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Christopher

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Jun 24, 2002, 12:44:55 PM6/24/02
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I've discovered two bumble bee nests (or possibly one huge one) right
next to my house. One entrance is under the driveway where it enters
the garage, and under the walk right by the front door. The two
entrances are about thirty feet apart and because of their locations
the bees must be destroyed.

I've tried blasting the holes with wasp and hornet killer several
times and it doesn't seem to make a difference. There is no bee
killer that I've found. I've also flooded the holes a few times a day
with a hose. The only good that seems to do is keep out bees that are
returning to the nest. Once the hose is off and the water has soaked
into the ground it's back to business for them as usual. Can't burn
them out because the entrances are right next to the house.

I've heard of using soapy water but I'm not sure what the mixture
ratio should be and dumping a bucket full down the hole doesn't seem
like it would do much good if the hose doesn't work.

Any ideas, other than calling an exterminator?

Vox Humana

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Jun 24, 2002, 1:37:09 PM6/24/02
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"Christopher" <bli...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Yes. I would just eave it alone. Bees are seldom aggressive and do a lot
of good. You didn't mention that they were a problem.


Bob in TX

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Jun 24, 2002, 2:01:17 PM6/24/02
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Are you sure that they are bumble bees? Take a look at this picture:

http://www.uky.edu/Agriculture/Entomology/entfacts/misc/ef004ci2.gif

About 3 years ago, cicada-killer wasps nested in the ground all around the
back of my house. These things are huge, but not especially hostile unless
you antagonize them. Unfortunately, what they do for a living is wait until
dusk and listen for cicadas. When they hear them, they land on the cicada's
back, sting it, and bring it back to the underground next to lay eggs in.
The wasps were over an inch long themselves, and with a cicada in tow, the
darn things were intimidating to the point where I wouldn't go outside
without carrying a tennis racket to smack them down with.

Tried a half a dozen different kinds of wasp killer, flooding their nests,
smoking them out, and everything else I could think of. Finally broke down
and called an exterminator. It cost $60 and was worth every penny. I had
already spent almost that much on commercial products.

There are shrubs all along the back of the house and the wasp invasion
killed about half of them. Considering the cost of replacing the shrubs and
the money I wasted on "store-bought" sprays, I wish I had called an
exterminator earlier.

Good luck,

Bob in TX
trebor4258-at-yahoo.com


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aj

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Jun 24, 2002, 2:17:26 PM6/24/02
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Christopher wrote:
>
>
> Any ideas, other than calling an exterminator?


http://www.napalm.net/

Keith Karausky

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Jun 24, 2002, 3:02:28 PM6/24/02
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These guys were very helpful with my squirrel problem. Post a message on their
Q+A board. Most likely there are a couple bee threads already.

http://www.unexco.com/

I have no affiliation

JBgoode

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"Vox Humana" <vhu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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And get sued when the neighbor-kid accidently steps in the hole when
retrieving his whiffle ball. This is a potentially dangerous problem. My
sister and a friend had roller skates on and stepped in a hole. She had
dozens of stings, he had scores and went to the hospital. This was in
pre-"sue-everybody" times.

Jon


JerryMouse

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Jun 24, 2002, 5:27:09 PM6/24/02
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"Christopher" <bli...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I don't think you have Bumble Bees (your friend). I think you have hornets
(not your friend). Bees do not live in the ground - hornets do.

Ground hornets hollow out a space underground then build the classic hornet
'football' nest in the hollowed-out space (which may explain why flooding
doesn't help).

Hornets are way meaner than bees and don't die when they sting you. They are
also much more aggressive. They exist by killing small dogs and carrying the
carcasses back to the nest for an obscene feast.

You can wait until night (so the survivors don't recognize you) and fill the
holes with Hornet-Hurt. Or call an exterminator. Or move.

Good luck.


Speedy Jim

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Jun 24, 2002, 5:59:36 PM6/24/02
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JerryMouse wrote:
>
> "Christopher" <bli...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:e2b319f9.02062...@posting.google.com...
> > I've discovered two bumble bee nests (or possibly one huge one) right
> > next to my house.
<SNIP>

>
> I don't think you have Bumble Bees (your friend). I think you have hornets
> (not your friend). Bees do not live in the ground - hornets do.
>
> Ground hornets hollow out a space underground then build the classic hornet
> 'football' nest in the hollowed-out space (which may explain why flooding
> doesn't help).
>
> Hornets are way meaner than bees and don't die when they sting you. They are
> also much more aggressive. They exist by killing small dogs and carrying the
> carcasses back to the nest for an obscene feast.
>
> You can wait until night (so the survivors don't recognize you) and fill the
> holes with Hornet-Hurt. Or call an exterminator. Or move.
>
> Good luck.


