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burfordTjustice

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Dec 20, 2016, 3:08:29 PM12/20/16
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A federal court on Tuesday released the search warrant documents filed by the FBI to access a laptop used by disgraced ex-Rep. Anthony Weiner and his estranged wife, Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin, revealing new details about why the bureau revisited the email case just days before the presidential election.

The FBI’s investigation found “27 email chains containing classified information” on a laptop that “was never authorized for the storage or transmission of classified or national defense information,” according to the application for the warrant, which was partially redacted.

The October re-opening of the Clinton investigation sprung from an unrelated case involving Weiner allegedly sexting with an underage girl. During the course of that inquiry, agents discovered the joint laptop and later found emails addressed to and sent from Clinton.

READ THE DOCUMENTS

U.S. District Judge P. Kevin Castel on Monday ordered the warrant and accompanying documents released, which he said were secretly filed with the court on Oct. 30.

In the aftermath of Clinton’s Election Day defeat, many of her top supporters – including husband former President Bill Clinton – have publicly blamed FBI Director James Comey for her loss.

“James Comey cost her the election,” Bill Clinton said earlier this month during remarks which were recently published in the Bedford-Pound Ridge Record Review.

Just days after President-elect Donald Trump’s victory, Hillary Clinton also took Comey to task. “Our analysis is that Comey’s letter raising doubts that were groundless, baseless, proven to be, stopped our momentum,” Clinton said during a Nov. 12 conference call with donors.

Comey was criticized not just for revisiting the case but for announcing that decision, in an Oct. 28 letter to Congress, only to confirm two days before the Nov. 8 vote that the inquiry uncovered no new evidence of wrongdoing.

The unsealed search warrant files, however, may help explain why Comey decided to revive the Clinton investigation despite the pending election.

“Out of the 27 email chains, six email chains contained information that was classified as the Secret level at the time the emails were sent, and information in four of those email chains remains classified at that level now,” the application stated.

Agents also were looking “to determine if classified information was accessed by unauthorized users or transferred to any unauthorized systems.”

The affidavit clearly states that the warrant relates to a “criminal investigation” of Clinton, terminology Clinton’s team previously had disputed.

gfre...@aol.com

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Dec 20, 2016, 3:39:07 PM12/20/16
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Hillary who?
If she stays in Chappaqua and takes care of her grand kids, I don't
care anymore. It does let Comey off the hook a little tho.
Only the Clintons can call the truth "disruptive" and "interfering"

burfordTjustice

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Dec 20, 2016, 4:17:16 PM12/20/16
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LOL!!

rbowman

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Dec 20, 2016, 9:42:51 PM12/20/16
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On 12/20/2016 01:38 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> Hillary who?
> If she stays in Chappaqua and takes care of her grand kids, I don't
> care anymore. It does let Comey off the hook a little tho.
> Only the Clintons can call the truth "disruptive" and "interfering"

I don't think that's in either Lady Macbeth's or Othello's makeup.

gfre...@aol.com

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Dec 20, 2016, 9:56:53 PM12/20/16
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 19:43:06 -0700, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:
I suppose the Clinton's foundation can soldier on but their ability to
deliver government favors has faded away so I imagine those big
multinational contributions will too.

trader_4

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Dec 21, 2016, 11:27:06 AM12/21/16
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On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 3:08:29 PM UTC-5, burfordTjustice wrote:
> A federal court on Tuesday released the search warrant documents filed by the FBI to access a laptop used by disgraced ex-Rep. Anthony Weiner and his estranged wife, Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin, revealing new details about why the bureau revisited the email case just days before the presidential election.
>
> The FBI’s investigation found “27 email chains containing classified information” on a laptop that “was never authorized for the storage or transmission of classified or national defense information,” according to the application for the warrant, which was partially redacted.


You're lying again. The FBI did not find classified info on Weiner's
laptop. What you're misquoting, the "27 email chains", etc was what
the FBI found in their year long investigation into Hillary's emails
that had been concluded. The FBI stated the "27 email chains, etc",
referring to the previous investigation,
in their application to the court for the new warrant to look at
Weiner's laptop to see what it had. After the warrant was approved,
they did look and found nothing but routine emails between Huma and
Hillary, nothing classified.

