Christmas tree won't drink water
Finite Guy
thought I'd try this one. Besides, if I don't solve this problem, I
will be needing a home repair.
We cut a fress Christmas tree a couple of weeks ago at a local tree
farm; it is a Balsam Fir. Since this tree was huge, by the time I set
it up, I ended up cutting about one foot off the bottom and 6 inches
from the top. The important thing is that it was a fresh cut just
before I put up the tree and filled the tree holder pan with water.
This tree will not drink water. Is it becasue it is a fresh tree and
doesn't need it?
Any suggestions on what I should do?
Robert
James Nipper
If you did the fresh cut at the bottom just a few hours before you set it up
and now it doesn't drink water, it may be a pretty fresh tree !! I would
check it 24 hours later, to see if it has taken some of the water.
I don't know of anything else you can or need to do...............
Good Luck !!
--James--
Patscga
isn't, I don't have a clue. Sorry.
Pat
TCS
Drill a couple of 1/2" holes through the base.
Noozer
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You cut the top and bottom? Try using it like a straw! : )
I like the drill a couple holes in the base...
Is the cut end of the tree sitting against the bottom of the pan? This might
be "sealing" out the water. Drilling holes will make sure the water can get
into the tree.
Finite Guy
which may tend to seal it. I will drill the holes toninte when I go
home. Thanks for your help.
Happy Holidays.
Robert
P.S. I will be sure not to slip and drill through the bottom of the
pan.
Matt
tried that last year. I thought it was a pretty clever idea, because an
hour after I filled the stand, the pan was empty. So I refilled it with
plain water - nothing. Added some more JD - nothing. Finally tried some
Chivas - pan empty in 1/2 hour.
This cycle continued all the way up to christmas day, when my kids woke
up me and my wife, their bright faces full of excitement way before sun
up. So we go downstairs.... what do we find? Yep. The christmas tree
had taken off it's star, and put a lampshade on it's head. Also, there
was christmas tree puke (thick, yellow sap) all over the gifts.
An alchoholic christmas tree can ruin an otherwise perfect day, so - be
careful.
bumtracks
http://www.realchristmastrees.org/care.html
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rck
Bob
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You can lead a tree to water, but you can't make it drink.
:-P
Sorry I had to say that, I'm weak willed.
Merry Christmas Everyone!!!!
tom @ www.FindMeShelter.com
The_Critic
> thought I'd try this one. Besides, if I don't solve this problem, I
> will be needing a home repair.
>
> doesn't need it?
>
> Any suggestions on what I should do?
> Robert
I received the following in a gardening newsletter. jerrybaker.com Hope
it helps.
"It'll soon be that time of year again, so I'd like to take a moment to
wish you and yours a happy, healthy, and safe holiday season! I'm never
one to leave you in a lurch, so to help you out with your holiday chores,
here are a few of my favorite holiday tips and tricks.
To help your Christmas tree retain its needles all season long, you need
to select a tree that's fresh, and then consider shape, height, and price.
When selecting a tree, shake it as hard as you can, then reach into the
trunk, and remove all of the needles that have accumulated in the center
of the tree. If you do this while you're still at a tree lot, you won't
need to vacuum up all of the excess needles when the tree is in your
house!
As soon as you bring the tree home, while you still have it outdoors, cut
and discard at least one inch off of the bottom of the trunk to remove the
dried sap that'll prevent the tree from absorbing moisture. Then fill a
large bucket half full of hot water and add 2 cups of clear corn syrup, 2
tbsp. of beach, and 4 One-a-Day Vitamins+Iron. Set the trunk in the
bucket, and allow it to soak overnight. Then keep plenty of water in the
tree stand at all times.
If you're going to hang up some evergreen roping, soak it in room
temperature water for 24 hours before using it. Allow it to dry then spray
it with a commercial antidesiccant that can be found at most tree
nurseries.
Decorative centerpieces can sure brighten up a room, but before using
decorative greens, soak the stems in the corn syrup solution overnight,
then spray them with an antidesiccant. When the spray has dried, make
fresh, sharp cuts on the ends, and force them into pieces of oasis that
have been soaked in the corn syrup solution and wrapped in foil to prevent
evaporation.
