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Steven L.
Feb 6, 2013, 9:27:55 AM2/6/13
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I live in an apartment, and the living room ceiling near the deck has a
rain leak: During the biggest rainstorms, some water drips down onto my
carpet from one particular spot on the ceiling. There's a stain on the
ceiling there too.
I've had the maintenance people in my apartment twice, but so far they
have failed to fix the problem. They'll have to try again next week.
While they're still trying to figure it out, is there some *temporary*
fix I can use to stop the water from dripping from the ceiling every
time there's a big storm?
Silicone caulk?
Rope caulk?
Anything else?
--
Steven L.
rain leak: During the biggest rainstorms, some water drips down onto my
carpet from one particular spot on the ceiling. There's a stain on the
ceiling there too.
I've had the maintenance people in my apartment twice, but so far they
have failed to fix the problem. They'll have to try again next week.
While they're still trying to figure it out, is there some *temporary*
fix I can use to stop the water from dripping from the ceiling every
time there's a big storm?
Silicone caulk?
Rope caulk?
Anything else?
--
Steven L.
Stormin Mormon
Feb 6, 2013, 9:55:14 AM2/6/13
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From what I've learned of roof leaks, you ought not try to patch it from
indoors. Then, the water will collect in the ceiling and create worse
problems.
I'd patch it the roof. Or clear indoor floor, and put down buckets. Put a
towel in the bucket, so the water doesn't bounce, splash up and out.
Christopher A. Young
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indoors. Then, the water will collect in the ceiling and create worse
problems.
I'd patch it the roof. Or clear indoor floor, and put down buckets. Put a
towel in the bucket, so the water doesn't bounce, splash up and out.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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Dan Espen
Feb 6, 2013, 10:10:18 AM2/6/13
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"Steven L." <sdli...@earthlink.net> writes:
> I live in an apartment, and the living room ceiling near the deck has
> a rain leak: During the biggest rainstorms, some water drips down
> onto my carpet from one particular spot on the ceiling. There's a
> stain on the ceiling there too.
>
> I've had the maintenance people in my apartment twice, but so far they
> have failed to fix the problem. They'll have to try again next week.
>
> While they're still trying to figure it out, is there some *temporary*
> fix I can use to stop the water from dripping from the ceiling every
> time there's a big storm?
Nope, must be fixed on the roof.
> I live in an apartment, and the living room ceiling near the deck has
> a rain leak: During the biggest rainstorms, some water drips down
> onto my carpet from one particular spot on the ceiling. There's a
> stain on the ceiling there too.
>
> I've had the maintenance people in my apartment twice, but so far they
> have failed to fix the problem. They'll have to try again next week.
>
> While they're still trying to figure it out, is there some *temporary*
> fix I can use to stop the water from dripping from the ceiling every
> time there's a big storm?
Use a bucket.
--
Dan Espen
tra...@optonline.net
Feb 6, 2013, 10:34:00 AM2/6/13
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On Feb 6, 9:55 am, "Stormin Mormon"
It's getting into the ceiling from outside. How on earth could you
stop it at the ceiling? Regardless of what you tried to do, the
water would still be coming in. If anything you could make the
problem worse, because the water will just pool up until it
finds another place to go. That could be 5 ft away and then you
have a new leak and a screwed ceiling in between. Just put
a bucket under it until they fix it.
<cayoung61***spambl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> From what I've learned of roof leaks, you ought not try to patch it from
> indoors. Then, the water will collect in the ceiling and create worse
> problems.
>
> I'd patch it the roof. Or clear indoor floor, and put down buckets. Put a
> towel in the bucket, so the water doesn't bounce, splash up and out.
>
+1
> From what I've learned of roof leaks, you ought not try to patch it from
> indoors. Then, the water will collect in the ceiling and create worse
> problems.
>
> I'd patch it the roof. Or clear indoor floor, and put down buckets. Put a
> towel in the bucket, so the water doesn't bounce, splash up and out.
>
It's getting into the ceiling from outside. How on earth could you
stop it at the ceiling? Regardless of what you tried to do, the
water would still be coming in. If anything you could make the
problem worse, because the water will just pool up until it
finds another place to go. That could be 5 ft away and then you
have a new leak and a screwed ceiling in between. Just put
a bucket under it until they fix it.
Tegger
Feb 6, 2013, 11:09:41 AM2/6/13
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"Steven L." <sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote in
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way of the water, and out of the way of the eventual collapse of the
ceiling's sheetrock. Quite a bit can come down at once, so clear a large
area.
About the only temporary fudge-fix I can think of is to try and re-direct
the water so it runs off to the side. You may be able to affix a sheet of
heavy plastic (e.g.: vapor barrier) to the ceiling inboard of the leak, and
slope it down, off to the side, and into a bucket. But that may be more
trouble than it's worth.