Bumble Bees *do* live in the ground.
Go here:
http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/bumblebees.htm
http://hercules.users.netlink.co.uk/Bee.html
http://www.mearns.org.uk/mrssmith/bees/body.htm

They are also non-agressive (unless threatened).
Their hives are small, unlike honeybees.

I currently have a hive active under a doorsill.
I can sit right by the entrance to watch them come and go.
A few of them found a way to get *inside* the house from
the doorsill opening. They're no more bother than a housefly!

If they *must* be eliminated, Sevin dust is often used.
Otherwise, wait till late fall; the hive will become inactive.

Jim

Vox Humana

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Jun 24, 2002, 6:22:53 PM6/24/02
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"JBgoode" <jo...@ihateclownsSPAMMY.com> wrote in message
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You didn't say that you had a crater that was a trip hazard, you said you
had bees.


Kpiog

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Jun 24, 2002, 7:39:36 PM6/24/02
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"Christopher" <bli...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I've discovered two bumble bee nests (or possibly one huge one) right
> next to my house. One entrance is under the driveway where it enters
> the garage, and under the walk right by the front door. The two
> entrances are about thirty feet apart and because of their locations

We had a wasp nest under our front concrete steps last year. Sprays won't
work because unless you see it, the spray won't reach the nest. We used a
powder wasp killer (I think it was Sevin but check the container) and
applied it with a turkey baster (or cameral lens air pump cleaner thingy
watchamacallit...). We "puffed" the powder into the the area the wasps went
in and a little around the outside of the hole. They end up getting the
powder on them when going into the hole and carried it into the nest...


Bob

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Jun 24, 2002, 8:33:04 PM6/24/02
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I've used a shop vac on yellowjackets. The nozzle noise causes them to
"investigate". Just turn it on and place the end of the tube in the obvious
entrance, perhaps blocking off other access. Then leave it on until you stop
hearing "thunks" as the bees are sucked in. Repeat as necessary.

Bob

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wayne

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Jun 24, 2002, 8:46:11 PM6/24/02
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You can get a foaming hornet killer, which will stick like shaving cream.
You could also fill the holes in or get some of the gopher killer gas bombs
that should work. Liquid sevin should work , or diazanon..

Wayne


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MKing98978

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Jun 24, 2002, 10:22:41 PM6/24/02
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I've been know to wait till night when they aren't as active, pour gasoline in
the hole and light a match

Pamini

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Jun 24, 2002, 10:27:10 PM6/24/02
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I have bees in the ground and use Cygone - it works; however i was told to spray
the "NEST", which is what it is, at NIGHT, because that is when the bee is in
there. In other words: wait until they go to bed, then flood the "NEST" with
Cygone. I use the usual (one gallon); pump-up sprayer you use for spraying
trees, garden, shrubbery etc. (i think i got it at Wal Mart or K Mart). I pump
it up to full-steam; stick the nozzle into the hole leading into the "nest", and
let-'r-rip . . . All those "nests" are now defunct. I can only see one or two
"nests" now, but as i said (below), i probably got those remaining guys (on the
wing) in the foliage . . .

I havenot gotten rid of all the little devils, but they are becoming less and
less. Today i sprayed them as they were at work in the foliage - hitting them
from below and above will wipe them out eventually - i am sure (i am beginning
to feel sorry for them).

Pmini

In article <e2b319f9.02062...@posting.google.com>, Christopher
says...

whiz444

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Jun 24, 2002, 11:07:01 PM6/24/02
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"Pamini" <nos...@newsranger.com> wrote in message
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> I have bees in the ground and use Cygone - it works; however i was told to
spray
> the "NEST", which is what it is, at NIGHT, because that is when the bee is
in
> there. In other words: wait until they go to bed, then flood the "NEST"
with
> Cygone. I use the usual (one gallon); pump-up sprayer you use for spraying
> trees, garden, shrubbery etc. (i think i got it at Wal Mart or K Mart). I
pump
> it up to full-steam; stick the nozzle into the hole leading into the
"nest", and
> let-'r-rip . . . All those "nests" are now defunct. I can only see one or
two
> "nests" now, but as i said (below), i probably got those remaining guys
(on the
> wing) in the foliage . . .
>
> I havenot gotten rid of all the little devils, but they are becoming less
and
> less. Today i sprayed them as they were at work in the foliage - hitting
them
> from below and above will wipe them out eventually - i am sure (i am
beginning
> to feel sorry for them).
>
> Pmini

How many, about 6 million bees should be gassed?

I had a friend who died on September 11, you freak. You support osama and
the attacks on September 11. You are worthless. There are no words.

http://paminifarm.jeeran.com/urls.html


tinker

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Jun 24, 2002, 11:29:37 PM6/24/02
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MKing98978 <mking...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20020624222241...@mb-cj.aol.com...

