Re: Why do circuit breakers go up for on and down for off?

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 17:28:35 -0000, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

> On 28/02/2023 15:55, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 13:39:53 +0000, Max Demian
>> <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/02/2023 20:55, NY wrote:
>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <C...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:op.101j6...@ryzen.home...
>>>
>>>>> So they couldn't explain the difference in colour of a lettuce and the
>>>>> sky? WTF?
>>>>
>>>> Exactly. It's weird that they survived for so long without words to
>>>> differentiate colours which most of use see as being different. The
>>>> various colours at the blue end of the rainbow (blue, indigo, violet)
>>>> are not as easy to differentiate, and I can understand *those* being
>>>> thought of as various shades of blue, but red, orange, yellow, green,
>>>> blue are all colours that are fairly distinct and deserve individual names.
>>>
>>> Who decide what are distinct colours anyway? To my way of thinking,
>>> there are six /distinct/ colours in the spectrum, red, orange, yellow,
>>> green, blue and violet.
>>>
>>> Indigo was added by Newton to make it up to seven, which he regarded as
>>> a magic number.
>>
>> Human cone cells come in three wavelengths, roughly r-g-b, so if we
>> name more colors it's arbitrary.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cone_cell
>
> From the diagram on the right, it's more like blue, greeny-yellow and
> yellow if you measure the sensitivities at different frequencies.

I call bullshit. If the lowest frequency detector was yellow, how do we see red? And why does the RGB system on TVs work so well?

> We can perceive a lot more colours by comparing the relative signals
> from the different cones.

I wonder why women tend to be more colour fussy? Are they being fussy or accurate?

> How we name them is up to us, according to how important they are.
>
>> Retinas vary a lot between individuals too, especially males.
>
> Many (mostly male) humans have only two kinds of cones: blue and yellow,
> which is what most mammals have.

It's nowhere near "many".

> Males with just the two kinds of cones (referred to a red/green
> colour-blind) can see about three distinct colours in the spectrum
> instead of six.

Females sometimes have 4.

[Max Demian]

(a) The frequencies represent the peaks of the curves. You will see from
the diagram that both of the yellow sensitive cones have tails that
extend well into the red. We see red by comparing the relative levels of
the two. People with only one type of yellow cone can't do this, which
is why they can't tell red from green.

(b) I suspect that any three well separated colours would work. Maybe
RGB was chosen as phosphors and dyes for those colours are available, or
maybe because "famous scientist" Maxwell said that we see red, blue and
green.

>> We can perceive a lot more colours by comparing the relative signals
>> from the different cones.
>
> I wonder why women tend to be more colour fussy?  Are they being fussy
> or accurate?
>
>> How we name them is up to us, according to how important they are.
>>
>>> Retinas vary a lot between individuals too, especially males.
>>
>> Many (mostly male) humans have only two kinds of cones: blue and yellow,
>> which is what most mammals have.
>
> It's nowhere near "many".

My other post links to the Wiki article on colour blindness. It's about 8%

>> Males with just the two kinds of cones (referred to a red/green
>> colour-blind) can see about three distinct colours in the spectrum
>> instead of six.
>
> Females sometimes have 4.

Showoffs.

--
Max Demian

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 11:33:34 +0000, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com>

There are clearly differences in male/female color vision. There are
other diffrences, which is nice.

[Peeler]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 11:33:34 +0000, Max Dumbian, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

> (a) The frequencies represent the peaks of the curves. You will see from

Is this still the idiotic "circuit breakers" thread, you idiotic trolling
and trashing senile SHITHEAD?

--
Max Dumb having another senile moment:
"It's the consistency of the shit that counts. Sometimes I don't need to
wipe, but I have to do so to tell. Also humans have buttocks to get
smeared due to our bipedalism."
Message-ID: <6vydnWiYDoV1VUrD...@brightview.co.uk>

[rbowman]

On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 06:08:29 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:


> I wonder why women tend to be more colour fussy? Are they being fussy
> or accurate?

They are willing to utter the bullshit names marketers come up with to
describe colors. All I know about teal is they're tasty if you manage to
shoot one.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-03-08, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 06:08:29 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>
>
>> I wonder why women tend to be more colour fussy? Are they being fussy
>> or accurate?
>
> They are willing to utter the bullshit names marketers come up with to
> describe colors.

I prefer to use the names assigned by Crayola.

> All I know about teal is they're tasty if you manage to shoot one.

I can't believe you lived through the 1980s without knowing more
about the color teal. The entire decade was colored teal and
mauve.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Scott Lurndal]

Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> writes:
>On 2023-03-08, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 06:08:29 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I wonder why women tend to be more colour fussy? Are they being fussy
>>> or accurate?
>>
>> They are willing to utter the bullshit names marketers come up with to
>> describe colors.
>
>I prefer to use the names assigned by Crayola.

The canonical source for color naming is Pantone.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantone

[Peeler]

On 8 Mar 2023 15:46:12 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> They are willing to utter the bullshit names marketers come up with to
> describe colors. All I know about teal is they're tasty if you manage to
> shoot one.

All I know is that you are a more obnoxious blabbermouth and gossip than any
woman, you endlessly gossiping senile washerwoman!

--
Yet more of the so very interesting senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
"My family loaded me into a '51 Chevy and drove from NY to Seattle and
back in '52. I'm alive. The Chevy had a painted steel dashboard with two
little hand prints worn down to the primer because I liked to stand up
and lean on it to see where we were going."
MID: <j2kuc1...@mid.individual.net>

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 08/03/2023 15:46, rbowman wrote:
>All I know about teal is they're tasty if you manage to
> shoot one.

Best wild duck I ever tasted. They dint eat pondweed. They eat estuary
shrimp


--
If I had all the money I've spent on drink...
..I'd spend it on drink.

Sir Henry (at Rawlinson's End)

[Cindy Hamilton]

It depends on your discipline and location.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_chart

I'm happy with the RGB value.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[The Natural Philosopher]

Was it? I was too busy to notice.
I think the most pretentious one is 'taupe'

[rbowman]

On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:50:47 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


> I can't believe you lived through the 1980s without knowing more about
> the color teal. The entire decade was colored teal and mauve.

I will have to resort to DuckDuckGo to find out what the hell mauve is.
Oh, purple, sort of. I went though the '80s without a woman hanging around
the house. They know about that sort of stuff. Well, maybe not my ex. She
never cared about House Beautiful and afaik she never wore makeup in her
life.

In my dotage I've taken to building models of German WWII armor and have
been introduced to the Tamiya rack at the hobby store. Ye Gods...

https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/paints/bottles/

The Germans built some fine tanks but luckily they didn't let Eva Braun
select the color schemes and I can go by the numbers.

