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Craftsman electric chain saw seized up...what to do?

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Ben

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Mar 14, 2010, 4:50:16 PM3/14/10
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I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used
it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. I
was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped
cold. It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't.
Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't
rotate at all. It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears
and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I
thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. Does
someone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance!!

Don Phillipson

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Mar 14, 2010, 6:40:19 PM3/14/10
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"Ben" <benl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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1. Sears will charge a minimum ($50?) whether the saw
is repairable or not.
2. Mechanical problems can be repaired by fitting new
parts if available, and electrical problems can sometimes
be repaired too. The OP did not say whether the casing
can be removed from either the electric motor or the
chain drive unit.
3. Failure of the power supply cord is another possibility.

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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


willshak

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Mar 14, 2010, 6:25:54 PM3/14/10
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Ben wrote the following:
Got oil???

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Ben

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Mar 14, 2010, 6:33:56 PM3/14/10
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On Mar 14, 6:40 pm, "Don Phillipson" <e...@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote:
> "Ben" <benlo...@gmail.com> wrote in message

1. Since the saw cost only about $50 in the first place, a $50 repair
charge would be pretty steep!
2. The casing does seem to open on both sides---the motor side and the
chain/bar side. I removed the screws on the chain side, but opening
it fully would mean cutting through a sticker and I wanted to get some
advice if possible before I did that.
3. If you mean the extension cord that connects the saw to the outlet,
I tested that (by plugging in something else) and it's fine. There's
something definitely wrong with the saw since the chain sprocket won't
rotate.

-Ben
3.

Stormin Mormon

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Mar 14, 2010, 6:49:28 PM3/14/10
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My first thought is to take the bar and chain off. Plug the
saw in, hold it safely, and quick squeeze of the trigger.

If the motor and sprocket are the problem, it will be still
dead. Some cleaning and oiling the motor might help.

On the other hand, if the chain is the problem, now you'll
hear it spin. Maybe bar too tight, or chain dried out or....

But, that will help determine which component was the
problem.

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Stormin Mormon

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Mar 14, 2010, 6:50:27 PM3/14/10
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Even with the bar off?

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HeyBub

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Mar 14, 2010, 7:59:26 PM3/14/10
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Dollars to donuts it's the crappy trigger switch.

On my Ryobi, the interlock button broke which in turn prevented the switch
from working. If you disassemble the handle, I'll bet you'll find similar
cheesy parts. With some suitable head-scratching and experimenting you'll
probably be able to bypass whatever it is that's busted.


Oren

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Mar 14, 2010, 9:03:16 PM3/14/10
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On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:49:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:

>My first thought is to take the bar and chain off. Plug the
>saw in, hold it safely, and quick squeeze of the trigger.
>

Agree.

>If the motor and sprocket are the problem, it will be still
>dead. Some cleaning and oiling the motor might help.
>
>On the other hand, if the chain is the problem, now you'll
>hear it spin. Maybe bar too tight, or chain dried out or....
>

Bent / kinked chain...causing a bind.

>But, that will help determine which component was the
>problem.

The other comment to check the switch would be my second choice.

Ben

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Mar 14, 2010, 9:37:14 PM3/14/10
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> Got oil???

Yes.

Jim Yanik

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Mar 14, 2010, 9:49:57 PM3/14/10
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willshak <will...@00hvc.rr.com> wrote in
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> Ben wrote the following:
>> I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used
>> it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. I
>> was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped
>> cold. It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't.
>> Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't
>> rotate at all. It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears
>> and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I
>> thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. Does
>> someone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance!!
>>
> Got oil???
>

it's probably got sap gumming up the works.
Maybe a spray of PB Blaster penetrating oil would help.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

KC

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Mar 14, 2010, 9:55:22 PM3/14/10
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> 3.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

If it's out of warranty why are you concerned about breaking the
sticker? Open the chain side and see if something is stuck in there
or the chain has jumped partway off the sprocket. Electrical problems
like a cord or bad switch wouldn't prevent the chain & sprocket from
turning.

LSMFT

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Mar 14, 2010, 10:04:56 PM3/14/10
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willshak wrote:
> Ben wrote the following:
>> I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used
>> it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. I
>> was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped
>> cold. It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't.
>> Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't
>> rotate at all. It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears
>> and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I
>> thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. Does
>> someone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance!!
> Got oil???
>

Take it back and get a new one for free. Craftsman is guaranteed for life.

--
LSMFT

Drive slower than the posted speed.............................
And you too can become a fracking prick..............

mm

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Mar 14, 2010, 10:56:28 PM3/14/10
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On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:04:56 -0400, LSMFT <bol...@aol.com> wrote:

>willshak wrote:
>> Ben wrote the following:
>>> I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used
>>> it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. I
>>> was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped
>>> cold. It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't.
>>> Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't
>>> rotate at all. It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears
>>> and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I
>>> thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. Does
>>> someone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance!!
>> Got oil???
>>
>
>Take it back and get a new one for free. Craftsman is guaranteed for life.

That's not just hand tools?

Oren

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Mar 15, 2010, 12:14:42 AM3/15/10
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On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:56:28 -0400, mm <NOPSAM...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

>>Take it back and get a new one for free. Craftsman is guaranteed for life.
>
>That's not just hand tools?