> I've been know to wait till night when they aren't as active, pour gasoline in
> the hole and light a match

I watched from a distance as someone made a neat crater by using
this method on an ant hill. Gasoline fumes are explosive. As in,
a few drops can do as much damage as a pound of dynamite. You
don't know how big the hole is or where it goes, so I would advise
caution.

If you were to use gasoline, it would be more effective to *not*
light a match.

a jewish carpenter's friend

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Jun 25, 2002, 2:21:49 AM6/25/02
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Pamini wrote:

>
> however i was told to spray
> the "NEST", which is what it is, at NIGHT,

> >In article <e2b319f9.02062...@posting.google.com>, Christopher
> >says...

> >Any ideas, other than calling an exterminator?


Call Paminifarm. He's acquainted with a number of exterminators.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/6/20/193909.shtml

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RamblinOn

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Jun 25, 2002, 5:54:10 AM6/25/02
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Christopher wrote:

clipped

> I've heard of using soapy water but I'm not sure what the mixture

I wouldn't advise the soapy water treatment for hornets, as the nests
can be huge and they are very dangerous. If you try it, it should be in
the evening when they are "quiet". We've used 2 Tbsp dish detergent to
a gallon of water; it was recommended as a means to find mole crickets.
Saturate the area, wait a few minutes, and bugs come to the surface
because the lower surface tension of the water causes them breathing
difficulty. Really interesting. Earthworms and other critters come to
surface, wriggling around and trying to escape. Ennyhoo, I've used
soapy water to try to drown a couple of carpenter ant nests burrowed
down big trunks of some hedges, and it seemed to work. If you've tried
flooding it, and using insecticide without results, I'd really get an
exterminator. If the insecticide didn't reach the bugs, soapy water
likely won't either.

They are known to attack (and kill people) in reaction to vibration
caused by lawn mowers or people walking into/onto the nests. In
Florida, there was a young child, and more recently an elderly man, who
died after mass sting attacks.

JBgoode

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Jun 25, 2002, 10:12:24 AM6/25/02
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"Vox Humana" <vhu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I'm not the original poster, but the OP said he had 2 entrances to
underground bee nests. Those entrances are holes which are tripping hazards.


Vox Humana

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Jun 25, 2002, 10:45:36 AM6/25/02
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"JBgoode" <jo...@ihateclownsSPAMMY.com> wrote in message
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His bees must be different than mine. The openings to any underground nests
that I have seen are no more than an inch in diameter.


J.C.

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Jun 25, 2002, 11:00:42 AM6/25/02
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When I was a kid in school, the Principle had a
board with a few little holes drilled in it for
aerodynamic purposes. It worked very well on me.
So, as we always have a BB or Yellow Jacket
problem, I made me one of those boards and
everytime I am accousted by one of these flying
menaces, I imagine it is my old Principle and I
send that sucker to kingdom come.

aj

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Jun 25, 2002, 11:17:01 AM6/25/02
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And for someone like yourself with a brain like a b.b. in a boxcar that
can be a definate mind tripper..

Have you ever given anyone a specific answer or definitive help
regarding any question posed in this forum? Think back..

Get lost.

sam

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Jun 25, 2002, 11:35:46 AM6/25/02
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<snip>

>They are known to attack (and kill people) in reaction to vibration
>caused by lawn mowers or people walking into/onto the nests. In
>Florida, there was a young child, and more recently an elderly man, who
>died after mass sting attacks.

Having been hit 29 times once last summer, I now carry an Epipen. It's
no freaking fun worrying about the little buggers getting me, so I
know "walk" the lawn once a week at sundown to see if they are moving
back in.

I used Sevin dust on one of the holes, gas on another. The sevin
seemed to work.

Lusciouss Lois

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Jun 25, 2002, 11:52:13 AM6/25/02
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Arty Boy wrote

>And for someone like yourself with a brain like a b.b. in a boxcar that can be
a definate mind tripper..
>

Is that the best you can do?

>Get lost.

Take you own advice.

Why don't you pick on somebody you own size?

ARTsama J Laden

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Jun 25, 2002, 12:03:38 PM6/25/02
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aj a...@thelinks.net wrote

>And for someone like yourself with a brain like a b.b. in a boxcar that
>can be a definate mind tripper

You're really swift fungus mouth.

Is that the best you can do?

You're not good enough to wipe
Aholedetectors butt.

Vox Humana

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"aj" <a...@thelinks.net> wrote in message
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Yep, I have.


