Something leaving small animal parts at my door!
Val Gal
animals at my front door. The items range from liver, kidneys,
intestines, and once a small paw like a squirrel's, but very little/no
blood. I dispose of the items and hose the area down (I removed the
front door mat after the first time). I've also tried spraying the
area - one time with citrus air freshener and one time with lysol
spray (got a "present" the next morning). My front door is sheltered
and a little secluded. What might be doing this and how do I
discourage it?
dpb
Probably the best candidate is a neighborhood cat...
--
RicodJour
You have a cat admirer that is leaving you presents to get into your
good graces.
Spray or sprinkle something that cats find malodorous around your
front door.
R
dpb
Like tuna-can drippings??? :)
--
harry
Cat. Diesel oil. Mousetrap. Small boy with iargun
Higgs Boson
Mothballs in netting so they can't be dispersed.
h
"RicodJour" <rico...@worldemail.com> wrote in message
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On May 23, 10:40 am, Val Gal <valencia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Five times in the past two weeks, "something" has left parts of small
> animals at my front door. The items range from liver, kidneys,
> intestines, and once a small paw like a squirrel's, but very little/no
> blood. I dispose of the items and hose the area down (I removed the
> front door mat after the first time). I've also tried spraying the
> area - one time with citrus air freshener and one time with lysol
> spray (got a "present" the next morning). My front door is sheltered
> and a little secluded. What might be doing this and how do I
> discourage it?
What's wrong with you? You have a cat leaving you presents. Why would you
want to discourage that behavior? The cat is killing off garden pests. I
say, leave out some food and you'll have a new pet.
aemeijers
Likely a formerly-domestic stray cat looking for a new home, or a dumb
neighbor cat mistaking your door for theirs.
I had that problem a LOT in the apartments with hundreds of doors that
all look alike- open the door to check the mail, and a cat that was
waiting there strolled in like he owned the place. (Thankfully no loose
parts- I gross out easily) Cats are the only common suburban animals I
know of that leave presents on doorsteps. It is the old hunter
hardwiring, trying to show they are good providers and deserving of a
place in the group.
--
aem sends...
Val Gal
the acquaintance of any in the neighborhood. There are hawks, skunks,
raccoons, and such around, so something like that is probably more
likely. I think I'll try the mothball suggestion. Do hawks have a
sense of smell?
EXT
"Val Gal" <valen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It is not a raccoon, the only gifts they ever leave you is a pile of feces
after they take a dump on your doorstep.
Smitty Two
<d583e1ef-b4e1-4ddd...@k25g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
Val Gal <valen...@gmail.com> wrote:
BZZZT. It IS a cat, knothead. Wild animals such as those you mention, do
NOT behave that way.
Val Gal
the greater collective knowledge/experience. Thanks.
dpb
> Leaving only the guts didn't appear to be cat like to me, but I bow to
> the greater collective knowledge/experience. Thanks.
Doesn't get any more cat-like than prototypical cat behavior...
--
Evan
How long have you lived at your house ?
If you moved in recently the cat that is leaving the presents may
have belonged to the previous owners...
~~ Evan
harry
Few birds have a sense of smell. Exception eg Kiwi.
It's not hawks. The mousetrap fixes them good. Nothing else is
likely to work. There are commercial preparations but they are
ineffective in my experience. Also electronic noise generators. Again
I have heard poor reports.
harry
> "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote in message
F*** cats and their owners. They make a hell of a mess in the garden
and there is no more destructive thing to the environment than cats.
h
"Evan" <evan.ne...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>>How long have you lived at your house ?
>>If you moved in recently the cat that is leaving the presents may have
>>belonged to the previous >>owners...
Or, if you live in the boonies, that cat might have just been abandoned by
asshole "owners" who think that dumping a cat near an old barn is "fine".
The only thing I like about the very old barn closest to my property having
been converted into a McMansion is that no one drives by and dumps out
pregnant cats anymore. Used to be a monthly occurrence. Some of my best cats
arrived in that fashion, by that barn, but I'm happy that no one else will
be abandoned out here just because city dwellers are lazy morons. Obviously
not every person who lives in a city is a lazy-animal-dumping-moron, but
still. Just because there's a "barn", doesn't mean that DOMESTICATED animals
can live there, out on their own, with no help, in upstate NY, year round.
Again, MORONS!