--
Tegger
Steven L.
Feb 6, 2013, 11:18:28 AM2/6/13
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On 2/6/2013 11:09 AM, Tegger wrote:
> "Steven L." <sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:ReadnVYfPsMy9Y_M...@earthlink.com:
>
>> I live in an apartment, and the living room ceiling near the deck has a
>> rain leak: During the biggest rainstorms, some water drips down onto my
>> carpet from one particular spot on the ceiling. There's a stain on the
>> ceiling there too.
>>
>> I've had the maintenance people in my apartment twice, but so far they
>> have failed to fix the problem. They'll have to try again next week.
>>
>> While they're still trying to figure it out, is there some *temporary*
>> fix I can use to stop the water from dripping from the ceiling every
>> time there's a big storm?
>>
>> Silicone caulk?
>> Rope caulk?
>> Anything else?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Others have given you good advice (bucket). Move any possessions out of the
> way of the water, and out of the way of the eventual collapse of the
> ceiling's sheetrock. Quite a bit can come down at once, so clear a large
> area.
Well, there goes my home entertainment center. :-(
> "Steven L." <sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:ReadnVYfPsMy9Y_M...@earthlink.com:
>
>> I live in an apartment, and the living room ceiling near the deck has a
>> rain leak: During the biggest rainstorms, some water drips down onto my
>> carpet from one particular spot on the ceiling. There's a stain on the
>> ceiling there too.
>>
>> I've had the maintenance people in my apartment twice, but so far they
>> have failed to fix the problem. They'll have to try again next week.
>>
>> While they're still trying to figure it out, is there some *temporary*
>> fix I can use to stop the water from dripping from the ceiling every
>> time there's a big storm?
>>
>> Silicone caulk?
>> Rope caulk?
>> Anything else?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Others have given you good advice (bucket). Move any possessions out of the
> way of the water, and out of the way of the eventual collapse of the
> ceiling's sheetrock. Quite a bit can come down at once, so clear a large
> area.
I had better move my TV, DVR, etc., completely out of that corner of the
room.
--
Steven L.
Doug
Feb 6, 2013, 11:43:34 AM2/6/13
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You might want to pull up the rug (if possible) if underneath is
absorbing water to prevent smell and structural problems. And best
not to alter anything so the roof guys can see what has taken place
over time.
Tegger
Feb 6, 2013, 11:45:31 AM2/6/13
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"Steven L." <sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote in
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>
> Well, there goes my home entertainment center. :-(
>
> I had better move my TV, DVR, etc., completely out of that corner of
> the room.
>
>
>
the ceiling is built and how much rain falls, water can actually puddle up
there. And when the drywall finally falls down, that puddle can splash/soak
a large area.
Better read up on your home-contents insurance as well. Your landlord's
insurance almost certainly /won't/ cover your possessions.
--
Tegger
Doug
Feb 6, 2013, 11:52:11 AM2/6/13
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flashing just above the doorway outside. If so, you might want to
caulk around it and see if this helps.
TomR
Feb 6, 2013, 1:17:35 PM2/6/13
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is now dripping from. That may help let the water out from the ceiling so
it doesn't build up and get heavy and cause the sheetrock to collapse as
others mentioned. And, hopefully with the hole you can direct the water to
drop directly into the bucket below.
But, still move you belongings from the area below if possible.
Steven L.
Feb 6, 2013, 1:41:44 PM2/6/13
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near the wall. I might be able to catch it with a funnel that I'll tape
to the wall.
It sounds like it's actually better to let the water drip out, rather
than try to seal it up in the ceiling!
--
Steven L.
Steven L.
Feb 6, 2013, 1:44:23 PM2/6/13
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right near the wall where my deck is.
If there's a crack or crevice in the outside wall, it may be right
behind the deck of the apartment above me: The water pools on the
upstairs deck and then seeps down through the wall into my apartment.
Fixing that is a big job.
--
Steven L.
Stormin Mormon
Feb 6, 2013, 2:12:52 PM2/6/13
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Yes, that's for sure.
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Oren
Feb 6, 2013, 2:18:05 PM2/6/13
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ways. Down a roofing truss and over X feet, across a pipe or wire
etc., before it drops on the ceiling.
denni...@gmail.com
Feb 6, 2013, 2:40:51 PM2/6/13
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On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 11:18:28 AM UTC-5, Steven L. wrote:
> Well, there goes my home entertainment center. :-(
>
> I had better move my TV, DVR, etc., completely out of that corner of the
> room.
Yes, you should.
> Well, there goes my home entertainment center. :-(
>
> I had better move my TV, DVR, etc., completely out of that corner of the
> room.
denni...@gmail.com
Feb 6, 2013, 2:43:18 PM2/6/13
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On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 1:44:23 PM UTC-5, Steven L. wrote:
> Fixing that is a big job.