RM2695

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Jun 25, 2002, 7:53:54 PM6/25/02
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Try some bleach down the hole.

klmok

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Jun 25, 2002, 8:25:37 PM6/25/02
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On 24 Jun 2002 09:44:55 -0700, bli...@aol.com (Christopher) wrote:

>I've discovered two bumble bee nests (or possibly one huge one) right
>next to my house. One entrance is under the driveway where it enters
>the garage, and under the walk right by the front door. The two
>entrances are about thirty feet apart and because of their locations
>the bees must be destroyed.
>

What about this. Make a chicken wire cage for each entrance and line
the inside of the cage with strips of sticky paper used for trapping
mice (or the weaker stuff used for flypaper.)

Steve Manes

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Jun 25, 2002, 9:29:18 PM6/25/02
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On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 21:27:09 GMT, "JerryMouse" <nos...@bisusa.com>
wrote:

>I don't think you have Bumble Bees (your friend). I think you have hornets
>(not your friend). Bees do not live in the ground - hornets do.

Honey bees don't but bumble bees do, usually in abandoned varmint
holes.

------------------------------------------=o&>o----
Steve Manes, Brooklyn, USA
www.magpie.com

John Gilmer

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Jun 26, 2002, 6:51:50 AM6/26/02
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"Christopher" <bli...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I've discovered two bumble bee nests (or possibly one huge one) right
> next to my house. One entrance is under the driveway where it enters
> the garage, and under the walk right by the front door. The two
> entrances are about thirty feet apart and because of their locations
> the bees must be destroyed.

A few cups of gasoline will kill most underground nesting insects. I
understand that the vapor drives out the oxygen and that's that.

I am sure there are all kinds of laws that say you should should not use
this method so don't use it.


K. Collier

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Jun 26, 2002, 8:59:20 PM6/26/02
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"John Gilmer" <gil...@crosslink.net> wrote in message
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Forget the laws... how about the fact that it is just plain stupid and it
pollutes the environment.

Mix up a bag of Redman chewing tobacco in two gallons of water (warm that
is). Let it sit overnight. Stir, and then spray/dump it in the hole.

Kevin


basil...@zotnet.net

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Jun 26, 2002, 10:05:16 PM6/26/02
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On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 00:59:20 GMT, "K. Collier"
<kcollie8...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> A few cups of gasoline will kill most underground nesting insects. I
>> understand that the vapor drives out the oxygen and that's that.
>>
>> I am sure there are all kinds of laws that say you should should not use
>> this method so don't use it.
>>
>>
>Forget the laws... how about the fact that it is just plain stupid and it
>pollutes the environment.
>
>Mix up a bag of Redman chewing tobacco in two gallons of water (warm that
>is). Let it sit overnight. Stir, and then spray/dump it in the hole.

Now talk about damaging to the environment....

The Other Harry

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Jun 26, 2002, 10:16:16 PM6/26/02
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[On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 00:59:20 GMT, "K. Collier"
<kcollie8...@earthlink.net> wrote:]

> Mix up a bag of Redman chewing tobacco in two gallons of water (warm that
> is). Let it sit overnight. Stir, and then spray/dump it in the hole.

I thought the thing to do was to draw up a plastic stacking chair,
chew the tabacci, and then spit into hole.

This is very confusing...

Harry ;)


Dick Wells

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Jun 27, 2002, 8:28:09 AM6/27/02
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Go to a homestore. Get a can of "Great Stuff" foam insulation or equivalent.
When night comes and the bees are not active foam into the holes. Problem
solved.

GW...@webtv.net

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Jun 28, 2002, 6:55:49 PM6/28/02
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Plug the holes!! Iv`e never seen a bee with a shovel.

K. Collier

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Jun 29, 2002, 12:45:24 PM6/29/02
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Tobacco breaks down into harmless stuff. Gasoline will contaminate ground
water and is not good.

<basil...@zotnet.net> wrote in message
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klmok

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Jun 30, 2002, 11:53:51 AM6/30/02
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On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:55:49 -0400 (EDT), GW...@webtv.net wrote:

>Plug the holes!! Iv`e never seen a bee with a shovel.
>

How then did they make - dig out their nest in the first place?

As for another idea what about using some sort of hose to direct auto
exhaust gas into the nest? Its hot and full of carbon monoxide that
should permeate every nook and crevice underground. Five minutes
should do it.

I think I did come across this method for getting rid of gophers.

GW...@webtv.net

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Jul 1, 2002, 11:18:15 PM7/1/02
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But I got to ask-how do they do it-They don`t have little paddle feet
lke a gopher-they don`t have shovels-it`s packed dirt-think maybe they
take over an existing hole?(from another creature)-Just wondering-but
you get the cigarLOL.

GW...@webtv.net

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Jul 1, 2002, 11:10:18 PM7/1/02
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I was waiting for that-LOL.

Dave Harnish

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Jul 6, 2002, 5:35:35 PM7/6/02
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Hi!

This may have been answered already, but I certainly have no
desire to read all the name-calling and flaming on this thread to
find out for sure, so...