Follow these simple steps, and your halls will stay decked with fresh,
fragrant greens throughout the holiday season. Then when the holidays are
over, make sure you dispose of the greens properly. Don't burn them in your
fireplace because sparks can travel up the chimney and set fire to the
roof, or burn so hot that they'll cause a fire in the flue. Remember, it's
better to be safe than sorry!"
JerryMouse
Give it a couple of weeks. If it still won't drink, throw it away.
MC
trees only used the underlying section just below the bark to supply the
tree with nutrients from the roots, the middle of the tree was not active at
all ???
Any tree experts out there ??
MC
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Michael Baugh
better exposure to that layer, and making the hole any deeper
is superfluous.
The routine of drilling the hole frequently comes up with a fresh cut with
tree stand bottom blocking flow. That's the reason for the center spike. To
hold the tree in place, and space it above the bottom of the stand bowl.
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Kahlua53
>doesn't need it?
>
The tree might just be in pain after being cut down. Try giving it two asprin
and check it in the morning.
Sorry, I couldn't help it.
Have a
Merry Christmas & Great New Year!
Remove NoSpam to reply, Thanks
TURTLE
This is Turtle.
I think Noozer got it with the flate butt of the trunk sitting flate on the
bottom of the pan. If you restrict the veines of the truck it will not take on
water.
Secondly take some of this stuff call miricle grow and mix it up strongly and
put it in the water. the tree will stay green till next Christmas.
TURTLE
Roger
"> We cut a fress Christmas tree a couple of weeks ago at a local tree
> farm; it is a Balsam Fir. Since this tree was huge, by the time I set
> it up, I ended up cutting about one foot off the bottom and 6 inches
> from the top. The important thing is that it was a fresh cut just
> before I put up the tree and filled the tree holder pan with water.
>
> This tree will not drink water. Is it becasue it is a fresh tree and
> doesn't need it?
How long was it from cutting to putting into water? Two weeks? Once a tree
is cut, it should be put into fairly deep water (I use a bucket) to start it
drinking the day it is cut. The base should be recut another 1/2 inch or so
to expose fresher wood, immediately upon getting the tree home, with a 1/4
inch bevel cut around the base along the bark, using a very sharp utility
knife, to expose phloem/xylem channels. I use a flat stone or gravel to keep
tree base off bottom of bucket. Once tree is stored in shady cool place like
this, it can be moved whenever you like into the house, even weeks later,in
a bucket style tree base with righting bolts. While outside, it should be
topped off daily. It will drink like crazy for several days, then slow down
markedly by the end of a week, but by that time the tree will be hydrated
and resist drying once it is inside.
Zemedelec
themselves. so why not a tree?
zemedelec
Noozer
Want to kill a tree? Drive a few pennies into it with a hammer.
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gary
starts to take up water. Copper pennies???
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Finite Guy wrote:
> Good Point, the bottom is pretty much touching the bottom of the pan
> which may tend to seal it. I will drill the holes toninte when I go
> home. Thanks for your help.
Just cut the bottom at a slight angle.
Zemedelec
>><BR><BR>
You must have missed something. We're talking about an already cut tree. Amd
why use pennies when you have a chain saw?
zemedelec
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>Use and IV?
>
I don't like needles, can't you just feed them salty peanuts and
popcorn? It works at bars to get the people drinking more.
later and Merry Christmas All!
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I've heard this too, it gives more surface area for contact with the
water. Makes sense, right?
later,
tom @ www.URLBee.com
Michael Baugh
Dead from the root, with the balls only a decoration.
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> Why not pray to Jeeesis to save the tree?? After all, it's a living
> thing which was cut down for the purpose of dying in your living room to
> celebrate his birth......
Michael Baugh
fill out and post the essay quiz which was presented to you.....
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> Direct hit!!! Wow I pissed you off big time with the truth, eh?!? Go off
> and lick yer wounds!!!
>
> eq
Michael Baugh
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> And also, the essay quiz was posted to the burden of Christians, who
> need to prove their faith to the rest of us. We who don't follow it's
> principles have no need or obligation to prove the tenets of
> Christianity (duh!). Unfortunately, this is too big of a concept for you
> right now. Please work a little harder on your GED and come back when
> you're ready.
Guess I can see why you're concerned about the GED.
A reminder before your next class- the word "it's" is the contraction for
"it is".