Luckily, it's not your problem. It's up to the landlord to fix, and if he doesn't fix it then you call the housing authority, and if he still doesn't fix it you can claim breach of lease and move.
> Fixing that is a big job.
Metspitzer
Feb 6, 2013, 2:52:01 PM2/6/13
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:27:55 -0500, "Steven L."
<sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I live in an apartment, and the living room ceiling near the deck has a
>rain leak: During the biggest rainstorms, some water drips down onto my
>carpet from one particular spot on the ceiling. There's a stain on the
>ceiling there too.
>
>I've had the maintenance people in my apartment twice, but so far they
>have failed to fix the problem. They'll have to try again next week.
>
>While they're still trying to figure it out, is there some *temporary*
>fix I can use to stop the water from dripping from the ceiling every
>time there's a big storm?
>
Maintenance should put a tarp on the roof.
<sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I live in an apartment, and the living room ceiling near the deck has a
>rain leak: During the biggest rainstorms, some water drips down onto my
>carpet from one particular spot on the ceiling. There's a stain on the
>ceiling there too.
>
>I've had the maintenance people in my apartment twice, but so far they
>have failed to fix the problem. They'll have to try again next week.
>
>While they're still trying to figure it out, is there some *temporary*
>fix I can use to stop the water from dripping from the ceiling every
>time there's a big storm?
>
Tegger
Feb 6, 2013, 2:54:42 PM2/6/13
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"Steven L." <sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote in
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>
> It sounds like it's actually better to let the water drip out, rather
> than try to seal it up in the ceiling!
>
ceiling! This is your landlord's problem, not yours. If he sees that you've
poked a hole in the ceiling and the ceiling later falls in, he may accuse
you of having precipitated the collapse through your action. The accusation
may be groundless, but it may lead to hard feelings, or worse. The last
thing you want in a rental relationship.
Move your stuff, then leave the situation alone and let it do what it wants
to do. If the leak never gets fixed, consult a paralegal as to your legal
options.
--
Tegger
TomR
Feb 6, 2013, 4:19:42 PM2/6/13
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Tegger wrote:
> "Steven L." <sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:xP6dnWyOsb61OY_M...@earthlink.com:
>>
>> It sounds like it's actually better to let the water drip out, rather
>> than try to seal it up in the ceiling!
>>
> Yes, it is better to let it drip. But don't go making any holes in the
> ceiling! This is your landlord's problem, not yours. If he sees that
> you've poked a hole in the ceiling and the ceiling later falls in, he
> may accuse you of having precipitated the collapse through your
> action. The accusation may be groundless, but it may lead to hard
> feelings, or worse. . . .
> "Steven L." <sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:xP6dnWyOsb61OY_M...@earthlink.com:
>>
>> It sounds like it's actually better to let the water drip out, rather
>> than try to seal it up in the ceiling!
>>
> Yes, it is better to let it drip. But don't go making any holes in the
> ceiling! This is your landlord's problem, not yours. If he sees that
> you've poked a hole in the ceiling and the ceiling later falls in, he
> may accuse you of having precipitated the collapse through your
> action. The accusation may be groundless, but it may lead to hard
I guess that's possible, but if all you do is make a small hole -- maybe 1/4
inch or less -- I don't see you having any problem. If you have a digital
camera, take a few pictures now, and again after you put the small hole in.
Or, you could wait until it rains again and starts dripping and call them
again. If you can get them to come out then, ask them to put a small hole
there so the water will drip out into a bucket rather than building up in
the ceiling and/or wall. And, of course, keep notes or records of any
contacts you made with the landlord and/or maintenance company and when they
came out etc.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Feb 6, 2013, 5:23:06 PM2/6/13
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cl...@snyder.on.ca
Feb 6, 2013, 5:31:28 PM2/6/13
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:41:44 -0500, "Steven L."
<sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>>>> next week. While they're still trying to figure it out, is there some
Steven- are you an the top loor - roof leak, or lower down - wall or
<sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>>>> next week. While they're still trying to figure it out, is there some
door leak?? Poured concrete construction or wood-framed floors?
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Feb 6, 2013, 5:32:59 PM2/6/13
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:44:23 -0500, "Steven L."
So definitely NOT a roof leak. It will likely be a caulking issue -
and possibly a drainage issue on the balcony above as well. Not easy
to find at the best of times.
and possibly a drainage issue on the balcony above as well. Not easy
to find at the best of times.
Norminn
Feb 6, 2013, 6:12:58 PM2/6/13
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On 2/6/2013 11:09 AM, Tegger wrote:
crashing down. I would pester the daylights out of the owner (or
management company?!) Is the roof obviously in bad condition? Live in
a condo?
Steven L.
Feb 6, 2013, 7:06:13 PM2/6/13
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My ceiling probably has another 48 hours to live.
