cables of 16 guage wire or better,,,and done, and get 20 dollar battery charger too
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TimR
Nov 22, 2021, 2:22:35 PM11/22/21
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On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 4:01:34 PM UTC-5, BTW wrote:
> Get a fifteen buck hyper touch 3.0 for sale right now at Walmart, and use that...+ To + - to minus and two cables of 16 guage wire or better,,,and done, and get 20 dollar battery charger too
>
That would have worked, I think, and have been fun to try.
> Get a fifteen buck hyper touch 3.0 for sale right now at Walmart, and use that...+ To + - to minus and two cables of 16 guage wire or better,,,and done, and get 20 dollar battery charger too
>
But I threw the old one out, and bought a new Skil. I'm happy with it, it's been very convenient not to have to string cord for a small job. I really like Bosch tools but don't do enough projects anymore to justify.
I also have a coffee grinder style hand drill and a brace and bit, each of which has come in handy for small jobs without power, but the cordless is nice.
trader_4
Nov 23, 2021, 10:24:08 AM11/23/21
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On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 11:30:25 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
the pack.
trader_4
Nov 23, 2021, 10:26:55 AM11/23/21
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On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 10:17:40 PM UTC-4, TimR wrote:
> On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 10:02:12 PM UTC-4, Clare Snyder wrote:
> > On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 18:11:10 -0400, Ralph Mowery
> > <rmow...@charter.net> wrote:
> > >In article <a46ab927-f522-47e6...@googlegroups.com>,
> > >timoth...@gmail.com says...
> > >>
> > >> In a thrift shop today I found a Craftsman 3/8 inch drill driver, 15.6 V for $10 so I bought it.
> > >>
> > >> I was thinking batteries are probably old, but there might be some life left, and how expensive can they be? I don't have a driver except for muscle powered, might be good to have one for the deck project.
> > >>
> > >> I also didn't notice there was no charger in the box.
> > >>
> > >> Well, Amazon seems to have chargers and batteries that will work but at more than $60 each. I could have bought a new tool for that.
> > >>
> > >> Is there any cheaper way to make this thing workable?
> > >>
> > >> Is 15.6 V just too small now? I see everything is higher.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >Often it is less expensive to just buy a new item than get replacement
> > >parts. I have never understood the battery replacements being about the
> > >same as a new cordless item. As that battery is probably a nicad and
> > >not the newer types you just blew $ 10.
> > >
> > Solder soime wires to it with battery clips and get a lawn tractot 12
> > volt battery.
> Actually that's sort of my plan. As the Nicads are trash anyway, why not empty one and run wires from an old laptop charger into it?
I guess that depends on how many amps the laptop charger can supply
> On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 10:02:12 PM UTC-4, Clare Snyder wrote:
> > On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 18:11:10 -0400, Ralph Mowery
> > <rmow...@charter.net> wrote:
> > >In article <a46ab927-f522-47e6...@googlegroups.com>,
> > >timoth...@gmail.com says...
> > >>
> > >> In a thrift shop today I found a Craftsman 3/8 inch drill driver, 15.6 V for $10 so I bought it.
> > >>
> > >> I was thinking batteries are probably old, but there might be some life left, and how expensive can they be? I don't have a driver except for muscle powered, might be good to have one for the deck project.
> > >>
> > >> I also didn't notice there was no charger in the box.
> > >>
> > >> Well, Amazon seems to have chargers and batteries that will work but at more than $60 each. I could have bought a new tool for that.
> > >>
> > >> Is there any cheaper way to make this thing workable?
> > >>
> > >> Is 15.6 V just too small now? I see everything is higher.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >Often it is less expensive to just buy a new item than get replacement
> > >parts. I have never understood the battery replacements being about the
> > >same as a new cordless item. As that battery is probably a nicad and
> > >not the newer types you just blew $ 10.
> > >
> > Solder soime wires to it with battery clips and get a lawn tractot 12
> > volt battery.
> Actually that's sort of my plan. As the Nicads are trash anyway, why not empty one and run wires from an old laptop charger into it?
versus what the drill needs. Those chargers take hours to charge batteries
so it may not have the amps the drill needs., especially when fully loaded.
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