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Re: Which BernzoMatic Torch Head?

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Stubby

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Jul 18, 2006, 11:17:50 AM7/18/06
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After using MAPP for awhile, I've never gone back to propane.
But you could own two torches.


jim evans wrote:
> I am trying to decide between the BernzoMatic TS3000 & TS4000.
>
> The 4000 seems much more convenient it turns on and off automatically
> and it can use both propane and MAPP gases. The problem is you cannot
> regulate the flame. I've never had a torch that you could not
> regulate the flame. I use it for general purpose projects and it
> seems like I need to adjust the flame to the purpose. Maybe not. I
> also use a torch with various tips -- soldering, blow torch tip, paint
> removal (flame spreader). What do you think about this issue -- how
> important is the ability to adjust the flame?
>
> -- jim

ThrowAwa...@isd.net

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Jul 18, 2006, 11:12:41 AM7/18/06
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"jim evans" <jimsTAKE...@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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> I am trying to decide between the BernzoMatic TS3000 & TS4000.
>
> The 4000 seems much more convenient it turns on and off automatically
> and it can use both propane and MAPP gases. The problem is you cannot
> regulate the flame. I've never had a torch that you could not
> regulate the flame. I use it for general purpose projects and it
> seems like I need to adjust the flame to the purpose. Maybe not. I
> also use a torch with various tips -- soldering, blow torch tip, paint
> removal (flame spreader). What do you think about this issue -- how
> important is the ability to adjust the flame?
>

You can buy a separate flow regulator (On-OFF valve) that you put between
the nozzle and source of gas.


Seth Goodman

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Jul 18, 2006, 12:01:42 PM7/18/06
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In article <mtppb29ms3165816d...@4ax.com>, on Tue, 18 Jul
2006 08:58:27 -0500, jim evans wrote:

> I am trying to decide between the BernzoMatic TS3000 & TS4000.
>
> The 4000 seems much more convenient it turns on and off automatically
> and it can use both propane and MAPP gases. The problem is you cannot
> regulate the flame. I've never had a torch that you could not
> regulate the flame. I use it for general purpose projects and it
> seems like I need to adjust the flame to the purpose. Maybe not. I
> also use a torch with various tips -- soldering, blow torch tip, paint
> removal (flame spreader). What do you think about this issue -- how
> important is the ability to adjust the flame?

Not sure how useful an adjustable flame is, but the BernzOmatic TS7000
is essentially the TS4000 with adjustable flame. It's about another $15,
but harder to find - you might have to order it over the Web.

--
Seth Goodman

Pete C.

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Jul 18, 2006, 1:37:05 PM7/18/06
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jim evans wrote:
>
> I am trying to decide between the BernzoMatic TS3000 & TS4000.
>
> The 4000 seems much more convenient it turns on and off automatically
> and it can use both propane and MAPP gases. The problem is you cannot
> regulate the flame. I've never had a torch that you could not
> regulate the flame. I use it for general purpose projects and it
> seems like I need to adjust the flame to the purpose. Maybe not. I
> also use a torch with various tips -- soldering, blow torch tip, paint
> removal (flame spreader). What do you think about this issue -- how
> important is the ability to adjust the flame?
>
> -- jim

I use my TS4000 with MAPP for everything from soldering plumbing to
starting charcoal to crusting creme brulee and have never found any need
for an adjustable flame, or to use propane. You just vary the torch
distance from the target to control the heat input. The MAPP tanks last
so long that the slight gas savings you might get from throttling the
flame is pretty much irrelevant.

Pete C.

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Pete C.

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Jul 18, 2006, 4:08:23 PM7/18/06
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jim evans wrote:

>
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:37:05 GMT, "Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net>
> wrote:
>
> >The MAPP tanks last
> >so long that the slight gas savings you might get from throttling the
> >flame is pretty much irrelevant.
>
> I'm not trying to save gas. I throttle the flame back on my manual
> torch in order to use it with the soldering tip and the flame spreader
> to strip paint.
>
> -- jim

There are better tools for both those tasks. Heavy soldering should be
done with an electric iron or gun generally and the handheld IR paint
strippers or vacuum attached power sander type strippers are better.

Pete C.

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Pete C.

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Jul 18, 2006, 8:52:58 PM7/18/06
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jim evans wrote:
>
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:08:23 GMT, "Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net>
> But then you have to buy and store 3 occasional use tools instead of
> one.
>
> -- jim

That must be my problem, and why I need (and have) a forklift in my home
shop.

Pete C.

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