Unless dry snow doesn't get into that crack as easily as liquid water can.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
--
Steven L.
Steven L.
Feb 6, 2013, 7:11:35 PM2/6/13
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The ceiling is leaking right near the wall where the left side of my
deck is.
I suspect that rainwater is pooling on the deck of the apartment above
mine, and then seeping through some crack in the outside wall there down
onto my ceiling.
I went out onto the deck to take a look. Sure enough, the mortar
between several of the bricks in the outside wall just below the
upstairs deck is gone. Completely worn away, leaving some big holes. I
tried caulking those as best I could.
One of the maintenance guys promised me he'll try to fix it again
tomorrow.
Because we're getting a major blizzard on Friday (1-2 feet of snow).
And when THAT snow melts and seeps into the wall, my ceiling is doomed.
--
Steven L.
Steven L.
Feb 6, 2013, 7:44:29 PM2/6/13
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That's the third try.
We're about to get a big Nor'easter storm on Friday.
If my ceiling collapses--after *three* attempts by the maintenance
people to fix this--do I have any legal recourse?
I mean it's not just the physical damage that a collapsed ceiling will
do. It's also that there's probably a ton of mold/mildew already up
there from the moisture, and with the ceiling gone, now I'm going to be
breathing in all that crap as well. I have sinus and bronchitis
problems already, and I don't need to be breathing in what is likely to
be found up there!
--
Steven L.
k...@attt.bizz
Feb 6, 2013, 7:49:46 PM2/6/13
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lease if they can't fix a leak.
Doug
Feb 6, 2013, 11:45:45 PM2/6/13
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floor becomes unsafe to walk upon, etc... then the OP may have a
case to break the lease. Hopefully this is covered in his lease. It
is in Texas std. apt or residential leases.
Another option if the OP wants, is to ask the manager if he can
relocate into another unit either permanently or until the leak is
fixed. Some managers will accomodate the tenant if a unit is
available.
Oren
Feb 7, 2013, 12:32:40 AM2/7/13
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 22:45:45 -0600, Doug <do...@noemailaddress.com>
wrote:
>Another option if the OP wants, is to ask the manager if he can
>relocate into another unit either permanently or until the leak is
>fixed. Some managers will accomodate the tenant if a unit is
>available.
Will the manager pay for the move and then back? They should as the
landlord should be on this fix - right now and before yesterday.
If it was me I would be having an eyeball to eyeball with the person
in charge. I would get answers in my favor.
wrote:
>Another option if the OP wants, is to ask the manager if he can
>relocate into another unit either permanently or until the leak is
>fixed. Some managers will accomodate the tenant if a unit is
>available.
landlord should be on this fix - right now and before yesterday.
If it was me I would be having an eyeball to eyeball with the person
in charge. I would get answers in my favor.
Norminn
Feb 7, 2013, 4:52:25 AM2/7/13
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clipped
renter is excused from breaking the lease....damned if I'd stay in a
rental with leaky ceiling without raising heck :o)
>>
>> It's an apartment, right? Move! They certainly can't hold you to a
>> lease if they can't fix a leak.
>
>
> Likely WRONG advice at this point but if the ceiling collapses or
> floor becomes unsafe to walk upon, etc... then the OP may have a
> case to break the lease. Hopefully this is covered in his lease. It
> is in Texas std. apt or residential leases.
>
> Another option if the OP wants, is to ask the manager if he can
> relocate into another unit either permanently or until the leak is
> fixed. Some managers will accomodate the tenant if a unit is
> available.
>
There might also be local code re repairs to rental homes and when the
>> It's an apartment, right? Move! They certainly can't hold you to a
>> lease if they can't fix a leak.
>
>
> Likely WRONG advice at this point but if the ceiling collapses or
> floor becomes unsafe to walk upon, etc... then the OP may have a
> case to break the lease. Hopefully this is covered in his lease. It
> is in Texas std. apt or residential leases.
>
> Another option if the OP wants, is to ask the manager if he can
> relocate into another unit either permanently or until the leak is
> fixed. Some managers will accomodate the tenant if a unit is
> available.
>
renter is excused from breaking the lease....damned if I'd stay in a
rental with leaky ceiling without raising heck :o)
home...@home.com
Feb 7, 2013, 5:26:32 AM2/7/13
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:41:44 -0500, "Steven L." <sdli...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>Yes, the water tends to drip from a spot on the ceiling that's right
>near the wall. I might be able to catch it with a funnel that I'll tape
>to the wall.
>
>It sounds like it's actually better to let the water drip out, rather
>than try to seal it up in the ceiling!
>
If you were able to seal it too well, the whole attic would fill with
water and eventually collapse the whole structure. That could really
suck! However, you'd never seal it that good.