Muggles

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Dec 21, 2016, 11:52:01 AM12/21/16
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 21:56:18 -0500, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> I suppose the Clinton's foundation can soldier on but
> their ability to deliver government favors has faded
> away so I imagine those big multinational
> contributions will too.

Time for them to start living on a beer budget.

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Maggie

Roger Blake

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Dec 22, 2016, 10:23:20 AM12/22/16
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On 2016-12-22, Bud Frede <fr...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> I bet they give more to charity every year than you do.

It is now unknown for gangsters to do good things in their community,
give to charity, etc.

They are still gangsters nonetheless.

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gfre...@aol.com

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Dec 22, 2016, 10:31:19 AM12/22/16
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 15:21:49 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake
<rogb...@iname.invalid> wrote:

>On 2016-12-22, Bud Frede <fr...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>> I bet they give more to charity every year than you do.
>
>It is now unknown for gangsters to do good things in their community,
>give to charity, etc.

Yup, Al Capone gave more money to the poor in Chicago than the feds.

trader_4

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Dec 22, 2016, 10:57:11 AM12/22/16
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That big sucking sound you heard was them all leaving. Some have
already figured out where to go. Taiwan paid $140K to that great
patriot Bob Dole, to lobby Trump to change US policy on Taiwan.
It's already worked. Unprecedented, I've never seen anything so
transparent, so brazen, so in your face. And never any meddling
in US foreign policy by a president-elect, period. What Trump just
did is a felony under the Logan Act. All the Trumpets that have
railed for years about the Clintons, the foundation, etc, where are
they on what Taiwan, Dole, Trump just did?

gfre...@aol.com

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Dec 22, 2016, 11:41:18 AM12/22/16
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 07:57:07 -0800 (PST), trader_4
<tra...@optonline.net> wrote:

>What Trump just
>did is a felony under the Logan Act.
How is that? Nothing he did will "influence" anything before he is
inaugurated.
Nobody has actually been prosecuted under this toothless law anyway.
If I was going to look at a crime it would be a Hatch act violation
... on both sides.

trader_4

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Dec 22, 2016, 12:29:08 PM12/22/16
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On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 11:41:18 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 07:57:07 -0800 (PST), trader_4
> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >What Trump just
> >did is a felony under the Logan Act.
> How is that? Nothing he did will "influence" anything before he is
> inaugurated.

It already has clearly influenced things. The Chinese are mad,
they had a strong reaction to it, filed a formal
protest with the USA. Can you show us an example of that ever happening
before from either a private citizen, which Trump still is, or from
the remarks of a president-elect? Also, the Chinese most likely seized
that US drone as a way of responding.


§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.


Not only did Trump interfere, but he did it after being lobbied
by Bob Dole, who was paid $140K by Taiwan and is getting at least
$25K a month in retainer. You know damn well if
Hillary or Obama did this, the Trumpets and GOP would be up in arms.
They'd call it treason for money.

gfre...@aol.com

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Dec 22, 2016, 2:42:10 PM12/22/16
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:29:02 -0800 (PST), trader_4
<tra...@optonline.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 11:41:18 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 07:57:07 -0800 (PST), trader_4
>> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> >What Trump just
>> >did is a felony under the Logan Act.
>> How is that? Nothing he did will "influence" anything before he is
>> inaugurated.
>
>It already has clearly influenced things. The Chinese are mad,
>they had a strong reaction to it, filed a formal
>protest with the USA. Can you show us an example of that ever happening
>before from either a private citizen, which Trump still is, or from
>the remarks of a president-elect? Also, the Chinese most likely seized
>that US drone as a way of responding.
>
I think the Chinese are just assuring they get a seat at the table.
I am sure they are nervous that Trump wants to make a deal with the
russians and they want some pie too.
If anybody in the world does not know what Trump is thinking, they are
in a cave somewhere.