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>On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:14:14 GMT, Finite Guy
><finiteg...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>>Hi All: I couldn't find and appropriate newsgroup for this post so I
>>thought I'd try this one. Besides, if I don't solve this problem, I
>>will be needing a home repair.
>>
>>We cut a fress Christmas tree a couple of weeks ago at a local tree
>>farm; it is a Balsam Fir. Since this tree was huge, by the time I set
>>it up, I ended up cutting about one foot off the bottom and 6 inches
>>from the top. The important thing is that it was a fresh cut just
>>before I put up the tree and filled the tree holder pan with water.
>>
>>This tree will not drink water. Is it becasue it is a fresh tree and
>>doesn't need it?
>>
>>Any suggestions on what I should do?
>>
>>
>>Robert
>>
>
>
>Why not pray to Jeeesis to save the tree?? After all, it's a living
>thing which was cut down for the purpose of dying in your living room to
>celebrate his birth......
>
>eq
Maybe today, but the tree was orginally brought into the house this
time of year to welcome woodland spirts of life into your home during
the death of winter.
The christmas tree was added to the 25th of December over time and
tradition, nothing to do with the birth of Christ.
Just saying.....
tom @ www.ChopURL.com
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>On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 08:39:33 -0500, "Michael Baugh"
><baug...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>Direct hit!!! Wow I pissed you off big time with the truth, eh?!? Go off
>and lick yer wounds!!!
>
>eq
Roots, balls, and licking, is this the right newsgroup?
:-P
later,
tom @ www.MedicalJobList.com
Michael Baugh
So are you really into spanking?
I suggest soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm
It has a pretty articulate group, you would appreciate them.
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> Spank claimed again.......
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>On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:35:11 -0500, "Michael Baugh"
><baug...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry, but your posts no longer have any validity until you fully
>> fill out and post the essay quiz which was presented to you.....
>>
>
>And also, the essay quiz was posted to the burden of Christians, who
>need to prove their faith to the rest of us. We who don't follow it's
oxymoron, faith is generally a belief not based on proof, so nothing
to prove.
>principles have no need or obligation to prove the tenets of
>Christianity (duh!). Unfortunately, this is too big of a concept for you
>right now. Please work a little harder on your GED and come back when
>you're ready.
>
>eq
Merry Christmas Everyone!
later,
tom @ www.FindMeShelter.com
Michael Baugh
when I was researching the A-10
Warthog.
Right now there's a considerable discussion of Constitutional law.
You're right, you probably would be out of your league.
Stick to your GED.
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> >I suggest soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm
> >It has a pretty articulate group, you would appreciate them.
> >
>
> I'm sure you've got a lot more experience with that group than I do. But
> then again, your very first contribution to this exchange was a tired
> old sexual prowess lame....
>
> PS -- how's alt.med.fibromyalgia (snicker!) going? Its effects are sure
> showing in your responses....
>
> eq
David
Mine won't drink water either.
I looked online and it said that when a tree is cut at it's base the sap
at the base dries and hardens, preventing water and sap loss from the
tree. It also said that the sap can take up to 6 hours to harden at the
cut.
My tree was cut and i brought it home and put it in the garage on its side
over night before setting it up the next morning. I think mine is beyond
saving. This was the first time it's happened to me in maybe 10 Christmas
tree preps. Guess I should have been quicker on the drawer.
--
Robert Green
> My tree was cut and i brought it home and put it in the garage on its side
> over night before setting it up the next morning. I think mine is beyond
> saving. This was the first time it's happened to me in maybe 10 Christmas
> tree preps. Guess I should have been quicker on the drawer.
again.
--
Bobby G.
Micky
<robert_g...@yah00.com> wrote:
>"David" <caedfaa9ed1216d60e...@example.com> wrote in
>
>> My tree was cut and i brought it home and put it in the garage on its side
>> over night before setting it up the next morning. I think mine is beyond
>> saving. This was the first time it's happened to me in maybe 10 Christmas
>> tree preps. Guess I should have been quicker on the drawer.
>
>Get a saw and cut the dried off part from the bottom of the tree and start
>again.