[rbowman]

On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 17:49:45 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_chart
>
> I'm happy with the RGB value.

One of the available theme for our product really is teal, so called. I
coded in #008080 and it wasn't a match. I hunted down the programmer and
asked wtf? not very gently. Turns out his boss didn't like the color
everybody else calls teal so he screwed around with the values until he
got something that was acceptable and called it teal.

There are two other sort of blueish choices that I can barely distinguish.

Another product had strange color combination until I figured out it was
the flag of India.

[rbowman]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 17:50:50 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Was it? I was too busy to notice.
> I think the most pretentious one is 'taupe'

Had to look that up too. Mouse colored doesn't sound like it would go over
with the fashionistas. Better than naked mole-rat I guess.

[Peeler]

On 9 Mar 2023 04:23:46 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> One of the available theme for our product really is teal, so called. I
> coded in #008080 and it wasn't a match. I hunted down the programmer and

Another thrilling account from your dramatic life, drama queen? Why do I
even ask! LOL

<FLUSH senile crap>

--
Yet more absolutely idiotic senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
"I save my fries quota for one of the local food trucks that offers
poutine every now and then. If you're going for a coronary might as well
do it right."
MID: <ivdi4g...@mid.individual.net>

[Peeler]

On 9 Mar 2023 04:27:38 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> Had to look that up too. Mouse colored doesn't sound like it would go over
> with the fashionistas. Better than naked mole-rat I guess.

Perfect occasion for you though to "shine" with your pathological
grandiloquence again, bigmouth! ;-)

--
More of the pathological senile gossip's sick shit squeezed out of his sick
head:
"Skunk probably tastes like chicken. I've never gotten that comparison,
most famously with Chicken of the Sea. Tuna is a fish and tastes like a
fish. I will admit I've had chicken that tasted like fish. I don't think I
want to know what they were feeding it."
MID: <k44t5l...@mid.individual.net>

[Peeler]

On 9 Mar 2023 04:14:28 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> I will have to resort to DuckDuckGo to find out what the hell mauve is.

Yeah, that will be another thrilling story from your interesting life, drama
queen! LOL

<FLUSH the usual senile dramatic crap>

--
More typical idiotic senile gossip by lowbrowwoman:
"It's been years since I've been in a fast food burger joint but I used
to like Wendy's because they had a salad bar and baked potatoes."
MID: <ivdi4g...@mid.individual.net>

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-03-09, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:50:47 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>
>> I can't believe you lived through the 1980s without knowing more about
>> the color teal. The entire decade was colored teal and mauve.
>
> I will have to resort to DuckDuckGo to find out what the hell mauve is.
> Oh, purple, sort of. I went though the '80s without a woman hanging around
> the house. They know about that sort of stuff. Well, maybe not my ex. She
> never cared about House Beautiful and afaik she never wore makeup in her
> life.

I'm pretty much indifferent to House Beautiful and never wore makeup.
But my capacity for trivia is nearly boundless.

That said, my husband and I like to watch various home improvement
shows where decorating is also involved. We criticize bad construction
technique and marvel at the decorators' ability to listen to the
homeowners and do nothing like what they wanted. It's always
white walls, kitchen cabinets, and countertops. I think their purpose
is to scrape any personality away from the house.

If an interior decorator ever knocks on my door, they'll be shot
on sight.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[charles]

In article <t1iOL.803539$t5W7....@fx13.iad>,

In a stage play I was involved with, someone asked the difference between
an interior decorator and an interior designer. "The size of the bill."

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

[John Larkin]

On 9 Mar 2023 04:14:28 GMT, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:50:47 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>
>> I can't believe you lived through the 1980s without knowing more about
>> the color teal. The entire decade was colored teal and mauve.
>
>I will have to resort to DuckDuckGo to find out what the hell mauve is.
>Oh, purple, sort of. I went though the '80s without a woman hanging around
>the house. They know about that sort of stuff.

People are very different. You can only generalize about averages but
the normal distribution of most anything is wide.

That's great. There's something for everybody.

[John Larkin]

Exteriors are as bad. No architect now is willing to use decoration or
colors any more. All the new stuff is ugly flat boxes painted grey, or
crude bare concrete.

The old Victorians and deco and moderne houses are quirky and
wonderful.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Golly. I knew mauve as a five year old, red blue and white paint.

Long time before I worked out what Chartreuse was, though.

>
> That's great. There's something for everybody.
>

--
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

[Rod Speed]

Dont agree, nothing wonderful about them imo.

[Cindy Hamilton]

We don't see much concrete here. Mostly wood or vinyl made to look
like wood. The odd bit of cultured stone.

> The old Victorians and deco and moderne houses are quirky and
> wonderful.

I despise Victorian design. Arts and Crafts was a welcome relief.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Scott Lurndal]

Around here (N. California) most homes are stucco with some using painted T-111
plywood siding. Class A office space is mostly glass curtain walls.
Industrial is mostly tilt-up.

There is plenty of architectural innovation in the world, regardless of King Charles
opinions.

https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/brief-history-king-charles-modern-architecture

https://www.archpaper.com/2023/03/here-16-winners-2023-aia-architecture-award/

There are older victorians in most towns as well, dating to the late
1800s; they're generally energy pigs and expensive to care for.

[Peeler]

On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 04:36:10 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent Speed, the auto-contradicting senile
sociopath, blabbered, again:

--
The Natural Philosopher about senile Rodent:
"Rod speed is not a Brexiteer. He is an Australian troll and arsehole."
Message-ID: <pu07vj$s5$2...@dont-email.me>

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 18:30:45 GMT, sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

Hideous grey boxes win awards.

>
>There are older victorians in most towns as well, dating to the late
>1800s; they're generally energy pigs and expensive to care for.

The Vics here are mostly on 24 foot lots with no space between, so the
long sides don't lose heat.

[rbowman]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 08:51:43 -0800, John Larkin wrote:


> The old Victorians and deco and moderne houses are quirky and wonderful.
>

My ex and I had some fun times in the little room at the top of a tower in
an old Victorian. The entry was sort of a trap door so we wouldn't be
disturbed. The curved glass panes blew my mind.

I knew a man who specialized in Victorian restoration. He made a living
but it was mostly a labor of love. Had he accounted for all the hours he
put in and paid a reasonable hourly rate you'd have to be Bill Gates to
afford him.