So far no one has mentioned going into the attic when it's raining, and
putting a bucket up there where the water is coming in, and while you're
at it, take a marker and mark the spot on the underside of the roof
where the water is coming in. That might help the maintenance people
find the leak. It dont sound like they are too bright anyhow.
You might suggest to the landlord that he find some better maintenance
people, or hire some real roofers. And while you're at it, explain that
you could find another place to live if this continues, because it's
damaging your __xxxxxx__.
wrote:
>Yes, the water tends to drip from a spot on the ceiling that's right
>near the wall. I might be able to catch it with a funnel that I'll tape
>to the wall.
>
>It sounds like it's actually better to let the water drip out, rather
>than try to seal it up in the ceiling!
>
water and eventually collapse the whole structure. That could really
suck! However, you'd never seal it that good.
So far no one has mentioned going into the attic when it's raining, and
putting a bucket up there where the water is coming in, and while you're
at it, take a marker and mark the spot on the underside of the roof
where the water is coming in. That might help the maintenance people
find the leak. It dont sound like they are too bright anyhow.
You might suggest to the landlord that he find some better maintenance
people, or hire some real roofers. And while you're at it, explain that
you could find another place to live if this continues, because it's
damaging your __xxxxxx__.
Doug
Feb 7, 2013, 7:42:00 AM2/7/13
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 04:52:25 -0500, Norminn <nor...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
The landlord is sending the repairman multiple times so it sounds like
the landlord is trying. I don't think getting mad at the landlord is
going to help but asking to relocate might be an option.
As to the cost to relocate, I suppose you can ask but not sure if the
landlord is legally responsible for this. In Texas, the property code
spells out when you can break a lease without legal consequences.
wrote:
the landlord is trying. I don't think getting mad at the landlord is
going to help but asking to relocate might be an option.
As to the cost to relocate, I suppose you can ask but not sure if the
landlord is legally responsible for this. In Texas, the property code
spells out when you can break a lease without legal consequences.
Stormin Mormon
Feb 7, 2013, 7:47:12 AM2/7/13
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IIRC, Steve mentioned it looks like the problem is the level above him, the
window porch collects water, which is coming in the wall. So, going into the
attic won't be much help.
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window porch collects water, which is coming in the wall. So, going into the
attic won't be much help.
<home...@home.com> wrote in message
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Norminn
Feb 7, 2013, 9:52:04 AM2/7/13
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On 2/7/2013 7:42 AM, Doug wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 04:52:25 -0500, Norminn <nor...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> clipped
>>>>
>>>> It's an apartment, right? Move! They certainly can't hold you to a
>>>> lease if they can't fix a leak.
>>>
>>>
>>> Likely WRONG advice at this point but if the ceiling collapses or
>>> floor becomes unsafe to walk upon, etc... then the OP may have a
>>> case to break the lease. Hopefully this is covered in his lease. It
>>> is in Texas std. apt or residential leases.
>>>
>>> Another option if the OP wants, is to ask the manager if he can
>>> relocate into another unit either permanently or until the leak is
>>> fixed. Some managers will accomodate the tenant if a unit is
>>> available.
>>>
>>
>> There might also be local code re repairs to rental homes and when the
>> renter is excused from breaking the lease....damned if I'd stay in a
>> rental with leaky ceiling without raising heck :o)
>
> The landlord is sending the repairman multiple times so it sounds like
> the landlord is trying. I don't think getting mad at the landlord is
> going to help but asking to relocate might be an option.
OP didn't say who sent the maintenance people (or I didn't read the post
> On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 04:52:25 -0500, Norminn <nor...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> clipped
>>>>
>>>> It's an apartment, right? Move! They certainly can't hold you to a
>>>> lease if they can't fix a leak.
>>>
>>>
>>> Likely WRONG advice at this point but if the ceiling collapses or
>>> floor becomes unsafe to walk upon, etc... then the OP may have a
>>> case to break the lease. Hopefully this is covered in his lease. It
>>> is in Texas std. apt or residential leases.
>>>
>>> Another option if the OP wants, is to ask the manager if he can
>>> relocate into another unit either permanently or until the leak is
>>> fixed. Some managers will accomodate the tenant if a unit is
>>> available.
>>>
>>
>> There might also be local code re repairs to rental homes and when the
>> renter is excused from breaking the lease....damned if I'd stay in a
>> rental with leaky ceiling without raising heck :o)
>
> The landlord is sending the repairman multiple times so it sounds like
> the landlord is trying. I don't think getting mad at the landlord is
> going to help but asking to relocate might be an option.
that indicated that)....I didn't suggest beating up the landlord, but if
one understands the possible consequences of the leak continuing, then
I'd be on his case and persist :o) I've encountered some really lousy
landlords, so there are lots of possibilities...sounds like an older
building....an old retiree owner with a crank "handyman", or realestate
holding co. with another co. managing? Highly unwise for an owner to
hire hacks who don't properly handle water leaks.