Firstly, be sure you do it after dark, when all the bees are "home".
We do alot of this, especially with Yellowjackets in the banks around
our pond, and after dark is definitely best. And the cooler the air
temperature, the better.

I'd spray bee/wasp killer liberally down each hole at night, then
plug them closed to be sure the fumes stay down there. May take
more than one application, but this method has worked well around
here. WD-40 works very well too, especially if you can get it to
the nest directly, which doesn't sound likely in your case.

Hope this is of some help,

Dave Harnish
Dave's Repair Service
NE PA

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aj

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Dave Harnish wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> This may have been answered already, but I certainly have no
> desire to read all the name-calling and flaming on this thread to
> find out for sure, so...
>


killjoy.. can't stand the heat, get outa the kitchen.

relax, that was just a flicker flame.

diana....@gmail.com

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Jun 13, 2015, 6:28:40 PM6/13/15
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I think these are bumble bees on our patio. I dropped my Mom then was screaming to let me get her up because they were starting to swarm. They've been bumping against our windows for an hour. They're very aggressive and my Mom likes to go out so please tree huggers don't answer me. I don't want my elderly mother stung or myself. These need to die NOW! What do I do? I think they're living in our cracked cement patio.

Tony Hwang

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Jun 13, 2015, 6:31:06 PM6/13/15
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diana....@gmail.com wrote:
> I think these are bumble bees on our patio. I dropped my Mom then was screaming to let me get her up because they were starting to swarm. They've been bumping against our windows for an hour. They're very aggressive and my Mom likes to go out so please tree huggers don't answer me. I don't want my elderly mother stung or myself. These need to die NOW! What do I do? I think they're living in our cracked cement patio.
>
Find their hive and spray bomb. Make sure all are dead. Better do it
after dark so every bee is home.

Frank

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Jun 13, 2015, 7:04:08 PM6/13/15
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I've blasted them with the wasp spray even during the day.
Regular bees are no bother but yellow jackets, more of a wasp, can be a
real pain nesting in the ground or parts of the house and can sting
multiple times.

Uncle Monster

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Jun 13, 2015, 7:10:33 PM6/13/15
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On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 5:28:40 PM UTC-5, diana....@gmail.com wrote:
> I think these are bumble bees on our patio. I dropped my Mom then was screaming to let me get her up because they were starting to swarm. They've been bumping against our windows for an hour. They're very aggressive and my Mom likes to go out so please tree huggers don't answer me. I don't want my elderly mother stung or myself. These need to die NOW! What do I do? I think they're living in our cracked cement patio.

I wonder if the OP's bees are still around after 13 years? ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Bee Monster

bob haller

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Jun 13, 2015, 8:44:14 PM6/13/15
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the ground wasps are nasty......

one of my bad lifetime experiences:(

my dryer vent is in the back and got damaged by careless mower operator.. the vent comes out near ground level.

so i decided to replace it, had disconnected it inside went outside, sat on grass and started pulling it out it was all mangled.

when i found ouch, i got stung a lot. i had sat on a ground wasp nest.......

I took benadryl to prevent a bbad allergic reaction. came out later and probed the area with a long board, which i left laying at the entrance.

that night i poured gasoline into a bucket, and killed them all. no need to light the gasoline. the hyrdacarbons kill them fast.

although for about a week there were some flying around, presumably they werent home when i wiped out their nest.

a week later i replaced the dryer vent.

oh and i learned always look before sitting on grass

Pavel314

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Jun 14, 2015, 8:36:36 PM6/14/15
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On Monday, June 24, 2002 at 12:44:56 PM UTC-4, Christopher wrote:
> I've discovered two bumble bee nests (or possibly one huge one) right
> next to my house. One entrance is under the driveway where it enters
> the garage, and under the walk right by the front door. The two
> entrances are about thirty feet apart and because of their locations
> the bees must be destroyed.
>
> I've tried blasting the holes with wasp and hornet killer several
> times and it doesn't seem to make a difference. There is no bee
> killer that I've found. I've also flooded the holes a few times a day
> with a hose. The only good that seems to do is keep out bees that are
> returning to the nest. Once the hose is off and the water has soaked
> into the ground it's back to business for them as usual. Can't burn
> them out because the entrances are right next to the house.
>
> I've heard of using soapy water but I'm not sure what the mixture
> ratio should be and dumping a bucket full down the hole doesn't seem
> like it would do much good if the hose doesn't work.
>
> Any ideas, other than calling an exterminator?