[rbowman]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 18:02:21 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> I despise Victorian design. Arts and Crafts was a welcome relief.
>

Damn socialist... Morris and all that crew were all radicals. I did read
his 'News From Nowhere' last year and found it enjoyable. He was an
anarchist at heart so it was an answer to the state socialism in Bellamy's
'Looking Backward'.

I really miss old school socialists.

[rbowman]

On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 16:57:02 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Long time before I worked out what Chartreuse was, though.

I tried the green variety once a long time ago. A little goes a long way.

[Peeler]

On 10 Mar 2023 06:33:42 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> Damn socialist...

Damn all bigmouths like you!

<FLUSH another load of the resident bigmouth's always verbose senile crap
unread>

--
Gossiping "lowbrowwoman" about herself:
"Usenet is my blog... I don't give a damn if anyone ever reads my posts
but they are useful in marshaling [sic] my thoughts."
MID: <iteioi...@mid.individual.net>

[Peeler]

On 10 Mar 2023 06:24:56 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> My ex and I had some

Oh, fuck! The typical idiotic senile gossiping starts again...

<FLUSH senile crap again>

[Peeler]

On 10 Mar 2023 06:40:42 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> I tried the green variety once a long time ago. A little goes a long way.

HIGHLY interesting, again! Just like every other tiny detail about your
fascinating personality. <BG>

[Max Demian]

On 09/03/2023 04:14, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:50:47 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> I can't believe you lived through the 1980s without knowing more about
>> the color teal. The entire decade was colored teal and mauve.
>
> I will have to resort to DuckDuckGo to find out what the hell mauve is.

It was all the rage in the nineteenth century.

--
Max Demian

[rbowman]

Ah, the Mauve Decade. I am familiar with the term but never was too clear
about the color involved.

[Peeler]

On 10 Mar 2023 17:26:27 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> Ah, the Mauve Decade. I am familiar with the term but never was too clear
> about the color involved.

Of course not! You are ALL mouth!

[Paul]

https://www.livescience.com/33324-purple-royal-color.html

https://www.canva.com/colors/color-meanings/mauve/

The colour was associated with royalty, because
it used to be expensive to get. Now, it's easy to make
purple dyes for clothing.

Every colour we use, has a fascinating story.
Like Red Dye Number 2 (a suspected carcinogen).
There is a CRC (Chemical Rubber Company) text,
filled with info like this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaranth_%28dye%29

If you want to invent Fruit Loops breakfast cereal,
it means your CRC book is well dog-eared (looking
for colours and smells/flavours for the cereal to be dipped in).

They even got purple ones.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Froot-Loops-Cereal-Bowl.jpg

Paul

[alan_m]

On 09/03/2023 09:54, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>
> That said, my husband and I like to watch various home improvement
> shows where decorating is also involved. We criticize bad construction
> technique and marvel at the decorators' ability to listen to the
> homeowners and do nothing like what they wanted.

But those shows are never in the real world. It used to amaze me that
painters could get the perfect finish while they were applying paint
when people were still sanding down the walls/plaster in the same room
- until the camera got too close. :)

--
mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

[alan_m]

On 09/03/2023 16:51, John Larkin wrote:

> Exteriors are as bad. No architect now is willing to use decoration or
> colors any more. All the new stuff is ugly flat boxes painted grey, or
> crude bare concrete.

<https://www.constructionenquirer.com/2022/02/09/bidding-starts-for-14m-southend-student-block-reclad/>

or

https://tinyurl.com/yee9ywd4


Have you been into a carpet shop recently - 50 shades of grey is an
under estimate. And then there are the various shades of silver (more
grey).

[alan_m]

What about the coloured bathroom suite - I think the one I had was
called champagne but really it was a baby poo colour. At least with
white sanitary ware it's more obvious where to clean.

[Max Demian]

Is that a good idea? I used to live in a place where the bog was piss
colour. Er, fawn.

--
Max Demian

[The Natural Philosopher]

Blimey,is your piss fawn?

Mine is more tan to straw.

I'd get it analysed

--
"And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch".

Gospel of St. Mathew 15:14

[Max Demian]

Are not fauns tan?

--
Max Demian

[The Natural Philosopher]

"Regular urine color ranges from clear to pale yellow"

Tan is rather off the end of normal, but I have 'issues'.

--
"First, find out who are the people you can not criticise. They are your
oppressors."
- George Orwell

[Rod Speed]

Lot darker than that if you haven't had enough to drink.

> Tan is rather off the end of normal,

Bullshit.

[Peeler]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 06:57:47 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

--
Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 89-year-old senile Australian
cretin's pathological trolling:
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/rod-speed-faq.2973853/

[rbowman]

On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 17:07:06 +0000, Max Demian wrote:

> Are not fauns tan?

I suppose a mythological critter can be any color it damn well pleases.

[Peeler]

On 17 Mar 2023 02:00:53 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> I suppose a mythological critter can be any color it damn well pleases.

But what pleases you more other than hearing yourself talking, bigmouth?
Eh??? ;-) LOL

--
More of the senile gossip's absolutely idiotic senile blather:
"I stopped for breakfast at a diner in Virginia when the state didn't do
DST. I remarked on the time difference and the crusty old waitress said
'We keep God's time in Virginia.'

I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while."

MID: <t0tjfa$6r5$1...@dont-email.me>

[The Natural Philosopher]

Unfortunately we are now in etymology land where faun and fawn are used
interchangeably for at least three different things

And fawn has 4 different distinct uses.
1. a young deer
2. a supernatural nature spirit
3. a revolting colour
4. revolting sycophantic behaviour.

Urine can never be fawn, because fawn is a pastel, never a translucent,
color. To have fawn urine would mean you were pissing out solids in
suspension. You might therefore get fawn by pissing into some milk.
Otherwise urine is the colour of tea - from water, through green tea, to
fermented indian tea, depending on diet and kidney damage.



--
“Ideas are inherently conservative. They yield not to the attack of
other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"

- John K Galbraith

[Max Demian]

On 16/03/2023 14:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 16/03/2023 13:47, Max Demian wrote:
>> On 16/03/2023 07:07, alan_m wrote:

>>> What about the coloured bathroom suite - I think the one I had was
>>> called champagne but really it was a baby poo colour. At least with
>>> white sanitary ware it's more obvious where to clean.
>>
>> Is that a good idea? I used to live in a place where the bog was piss
>> colour. Er, fawn.
>>
> Blimey,is your piss fawn?

No, but a fawn bowl will show piss a lot less than a white one.

--
Max Demian

[Mark Lloyd]

On 3/16/23 08:47, Max Demian wrote:

[snip]

> Is that a good idea? I used to live in a place where the bog was piss
> colour. Er, fawn.

