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Removing Fixed Sash of Vinyl Horizontal Sliding Window? Replacement?
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honda....@gmail.com
May 8, 2014, 5:01:37 PM5/8/14
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Can the normally fixed sash be fully removed from the frame? I have seen sites that suggest removing the vertical divider will permit sliding the normally fixed sash over for removal in the same manner as the normally sliding sash.
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What are the chances that I can use the 48 x 48 inch (nominal) old frame by Alenco with 48 x 48 inch (nominal) sashes by a different manufacturer, such as Pella or Weld-Jen?
Below are the 48 x 48 inch windows I am considering. At first glance at leasst, they look the same as my old window.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/JELD-WEN-V-2500-Series-Left-Hand-Slider-Vinyl-Windows-48-in-x-48-in-White-with-LowE-Grid-Glass-8A0600/203645502?N=5yc1vZar7zZ1z0twooZ1z0vd5f
http://www.lowes.com/pd_319657-40446-748171612126_1z0yn5t+1z0ynh9+1z0zvkh__?productId=3119837&Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNs%3Dp_product_qty_sales_dollar|1%26page%3D1&facetInfo=47.5|47.5
Thank you for any insight you can offer.
Can the normally fixed sash be fully removed from the frame? I have seen sites that suggest removing the vertical divider will permit sliding the normally fixed sash over for removal in the same manner as the normally sliding sash.
2.
What are the chances that I can use the 48 x 48 inch (nominal) old frame by Alenco with 48 x 48 inch (nominal) sashes by a different manufacturer, such as Pella or Weld-Jen?
Below are the 48 x 48 inch windows I am considering. At first glance at leasst, they look the same as my old window.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/JELD-WEN-V-2500-Series-Left-Hand-Slider-Vinyl-Windows-48-in-x-48-in-White-with-LowE-Grid-Glass-8A0600/203645502?N=5yc1vZar7zZ1z0twooZ1z0vd5f
http://www.lowes.com/pd_319657-40446-748171612126_1z0yn5t+1z0ynh9+1z0zvkh__?productId=3119837&Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNs%3Dp_product_qty_sales_dollar|1%26page%3D1&facetInfo=47.5|47.5
Thank you for any insight you can offer.
Oren
May 8, 2014, 5:33:15 PM5/8/14
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On Thu, 8 May 2014 14:01:37 -0700 (PDT), honda....@gmail.com
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That 2nd link is broken.
>Thank you for any insight you can offer.
What are you trying to do? Replace a new construction window with a
replacement window?. Yes the sash can be removed to insert the
replacement window. How you do that depends. The replacement window
will be smaller.
If your present glass is broken, a good glass and window shop can
replace the pane with a better energy efficient pane. Then put the
sashes back in.
We can't or don't know exactly what your goal is, so do some
"splanin'".
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>Thank you for any insight you can offer.
replacement window?. Yes the sash can be removed to insert the
replacement window. How you do that depends. The replacement window
will be smaller.
If your present glass is broken, a good glass and window shop can
replace the pane with a better energy efficient pane. Then put the
sashes back in.
We can't or don't know exactly what your goal is, so do some
"splanin'".
honda....@gmail.com
May 8, 2014, 5:59:32 PM5/8/14
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On Thursday, May 8, 2014 3:33:15 PM UTC-6, Oren wrote:
> We can't or don't know exactly what your goal is, so do some
> "splanin'".
I scratched the fixed sash pretty bad (deep) when I was trying to clean some paint splatter off it. Each sash has eight faux panes, meaning each double paned sash has a continuous piece of roughly 24 x 48 inch glass for each side, for ease of cleaning. Is replacing the glass on the one side possible? Is it cheap enough to justify?
> We can't or don't know exactly what your goal is, so do some
> "splanin'".
Thanks again.
Oren
May 8, 2014, 6:28:45 PM5/8/14
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On Thu, 8 May 2014 14:59:32 -0700 (PDT), honda....@gmail.com
wrote:
For a superficial scratch, I'd not worry about it. If you used a
razor blade let it be a lesson. If the glass is broken and argon has
leaked out, then yes, have the glass pane replaced. The cheapest way
is to remove the sash out and take it to a good glass shop and have it
fixed. They with fix it up, add the argon and seal it at the edges.