I had a yellow jacket nest in my front yard years ago. My then young son stumbled across it and got severely stung; no lasting damage, thankfully.
The next evening, I poured gasoline down their entry hole and dropped in a match. No more problems.

bob haller

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Jun 14, 2015, 11:18:15 PM6/14/15
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no matchneeded the hydrocarbons kill everything.

its best to put the gas in a bucket for a quick kill and escape

Uncle Monster

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Jun 14, 2015, 11:58:42 PM6/14/15
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I always use the wasp-spray aerosol can that works from a distance. It will shoot a stream of instant acting insecticide more than 20 feet. ^_^

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Raid-Wasp-Hornet-Killer-17.5-oz/11027619

[8~{} Uncle Bug Monster

Rowan Pope

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Jun 15, 2015, 4:41:10 AM6/15/15
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I get these little bastards every year so I built a horizontal box fan on wheels with a 10 foot conduit handle.
Just roll the box fan over the nest entrance and let it run for a day or so. Problem solved.

Uncle Monster

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Jun 15, 2015, 4:56:58 AM6/15/15
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On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 5:28:40 PM UTC-5, diana....@gmail.com wrote:
> I think these are bumble bees on our patio. I dropped my Mom then was screaming to let me get her up because they were starting to swarm. They've been bumping against our windows for an hour. They're very aggressive and my Mom likes to go out so please tree huggers don't answer me. I don't want my elderly mother stung or myself. These need to die NOW! What do I do? I think they're living in our cracked cement patio.

Did they look like this? ^_^

http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/218923/80959847.jpg

[8~{} Uncle Bug Monster

Muggles

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Jun 15, 2015, 5:53:24 PM6/15/15
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When we had our backyard pool the wasps would occasionally go for a
drink of water and get stuck floating in the water. I got stung on my
collar bone because I didn't see it floating in the water and it tried
to use me to save itself. When I flinched, it stung me about 4 times
and then flew off! It felt like someone had shot me, it hurt so badly.

--
Maggie

Vandy Terre

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Jun 15, 2015, 6:26:04 PM6/15/15
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 15:28:35 -0700 (PDT),
diana....@gmail.com wrote:

>I think these are bumble bees on our patio. I dropped my Mom then was screaming to let me get her up because they were starting to swarm. They've been bumping against our windows for an hour. They're very aggressive and my Mom likes to go out so please tree huggers don't answer me. I don't want my elderly mother stung or myself. These need to die NOW! What do I do? I think they're living in our cracked cement patio.

We used small amounts of expanding insulation to
fill in opens and cavities where stinging insects
like to nest on the sides of the house. This may
also work in keeping nests from happening in a
patio floor. Sometimes my men folk don't bother
with any poison, just fill in with the spray
insulation until the buzzing stops.

notbob

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Jun 15, 2015, 6:33:00 PM6/15/15
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On 2015-06-15, Vandy Terre <vandy> wrote:

> We used small amounts of expanding insulation to
> fill in opens and cavities where stinging insects
> like to nest on the sides of the house.

Would you please be more specific? Sounds like something I could
use.

I've been using Raid foggers (org) and Raid Hornet/Wasp Spray. The
Raid spray works, unlike that green Walmart junk, which jes annoys the
wasps before they shake it off and fly away.

nb

Frank

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Jun 15, 2015, 6:38:30 PM6/15/15
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I had one sting me on my finger at our swim club and they had nothing to
put on it or take.

My finger was swollen by the time we got home and next day the whole
hand was swollen.

By the time I got to my doctor my wrist was swollen. It was like the
sting was going to overwhelm my whole body.

Doc gave me prednisone and antibiotic.

Now I always carry benadryl and have been stung since with only minor
swelling.

Still the wasp spray knocks them down or they do not sting and I find it
OK to spray any time.

Frank

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Jun 15, 2015, 6:44:30 PM6/15/15
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Yellow jacket wasps are often mistaken for bees:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_jacket

They like fruit and you better keep your beer covered when they are
around. My wife swigged one in a glass of wine once and it stung her
tongue.

rbowman

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Jun 15, 2015, 9:20:05 PM6/15/15
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On 06/15/2015 04:44 PM, Frank wrote:
> Yellow jacket wasps are often mistaken for bees:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_jacket

There isn't much similarity other than they both have wings...

> They like fruit and you better keep your beer covered when they are
> around. My wife swigged one in a glass of wine once and it stung her
> tongue.

They'll eat meat too. I've shared supper with them a few times, being
mindful of where the wasp is before I take the next mouthful.

Unquestionably Confused

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Jun 15, 2015, 10:40:30 PM6/15/15
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An interesting (and very desirable) side effect of the Raid Wasp &
Hornet spray...

When they re-roofed the garage and shop, they installed new air vents.
For some reason the wasps/yellow jackets never bothered to nest there
with the old ones but they sure loved the new ones. Moved cars out from
beneath the vents and gave the vents a healthy (read DRENCHING) of Raid
at sundown when the nest was full. Little bastards all died and NEVER
came back. That was about 9 years ago. The nest are still there but no
more bugs.

Seems to permanently send them off somewhere else.