Val Gal
seven years ago. Outdoor cats don't last long; they become coyote
food. With a number of foreclosures nearby, it could very well be an
abandoned cat trying to bribe me. :)
h
So take it in for doG's sake!
mike
I'd check for a pentagram painted in goat's blood.
You don't live in Louisiana do you?
Joseph Capgras
Oh, that's Obama's latest governmental bailout program program.
HeyBub
>>
>> What's wrong with you? You have a cat leaving you presents. Why
>> would you want to discourage that behavior? The cat is killing off
>> garden pests. I say, leave out some food and you'll have a new pet.
> Which garden pest are you refering to?
> F*** cats and their owners. They make a hell of a mess in the garden
> and there is no more destructive thing to the environment than cats.
Hmm.
Mice
Rats
Squirrels
Voles
Moles
Locusts
Snakes
Frogs & Toads
Rabbits
Lizards
Bugs
Opossums (small)
Hamsters
Gerbils
In sum, almost all birds, reptiles, insects, small mammals, and fish.
As for your garden, cats are carnivores and do not eat plants (they will
nibble on a few things as a breath freshener).
The Daring Dufas
What's an "irgun"? Is it Scottish for "air gun"? *snicker*
TDD
JIMMIE
mm
wrote:
>They make a hell of a mess in the garden
>and there is no more destructive thing to the environment than cats.
That's right. The original Gulf oil well leak was an attempt get rid
of an infestation of Gulf Cats.
mm
<valen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Five times in the past two weeks, "something" has left parts of small
>animals at my front door. The items range from liver, kidneys,
>intestines, and once a small paw like a squirrel's, but very little/no
>blood. I dispose of the items and hose the area down (I removed the
>front door mat after the first time). I've also tried spraying the
>area - one time with citrus air freshener and one time with lysol
>spray (got a "present" the next morning). My front door is sheltered
>and a little secluded. What might be doing this and how do I
>discourage it?
Put up a sign.
No Trespassing.
Oren
<the-dari...@peckerhead.net> wrote:
>What's an "irgun"? Is it Scottish for "air gun"?
Almost. Kinda like "air brakes" Air da gonna work or air day ain't.
--
6th Florida Inf`ntry, Co G, CSA 1861-1864 Confederate States Army
The Daring Dufas
> On Sun, 23 May 2010 17:25:24 -0500, The Daring Dufas
> <the-dari...@peckerhead.net> wrote:
>
>> What's an "irgun"? Is it Scottish for "air gun"?
>
> Almost. Kinda like "air brakes" Air da gonna work or air day ain't.
>
Did you notice that I misspelled "iargun"? *snicker*
TDD
harry
Finger trouble.
harry
Nothing wrong with any of the above.
Clearly you nothing about cats. If you plant anything they come along,
dig a hole and shit in it. Thus ruining what you've planted. They
also piss and spray everywhere, the stink is awful.
Filthy objects.
There are no locusts, gerbils, possums where I live. And no hamsters
live where you live unless you come from the Middle East.
The Daring Dufas
Premature postification, it happens to men sometimes.
TDD
ransley
> Five times in the past two weeks, "something" has left parts of small
> animals at my front door. The items range from liver, kidneys,
> intestines, and once a small paw like a squirrel's, but very little/no
> blood. I dispose of the items and hose the area down (I removed the
> front door mat after the first time). I've also tried spraying the
> area - one time with citrus air freshener and one time with lysol
> spray (got a "present" the next morning). My front door is sheltered
> and a little secluded. What might be doing this and how do I
> discourage it?
Sounds like a Voodo ritual. Put out some food.
HeyBub
> On May 23, 10:54?pm, "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> harry wrote:
>>
>>>> What's wrong with you? You have a cat leaving you presents. Why
>>>> would you want to discourage that behavior? The cat is killing off
>>>> garden pests. I say, leave out some food and you'll have a new pet.
>>> Which garden pest are you refering to?
I know quite a bit about cats. For example, cats, along with camels and
giraffes, are the only animals that move both feet on the same side when
walking. It's left-front, left-rear, right-front, right-rear. All other
four-leggers alternate right-left.
Some 6,000 years ago, cats saved the Egyptians from starvation as they
controlled the mice and rats during the run-up to large scale agriculture.
The Egyptians were so pleased, they elevated the cat to god-status (Bastet).
Conversely, in the Middle Ages, cats were thought to be the familiars of
witches and incarnations of Satan. Consequently, cats were eradicated in
great swaths of Europe. The rats multiplied like rats do. The fleas on the
rats multiplied even faster. One-third of Europe died from the Black Plague.