When piss color gets old, it can turn into shit color.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish
thing" [Anatole France]

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 11:33:34 -0000, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

> On 08/03/2023 06:08, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 17:28:35 -0000, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 28/02/2023 15:55, John Larkin wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 13:39:53 +0000, Max Demian
>>>> <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 27/02/2023 20:55, NY wrote:
>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <C...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:op.101j6...@ryzen.home...
>>>>>
>>>>>>> So they couldn't explain the difference in colour of a lettuce and
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> sky? WTF?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exactly. It's weird that they survived for so long without words to
>>>>>> differentiate colours which most of use see as being different. The
>>>>>> various colours at the blue end of the rainbow (blue, indigo, violet)
>>>>>> are not as easy to differentiate, and I can understand *those* being
>>>>>> thought of as various shades of blue, but red, orange, yellow, green,
>>>>>> blue are all colours that are fairly distinct and deserve
>>>>>> individual names.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who decide what are distinct colours anyway? To my way of thinking,
>>>>> there are six /distinct/ colours in the spectrum, red, orange, yellow,
>>>>> green, blue and violet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Indigo was added by Newton to make it up to seven, which he regarded as
>>>>> a magic number.
>>>>
>>>> Human cone cells come in three wavelengths, roughly r-g-b, so if we
>>>> name more colors it's arbitrary.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cone_cell
>>>
>>> From the diagram on the right, it's more like blue, greeny-yellow and
>>> yellow if you measure the sensitivities at different frequencies.
>>
>> I call bullshit. If the lowest frequency detector was yellow, how do we
>> see red? And why does the RGB system on TVs work so well?
>
> (a) The frequencies represent the peaks of the curves. You will see from
> the diagram that both of the yellow sensitive cones have tails that
> extend well into the red. We see red by comparing the relative levels of
> the two. People with only one type of yellow cone can't do this, which
> is why they can't tell red from green.

This says it's RGB:
https://www.verywellhealth.com/eye-cones-5088699

This says it's YGV, yet the graph shows the V peaking at a colour which isn't even on the screen:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cone_cell

I'm gonna go with the long held belief it's red green and blue.

> (b) I suspect that any three well separated colours would work. Maybe
> RGB was chosen as phosphors and dyes for those colours are available, or
> maybe because "famous scientist" Maxwell said that we see red, blue and
> green.

More likely everyone's eye is different and without actually dismantling your eye we can't tell. It would explain why some people say colours "clash" and others don't. Or maybe that's just women being stupid, a man never says a colour clashes - how could it? They're just different colours. They don't react with each other like chemicals in a test tube!

>>> We can perceive a lot more colours by comparing the relative signals
>>> from the different cones.
>>
>> I wonder why women tend to be more colour fussy? Are they being fussy
>> or accurate?
>>
>>> How we name them is up to us, according to how important they are.
>>>
>>>> Retinas vary a lot between individuals too, especially males.
>>>
>>> Many (mostly male) humans have only two kinds of cones: blue and yellow,
>>> which is what most mammals have.
>>
>> It's nowhere near "many".
>
> My other post links to the Wiki article on colour blindness. It's about 8%

Not here, maybe varies per country.

>>> Males with just the two kinds of cones (referred to a red/green
>>> colour-blind) can see about three distinct colours in the spectrum
>>> instead of six.
>>
>> Females sometimes have 4.
>
> Showoffs.

Except if you ask them to show off their tits, they won't take it as a compliment. Have you ever known a guy say "how dare you want to see my penis!"?

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 15:13:21 -0000, John Larkin <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 11:33:34 +0000, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com>

>> (b) I suspect that any three well separated colours would work. Maybe
>> RGB was chosen as phosphors and dyes for those colours are available, or
>> maybe because "famous scientist" Maxwell said that we see red, blue and
>> green.
>>

>>>> We can perceive a lot more colours by comparing the relative signals
>>>> from the different cones.
>>>
>>> I wonder why women tend to be more colour fussy? Are they being fussy
>>> or accurate?
>>>
>>>> How we name them is up to us, according to how important they are.
>>>>
>>>>> Retinas vary a lot between individuals too, especially males.
>>>>
>>>> Many (mostly male) humans have only two kinds of cones: blue and yellow,
>>>> which is what most mammals have.
>>>
>>> It's nowhere near "many".
>>
>> My other post links to the Wiki article on colour blindness. It's about 8%
>>

>>>> Males with just the two kinds of cones (referred to a red/green
>>>> colour-blind) can see about three distinct colours in the spectrum
>>>> instead of six.
>>>
>>> Females sometimes have 4.
>>
>> Showoffs.
>

> There are clearly differences in male/female color vision.

Or attitude.

> There are other differences, which is nice.

And some not so nice.

Hang on! The lesbians^W feminists claim they're equal, so their vision must be the same, along with their ability to run a race, so why is the Olympics sexist? Equal when it suits them more like.

[Commander Kinsey]

Look at this graph:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK11059/figure/A766/?report=objectonly

Look at the bright red. It's off the scale for even the 559nm cone. Yet red is easy to see and very vivid. The graph is obviously wrong, if the graph was correct, we shouldn't be able to pick up red much at all.

Think about what colours on that graph are the most prominent. I see 5. Purple, blue, green, yellow, red. So I'd say either:

We have 5 cones, purple, blue, green, yellow, red - but I'm sure doctors would notice we had 5.

We have 3 cones, purple, green, red. The 5 vivid colours I mentioned above are when we either see it mostly with one cone, or equally with 2 cones.

Having cones where the graph shows them doesn't make any sense.

[Max Demian]

On 19/03/2023 16:40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 11:33:34 -0000, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com>
> wrote:
>> On 08/03/2023 06:08, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 17:28:35 -0000, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 28/02/2023 15:55, John Larkin wrote:

>>>>> Human cone cells come in three wavelengths, roughly r-g-b, so if we
>>>>> name more colors it's arbitrary.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cone_cell
>>>>
>>>>  From the diagram on the right, it's more like blue, greeny-yellow and
>>>> yellow if you measure the sensitivities at different frequencies.
>>>
>>> I call bullshit.  If the lowest frequency detector was yellow, how do we
>>> see red?  And why does the RGB system on TVs work so well?
>>
>> (a) The frequencies represent the peaks of the curves. You will see from
>> the diagram that both of the yellow sensitive cones have tails that
>> extend well into the red. We see red by comparing the relative levels of
>> the two. People with only one type of yellow cone can't do this, which
>> is why they can't tell red from green.
>
> Look at this graph:
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK11059/figure/A766/?report=objectonly
>
> Look at the bright red.  It's off the scale for even the 559nm cone.
> Yet red is easy to see and very vivid.  The graph is obviously wrong, if
> the graph was correct, we shouldn't be able to pick up red much at all.