If a water hose is marked Craftsman, I've gotten replacements before.
Not just tools.

Still I have two 50' Craftsman hoses that need to go back for my
lifetime warranty. I've done this before.

Now they want to give you the replacement that is not marked
Craftsman.

ransley

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Mar 15, 2010, 8:29:40 AM3/15/10
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guarnteed for life for a Flys life that is.

ransley

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Mar 15, 2010, 9:57:40 AM3/15/10
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Take off the chain and bar grab the motor shaft with pliers, if it
doesnt turn freely easily the bearings are shot, maybe you can get it
to turn, maybe but unlikely they can be oiled, open it up and look. If
it turns easily without the bar maybe its the bar seized to the chain
from no oil, if no power maybe the plug or switch, open and use a
meter. A set of bearings is cheap but who knows if its esy to replace
them by their thow away design.

mkir...@rochester.rr.com

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Mar 15, 2010, 1:10:04 PM3/15/10
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On Mar 14, 10:04 pm, LSMFT <bole...@aol.com> wrote:
> Take it back and get a new one for free. Craftsman is guaranteed for life.

Not on power tools.

harry

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Mar 15, 2010, 3:05:34 PM3/15/10
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If it's not a bit of crap jamming in the chain sprocket, the most
likely thing is the gearbox. On most electric saws the motor needs to
be geared down to develope enough torque.
Remove the bar and chain and see if the chain sprocket is free to
turn.
There's also a sprocket on the end of the bar that must spin freely.
The bearing on this can disintegrate, especially if there has been a
dearth of oil.

LSMFT

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Mar 16, 2010, 8:56:51 AM3/16/10
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Take it back and get a new one free. All Craftsman tools are guaranteed
for life.

--
LSFT

Drive a little slower than the posted speed.......

jamesgangnc

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Mar 16, 2010, 9:34:21 AM3/16/10
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Can't you read? That is only hand tools. Not power tools. Never has
been power tools.

hal...@aol.com

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Mar 16, 2010, 1:04:16 PM3/16/10
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>
> Can't you read? �That is only hand tools. �Not power tools. �Never has

> been power tools.-

Yes and sears no longer offers satisfaction guaranteed or your money
back.

Incidently I heard the company lost money in the christmas selling
season. They sold off the Craftsman tool brand, are now only a
licensee. Kenmore is for sale if its not already sold.

Sears is on its way out and K mart too.

I quit shopping at sears unwillingly to wait in long lines while
clerks try to huckster credit cards to every customer.

I lef my last purchase at the register and asked are you a merchant or
a bank?

Even craftman tools arent what they used to be.

ransley

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Mar 16, 2010, 6:13:26 PM3/16/10
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Thats a joke right, 30 days on some junk, but most is just decent
homeowner grade.

ransley

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Mar 16, 2010, 6:14:26 PM3/16/10
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> been power tools.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Not the tape measures any more on the tape, I was there a few weeks
ago.

aemeijers

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Mar 16, 2010, 11:33:16 PM3/16/10
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Good thing that the clerks who exchanged dead Craftsman power tools for
me a couple times, in 2 different cities, did not know that. But this
was several years ago, maybe they have tightened up their rules.

--
aem sends...

Ben

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Mar 17, 2010, 6:50:30 PM3/17/10
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OK, I opened up the saw. The clutch that's attached to the chain
brake lever seems to perform two functions---preventing the lock
button from doing it's job (pressing a switch inside) and locking up
the motor so that the sprocket doesn't turn. I was somehow able to
make it all work again for a moment, but it stopped almost
immediately. I can hear the lock button engaging the switch (a small
click that doesn't happen when the chain brake is on) but the saw
still won't start. Frustrating! I can take it apart again and look
at the clutch (there are actually two clutches according to the parts
diagram), but I'm not sure exactly what to do with them.

Thanks again,
-Ben

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harry

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Mar 18, 2010, 4:11:28 AM3/18/10
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I'm surprised there is a clutch on an electric saw. There is a
centrifugal clutch on petrol saw so that the motor can idle.
There is a "kick back" brake on all saws, the purpose is to instantly
stop the saw if it kicks back. It's linked to the reset lever on the
top side of the saw, there is a weight on this calculated to trip the
brake. (This is the thing you pull back to reset the brake.) It's
connected to a switch to simultaneously turn off the power when it
operates.
You need to test the motor and the switch operation while the chain&
bar is removed, ideally with an electrical continuity/resistance
meter.

When an electric motor (with carbon brushes) operates intermitantly,
it's sometimes the case that a single circuit in the armature is open
circuit. If the motor happens to come to rest with the brushes on this
circuit, it won't work. The clue is lots of sparking at the brushes
and a burnt segment on the commutator. Also if you move the armature
slightly it runs.
In this event you need a new armature or these days, it's likely to be
junk.
TURN THE POWER OFF BEFORE YOU MESS WITH IT :-)

homeyson

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Jul 21, 2016, 7:44:05 AM7/21/16
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replying to willshak, homeyson wrote:
I ordered a work electric chainsaw it came with oil I have not had it to run
the first time any suggestion unhappy saw owner

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