>
>§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
>
>Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any
officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
>

Trump is the president elect. That makes him significantly more than
just a private citizen. Even so this is a toothless law that nobody
has even been prosecuted for.
>
>Not only did Trump interfere, but he did it after being lobbied
>by Bob Dole, who was paid $140K by Taiwan and is getting at least
>$25K a month in retainer. You know damn well if
>Hillary or Obama did this, the Trumpets and GOP would be up in arms.
>They'd call it treason for money.

They already tried. Don't you remember the pay for play allegations in
"Clinton Cash"?
That is far more direct than simply lobbying.
Lobbyists take foreign money to pressure government officials all the
time. That is what they do. Is that a surprise to you?
I would suggest you wait until Trump really fucks up. It won't be
long. You are swinging at ghosts now and it makes you look silly.

Back to the top of this thread, the world's biggest fear should be
that trump works out a deal with the Israelis, the Chinese and the
Russians where they divide the globe into 4 sectors of influence and
screw the rest of the countries. UK/Euro zone better step up soon or
they might not have a seat when the music stops. Realistically it may
be 5 zones but that should scare the pee out of everyone else. He has
already said the UN and NATO are obsolete.

If Islam as a whole decides Israel is too big for it's britches,
expect Pakistan to start selling nukes to their Islamic friends.

trader_4

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Dec 22, 2016, 6:35:35 PM12/22/16
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On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 2:42:10 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:29:02 -0800 (PST), trader_4
> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 11:41:18 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >> On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 07:57:07 -0800 (PST), trader_4
> >> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >What Trump just
> >> >did is a felony under the Logan Act.
> >> How is that? Nothing he did will "influence" anything before he is
> >> inaugurated.
> >
> >It already has clearly influenced things. The Chinese are mad,
> >they had a strong reaction to it, filed a formal
> >protest with the USA. Can you show us an example of that ever happening
> >before from either a private citizen, which Trump still is, or from
> >the remarks of a president-elect? Also, the Chinese most likely seized
> >that US drone as a way of responding.
> >
> I think the Chinese are just assuring they get a seat at the table.
> I am sure they are nervous that Trump wants to make a deal with the
> russians and they want some pie too.
> If anybody in the world does not know what Trump is thinking, they are
> in a cave somewhere.
>

I don't know what Trump is thinking. How could anyone? He's flipped
on so many things. 11 mil illegals are rapists and will all be deported.
Now it's only the criminal ones will be deported, the rest are "good
people", who we must "treat fairly" and their position will remain
unchanged for the indefinite future. He was going to use tariffs to
punish certain countries who were allegedly screwing us. Now his
people are telling business leaders to get ready for a 5% tariff on
all imports. So, we're going to punish Brazil, where we have a trade
surplus? You and I know that 5% tariff will do nothing except be
a hidden tax that raises the prices of all imports for all Americans,
while putting more tax money into big govt Washington. IS that
what he ran on? Is that a GOP position? A conservative position?
He said he'd repeal Obamacare. He meets with
Obama for an hour, comes out and says that Obama convinced him to
keep parts of it. He's also saying he has consulted Obama on his
cabinet and other choices. Is that what you expected, knowing how
he apparently has hated Obama for years? So, yeah, IDK what he's
thinking and what he's saying is all over the map.



> >
> >§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
> >
> >Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any
> officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
> >
>
> Trump is the president elect. That makes him significantly more than
> just a private citizen. Even so this is a toothless law that nobody
> has even been prosecuted for.

I agree the law hasn't been applied. But Trump has violated it and
it's very troubling. It's an example of pay-to-play at it's worst
and of a man who doesn't respect the office or the constitution.


> >
> >Not only did Trump interfere, but he did it after being lobbied
> >by Bob Dole, who was paid $140K by Taiwan and is getting at least
> >$25K a month in retainer. You know damn well if
> >Hillary or Obama did this, the Trumpets and GOP would be up in arms.
> >They'd call it treason for money.
>
> They already tried. Don't you remember the pay for play allegations in
> "Clinton Cash"?

