where is my Shower Shut Off Valve ?

21bla...@gmail.com

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Oct 30, 2013, 5:32:48 PM10/30/13

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my shower is getting very little, or no Hot water

i'm hoping that replacing this valve/cartridge will fix it

photo link
http://imgur.com/TU6yaiY

should the Shut Off Valve be in the wall behind behind,
or do I have to shut the water off to the whole house?
25 year old house, says Mixet on faucet plate.

my newer house [not this one] has a panel of shut off valves,
but nothing like that in this older house

thanks,
marc

dpb

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Oct 30, 2013, 5:50:15 PM10/30/13

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On 10/30/2013 4:32 PM, 21bla...@gmail.com wrote:
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> or do I have to shut the water off to the whole house?
> 25 year old house, says Mixet on faucet plate.
>
> my newer house [not this one] has a panel of shut off valves,
> but nothing like that in this older house

...

Yes, we have no bananas today... :)

Almost certainly no individual cutoff to a showerhead...at the sinks and
toilets, yes; tub/shower, "not so much".

Whole house it is...and hope it works (well enough, anyway).

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Stormin Mormon

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Oct 30, 2013, 6:27:29 PM10/30/13

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What kind of pipe? Might be pipe full of rust.

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Red Green

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Oct 30, 2013, 8:29:28 PM10/30/13

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dpb <no...@non.net> wrote in news:l4rutn$v9j$1...@speranza.aioe.org:

> On 10/30/2013 4:32 PM, 21bla...@gmail.com wrote:
> ...
>
>> or do I have to shut the water off to the whole house?
>> 25 year old house, says Mixet on faucet plate.
>>
>> my newer house [not this one] has a panel of shut off valves,
>> but nothing like that in this older house
> ...
>
> Yes, we have no bananas today... :)
>
> Almost certainly no individual cutoff to a showerhead...at the sinks and
> toilets, yes; tub/shower, "not so much".

Good time to check to make sure the main still totally shuts off...before
it absolutely needs to be shut off.

Ed Pawlowski

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Oct 30, 2013, 9:09:19 PM10/30/13

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On 10/30/2013 5:32 PM, 21bla...@gmail.com wrote:

Follow the pipes. In my house the shower does not have a shutoff, but
the bathroom does. If you don't have a shutoff valve, turn off the main
and put a couple of valves in places that would zone off parts of it.

TomR

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Oct 31, 2013, 11:38:26 AM10/31/13

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Some shower valves have built-in, or in-line, shutoff valves. If yours has
that feature, you will see them after you remove the big round chrome cover
that covers the hole in the wall.

The in-line shutoff valves look like two flathead set screws, one on each
side of the valve -- one for hot and one for cold.

Here is one model of the Mixet brand and the shutoff valve screw is shown as
part number 19 on the exploded view diagram:
http://www.plumbingsupply.com/mixet.html .

And, here is a YouTube video showing a similar setup on another brand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnPNR6douzg .

On my shower valve, the screw-type shutoffs required turning them clockwise
all the way until each valve shut off. On the video, it shows a quarter
turn of the screw. I guess different brands use different systems -- if
they have the in-line screw-type shutoff valves.

If your shower valve doesn't have these, look for a main shutoff in your
house, or get a shutoff curb key tool at Home Depot etc.,

http://www.lowes.com/Search=curb+key+tool?storeId=10151&langId=-1&catalogId=10051&N=0&newSearch=true&Ntt=curb+key+tool#!

and turn the water off at the curb.

21bla...@gmail.com

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Oct 31, 2013, 11:50:27 AM10/31/13

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thanks Tom

great stuff

Home Depot today, to get replacement cartridge

marc

Frank

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Oct 31, 2013, 12:19:57 PM10/31/13

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On 10/30/2013 5:32 PM, 21bla...@gmail.com wrote:

I had saved up small plumbing jobs and had them done by a plumber.
One was a simple Moen cartridge replacement in my shower. Also have to
shut off the house to get at it. I have done these many times but
figured a 35 year old cartridge would be tough to remove and it was.

Hardware store prices for Moen cartridges were outrageous. I found much
cheaper ones on Amazon. My plumber does not mind me supplying parts.

EXT

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Oct 31, 2013, 1:00:44 PM10/31/13

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"Frank" <frankdo...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Many shower and faucet cartridges have a lifetime warranty and the
manufacturer will mail a free cartridge if yours is covered by such a
warranty and if you can identify the make and model (which you would need
anyway to purchase a replacement cartridge). If this applies why buy
anywhere?

Ed Pawlowski

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Oct 31, 2013, 2:40:19 PM10/31/13

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On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 12:19:57 -0400, Frank
<frankdo...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>I had saved up small plumbing jobs and had them done by a plumber.
>One was a simple Moen cartridge replacement in my shower. Also have to
>shut off the house to get at it. I have done these many times but
>figured a 35 year old cartridge would be tough to remove and it was.
>
>Hardware store prices for Moen cartridges were outrageous. I found much
>cheaper ones on Amazon. My plumber does not mind me supplying parts.

Lifetime guarantee. Call them for a free one.

21bla...@gmail.com

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Oct 31, 2013, 3:58:35 PM10/31/13

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it's only 20 bucks,
and don't want to wait for replacements,
and get into any paperwork, or red tape,
returning, mailings, or whatever, etc

we'll simply be happy if it's working again

got the part from Homedepot today;
shutting water off tomorrow

thanks
marc

TomR

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Oct 31, 2013, 4:26:25 PM10/31/13

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21bla...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:38:26 AM UTC-8, TomR wrote:
>> 21bla...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> my shower is getting very little, or no Hot water
>>

>>> http://imgur.com/TU6yaiY

>> Here is one model of the Mixet brand and the shutoff valve screw is
>> shown as
>>
>> part number 19 on the exploded view diagram:
>>
>> http://www.plumbingsupply.com/mixet.html .
>> And, here is a YouTube video showing a similar setup on another
>> brand:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnPNR6douzg .

> thanks Tom

>
> Home Depot today, to get replacement cartridge

My local Home Depot has a book at the display area where the faucet/valve
repair parts and cartridges are located. I never noticed it there until my
last visit when I needed parts for a bathroom faucet.

Look for the book, and try to find the exact cartridge or part(s) that you
need listed in the book. Then look at the "part number"(?) and look for
that number on the display wall. Or, bring the old cartridge with you to
HD, Lowes, or a plumbing supply place.

Good luck.

TomR

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Oct 31, 2013, 4:30:19 PM10/31/13

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Oops, disregard my earlier post. I see you already got the part from Home
Depot.

DerbyDad03

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Oct 31, 2013, 6:54:57 PM10/31/13

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Just for future reference, in my experience there is no paperwork, red tape
or returning. The only mailing is from them to you, no questions asked
except for the model number and your address.

I've gotten cartridges for shower valves and faucets with no hassle. I
recently called for a replacement pull-out kitchen faucet head - the whole
head - when mine got clogged with something...and it's not a cheap unit. No
questions asked except for the model number and my address.

Frank

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Nov 1, 2013, 12:56:05 PM11/1/13

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True Value hardware wanted about $40 for the standard cartridge which I
needed. Did not check HD but Amazon was $10 each plus shipping. I
always keep a spare cartridge around so got 2 of them.