In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 21 Nov 2021 05:16:14 -0800 (PST), trader_4
>On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 7:32:28 AM UTC-5, dean...@gmail.com
>> On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 1:30:25 AM UTC-6, micky wrote:
>> > I need a new porch light.
>> > Mine is less than 10 years old and already it doesn't go on most of the
>> > time when people walk up to it, and it's even harder to get it on by
>> > flipping the switch. 20 tries and I give up.
>> > But few** porch lights now have "frosted"** glass or the equivalent that
>> > is hard to see clearly through. **What word am I looking for?
>> > Why is that?
>> > It was easy to get 10 years ago.
>> > **And the ones that have the right glass are missing other things, like
>> > like IR sensor, daylight sensor, or they look like they belong on a
>> > chrome skyscraper, instead of my 1979 house which was the boyhood home
>> > of the first governor of Maryland.
>> > Most have clear glass, or seeded glass which is just clear glass with a
>> > few imperfections.
>> > I wanted "frosted" so people couldn't see inside and realize it's not a
>> > gas flame or a candle, or whatever they used to use. Mostly that they
>> > couldn't see that it's a light bulb.
>> Why not buy an outdoor lamp holder with the sensors? Then, you can
>> put whatever bulb you want in it as long as it's outdoor rated.
Yeah, that's what I want.
>I believe what he wants is a *lamp fixture* that has frosted panes,
>probably for the front door or similar.
> I'm surprised they aren't
Yeah, that was my real question. I don't expect you guys to go shopping
for me, and with the other features I want, I don't expect you or me to
find it. I'm just wondering why there are so few. Maybe there were
never that many but the one I have now is like that.
>I wonder where he looked?
Amazon. They have hundreds of different models, it's amazing, but maybe
they only come from a few makers.
I looked in HD too but they only had one or two models that came close
to what I wanted. (When I bought the last one, it was at HD. They had
two makers and unfortunately I didn't note who made this one so I could
avoid the brand. It's been giving me trouble for a while already, and I
think it failed much too soon.)
I'll look in Lowes.
Ace is more hardware than furnishings, and it's 20 minutes to get there,
but maybe I'll look on their webpage too. yeah, Ace has 120 things
under porch light and only 17 are light fixtures. (Most are light bulbs)
I really like Amazon. It's better than being at the store in person
because I can take my time and read the detailed description. It used
to be that mail order catalogs only said a little about what you were
going to get. You had to either already know things about what was for
sale, or just wait to see what you got. But Amazon goes into so much
detail. (One flaw is size, where sometimes they only give the
dimensions of the box it comes in.)
There are quite a few that have cylindrical glass now and I don't think
that existed for the first 250 years coach lights were made, so I don't
As an aside, I used to live next door to Swedenborg House in Chicago and
a friend rented a bedroom there. They had religious services on Sunday,
for example. Emanuel Swedenborg was a "Swedish pluralistic-Christian
theologian, scientist, philosopher and mystic" wikip says. And one of
the 30" x 30" or bigger double hung windows broke, and it was curved,
and when they replaced it, it was $150 in 1968 money. The glass company
had to try several times to bend a flat pane into a nice curve. That's
why you sometimes see windows like that replaced with two or 3 narrower
flat panes, to save money.
So I'm sure there were no full cylinders of glass 300 years ago.
Or they come in pairs.
This one is called frosted and it's frosted almost enough, but it
doesn't have the motion or daylight sensor and it's $180. I wonder it's
It's interesting that some are rated to last so many years "when used 3
hours a day", even though they have a light sensor that will cause them
to run on average 12 hours a day.
It was easier before the web. I'd go to the store and they'd have one,
maybe two that I liked at the most, and I'd make a choice and go home.