That is precisely my point. That the Trumpets bitch when Hillary
or Obama does something, but if Trump does it, then it's OK.


> That is far more direct than simply lobbying.
> Lobbyists take foreign money to pressure government officials all the
> time. That is what they do. Is that a surprise to you?

Heh, I'm not Trump who promised he'd be pure, that he's end pay-to-play.
And I'm not the Trumpets, like Mr. T here, who for over a year kept
telling us the same thing, how Trump was not like a politician, could
not be bought, how he would drain the swamp. Then we get this?



> I would suggest you wait until Trump really fucks up. It won't be
> long. You are swinging at ghosts now and it makes you look silly.
>

Maybe you think they are ghosts. I think they show that I and
others who warned about Trump are right. What exactly does it
take? A war?



> Back to the top of this thread, the world's biggest fear should be
> that trump works out a deal with the Israelis, the Chinese and the
> Russians where they divide the globe into 4 sectors of influence and
> screw the rest of the countries.

Yeah, big chance of that happening.


UK/Euro zone better step up soon or
> they might not have a seat when the music stops. Realistically it may
> be 5 zones but that should scare the pee out of everyone else. He has
> already said the UN and NATO are obsolete.
>
> If Islam as a whole decides Israel is too big for it's britches,
> expect Pakistan to start selling nukes to their Islamic friends.

No, the world will be great again. All hail Trump!

Muggles

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On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 06:41:56 -0500, Bud Frede
<fr...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> > Time for them to start living on a beer budget.


> I bet they give more to charity every year than you do.

Is it a contest?

Too whom much is given, much is required.

Charity comes in many forms.

--
Maggie

#NoDAPL

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Dec 23, 2016, 9:42:27 AM12/23/16
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On 12/22/2016 9:21 AM, Roger Blake wrote:
> On 2016-12-22, Bud Frede <fr...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>> I bet they give more to charity every year than you do.
>
> It is now unknown for gangsters to do good things in their community,
> give to charity, etc.
>
> They are still gangsters nonetheless.
>

Uh guys....Trump still hasn't shown us his financials.

Talk about a gangster. The guys credit was so bad he had to go to Russia
for funds. He doesn't want to change banks. Are you ever going to get it?


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Stormin' Norman

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Dec 23, 2016, 9:50:55 AM12/23/16
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Oh come on now, you are being just as bad as Trumpets. If everyone is
going to throw manure, then no one can be trusted or respected.

Trump isn't legally obligated to provide a financial statement until
2018.

#NoDAPL

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Dec 23, 2016, 10:57:31 AM12/23/16
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....Since it appears he will continue to run his businesses, he will
have to reveal his finances. He's not able sell his businesses off
because he's levered up to his ass. So Congress will have to see his
financials, impeach or give him a rubber stamp. It's impossible for
Trump to run his business and remain president without Congressional
approval. Even with a rubber stamp it promises to be difficult because
the president will become a target for lawsuits. It's the ol' rock and a
hard place.

Stormin' Norman

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Dec 23, 2016, 11:12:13 AM12/23/16
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 09:57:21 -0600, #NoDAPL <claim...@att.net>
wrote:
I think what you are stating as being fact is simply wishful thinking
and animus towards Trump.

The Ethics in Government Act of 1978 requires high-level federal
officials to publicly disclose their personal financial interests, but
in the case of Trump, he doesn't legally need to produce anything
until 2018.

Additionally, the President and Vice President are legally exempt from
conflict of interest laws as outlined in Title 18 Section 208 of the
U.S. code.

See for yourself:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/202

So, do you have any citations which support your assertions or, as I
suspect, are they simply your fantasies?

#NoDAPL

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Dec 23, 2016, 11:49:43 AM12/23/16
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I may not like Trump but I didn't write the emolument clauses.