As to cats digging a hole and doing their business, this is actually GOOD
for your plants. Obviously your plants are dying in SPITE of the cat's
help. I suspect you may be planting the items in your garden upside-down.
The green side goes up. Follow this rule, and you can't go wrong.
Kurt Ullman
"HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> I know quite a bit about cats. For example, cats, along with camels and
> giraffes, are the only animals that move both feet on the same side when
> walking. It's left-front, left-rear, right-front, right-rear. All other
> four-leggers alternate right-left.
Horses do that, too. Okay Standardbread pacers on the track, but
there you are. (g).
--
I want to find a voracious, small-minded predator
and name it after the IRS.
Robert Bakker, paleontologist
Harry K
> In article <L9mdnREeF-VT5GfWnZ2dnUVZ_iydn...@earthlink.com>,
>
> "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> > I know quite a bit about cats. For example, cats, along with camels and
> > giraffes, are the only animals that move both feet on the same side when
> > walking. It's left-front, left-rear, right-front, right-rear. All other
> > four-leggers alternate right-left.
>
> Horses do that, too. Okay Standardbread pacers on the track, but
> there you are. (g).
>
>
Do the pacers do that from birth? I have always thought they had to
be trained to do it.
Harry K
Doug Miller
That gait is called "pacing". Nearly all four-legged animals can pace
naturally AFAIK -- dogs do it frequently -- but most prefer other gaits most
of the time. Standardbred horses don't have to be trained to pace; rather,
they have to be trained *not* to canter or gallop.
Jack Hammer
If you find a fish wrapped in newspaper then I would say you have
grounds to be concerned.
harry
>
> - Show quoted text -
Digging plants and seeds up is never good for them.
The ancient Eyptians worshipped dung beetles too. So what?
People still die of plague in Africa today. Again, so what? We don't
have any cats round where I live, they get run over on the busy
highway. There ARE rats. But no plague.
The reason for the appearance/disappearance of plague was that the
plague was carried on the fleas of black rats only.
DerbyDad03
> Val Gal wrote:
> > Leaving only the guts didn't appear to be cat like to me, but I bow to
> > the greater collective knowledge/experience. Thanks.
>
> Doesn't get any more cat-like than prototypical cat behavior...
>
> --
Having had outdoor cats for a few decades, I gotta agree with ValGal
to some extent.
Our cats usually enjoy the fruits of their labor in private and the
leftovers are found in the back corner of the garage or under a bush,
depending on where they decided to have their picnic.
The "front-door gifts" have been fully intact, albeit demised,
creatures in the form of birds, chipmunks, mice, etc.
I don't recall every having been gifted just pieces and parts.
I'll agree that it *sounds* like a cat, but the pieces and parts is
not prototypical in my experience.
The Daring Dufas
> Five times in the past two weeks, "something" has left parts of small
> animals at my front door. The items range from liver, kidneys,
> intestines, and once a small paw like a squirrel's, but very little/no
> blood. I dispose of the items and hose the area down (I removed the
> front door mat after the first time). I've also tried spraying the
> area - one time with citrus air freshener and one time with lysol
> spray (got a "present" the next morning). My front door is sheltered
> and a little secluded. What might be doing this and how do I
> discourage it?
I returned home from work and my Weimaraner was chewing on something.
It turned out to be a deer leg and I had a vision of a three legged deer
hobbling around in the woods. I suppose some hunter tossed it out some
where but I never did figure out where my dog got the darn thing. He
sure was proud of that leg, it kept him occupied for quite a while.
TDD
nor...@earthlink.net
I have to agree...the original post made it sound as if separate, intact
organs were being left. That would seem very peculiar...cats don't
dissect their prey.
Smitty Two
"nor...@earthlink.net" <nor...@earthlink.net> wrote:
I've had many cats, and separate, intact organs are very common. They do
indeed dissect their prey, at least to the point of eating around organs
they don't care to consume.
Harry K
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
I had a cat that would do that. It was always the gall bladder
(intact) with a bit of attached tissue and always on the front step.
Harry K
Harry K
> In article <V4idnbmHEOF3zmHWnZ2dnUVZ_judn...@earthlink.com>,
>
> - Show quoted text -
After thinking about my post above for a minute, it dawned on me that
my cat's leavings weren't a "gift". That cat just like to dine on his
victim at that location.
