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T
Nov 14, 2020, 6:56:34 PM11/14/20
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A worthless count of fraud everywhere, which is why
the Democrat forced cheat-by-mail through: coup
attempt number three.
And if it does not get fixed, we no longer have a
democratic process in this country.
End justify the means? Winning more important than the
end of our democratic process? A possible future civil
war okay with you? Proud of yourselves Democrats?
https://internationalfreepress.com/2020/11/14/las-vegas-columnist-ran-a-test-and-county-officials-accepted-fake-signatures-on-8-different-ballots/
Discarded mail ballots cannot just be picked up and
voted by anyone,” a fact sheet from the secretary
of state’s office says.
“All mail ballots must be signed on the ballot
return envelope. This signature is used to
authenticate the voter and confirm that it was
actually the voter and not another person who
returned the mail ballot.”
<Editorial comment> LIAR </Editorial Comment>
I wanted to test that claim by simulating what might
happen if someone returned ballots that didn’t belong
to him or her. Plenty of people had this opportunity.
Billy Geurin, a 10-year Las Vegas resident, found
five loose ballots in his apartment mailroom. A
reader emailed me a picture of a pile of mail on
the side of the road, which included loose ballots.
There are numerous pictures of similar examples
on social media.
Nine people participated in this test. I wrote their
names in cursive using my normal handwriting. They
then copied my version of their name onto their
ballot envelope. This two-step process was necessary
to ensure no laws were broken.
On Monday, I asked Clark County Registrar Joe Gloria
about this scenario. If ballots signed by someone
else “came through, we would still have the signature
match to rely on for identity,” he said. Asked if
he was confident the safeguard would identify those
ballots, he said, “I’m confident that the process has
been working throughout this process.”
He was wrong. Eight of the nine ballots went through.
In other words, signature verification had an 89
percent failure rate in catching mismatched
signatures.
This could explain how a ballot “signed” by Rosemarie
Hartle, who died in 2017, made it through signature
verification, as reported by 8 News Now. It could
explain how Jill Stokke, a longtime Las Vegas
resident, was told the signature on her ballot
matched, even though she said she never received it.
Add to that that we have a whistle blower
Nevada whisle blower affidavit alleges disregard of mail-in signature
verification
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2098366919254/nevada-whisleblower-affidavit-alleges-disregard-of-mail-in-signature-verification
the Democrat forced cheat-by-mail through: coup
attempt number three.
And if it does not get fixed, we no longer have a
democratic process in this country.
End justify the means? Winning more important than the
end of our democratic process? A possible future civil
war okay with you? Proud of yourselves Democrats?
https://internationalfreepress.com/2020/11/14/las-vegas-columnist-ran-a-test-and-county-officials-accepted-fake-signatures-on-8-different-ballots/
Discarded mail ballots cannot just be picked up and
voted by anyone,” a fact sheet from the secretary
of state’s office says.
“All mail ballots must be signed on the ballot
return envelope. This signature is used to
authenticate the voter and confirm that it was
actually the voter and not another person who
returned the mail ballot.”
<Editorial comment> LIAR </Editorial Comment>
I wanted to test that claim by simulating what might
happen if someone returned ballots that didn’t belong
to him or her. Plenty of people had this opportunity.
Billy Geurin, a 10-year Las Vegas resident, found
five loose ballots in his apartment mailroom. A
reader emailed me a picture of a pile of mail on
the side of the road, which included loose ballots.
There are numerous pictures of similar examples
on social media.
Nine people participated in this test. I wrote their
names in cursive using my normal handwriting. They
then copied my version of their name onto their
ballot envelope. This two-step process was necessary
to ensure no laws were broken.
On Monday, I asked Clark County Registrar Joe Gloria
about this scenario. If ballots signed by someone
else “came through, we would still have the signature
match to rely on for identity,” he said. Asked if
he was confident the safeguard would identify those
ballots, he said, “I’m confident that the process has
been working throughout this process.”
He was wrong. Eight of the nine ballots went through.
In other words, signature verification had an 89
percent failure rate in catching mismatched
signatures.
This could explain how a ballot “signed” by Rosemarie
Hartle, who died in 2017, made it through signature
verification, as reported by 8 News Now. It could
explain how Jill Stokke, a longtime Las Vegas
resident, was told the signature on her ballot
matched, even though she said she never received it.