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burfordTjustice

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Dec 23, 2016, 11:54:25 AM12/23/16
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 10:49:31 -0600
#NoDAPL <#N...@DAPL.com> wrote:

claim...@att.net
+
Stormin' Norman <nor...@schwarzkopf.invalid>

Make a lovely couple with

tra...@optonline.net

Tossed in a beautiful three way.

Stormin' Norman

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Dec 23, 2016, 11:55:19 AM12/23/16
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Here is the clause you referenced:

http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/1/essays/68/emoluments-clause

Please explain how you believe this relates to the assertions you made
above:

Ralph

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Dec 23, 2016, 11:55:29 AM12/23/16
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On 12/23/2016 09:42 AM, #NoDAPL wrote:
> Uh guys....Trump still hasn't shown us his financials.
>
> Talk about a gangster. The guys credit was so bad he had to go to Russia for funds. He doesn't want to change banks. Are you ever going to get it?



Uh....your boy still hasn't produced an authentic birth certificate......bwahaha!

http://www.wnd.com/2016/12/investigators-find-source-for-obamas-online-birth-certification-image/

#NoDAPL

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Dec 23, 2016, 12:29:47 PM12/23/16
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There are 2, one foreign and one domestic.

Anyway, what are you arguing, he gets to stay in office for a year?
Elizabeth Warren has already begun the investigation into Trump's
finances in relation to the emolument clause*s*.

Carter had to sell his peanut farm. Obama had to get approval for his
Nobel prize money.

The lawsuits alone will bury him. Citizens will be able to sue the
president for his business practices. What's he going to do? You tell
me. Do depos everyday? Well, he does seem to think he'll have plenty of
time on his hands.

Stormin' Norman

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Dec 23, 2016, 12:46:18 PM12/23/16
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:29:37 -0600, #NoDAPL <claim...@att.net>
I am not "arguing" anything. I am trying to understand the points you
are trying to make, so far, I am lost.

Please, in a thorough fashion, explain your points. From my
perspective, I see no legal avenue for pursuing conflict of interest
with Trump as it relates to his business dealings.

Possibly someone else understands what you are trying to say and they
can explain it to me.

#NoDAPL

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Dec 23, 2016, 12:55:25 PM12/23/16
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Do a simple google search and do it yourself.

Stormin' Norman

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Dec 23, 2016, 1:01:17 PM12/23/16
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:55:15 -0600, #NoDAPL <claim...@att.net>
I see, you want me to do a Google search to explain the points you are
attempting to convey. You will not take responsibility for expressing
yourself in a cogent fashion?

No thank you, if you can't be bothered to explain yourself, then I
cannot be bothered to make your points for you.

Unless you can articulate and explain your points, I must conclude you
have no idea what you are trying to communicate and that you just want
to vent and not have a logical discussion.

#NoDAPL

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Dec 23, 2016, 1:13:56 PM12/23/16
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I'm not trying to convey it. It is already conveyed. You are the one who
apparently likes staying uninformed so you can say I live in a fantasy.
It's there I'll help you: "emoluments" "clause" "warren" "trump"

read for god sake. why do you want ahr to reiterate?

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22emoluments%22+%22clause%22+%22warren%22+%22trump%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

FromTheRafters

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Dec 23, 2016, 1:18:54 PM12/23/16
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Ralph expressed precisely :
It doesn't matter in the least, and never has.

trader_4

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Dec 23, 2016, 1:21:05 PM12/23/16
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+1

Makes zero sense to me. Including the part about Trump having to go
to Russia for financing? Where is there any evidence, let alone
proof of that?

trader_4

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Dec 23, 2016, 1:22:23 PM12/23/16
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You really are in fantasy land when you expect other people here
to google and make your crazy case for you. YOU make the assertion,
it's up to YOU to prove it.

Stormin' Norman

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Dec 23, 2016, 1:59:01 PM12/23/16
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Don't you think it does matter, not from the perspective of Obama's
true citizenship but rather as a sanity / rationality litmus test?