>
> As to the cost to relocate, I suppose you can ask but not sure if the
> landlord is legally responsible for this. In Texas, the property code
> spells out when you can break a lease without legal consequences.
>
Even with code clearly on the side of the renter doesn't mean things go
> As to the cost to relocate, I suppose you can ask but not sure if the
> landlord is legally responsible for this. In Texas, the property code
> spells out when you can break a lease without legal consequences.
>
well :o)
tra...@optonline.net
Feb 7, 2013, 9:55:06 AM2/7/13
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On Feb 7, 7:42 am, Doug <d...@noemailaddress.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 04:52:25 -0500, Norminn <norm...@earthlink.net>
from one apartment to another because of one small
leak in the ceiling that can be contained with a bucket?
That to me is far more disruptivde than having a bucket
around until the leak can be located and fixed. And it
doesn't make any sense from the landlord perspective
either. The leak has to be fixed or they can't rent it to
someone else.
Locating it is the problem. It sounds like it's a leak
from some point on an exterior wall, not a roof leak.
Those can be hard to find and it's not unusual for it
to take several attempts to solve it, even when the
landlord is doing all the right things.
>
> As to the cost to relocate, I suppose you can ask but not sure if the
> landlord is legally responsible for this. In Texas, the property code
> spells out when you can break a lease without legal consequences.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
> On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 04:52:25 -0500, Norminn <norm...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >clipped
>
> >>> It's an apartment, right? Move! They certainly can't hold you to a
> >>> lease if they can't fix a leak.
>
> >> Likely WRONG advice at this point but if the ceiling collapses or
> >> floor becomes unsafe to walk upon, etc... then the OP may have a
> >> case to break the lease. Hopefully this is covered in his lease. It
> >> is in Texas std. apt or residential leases.
>
> >> Another option if the OP wants, is to ask the manager if he can
> >> relocate into another unit either permanently or until the leak is
> >> fixed. Some managers will accomodate the tenant if a unit is
> >> available.
>
> >There might also be local code re repairs to rental homes and when the
> >renter is excused from breaking the lease....damned if I'd stay in a
> >rental with leaky ceiling without raising heck :o)
>
> The landlord is sending the repairman multiple times so it sounds like
> the landlord is trying. I don't think getting mad at the landlord is
> going to help but asking to relocate might be an option.
Who in their right mind is going to move all there stuff
>
>
>
>
>
> >clipped
>
> >>> It's an apartment, right? Move! They certainly can't hold you to a
> >>> lease if they can't fix a leak.
>
> >> Likely WRONG advice at this point but if the ceiling collapses or
> >> floor becomes unsafe to walk upon, etc... then the OP may have a
> >> case to break the lease. Hopefully this is covered in his lease. It
> >> is in Texas std. apt or residential leases.
>
> >> Another option if the OP wants, is to ask the manager if he can
> >> relocate into another unit either permanently or until the leak is
> >> fixed. Some managers will accomodate the tenant if a unit is
> >> available.
>
> >There might also be local code re repairs to rental homes and when the
> >renter is excused from breaking the lease....damned if I'd stay in a
> >rental with leaky ceiling without raising heck :o)
>
> The landlord is sending the repairman multiple times so it sounds like
> the landlord is trying. I don't think getting mad at the landlord is
> going to help but asking to relocate might be an option.
from one apartment to another because of one small
leak in the ceiling that can be contained with a bucket?
That to me is far more disruptivde than having a bucket
around until the leak can be located and fixed. And it
doesn't make any sense from the landlord perspective
either. The leak has to be fixed or they can't rent it to
someone else.
Locating it is the problem. It sounds like it's a leak
from some point on an exterior wall, not a roof leak.
Those can be hard to find and it's not unusual for it
to take several attempts to solve it, even when the
landlord is doing all the right things.
>
> As to the cost to relocate, I suppose you can ask but not sure if the
> landlord is legally responsible for this. In Texas, the property code
>
> - Show quoted text -
tra...@optonline.net
Feb 7, 2013, 10:01:38 AM2/7/13
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it to the landlord. Put dates in it of when you first notified
them, when the multiple repair attempts were made and
take pictures of the outside missing mortar.
If they've made 3 attempts to fix it and you can see obvious
missing mortar in the area of the problem, then the repair
guys don't know what they are doing. I'd also take pics of
the inside ceiling, send that too.
That establishes clear documentation of what has happened
and what state it's still in. Tell them that this
is unacceptable and it needs to be fixed immediately.