Oren

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Jun 16, 2015, 12:37:07 PM6/16/15
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:53:21 -0500, Muggles <" xyz"@pdq.invalid>
wrote:

>When we had our backyard pool the wasps would occasionally go for a
>drink of water and get stuck floating in the water. I got stung on my
>collar bone because I didn't see it floating in the water and it tried
>to use me to save itself. When I flinched, it stung me about 4 times
>and then flew off! It felt like someone had shot me, it hurt so badly.

It could've been worse :)

<http://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-couple-finds-alligator-taking-dip-backyard-pool/story?id=23761539>
--
"People who worry about crocodiles are smart!" -Joe Machi

Frank

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Jun 16, 2015, 12:58:42 PM6/16/15
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There was some junk wasp spray I bought at Walmart that just annoyed
them. I had a carpenter bee boring into a board around my garage and
spray would not kill it. Finally got it with another insecticide.

Uncle Monster

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Jun 16, 2015, 1:01:23 PM6/16/15
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I find it odd that gators aren't repelled by the chlorine in a swimming pool. I wonder how an alligator would react to pool shock in the water? o_O

[8~{} Uncle Gator Monster

Oren

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Jun 16, 2015, 1:10:56 PM6/16/15
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"...Alligator eyes have two sets of eyelids. The outer lids are like
human eyelids. They are made of skin and close top-to-bottom. The
inner lids are clear and close back-to-front. While an alligator is
sitting about or swimming, these inner eyelids protect the alligator's
eyes and provide clearer vision in the underwater environment."

<http://animals.howstuffworks.com/reptiles/alligator2.htm>

And tough hides, so doubtful pool chemicals will irritate them.

Uncle Monster

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Jun 16, 2015, 2:55:59 PM6/16/15
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But they're going to get water in their mouth and nose. I suppose the nictitating membranes would protect the eyes under water but what happens when they're above water and blink? Heck, I've been irritated by chlorine in swimming pools and I'm Trans-Human. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Gator Monster

Oren

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Jun 16, 2015, 3:05:58 PM6/16/15
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No. "...When swimming underwater, alligators are water tight. Flaps
close off the ears and nostrils, the inner eyelids protect the eyes
and a special flap called the palatal valve closes at the back of the
throat to keep water out of the throat, stomach and lungs. Alligators
can stay underwater for quite a while. A typical dive might last 10 to
20 minutes. In a pinch, an alligator can stay underwater for two hours
if it is at rest. And, in very cold water, an alligator can last up to
eight hours submerged." Same link as above :)

<http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/alligator-palatal-valve.jpg>

Amazing creatures. They have caves under river banks, where they can
hide, even storing food.

Vandy Terre

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Jun 16, 2015, 3:07:21 PM6/16/15
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On 15 Jun 2015 22:32:55 GMT, notbob
<not...@nothome.com> wrote:

>On 2015-06-15, Vandy Terre <vandy> wrote:
>
>> We used small amounts of expanding insulation to
>> fill in opens and cavities where stinging insects
>> like to nest on the sides of the house.
>
>Would you please be more specific? Sounds like something I could
>use.

Not sure what information you need. Expanding foam
insulation comes in spray can under several
different names. We just put the applicator
nozzle into the opening being used by the insects
and spray until full. This improves the wall
insulation, closes opening used by pest insects,
and smothers any insects inside the wall.

I have seen this product used to fill holes in
concrete block walls as a means to fill holes to
keep pest insects out and to improve insulation
factor.

Stormin Mormon

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Jun 16, 2015, 5:21:27 PM6/16/15
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On 6/16/2015 12:58 PM, Frank wrote:
> There was some junk wasp spray I bought at Walmart that just annoyed
> them. I had a carpenter bee boring into a board around my garage and
> spray would not kill it. Finally got it with another insecticide.

Two or three years ago, I met some wasps that
just shrugged off any spray including the black
and white can stuff from Home Depot.

Powdered Sevin did the job.

-
.
Christopher A. Young
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.
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Vandy Terre

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Jun 23, 2015, 10:31:45 PM6/23/15
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On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:21:28 -0400, Stormin Mormon
<cayo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Two or three years ago, I met some wasps that
>just shrugged off any spray including the black
>and white can stuff from Home Depot.
>
>Powdered Sevin did the job.
>
>Christopher A. Young

Be wary using any powdered insecticide. Powders
can be picked up by honeybees in place of pollen.
This can kill the entire hive. Which could mean
people going hungry from lack of crops being
pollinated.

Stormin Mormon

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Jun 23, 2015, 10:47:11 PM6/23/15
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And, how would I know one way or the other? You
suggest to "be wary". I'm curious how would I
or the Facilities Management Group, know how to
do this safely? We do have farms around, though
not for several miles away from the meeting house
where I attend.