We discern red by comparing the relative stimulation of the three cones.

> Think about what colours on that graph are the most prominent.  I see
> 5.  Purple, blue, green, yellow, red.  So I'd say either:

(Most people would say violet, but there isn't much difference.)

So what about orange? Don't you see orange? (People used not to have a
word for it before the fruit was imported.)

Note that I said "discern" above, not "see". There are tests involving
putting coloured tiles in order (online versions are available); most
people can *distinguish" between 30 and 40 different colours. Clearly we
don't have 30 different kinds of cone.

As well as distinguishing colours in a test, there is the question of
how many spectral colours we regard as distinct. This is a subjective
matter, dependant on culture, occupation and whether we have names for
the colours. For example, I can see that orange is a bit reddish and a
bit yellowish, but (to me) it has a distinct quality of orangeyness.

I've tried, but I can't honestly see indigo as a distinct colour; it's
more like an intermediate between violet and blue. (We are only taught
that indigo is a colour of the spectrum thanks to Newton and his liking
for the number seven.)

> We have 5 cones, purple, blue, green, yellow, red - but I'm sure doctors
> would notice we had 5.
>
> We have 3 cones, purple, green, red.  The 5 vivid colours I mentioned
> above are when we either see it mostly with one cone, or equally with 2
> cones.
>
> Having cones where the graph shows them doesn't make any sense.

It does fit in with our knowledge of how colour vision likely evolved in
us and other primates. Other mammals have just two kinds of cones: blue
and yellow and effectively have red/green colour-blindness. The gene for
the yellow cone could have duplicated and one copy mutated so that it
responded to a slightly different wavelength of light. This was perhaps
useful in our ancestors at it would enable us to distinguish red fruit
from green leaves, or ripe from unripe fruit.

The retention of red/green colour-blindness in some people could be
because such distinctions aren't all that important, or it could be that
such colour-blindness defeats the camouflage that some predators adopted.

--
Max Demian

[Peeler]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 12:58:33 +0000, Max Dumbian, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

> We discern red by comparing the relative stimulation of the three cones.

WTF has your latest senile shit got to do with three ngs you keep
crossposting it to, Dumbian?

--
Max Dumb having another senile moment:
"It's the consistency of the shit that counts. Sometimes I don't need to
wipe, but I have to do so to tell. Also humans have buttocks to get
smeared due to our bipedalism."
MID: <6vydnWiYDoV1VUrD...@brightview.co.uk>
--
And yet another senile moment:
"A fawn bowl will show piss a lot less than a white one."
MID: <tv1of3$1v4qg$1...@dont-email.me>

[Rod Speed]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 23:58:33 +1100, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com>

Can't see why that would be. More likely that those who aren't
colorblind would be able to see the prey better than the color
blind, but that doesnt explain why color blind is much more
common in men.

[Peeler]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 13:10:46 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

--

Marland addressing senile Rodent's tall stories:
"Do you really think people believe your stories you come up with to boost
your self esteem."
Message-ID: <h88tt7...@mid.individual.net>

[Max Demian]

The extra colours have a confusing effect. Have you looked at the colour
blindness test books, the ones with lots of colour dots where you have
to tell which numbers are there? There's one which only colour-blind
people can work out as it has wavy red and green lines.

> but that doesnt explain why color blind is much more
> common in men.

This is because the gene for the extra yellowish cones (don't know which
one) is on the X chromosome and men only have one of those. If the gene
is faulty you only have two working cones; women have two X chromosomes
and provided one has the working gene they are all right.

--
Max Demian

[Rod Speed]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 23:00:22 +1100, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com>

wrote:

> On 21/03/2023 02:10, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 23:58:33 +1100, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>> The retention of red/green colour-blindness in some people could be
>>> because such distinctions aren't all that important,
>>
>>> or it could be that such colour-blindness defeats the camouflage that
>>> some predators adopted.

>> Can't see why that would be. More likely that those who aren't
>> colorblind would be able to see the prey better than the color
>> blind,

> The extra colours have a confusing effect.

Not convinced.

> Have you looked at the colour blindness test books, the ones with lots
> of colour dots where you have to tell which numbers are there? There's
> one which only colour-blind people can work out as it has wavy red and
> green lines.

But wild animals and plants don't use any scheme like that.

>> but that doesnt explain why color blind is much more
>> common in men.

> This is because the gene for the extra yellowish cones (don't know which
> one) is on the X chromosome and men only have one of those. If the gene
> is faulty you only have two working cones; women have two X chromosomes
> and provided one has the working gene they are all right.

Sure, but that's a separate question to why we evolved with some
colorblind.

[John Larkin]

Probably just a defect that is not strongly deselected. Humans are
still evolutionary kluges with enormous variation and lots of bugs.
There's overlap between features and bugs.

Civilization, things like agriculture and specialization and language,
have applied new selection pressures that evolution hasn't caught up
with.

[Peeler]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 03:12:30 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

--

Pomegranate Bastard addressing the trolling senile cretin from Oz:
"I repeat, you are a complete and utter imbecile."
MID: <mpelth1engag7090p...@4ax.com>

[Rod Speed]

Yep, most of the colorblind don't even know that they
are colorblind until they apply to join the military and
discover that they are colorblind and get rejected so
clearly there isnt any selection pressure with that.

> Humans are
> still evolutionary kluges

Not really, more they still breed fine with
a very wide variation across the species.

Dogs in spades.

> with enormous variation

Yes.

> and lots of bugs.

More strictly significant genetic defects.

> There's overlap between features and bugs.

> Civilization, things like agriculture and specialization and language,
> have applied new selection pressures that evolution hasn't caught up
> with.

That's very arguable indeed. The reality is that modern humans
are brilliant at being able to ensure that those with very bad
genetic defects can in fact survive and breed and pass on those
genetic defects.

[Peeler]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 06:27:15 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

--

Sqwertz to Rodent Speed:
"This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative
asshole.
MID: <ev1p6ml7ywd5$.d...@sqwertz.com>

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:56:55 -0000, Scott Lurndal <sc...@slp53.sl.home> wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> writes:
>> On 2023-03-08, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

>>> On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 06:08:29 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I wonder why women tend to be more colour fussy? Are they being fussy
>>>> or accurate?
>>>

>>> They are willing to utter the bullshit names marketers come up with to
>>> describe colors.
>>
>> I prefer to use the names assigned by Crayola.
>
> The canonical source for color naming is Pantone.
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantone

Isn't that some weird Apple invention? Apple users are always going on and on about their colours.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 04:23:46 -0000, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 17:49:45 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_chart
>>
>> I'm happy with the RGB value.
>
> One of the available theme for our product really is teal, so called. I
> coded in #008080 and it wasn't a match. I hunted down the programmer and
> asked wtf?