Add to that that we have a whistle blower
Nevada whisle blower affidavit alleges disregard of mail-in signature
verification
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2098366919254/nevada-whisleblower-affidavit-alleges-disregard-of-mail-in-signature-verification
angelica...@yahoo.com
Nov 15, 2020, 7:06:22 AM11/15/20
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On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 6:56:34 PM UTC-5, T wrote:
> A worthless count of fraud everywhere, which is why
> the Democrat forced cheat-by-mail through: coup
> attempt number three.
The only fraud I see here was perpetrated by the Las Vegas
> A worthless count of fraud everywhere, which is why
> the Democrat forced cheat-by-mail through: coup
> attempt number three.
columnist and his nine unnamed co-conspirators. I hope they
will be indicted.
But the competence of the election officials is definitely in question.
Cindy Hamilton
trader_4
Nov 15, 2020, 8:21:23 AM11/15/20
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On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 6:56:34 PM UTC-5, T wrote:
,mailing in a fraudulent ballot legal? Is Nevada really that screwed up? This
doesn't pass the smell test. There are plenty of people, including those in positions
of power, that are openly lying for Trump, so call me highly suspicious of this,
for the above reason. In any state I know of, this would be a CRIME.
>
> On Monday, I asked Clark County Registrar Joe Gloria
> about this scenario. If ballots signed by someone
> else “came through, we would still have the signature
> match to rely on for identity,” he said. Asked if
> he was confident the safeguard would identify those
> ballots, he said, “I’m confident that the process has
> been working throughout this process.”
>
> He was wrong. Eight of the nine ballots went through.
> In other words, signature verification had an 89
> percent failure rate in catching mismatched
> signatures.
>
> This could explain how a ballot “signed” by Rosemarie
> Hartle, who died in 2017, made it through signature
> verification, as reported by 8 News Now. It could
> explain how Jill Stokke, a longtime Las Vegas
> resident, was told the signature on her ballot
> matched, even though she said she never received it.
NV election officials say they have her ballot, the signature matches hers. They
invited her to come in, to see it, to further discuss it, she declined. Nuff said on
that one. She's so interested in a fair election that she makes the claim, but when
they say they have the ballot, come look, if it's a fraud we'll toss it and you can put
in your real vote, she refuses. Another BS claim down the tubes.
Trump and the GOP pissed and moaned about mail-in voting for months. So they
had plenty of time to question how signatures would be matched, verified, etc.
They could have gone to court if they had evidence that the process was so flawed
that the election would not be fair to get changes made. The election went forward with
the laws, rulesand procedures in place. Now, Trump having lost by a landslide, he wants
to claim fraud. That's right, a landslide. When Hillary lost to Trump with the exact same
number of electoral votes, 306 to 234, and by 3 mil votes, Trump said it was a
landslide. Trump just lost by 306 to 234 and 5.5+ mil votes. This wasn't a close
election.
trader_4
Nov 15, 2020, 8:32:58 AM11/15/20
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> > Nine people participated in this test. I wrote their
> > names in cursive using my normal handwriting. They
> > then copied my version of their name onto their
> > ballot envelope. This two-step process was necessary
> > to ensure no laws were broken.
accepts it because it says what he wants to hear. I can't image how putting
a false signature on someone else's ballot, ten of them and sending them in isn't
a crime in Nevada. If it's not, then they really are screwed up.
Reasonable people should be able to agree that matching signatures is always going
to be less than perfect. But whatever the process was that was in place by law,
rules, etc was there BEFORE the election. The election is over. To complain now,
when Trump lost by 306 to 234, 5.5+ mil votes, isn't going to change the result.
It will further divide the country, make a lot of people think our elections are rigged,
like some third world country run by a dictator. Trump's claims of fraud are further
diminished by the fact that he always claims fraud. He claimed it BEFORE the 2016
election. Then when he won with Putin's help, he switched his tune, the election
became perfectly legitimate.
rbowman
Nov 15, 2020, 1:00:09 PM11/15/20
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On 11/15/2020 05:06 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
> The only fraud I see here was perpetrated by the Las Vegas
> columnist and his nine unnamed co-conspirators. I hope they
> will be indicted.
What fraud? The proper person signed the envelope. My signature is a
> The only fraud I see here was perpetrated by the Las Vegas
> columnist and his nine unnamed co-conspirators. I hope they
> will be indicted.
scrawl which is highly variable. One year I had a ballot returned for a
redo when the signature was too far from that on file. That's how the
system should work.