Whenever I encounter anyone who raises this fallacy, I file them in my
mental bozo bin. Am I being too harsh?

gfre...@aol.com

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Dec 23, 2016, 2:49:44 PM12/23/16
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:29:37 -0600, #NoDAPL <claim...@att.net>
wrote:

>Carter had to sell his peanut farm

... but Billy did not have to sell the gas station. Trump has said he
will give the business to his son in law and daughter.
I tend to agree with you but I am not sure it is really illegal.

I have said many times, I will not be shocked if Trump has to resign
but Pence is as bad if not worse than Trump if personal liberty is an
issue.

gfre...@aol.com

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Dec 23, 2016, 2:53:53 PM12/23/16
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 17:46:19 +0000, Stormin' Norman
<nor...@schwarzkopf.invalid> wrote:

>Please, in a thorough fashion, explain your points. From my
>perspective, I see no legal avenue for pursuing conflict of interest
>with Trump as it relates to his business dealings.

One easy example. The federal government owns the Trump Hotel in DC,
it is leased from GSA. It puts Trump the president in an uneasy
position if he is also Trump the hotel operator.

Stormin' Norman

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Dec 23, 2016, 3:18:45 PM12/23/16
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The lease for that hotel specifically states the lease holder cannot
be an elected official. Trump either has to transfer / sell the
business or be in default on the lease.

This certainly isn't anything which would effect his presidency, it is
certainly nothing for which he could be impeached.

FromTheRafters

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Dec 23, 2016, 3:52:01 PM12/23/16
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Stormin' Norman has brought this to us :
Not at all, it shows a definite lack of critical thinking and a
willingness to be swayed by others who lack the same.

OTOH I don't recall seeing many calls of 'racism' when Trump was doing
the 'birther' thing to Cruz. Trump even claimed that it was clear that
someone had to be born here to be a natural born citizen and hence
qualified to run for president, and nobody in liberal media even
bothered to correct him. Probably because they kind of liked the idea
of someone else doing their dirtywork.

Anyway, Obama's Birth Certificate has even less importance now than it
did then, if that's even possible.

#NoDAPL

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Dec 23, 2016, 8:53:30 PM12/23/16
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The Constitution is the highest law in the land. The emolument clause is
in the constitution. If you want to believe otherwise. good for you. But
if YOU can prove otherwise, tell Warren and party that they are just
wasting time. I don't have to prove anything. Also, he doesn't have to
be impeached. Congress can give him a rubber stamp on the foreign
emoluments. So both of you guys need to chill.

I'm not going to reiterate crap that is on the internet. You guys need
to look yourself. That's how I found out. so poo on you.
--
https://nodaplsolidarity.org/about/

#NoDAPL

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Dec 23, 2016, 9:04:44 PM12/23/16
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You could be entirely correct.

Pence at least seems to have control of his faculties. Trump sounds and
acts like a petulant incompetent fascist.

Trump is going to be sworn in. That's about all I know for sure. I hope
no one wants me to prove that.

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gfre...@aol.com

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Dec 23, 2016, 9:45:47 PM12/23/16
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 19:53:19 -0600, #NoDAPL <#N...@DAPL.com> wrote:

>The emolument clause

If Trump turns the whole corporation over to his family and does not
take any income from Trump Inc, he is OK in that regard.
John Kerry was a senator for years while his wife was selling ketchup
around the world. There are plenty of politicians who have families
running international businesses.
I still think that violates the spirit of the law but we have said it
is within the letter of the law since George Washington (who may have
had as troubling a conflict of interest as anyone)

trader_4

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Dec 24, 2016, 11:52:04 AM12/24/16
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+1

However, I think Trump has no intention of turning over his whole business
empire to his children. Aside from being a control freak and not willing
to cash out, there would almost certainly be HUGE tax consequences to him
if he were to do so. Is he ready to pay capital gains tax on his empire,
when he doesn't have to? So, expect to see some BS where he says the
children now run it, but he still owns most of it.

trader_4

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Dec 24, 2016, 11:56:12 AM12/24/16
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On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 2:49:44 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:29:37 -0600, #NoDAPL <claim...@att.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Carter had to sell his peanut farm
>
> ... but Billy did not have to sell the gas station. Trump has said he
> will give the business to his son in law and daughter.