That could spur them to action or if not and it later comes to
you breaking the lease or damage to stuff in your
apartment, you have good documentation
k...@attt.bizz
Feb 7, 2013, 10:10:46 AM2/7/13
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 22:45:45 -0600, Doug <do...@noemailaddress.com>
>Another option if the OP wants, is to ask the manager if he can
>relocate into another unit either permanently or until the leak is
>fixed. Some managers will accomodate the tenant if a unit is
>available.
tra...@optonline.net
Feb 7, 2013, 10:23:38 AM2/7/13
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On Feb 7, 5:26 am, homeow...@home.com wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:41:44 -0500, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net>
of the leak, it's coming from an exterior wall, not the roof.
> On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:41:44 -0500, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Yes, the water tends to drip from a spot on the ceiling that's right
> >near the wall. I might be able to catch it with a funnel that I'll tape
> >to the wall.
>
> >It sounds like it's actually better to let the water drip out, rather
> >than try to seal it up in the ceiling!
>
> If you were able to seal it too well, the whole attic would fill with
> water and eventually collapse the whole structure. That could really
> suck! However, you'd never seal it that good.
>
> So far no one has mentioned going into the attic when it's raining, and
> putting a bucket up there where the water is coming in, and while you're
> at it, take a marker and mark the spot on the underside of the roof
> where the water is coming in.
No one has mentioned that because per his description
>
> >Yes, the water tends to drip from a spot on the ceiling that's right
> >near the wall. I might be able to catch it with a funnel that I'll tape
> >to the wall.
>
> >It sounds like it's actually better to let the water drip out, rather
> >than try to seal it up in the ceiling!
>
> If you were able to seal it too well, the whole attic would fill with
> water and eventually collapse the whole structure. That could really
> suck! However, you'd never seal it that good.
>
> So far no one has mentioned going into the attic when it's raining, and
> putting a bucket up there where the water is coming in, and while you're
> at it, take a marker and mark the spot on the underside of the roof
> where the water is coming in.
of the leak, it's coming from an exterior wall, not the roof.
Doug
Feb 7, 2013, 11:03:40 AM2/7/13
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Doug
Feb 7, 2013, 11:12:20 AM2/7/13
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the OP that much. There are a lot of unknowns here
>Locating it is the problem. It sounds like it's a leak
>from some point on an exterior wall, not a roof leak.
>Those can be hard to find and it's not unusual for it
>to take several attempts to solve it, even when the
>landlord is doing all the right things.
>
>
leaking. As a landlord myself, I would give the repair guy 2 or 3
shots and then consider someone else to fix. Besides annoying the
tenant, if it lasts too long, it may affect more and cost more to fix.
Doug
Feb 7, 2013, 11:13:32 AM2/7/13
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Norminn
Feb 7, 2013, 11:24:59 AM2/7/13
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idea to get with that neighbor to see if you can help clear it and then
try to clear after the storm. This is starting to bring back memories
of similar problem in the apartment I lived in as a child (Loooong ago) :o)
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Feb 7, 2013, 12:24:50 PM2/7/13
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 04:26:32 -0600, home...@home.com wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:41:44 -0500, "Steven L." <sdli...@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Yes, the water tends to drip from a spot on the ceiling that's right
>>near the wall. I might be able to catch it with a funnel that I'll tape
>>to the wall.
>>
>>It sounds like it's actually better to let the water drip out, rather
>>than try to seal it up in the ceiling!
>>
>
>If you were able to seal it too well, the whole attic would fill with
>water and eventually collapse the whole structure. That could really
>suck! However, you'd never seal it that good.
This is a SECOND FLOOR apartment in a 3 STORY building. It is NOT a
>On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:41:44 -0500, "Steven L." <sdli...@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Yes, the water tends to drip from a spot on the ceiling that's right
>>near the wall. I might be able to catch it with a funnel that I'll tape
>>to the wall.
>>
>>It sounds like it's actually better to let the water drip out, rather
>>than try to seal it up in the ceiling!
>>
>
>If you were able to seal it too well, the whole attic would fill with
>water and eventually collapse the whole structure. That could really
>suck! However, you'd never seal it that good.
roof problem - and NOT an attic issue.
k...@attt.bizz
Feb 7, 2013, 1:08:49 PM2/7/13
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 10:13:32 -0600, Doug <do...@noemailaddress.com>
You really are dumber than a stump, Dumbie. Even a stump knows enough
not to broadcast its ignorance.
>but please go to the doctor and fix your meds.
Tuesday, Dumbie.
not to broadcast its ignorance.
>but please go to the doctor and fix your meds.
TomR
Feb 7, 2013, 1:26:15 PM2/7/13
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what state and what town or area.
I am in New Jersey (South Jersey) and I have a pretty good idea of how the
law works in New Jersey regarding residential rental property etc. (but I am
not an attorney).
If you have concerns about mold and mildew, and especially with your
newly-developed or existing sinus and bronchitis problems, there are some
fairly simple things that you and the landlord can do.