Harry K
h
"ktos" <kt...@abc987.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> I have to agree...the original post made it sound as if separate, intact
>> organs were being left. That would seem very peculiar...cats don't
>> dissect their prey.
>>
>
Maybe not your cats, but all my formerly-feral cats left all sorts of intact
organs and various pieces (paws, tails, ears) for us every morning. I've
only had one cat who ate everything and didn't leave us the "bits".
HeyBub
> Five times in the past two weeks, "something" has left parts of small
> animals at my front door. The items range from liver, kidneys,
> intestines, and once a small paw like a squirrel's, but very little/no
> blood. I dispose of the items and hose the area down (I removed the
> front door mat after the first time). I've also tried spraying the
> area - one time with citrus air freshener and one time with lysol
> spray (got a "present" the next morning). My front door is sheltered
> and a little secluded. What might be doing this and how do I
> discourage it?
It's a cat, probably abandoned, trying to get in your good graces.
The cat's just doing the best it can, but doesn't have a lot of tools to
work with.
Kitty doesn't know you'd prefer an Ipod.
nor...@earthlink.net
was an indoor cat...there is a coyote living somewhere on a golf course
not far from where I live and I suspect it is well fed with outdoor cats.
dpb
...
> ...there is a coyote living somewhere on a golf course
> not far from where I live and I suspect it is well fed with outdoor cats.
Send him over this-here way; ours haven't been doing their job and
keeping up... :(
--
Jim Elbrecht
wrote:
hehe-- But they must listen a little. Our outside cat used to leave
us little bits from time to time. Hearts, gallbladders- a foot or
two.
But one Mother's Day it left an entire intact mink on the stoop. Mommy
wasn't too impressed with the 'rat' the cat left at the door until I
told her it wasn't a rat, but a mink.
Great hunter outside-- but it apparently thought we had dibs on the
inside mice. When she died & we tossed 'her' chair- we found it full
of cat food in places that cats could never get to.
Jim
DerbyDad03
wrote:
re: "I returned home from work and my Weimaraner was chewing on
something. It turned out to be a deer leg "
I was doing stuff in the front yard the other day and noticed my dog
chewing on something. I thought it was one of his Dingos or rawhide
bones, so I didn't bother myself with it. After he went inside I walk
past where he was playing and found out it was a chipmunk.
I suspect my cat had killed it and left behind the bushes and the dog
pulled it out. It was all slimy, but intact.
Yesterday, my wife was in the backyard with the dog and asked me to
please remove the dead rabbit so the dog would stop playing with it.
My cat has obviously been busy!
Mark Lloyd
<nor...@earthlink.net> wrote:
[snip]
>I have to agree...the original post made it sound as if separate, intact
>organs were being left. That would seem very peculiar...cats don't
>dissect their prey.
"Nibbles", one of my cats brought a small rabbit in one evening. In
the morning, I found a patch of fur and a kidney on the floor. He
often leaves bird feathers in the bathroom.
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us
"At one point in time, many of us actually had Jesus as our personal
lord and saviour. Unfortunately, we later had to dismiss him for
incompetence, gross negligence, misconduct and consistent failure to
show up for work."
h
"Mark Lloyd" <mll...@xmail.com10.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 25 May 2010 18:49:14 -0400, "nor...@earthlink.net"
> <nor...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>I have to agree...the original post made it sound as if separate, intact
>>organs were being left. That would seem very peculiar...cats don't
>>dissect their prey.
>
> "Nibbles", one of my cats brought a small rabbit in one evening. In
> the morning, I found a patch of fur and a kidney on the floor. He
> often leaves bird feathers in the bathroom.
> --
Yup. Normal cat behavior. Back when I had many outdoor formerly-feral cats
we called the roof above our basement walk-out the "wall of carnage". That's
where everyone would leave their "gifts". Many mornings we would find 5 or
six livers, kidneys, etc., several ears (from different types of critters),
a rabbit tail, a few paws from mice or moles, etc., and doG knows what else.
All laid out very neatly and in orderly fashion. Yeah, cats are "dumb"
animals. Umm, yeah, right. When I see bumper stickers saying, "My cat is
smarter than your honor student", I have to smile, because it's true. Yes, I
currently have the dumbest cat to ever draw breath (she's alive because
she's cute), but I've had the privilege of living with cats smarter than
some of my former co-workers. Seriously.