If you type in a colour you'll find several different RGB values depending on the opinion of the writer.

> not very gently. Turns out his boss didn't like the color
> everybody else calls teal so he screwed around with the values until he
> got something that was acceptable and called it teal.
>
> There are two other sort of blueish choices that I can barely distinguish.

I can tell two colours apart if they're together, I hated 256 colour displays.

> Another product had strange color combination until I figured out it was
> the flag of India.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 04:27:38 -0000, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 17:50:50 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> Was it? I was too busy to notice.
>> I think the most pretentious one is 'taupe'
>
> Had to look that up too. Mouse colored doesn't sound like it would go over
> with the fashionistas. Better than naked mole-rat I guess.

I've killed 3 mice a day in the last week with 7kV. It fucking stinks though. Maybe half an amp is a bit much.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 04:14:28 -0000, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:50:47 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>
>> I can't believe you lived through the 1980s without knowing more about
>> the color teal. The entire decade was colored teal and mauve.
>
> I will have to resort to DuckDuckGo to find out what the hell mauve is.

> Oh, purple, sort of. I went though the '80s without a woman hanging around
> the house. They know about that sort of stuff. Well, maybe not my ex. She
> never cared about House Beautiful and afaik she never wore makeup in her
> life.

My Chemistry teacher once came in 10 minutes late in a fluster. His excuse was his wife (my cooking teacher) was "putting on her makeup with a shovel". She looked like Al Bundy's wife in Married With Children, but way more makeup.

> In my dotage I've taken to building models of German WWII armor and have
> been introduced to the Tamiya rack at the hobby store. Ye Gods...
>
> https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/paints/bottles/
>
> The Germans built some fine tanks but luckily they didn't let Eva Braun
> select the color schemes and I can go by the numbers.

We never painted our Tamiya stuff, as it was often involved in crashes.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 16:57:02 -0000, The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 09/03/2023 16:46, John Larkin wrote:

>> On 9 Mar 2023 04:14:28 GMT, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:50:47 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I can't believe you lived through the 1980s without knowing more about
>>>> the color teal. The entire decade was colored teal and mauve.
>>>
>>> I will have to resort to DuckDuckGo to find out what the hell mauve is.
>>> Oh, purple, sort of. I went though the '80s without a woman hanging around
>>> the house. They know about that sort of stuff.
>>

>> People are very different. You can only generalize about averages but
>> the normal distribution of most anything is wide.
>
> Golly. I knew mauve as a five year old, red blue and white paint.

I knew mauve fawn and beige and they all looked the same to me. Just light brown isn't it?

> Long time before I worked out what Chartreuse was, though.

Sounds like a French delicacy.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 10:25:37 -0000, charles <cha...@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

> In article <t1iOL.803539$t5W7....@fx13.iad>,
> Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:

>> On 2023-03-09, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:50:47 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> I can't believe you lived through the 1980s without knowing more about
>> >> the color teal. The entire decade was colored teal and mauve.
>> >
>> > I will have to resort to DuckDuckGo to find out what the hell mauve is.
>> > Oh, purple, sort of. I went though the '80s without a woman hanging

>> > around the house. They know about that sort of stuff. Well, maybe not
>> > my ex. She never cared about House Beautiful and afaik she never wore
>> > makeup in her life.
>

>> I'm pretty much indifferent to House Beautiful and never wore makeup.
>> But my capacity for trivia is nearly boundless.
>
>> That said, my husband and I like to watch various home improvement
>> shows where decorating is also involved. We criticize bad construction
>> technique and marvel at the decorators' ability to listen to the
>> homeowners and do nothing like what they wanted. It's always
>> white walls, kitchen cabinets, and countertops. I think their purpose
>> is to scrape any personality away from the house.
>
>> If an interior decorator ever knocks on my door, they'll be shot
>> on sight.
>
> In a stage play I was involved with, someone asked the difference between
> an interior decorator and an interior designer. "The size of the bill."

Birds aren't good at decorating.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 16:51:43 -0000, John Larkin <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 09:54:33 GMT, Cindy Hamilton

> <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-03-09, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:50:47 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I can't believe you lived through the 1980s without knowing more about
>>>> the color teal. The entire decade was colored teal and mauve.
>>>
>>> I will have to resort to DuckDuckGo to find out what the hell mauve is.
>>> Oh, purple, sort of. I went though the '80s without a woman hanging around
>>> the house. They know about that sort of stuff. Well, maybe not my ex. She
>>> never cared about House Beautiful and afaik she never wore makeup in her
>>> life.
>>
>> I'm pretty much indifferent to House Beautiful and never wore makeup.
>> But my capacity for trivia is nearly boundless.
>>
>> That said, my husband and I like to watch various home improvement
>> shows where decorating is also involved. We criticize bad construction
>> technique and marvel at the decorators' ability to listen to the
>> homeowners and do nothing like what they wanted. It's always
>> white walls, kitchen cabinets, and countertops. I think their purpose
>> is to scrape any personality away from the house.
>>
>> If an interior decorator ever knocks on my door, they'll be shot
>> on sight.
>

> Exteriors are as bad. No architect now is willing to use decoration or
> colors any more. All the new stuff is ugly flat boxes painted grey, or
> crude bare concrete.
>
> The old Victorians and deco and moderne houses are quirky and
> wonderful.

Best thing for inside and outside are half logs.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 06:24:56 -0000, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 08:51:43 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
>
>
>> The old Victorians and deco and moderne houses are quirky and wonderful.
>>
>

> My ex and I had some fun times in the little room at the top of a tower in
> an old Victorian. The entry was sort of a trap door so we wouldn't be
> disturbed. The curved glass panes blew my mind.

Should you not have been paying attention to your ex?

[John Larkin]

On 10 Mar 2023 06:24:56 GMT, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 08:51:43 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
>
>
>> The old Victorians and deco and moderne houses are quirky and wonderful.
>>
>
>My ex and I had some fun times in the little room at the top of a tower in
>an old Victorian. The entry was sort of a trap door so we wouldn't be
>disturbed. The curved glass panes blew my mind.
>

>I knew a man who specialized in Victorian restoration. He made a living
>but it was mostly a labor of love. Had he accounted for all the hours he
>put in and paid a reasonable hourly rate you'd have to be Bill Gates to
>afford him.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/xghwicv4920orlc/Cumberland_Tower.jpg?raw=1

[Max Demian]

This is only going to get worse with the promotion of somatic gene
splicing, where an individual with a lethal genetic defect is
"corrected" with, for example, modified bone marrow. Their offspring
will have the original condition.