Art Todesco
(watched the guy cut the tree I selected) and have usually taken at
least 1/2" off the bottom, at home, before putting it upright. Some
years they take lots of water and then trail off in a few weeks. This
year, the tree took 5 gallons in the 1st 9 days, the most ever. I can
maybe attribute some of it to the fact that I didn't have to take off
too much bark to make it fit the stand; just a little on the bottom. I
have a reservoir which feeds water through a 1/4" hose to the stand, so
the water level is usually kept pretty high, unless I forget to fill the
reservoir. I understand that the layer just under the bark is where most
of the nutrients are sucked in, so that part of the trunk is always wet.
Next year my tree probably won't take any water. Too much work getting
it, cleaning up after it, etc. This year my wife actually had 2 asthma
attacks, probably from molds, etc, while working on it. I should have
power washed it before before bringing it into the house. We though we'd
buy one of those Balsam Hills trees ... pricey, but they seem to look
really good.
Robert Green
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--
Bobby G.
Paint...@unlisted.moc
wrote:
when I was a kid, my father always bought a live tree, and he always cut
off at least a half inch of the trunk, right before he put it in the
stand. Then he put sugar water in the stand. I dont know if the sugar
really served a purpose or was just some "old wives tale". But the trees
held up well, and he never took them down until after New Years.
Muggles
few weeks ago. I thought I was going to bring it in and decorate it as a
table top tree, but instead I just kept it on the front porch and put
lights on it out there. Inside I took the old lights off the table top
tree from years past and put new LEDs on it and it looks like a brand
new tree, now.
--
Maggie
Art Todesco
potted tree inside for a few days ... anyway, that's what she told me.
BTW, my 9 1/2' fresh cut Frasier Fir is still drinking water, but not as
much as in the 1st 9 days. Now it's taking about a quart per day.
Paint...@unlisted.moc
wrote:
>>
>> few weeks ago. I thought I was going to bring it in and decorate it as a
>> table top tree, but instead I just kept it on the front porch and put
>> lights on it out there. Inside I took the old lights off the table top
>> tree from years past and put new LEDs on it and it looks like a brand
>> new tree, now.
>>
>Yeah, my niece does that every year, however, you can only keep the live
>potted tree inside for a few days ... anyway, that's what she told me.
>BTW, my 9 1/2' fresh cut Frasier Fir is still drinking water, but not as
>much as in the 1st 9 days. Now it's taking about a quart per day.
outside at night. You can plug it in to an outlet indoors or outdoors.
Muggles
fir come in first place.
--
Maggie
rbowman
> I guess I love fir trees. Frazier fir is my second choice, and Noble
> fir come in first place.
Tannenbaum cut.. I visit them in the woods but don't bring them home
with me.
Where do you find nobles? They're a west coast species with a fairly
limited distribution unless they're growing them in Christmas tree farms.
Muggles
actually had some potted Frazier fir trees at Lowe's garden center, so I
bought one and will see if it'll survive our weird weather.
--
Maggie
Paint...@unlisted.moc
wrote:
>I have a live potted Frazier Fir tree on my front porch that I bought a
>few weeks ago. I thought I was going to bring it in and decorate it as a
>table top tree, but instead I just kept it on the front porch and put
>lights on it out there. Inside I took the old lights off the table top
>tree from years past and put new LEDs on it and it looks like a brand
>new tree, now.
>
>--
>Maggie
trees too. I've always thought that cutting down all those young conifer
trees every year are a huge waste. They could become lumber or provide
other needs, while giving us oxygen in the process. Instead they are cut
down, put in someone's house for a few weeks, then tossed in the trash.
Many of them dont even get into someone's home. They go to a xmas tree
lot and are never sold, and just go right to the trash. That is such a
waste.
The age old arguement is that they are PLANTED FOR THAT PURPOSE. Yea,
that's true, but that uses up land that could be used to grow food or
grow trees for lumber or other uses.
The artificial trees today can be very realistic looking, and do the
same thing as a REAL tree. They are safer, and you dont have to buy a
new one each year. Not to mention less work....
While LED light sets are a lot safer than the old incan... bulbs, live
trees can still quickly start a fire if they are ignited. I cant even
imagine how or why anyone with a brain would use candles on a conifer
tree inside a house, yet that was common practice before electric xmas
lights.
And for those who like the scent of pine in your house. There are lots
of ways to achieve that without killing trees....