Perhaps you can cite for us where Trump ever said that? AFAIK, he
never did. What he said and implied was that he would turn over
*running* the empire to his children. It's hard to imagine the Donald
is going to cash out, which would present him with a huge tax
liability. Why would he pay capital gains tax on $10 bil when he
doesn't have to? Instead, he'll keep his current interest and claim
there is no conflict of interest. If anyone complains, he'll take
to twitter and say that it's all made up by the media, they are out
to get him, poor me, etc.


gfre...@aol.com

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Dec 24, 2016, 2:20:02 PM12/24/16
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I am sure there are some of the best trust lawyers in the country
working on that as we speak.
If he can't work it out, I think he would rather be "Trump" than the
president.
It would be funny if he just stopped the motorcade after the
inauguration at 12th and Pennsylvania Avenue, walked across the street
to his hotel and said "goodbye suckers". He was still the 45th
president, eligible for all the benefits that gives you in retirement
and the bragging rights of winning the election. It would save Pence
the hassle of moving twice. I wonder who Pence would nominate for VP.

#NoDAPL

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Dec 24, 2016, 2:30:43 PM12/24/16
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I wouldn't bet on it. He's going to stay President as long he and the
rest of the GOP can flaunt the law. Trump loves to have the opportunity
to say "they did worse." That's in his code of ethics and the trumpers
just love it.

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gfre...@aol.com

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Dec 24, 2016, 2:52:31 PM12/24/16
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"The rest of the GOP" is not in love with Trump, they would rather
have Pence and they might come down on him if the democrats push an
ethics violation. The next 6 months will tell the tale.
Trader has a point, if his trust lawyers can't come up with a way to
convey these holdings to Ivanka in a tax sheltered way, Trump may not
be able to afford to be president. One thing is true,. We will find
out that "$10 Billion" will turn out to be more like three when they
look at hard assets.
Once you get a good look at Pence, I bet you lefties will long to get
Trump back. Trump is a lot more likely to support gay rights, choice
and not be such a fanatic about restoring things like prayer in
school.
BTW, no matter what, you can give up on stopping your pipeline in
about 3 1/2 weeks. Trump might send federal troops to rout the indians
and movie stars in a Wounded Knee type operation but it will get going
again.

Vic Smith

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Dec 24, 2016, 11:51:51 PM12/24/16
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 14:51:38 -0500, gfre...@aol.com wrote:


>Once you get a good look at Pence, I bet you lefties will long to get
>Trump back. Trump is a lot more likely to support gay rights, choice
>and not be such a fanatic about restoring things like prayer in
>school.

I don't think the "lefties" are worried about gay rights, choice, and
restoring prayer in school. They'd welcome the fight against any
attempts to turn back the clock. Remember, anybody stupid enough to
vote Trump/Pence will turn on a dime.

Uncle Monster

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Dec 25, 2016, 3:12:08 AM12/25/16
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The Progressive Liberal Leftist Commiecrat Freak mantra:"Those who disagree with us are stupid." Poor little snowflakes, emphasis on "flake". ヽ(•‿•)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Deplorable Monster

gfre...@aol.com

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Dec 25, 2016, 7:41:38 AM12/25/16
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Those seem to be the only things people on the left base their votes
on these days. Nobody gives a shit about foreign wars, the debt and
restoring meaningful employment for the middle class.

trader_4

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Dec 25, 2016, 2:32:48 PM12/25/16
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There's no requirement that Trump has to put his businesses in a trust or sell them. There may be an issue with specific cases, the the DC hotel, or deals with foreign govts, where he needs to divest.

burfordTjustice

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Dec 25, 2016, 2:35:29 PM12/25/16
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 14:51:38 -0500
gfre...@aol.com wrote:

> From:

gfre...@aol.com

What ever it is you smoke you need to
stay in the ghetto with it.
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