That does bring up interesting questions about signatures. Looking at
the DL and credit cards in my wallet, the R is recognizable but it's
downhill from there. A trained graphologist couldn't figure out my name,
let alone some election office worker.
I find mail in convenient and am cynical enough to realize it's a
charade anyway but if you're really concerned about election security I
see no way other than in person with a photo id.
As for 'some people don't have photo ids', I feel sorry for them. I had
to show ID last week to buy a bottle of Draino at Target, so I guess
they're going to have to live with slow drains.
angelica...@yahoo.com
Nov 15, 2020, 1:20:38 PM11/15/20
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On Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 1:00:09 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
> On 11/15/2020 05:06 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > The only fraud I see here was perpetrated by the Las Vegas
> > columnist and his nine unnamed co-conspirators. I hope they
> > will be indicted.
> What fraud? The proper person signed the envelope.
I stand corrected. I read that article three times and it wasn't until
> On 11/15/2020 05:06 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > The only fraud I see here was perpetrated by the Las Vegas
> > columnist and his nine unnamed co-conspirators. I hope they
> > will be indicted.
> What fraud? The proper person signed the envelope.
the fourth go-round that I divined what had happened.
> My signature is a
> scrawl which is highly variable. One year I had a ballot returned for a
> redo when the signature was too far from that on file. That's how the
> system should work.
>
> That does bring up interesting questions about signatures. Looking at
> the DL and credit cards in my wallet, the R is recognizable but it's
> downhill from there. A trained graphologist couldn't figure out my name,
> let alone some election office worker.
>
> I find mail in convenient and am cynical enough to realize it's a
> charade anyway but if you're really concerned about election security I
> see no way other than in person with a photo id.
quite likely they could be processed by machine vision.
> As for 'some people don't have photo ids', I feel sorry for them. I had
> to show ID last week to buy a bottle of Draino at Target, so I guess
> they're going to have to live with slow drains.
picked up a ballot in person, I had to show mine. Now I just mail
in my ballot application, and they'll send the ballot only to my address
of record.
Drano? Really? Hmm. I haven't bought it in so long I wouldn't know if
that's only in your state or if it's everywhere.
Cindy Hamilton
Peeler
Nov 15, 2020, 3:21:58 PM11/15/20
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On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 11:00:15 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> As for 'some people don't have photo ids', I feel sorry for them. I had
> to show ID last week to buy a bottle of Draino
You should have drunk it. It could well be the ONLY way to stop your endless
driveling!
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> As for 'some people don't have photo ids', I feel sorry for them. I had
> to show ID last week to buy a bottle of Draino
driveling!
rbowman
Nov 15, 2020, 4:03:58 PM11/15/20
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On 11/15/2020 11:20 AM, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Drano? Really? Hmm. I haven't bought it in so long I wouldn't know if
> that's only in your state or if it's everywhere.
The cashier said it was a Montana law. I knew sodium hydroxide was
> Drano? Really? Hmm. I haven't bought it in so long I wouldn't know if
> that's only in your state or if it's everywhere.
involved in one of the meth manufacturing processes but if I were
cooking crank I wouldn't be using Drano Max Gel. The label says it
contains bleach and caustic among other things.
I've used Polar Pure for years to kill off giardia and so forth in
suspect water. It's a small glass jar with crystal iodine. You add water
to the jar, let it sit for an hour or so, and then add the required
amount of the solution. The company is more or less a mom and pop
operation that wound up in legal wrangle with the DEA:
https://www.realisticpreparedness.com/polar-pure-what-you-need-to-know/
When I was a kid I could buy crystal iodine at the drugstore down the
street. It was great for chemistry experiments that weren't included in
the Gilbert set:
https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-explosive-that-goes-off-with-the-touch-of-a-feather-473061348
I can attest to the purple cloud when my future mother-in-law came home,
slammed the door, and set off a drying batch. There was also some damage
to her preliminary drawings for a new garage.
Seems in the last 60 years the land of the free has become not so free.
Peeler
Nov 15, 2020, 4:53:32 PM11/15/20
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On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 14:04:04 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> The cashier said it was a Montana law. I knew sodium hydroxide was
> involved in one of the meth manufacturing processes but if I were
> cooking crank I wouldn't be using Drano Max Gel. The label says it
> contains bleach and caustic among other things.
Oh, my! This poor senile gossip will babble about ANYTHING! LMAO
> involved in one of the meth manufacturing processes but if I were
> cooking crank I wouldn't be using Drano Max Gel. The label says it
> contains bleach and caustic among other things.
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