If you take the sash into the shop you will save money by not having
them come to you, remove it, fix it and come back on site to install
it. They will use you present sash frame.
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razor blade let it be a lesson. If the glass is broken and argon has
leaked out, then yes, have the glass pane replaced. The cheapest way
is to remove the sash out and take it to a good glass shop and have it
fixed. They with fix it up, add the argon and seal it at the edges.
If you take the sash into the shop you will save money by not having
them come to you, remove it, fix it and come back on site to install
it. They will use you present sash frame.
honda....@gmail.com
May 8, 2014, 7:25:20 PM5/8/14
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On Thursday, May 8, 2014 4:28:45 PM UTC-6, Oren wrote:
> For a superficial scratch, I'd not worry about it. If you used a
> razor blade let it be a lesson. If the glass is broken and argon has
> leaked out, then yes, have the glass pane replaced. The cheapest way
> is to remove the sash out and take it to a good glass shop and have it
> fixed. They with fix it up, add the argon and seal it at the edges.
>
> If you take the sash into the shop you will save money by not having
> them come to you, remove it, fix it and come back on site to install
> it. They will use you present sash frame.
Fantastic, thank you! And yes, I used super fine sand paper on the glass; lesson learned.
> For a superficial scratch, I'd not worry about it. If you used a
> razor blade let it be a lesson. If the glass is broken and argon has
> leaked out, then yes, have the glass pane replaced. The cheapest way
> is to remove the sash out and take it to a good glass shop and have it
> fixed. They with fix it up, add the argon and seal it at the edges.
>
> If you take the sash into the shop you will save money by not having
> them come to you, remove it, fix it and come back on site to install
> it. They will use you present sash frame.
Oren
May 8, 2014, 7:29:53 PM5/8/14
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honda....@gmail.com
Aug 17, 2014, 1:57:34 PM8/17/14
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Update:
I had the window extensively disassembled, searching for stops and retaining clips, and never found how to remove the fixed sash so I could take only the fixed sash to a window repair shop. I scoured the net for something that looked like my setup; no luck. I hired a mobile window repair company to do it for a little under $200. I did not watch the repair guy closely but my impression was he had specialized skills for cutting the glass out and re-caulking it in place.
I had the window extensively disassembled, searching for stops and retaining clips, and never found how to remove the fixed sash so I could take only the fixed sash to a window repair shop. I scoured the net for something that looked like my setup; no luck. I hired a mobile window repair company to do it for a little under $200. I did not watch the repair guy closely but my impression was he had specialized skills for cutting the glass out and re-caulking it in place.
Oren
Aug 17, 2014, 6:24:02 PM8/17/14
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 10:57:34 -0700 (PDT), honda....@gmail.com
wrote:
>Update:
>
>I had the window extensively disassembled, searching for stops and retaining clips, and never found how to remove the fixed sash so I could take only the fixed sash to a window repair shop. I scoured the net for something that looked like my setup; no luck. I hired a mobile window repair company to do it for a little under $200. I did not watch the repair guy closely but my impression was he had specialized skills for cutting the glass out and re-caulking it in place.
$200 is not a bad price. I'd say you done good, not knowing how to
remove the sash, etc.
Good for you.
wrote:
>Update:
>
>I had the window extensively disassembled, searching for stops and retaining clips, and never found how to remove the fixed sash so I could take only the fixed sash to a window repair shop. I scoured the net for something that looked like my setup; no luck. I hired a mobile window repair company to do it for a little under $200. I did not watch the repair guy closely but my impression was he had specialized skills for cutting the glass out and re-caulking it in place.
remove the sash, etc.
Good for you.
thebestf...@gmail.com
Feb 23, 2015, 2:29:17 PM2/23/15
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I believe my window is from MI industries in Wisconsin. Does anyone know how to remove fixed panel??
Oren
Feb 23, 2015, 3:02:21 PM2/23/15
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:29:13 -0800 (PST), thebestf...@gmail.com
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>I believe my window is from MI industries in Wisconsin. Does anyone know how to remove fixed panel??
Look in the upper channel for a stop block or a "L" bracket in the
lower channel. What do you see? Better if you post some photos on a
free hosting site with a URL link back here.
wrote:
>I believe my window is from MI industries in Wisconsin. Does anyone know how to remove fixed panel??
lower channel. What do you see? Better if you post some photos on a
free hosting site with a URL link back here.
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