--
Max Demian

[Max Demian]

I expect most modern log cabins cheat that way, with insulation between.

--
Max Demian

[Peeler]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 17:19:36 +0000, Max Dumbian, the REAL dumb, notorious,

troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

> I expect most modern log cabins cheat that way, with insulation between.

I expect the trolling Scottish wanker to keep trolling the shit out of all
you brain damaged troll-feeding senile assholes!

[rbowman]

I can multitask.

[rbowman]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 02:16:25 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

> Best thing for inside and outside are half logs.

Until the place warms up and the insects come out to dance.

[rbowman]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 02:15:04 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:


>> Long time before I worked out what Chartreuse was, though.
>
> Sounds like a French delicacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartreuse_(liqueur)

My father always told me not to drink anything that looks like swamp water
or turns cloudy when you add water. I did try ouzo back in the day and
survived.

[rbowman]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 02:14:09 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:


> My Chemistry teacher once came in 10 minutes late in a fluster. His
> excuse was his wife (my cooking teacher) was "putting on her makeup with
> a shovel". She looked like Al Bundy's wife in Married With Children,
> but way more makeup.

I recently bought an airbrush. The instruction manual has a few phrases
like 'remove all makeup buildup around the nozzle'. Rather scary to
contemplate.

[Peeler]

On 23 Mar 2023 04:40:06 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> I can multitask.

The ONLY thing you "can" is talk big, REAL big, you abnormal verbose senile
chatterbox!

--
More of the senile gossip's absolutely idiotic senile blather:
"I stopped for breakfast at a diner in Virginia when the state didn't do
DST. I remarked on the time difference and the crusty old waitress said
'We keep God's time in Virginia.'

I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while."

MID: <t0tjfa$6r5$1...@dont-email.me>

[Peeler]

On 23 Mar 2023 04:41:18 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> Until the place warms up and the insects come out to dance.

Another so very "cool" line from the resident pathological bigmouth! <VBG>

--
Yet more of the very interesting senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
"I save my fries quota for one of the local food trucks that offers
poutine every now and then. If you're going for a coronary might as well
do it right."
MID: <ivdi4g...@mid.individual.net>

[Peeler]

On 23 Mar 2023 04:46:14 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> My father always told me not to

Did any of your relatives (also the nurses in kindergarten and teachers at
school) ever tell you not to talk that big as if you were some American
superhero, Trumptard? <BG>

--
Gossiping "lowbrowwoman" about herself:
"Usenet is my blog... I don't give a damn if anyone ever reads my posts
but they are useful in marshaling [sic] my thoughts."
MID: <iteioi...@mid.individual.net>

[Peeler]

On 23 Mar 2023 04:53:03 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> I recently bought an airbrush.

THRILLING, THRILLING! People just can't get enough to learn ever more
details about your interesting personality. Innit, my punching bag? LOL

--
Another one of the resident senile bigmouth's idiotic, so very "cool" lines:
"If you're an ax murderer don't leave souvenir photos on your phone."
"MID: <k7ssc7...@mid.individual.net>"

[Vir Campestris]

On 21/03/2023 12:00, Max Demian wrote:
> This is because the gene for the extra yellowish cones (don't know which
> one) is on the X chromosome and men only have one of those. If the gene
> is faulty you only have two working cones; women have two X chromosomes
> and provided one has the working gene they are all right.

There are also variations in the colour sensitivity of the alleles. Some
women have two different varieties on their two X chromosomes, and may
be able to differentiate colours that normal people can't.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrachromacy>

Andy

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 20:59:15 -0000, John Larkin <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 09 Mar 2023 18:30:45 GMT, sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)

> wrote:
>
>> Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> writes:

>>> We don't see much concrete here. Mostly wood or vinyl made to look
>>> like wood. The odd bit of cultured stone.
>>
>> Around here (N. California) most homes are stucco with some using painted T-111
>> plywood siding. Class A office space is mostly glass curtain walls.
>> Industrial is mostly tilt-up.
>>
>> There is plenty of architectural innovation in the world, regardless of King Charles
>> opinions.
>>
>> https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/brief-history-king-charles-modern-architecture
>>
>> https://www.archpaper.com/2023/03/here-16-winners-2023-aia-architecture-award/
>
> Hideous grey boxes win awards.
>
>>
>> There are older victorians in most towns as well, dating to the late
>> 1800s; they're generally energy pigs and expensive to care for.
>
> The Vics here are mostly on 24 foot lots with no space between, so the
> long sides don't lose heat.

I'd prefer space to heat.

[Commander Kinsey]

Vinyl made to look like wood doesn't look like wood.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 07:02:48 -0000, alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On 09/03/2023 16:51, John Larkin wrote:
>
>> Exteriors are as bad. No architect now is willing to use decoration or
>> colors any more. All the new stuff is ugly flat boxes painted grey, or
>> crude bare concrete.
>

> <https://www.constructionenquirer.com/2022/02/09/bidding-starts-for-14m-southend-student-block-reclad/>

Is that tetris? I hope the "architect" was tortured slowly.

> or
>
> https://tinyurl.com/yee9ywd4

Those go the same place, so why give both?

> Have you been into a carpet shop recently - 50 shades of grey is an
> under estimate. And then there are the various shades of silver (more
> grey).

My neighbour has a beige carpet. She decided it was getting old, so replaced it with the exact same carpet. I couldn't tell the difference, she claimed it wasn't so worn.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 19:03:14 -0000, Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote:

> On 3/10/2023 12:26 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 12:13:26 +0000, Max Demian wrote:

>>
>>> On 09/03/2023 04:14, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:50:47 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I can't believe you lived through the 1980s without knowing more about
>>>>> the color teal. The entire decade was colored teal and mauve.
>>>>
>>>> I will have to resort to DuckDuckGo to find out what the hell mauve is.
>>>

>>> It was all the rage in the nineteenth century.
>>
>> Ah, the Mauve Decade. I am familiar with the term but never was too clear
>> about the color involved.
>>
>
> https://www.livescience.com/33324-purple-royal-color.html
>
> https://www.canva.com/colors/color-meanings/mauve/

I thought it was another word for fawn or beige.

> The colour was associated with royalty, because
> it used to be expensive to get. Now, it's easy to make
> purple dyes for clothing.

I thought they called that "royal blue" or "royal purple"? Those sound fancier than "mauve".