Vandy Terre

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Jul 4, 2015, 8:45:46 PM7/4/15
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:47:29 -0400, Stormin Mormon
<cayo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/23/2015 10:31 PM, Vandy Terre wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:21:28 -0400, Stormin Mormon
>> <cayo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Two or three years ago, I met some wasps that
>>> just shrugged off any spray including the black
>>> and white can stuff from Home Depot.
>>>
>>> Powdered Sevin did the job.
>>>
>>> Christopher A. Young
>>
>> Be wary using any powdered insecticide. Powders
>> can be picked up by honeybees in place of pollen.
>> This can kill the entire hive. Which could mean
>> people going hungry from lack of crops being
>> pollinated.
>>
>And, how would I know one way or the other? You
>suggest to "be wary". I'm curious how would I
>or the Facilities Management Group, know how to
>do this safely? We do have farms around, though
>not for several miles away from the meeting house
>where I attend.

If you really feel the need to use powdered
pesticides. Do not use powdered pesticides on
flowering crops. If pesticide must be used, use
it at night. Avoid using more product than
needed.

Honey bees tend to travel about five miles from
nest. Honey bees are day time only. Which means
use of any pesticide should be at night to reduce
damage to honey bees.

Honey bees are not native to the USA. Bees were
an early import by European settlers. Native
Americans called honey bees 'White Man's Fly'.
There are other pollinators in our environment but
they do not get the job done as well as honey
bees.

Tiki torches can go a long way to reducing night
time pests like moths, mosquitoes, flies, leaf
hoppers, June bugs, fruit flies. Set tiki torch
in good support such that it can not be blown or
knock over. Use only enough fuel to burn for
about two hours. Light at full dark. Have
someone keep a watch on the torches to prevent
fire damage beyond insects death.

mcglot...@gmail.com

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Jun 1, 2019, 12:24:02 AM6/1/19
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Bumblebee's do nest in the ground as well as other bee's, bumblebee's are on endangered species list.

grus...@gmail.com

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On Monday, June 24, 2002 at 2:27:09 PM UTC-7, JerryMouse wrote:
> "Christopher" <bli...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:e2b319f9.02062...@posting.google.com...
> > I've discovered two bumble bee nests (or possibly one huge one) right
> > next to my house. One entrance is under the driveway where it enters
> > the garage, and under the walk right by the front door. The two
> > entrances are about thirty feet apart and because of their locations
> > the bees must be destroyed.
> >
> > I've tried blasting the holes with wasp and hornet killer several
> > times and it doesn't seem to make a difference. There is no bee
> > killer that I've found. I've also flooded the holes a few times a day
> > with a hose. The only good that seems to do is keep out bees that are
> > returning to the nest. Once the hose is off and the water has soaked
> > into the ground it's back to business for them as usual. Can't burn
> > them out because the entrances are right next to the house.
> >
> > I've heard of using soapy water but I'm not sure what the mixture
> > ratio should be and dumping a bucket full down the hole doesn't seem
> > like it would do much good if the hose doesn't work.
> >
> > Any ideas, other than calling an exterminator?
>
> I don't think you have Bumble Bees (your friend). I think you have hornets
> (not your friend). Bees do not live in the ground - hornets do.
>
> Ground hornets hollow out a space underground then build the classic hornet
> 'football' nest in the hollowed-out space (which may explain why flooding
> doesn't help).
>
> Hornets are way meaner than bees and don't die when they sting you. They are
> also much more aggressive. They exist by killing small dogs and carrying the
> carcasses back to the nest for an obscene feast.
>
> You can wait until night (so the survivors don't recognize you) and fill the
> holes with Hornet-Hurt. Or call an exterminator. Or move.
>
> Good luck.

70% percent of bees live in the ground.

Todesco

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Aug 8, 2020, 8:07:43 AM8/8/20
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I did this. Wait til night and pour some gasoline in the hole. That's
it, all gone.

Snag

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Aug 8, 2020, 8:31:56 AM8/8/20
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That's how i get rid of yellow jacket nests . Put a rock or something
over the hole after you pour in the gas so they can't escape .
--
Snag

rbowman

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Aug 8, 2020, 3:19:01 PM8/8/20
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Do you throw a match in before you put a rock over the hole?

Peeler

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Aug 8, 2020, 3:54:43 PM8/8/20
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On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 13:18:59 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


>> That's how i get rid of yellow jacket nests . Put a rock or something
>> over the hole after you pour in the gas so they can't escape .
>
> Do you throw a match in before you put a rock over the hole?

I'd like to do that to your mouth, blabbermouth! Poor in some gas and then
light it with a match.

Todesco

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Aug 9, 2020, 6:35:29 AM8/9/20
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No and No. Just the gas. As it was night, none tried to escape. I
think I tamped down the hole a bit with my foot.
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