> Every colour we use, has a fascinating story.
> Like Red Dye Number 2 (a suspected carcinogen).
> There is a CRC (Chemical Rubber Company) text,
> filled with info like this.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaranth_%28dye%29
>
> If you want to invent Fruit Loops breakfast cereal,
> it means your CRC book is well dog-eared (looking
> for colours and smells/flavours for the cereal to be dipped in).
>
> They even got purple ones.
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Froot-Loops-Cereal-Bowl.jpg

I'm amazed we can't just make colours without them having nasty chemical abilities.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 07:07:41 -0000, alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On 10/03/2023 17:26, rbowman wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 12:13:26 +0000, Max Demian wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/03/2023 04:14, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:50:47 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I can't believe you lived through the 1980s without knowing more about
>>>>> the color teal. The entire decade was colored teal and mauve.
>>>>
>>>> I will have to resort to DuckDuckGo to find out what the hell mauve is.
>>>
>>> It was all the rage in the nineteenth century.
>>
>> Ah, the Mauve Decade. I am familiar with the term but never was too clear
>> about the color involved.
>

> What about the coloured bathroom suite - I think the one I had was
> called champagne but really it was a baby poo colour. At least with
> white sanitary ware it's more obvious where to clean.

White? Ugh. We have colour eyesight, use it.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 14:09:37 -0000, The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 16/03/2023 13:47, Max Demian wrote:

>> On 16/03/2023 07:07, alan_m wrote:
>>> On 10/03/2023 17:26, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 12:13:26 +0000, Max Demian wrote:
>>>>> On 09/03/2023 04:14, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:50:47 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't believe you lived through the 1980s without knowing more
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> the color teal. The entire decade was colored teal and mauve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will have to resort to DuckDuckGo to find out what the hell mauve
>>>>>> is.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was all the rage in the nineteenth century.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, the Mauve Decade. I am familiar with the term but never was too
>>>> clear
>>>> about the color involved.
>>>
>>> What about the coloured bathroom suite - I think the one I had was
>>> called champagne but really it was a baby poo colour. At least with
>>> white sanitary ware it's more obvious where to clean.
>>

>> Is that a good idea? I used to live in a place where the bog was piss
>> colour. Er, fawn.
>>
> Blimey,is your piss fawn?
>
> Mine is more tan to straw.
>
> I'd get it analysed

If it isn't clear, you're dehydrated.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 17:51:57 -0000, The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 16/03/2023 17:07, Max Demian wrote:

>> Are not fauns tan?
>>
> "Regular urine color ranges from clear to pale yellow"
>
> Tan is rather off the end of normal, but I have 'issues'.

I do wish people would say problems.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 09:54:40 -0000, The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 17/03/2023 02:00, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 17:07:06 +0000, Max Demian wrote:
>>
>>> Are not fauns tan?
>>
>> I suppose a mythological critter can be any color it damn well pleases.
>
> Unfortunately we are now in etymology land where faun and fawn are used
> interchangeably for at least three different things
>
> And fawn has 4 different distinct uses.
> 1. a young deer
> 2. a supernatural nature spirit
> 3. a revolting colour
> 4. revolting sycophantic behaviour.

I've only heard 1 and 3. I had to look up sycophantic. Can't we just say parasitical flatterer?

> Urine can never be fawn, because fawn is a pastel, never a translucent,
> color. To have fawn urine would mean you were pissing out solids in
> suspension.

Since when did a colour have the variable "opacity"? You can have the same blue solid piece of plastic as the blue liquid sat next to it.

> You might therefore get fawn by pissing into some milk.
> Otherwise urine is the colour of tea - from water, through green tea, to
> fermented indian tea, depending on diet and kidney damage.

GREEN?!

[Commander Kinsey]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 13:03:31 -0000, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

> On 16/03/2023 14:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 16/03/2023 13:47, Max Demian wrote:
>>> On 16/03/2023 07:07, alan_m wrote:
>
>>>> What about the coloured bathroom suite - I think the one I had was
>>>> called champagne but really it was a baby poo colour. At least with
>>>> white sanitary ware it's more obvious where to clean.
>>>
>>> Is that a good idea? I used to live in a place where the bog was piss
>>> colour. Er, fawn.
>>>
>> Blimey,is your piss fawn?

> No, but a fawn bowl will show piss a lot less than a white one.

Mould coloured would be the best idea.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 18:59:19 -0000, Mark Lloyd <not....@all.invalid> wrote:

> On 3/16/23 08:47, Max Demian wrote:
>
> [snip]

>
>> Is that a good idea? I used to live in a place where the bog was piss
>> colour. Er, fawn.
>

> When piss color gets old, it can turn into shit color.

Do you mean the piss has sat there a while, or it came form an old person?

[Max Demian]

"I drink, I fall down, no problem" - WC Fields I think.

St Mugg (Malcolm Muggeridge) hated people saying something was a
"problem", so it's quite a diverse objection.

Just because someone else says something is s "problem" doesn't mean it is.

--
Max Demian

[Peeler]

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 12:57:16 +0100, Max Dumbian, the REAL dumb, notorious,

troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

> "I drink, I fall down, no problem" - WC Fields I think.
>
> St Mugg (Malcolm Muggeridge) hated people saying something was a
> "problem", so it's quite a diverse objection.
>
> Just because someone else says something is s "problem" doesn't mean it is.

FFS! What sick shit is this now about, you sick senile shithead?

--
Max Dumb having another senile moment:
"It's the consistency of the shit that counts. Sometimes I don't need to
wipe, but I have to do so to tell. Also humans have buttocks to get
smeared due to our bipedalism."
MID: <6vydnWiYDoV1VUrD...@brightview.co.uk>

And yet another senile moment:

"A fawn bowl will show piss a lot less than a white one."
MID: <tv1of3$1v4qg$1...@dont-email.me>

[Commander Kinsey]

Looks like an invasion from the luddite Mozzies. Blow it up.

[John Larkin]

Yes. A ranch style house with an astroturf lawn and a carport and an
above-ground portable swimming pool would be much nicer.

That house is on my favorite street, one block of Cumberland between
Sanchez and Noe. It's beautiful and bizarre. Near Zuckerberg's house.

My kid's middle name is Noe. We named her for three San Francisco
streets.

[Peeler]

On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 07:12:12 -0700, John Larkin, another obviously brain
dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:

> Yes. A ranch style house with an astroturf lawn and a carport and an
> above-ground portable swimming pool would be much nicer.

WTF has your latest senile shit got to do with "circuit breakers", you
deranged senile bullshit artist?

<FLUSH rest of senile crap unread>