I think the easiest thing to do for now would be to let your landlord know
about your sinus and bronchitis problems and your concerns about potential
mold and mildew, and ask that the maintenance people open up the ceiling now
so it can dry out. That should be an easy no-brainer for them, especially
since the ceiling already has water damage. And, by opening the ceiling
they may even be able to better see where the water leak is coming from.
But, regardless, the correct remedy for this type of damage (water in the
ceiling) is to first open up the area and dry it out completely. That will
help prevent mold and mildew growth, and it will enable the landlord to
determine the extent of the water damage. They will have to fix the ceiling
anyway, and the only correct way to fix it at this point is to open it up
first and dry it out.
Since the big Nor'easter is coming tomorrow and tomorrow night, the time to
open up the ceiling is today, or tomorrow AM at the latest. And, assuming
you are in the predicted snow area, you can expect some serious water
problems from the snow melting on the deck or whatever above.
And, of course, move all of your stuff out of the way so they can throw down
some tarps and get to the area easily and open the ceiling without making
too much of a mess. If there is insulation up in the ceiling, they will
need to remove that to in order to prevent mold and mildew growth and to see
the area better.
As far as automatically being able to break your lease and move out, in New
Jersey it's not quite that simple. You would have to demonstrate that the
proper was not habitable in its present condition and that your landlord has
been unwilling to correct the problem within a reasonable time frame. So
far, your landlord has been responding but just has not yet been able to
come up with a quick fix. The fix is probably going to take some time, but
if they open the ceiling up to dry it out and protect it from mold and
mildew growth, they will have already done a lot toward temporarily
resolving the problem until a permanent solution can be achieved.
Good luck. Let us know how it works out.
TomR
Feb 7, 2013, 1:38:13 PM2/7/13
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But, seriously, if they open the ceiling up now it will help with a number
of things. One is that it will help dry things out and prevent or reduce
mold and mildew growth. Another is that should prevent a ceiling collapse
during or after the coming snow storm. And it may help them see exactly
where the water is coming in. And, finally, it actually may mean you'll
need "a bigger bucket" -- meaning something larger to collect water from a
slightly larger area rather than just from the one drip spot you had before.
Doug
Feb 7, 2013, 2:45:16 PM2/7/13
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Doug
Feb 7, 2013, 6:29:55 PM2/7/13
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:27:55 -0500, "Steven L."
<sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I live in an apartment, and the living room ceiling near the deck has a
>rain leak: During the biggest rainstorms, some water drips down onto my
>carpet from one particular spot on the ceiling. There's a stain on the
>ceiling there too.
>
>I've had the maintenance people in my apartment twice, but so far they
>have failed to fix the problem. They'll have to try again next week.
>
>While they're still trying to figure it out, is there some *temporary*
>fix I can use to stop the water from dripping from the ceiling every
>time there's a big storm?
>
>Silicone caulk?
>Rope caulk?
>Anything else?
Steven, whatever you do, just want to wish you luck especially with
<sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I live in an apartment, and the living room ceiling near the deck has a
>rain leak: During the biggest rainstorms, some water drips down onto my
>carpet from one particular spot on the ceiling. There's a stain on the
>ceiling there too.
>
>I've had the maintenance people in my apartment twice, but so far they
>have failed to fix the problem. They'll have to try again next week.
>
>While they're still trying to figure it out, is there some *temporary*
>fix I can use to stop the water from dripping from the ceiling every
>time there's a big storm?
>
>Silicone caulk?
>Rope caulk?
>Anything else?
the snow storm coming. If possible, can you keep us up to date down
the road? Stay warm and safe.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Feb 7, 2013, 6:35:47 PM2/7/13
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 17:29:55 -0600, Doug <do...@noemailaddress.com>
wrote:
Looks like a bunch of "horizontal snow" around south central ontario
tonight too.
wrote:
tonight too.
Stormin Mormon
Feb 7, 2013, 6:57:13 PM2/7/13
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Some vertical snow in north eastern USA, also.
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k...@attt.bizz
Feb 7, 2013, 7:26:01 PM2/7/13
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Norminn
Feb 7, 2013, 7:43:52 PM2/7/13
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lot! Stay safe, and hope it isn't as bad as they are forecasting :o)
gregz
Feb 7, 2013, 7:46:27 PM2/7/13
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"Steven L." <sdli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I live in an apartment, and the living room ceiling near the deck has a
> rain leak: During the biggest rainstorms, some water drips down onto my
> carpet from one particular spot on the ceiling. There's a stain on the ceiling there too.
>
> I've had the maintenance people in my apartment twice, but so far they
> have failed to fix the problem. They'll have to try again next week.
>
> While they're still trying to figure it out, is there some *temporary*
> fix I can use to stop the water from dripping from the ceiling every time
> there's a big storm?
>
> Silicone caulk?
> Rope caulk?
> Anything else?
>
>
I stayed at a motor lodge. I read bad reviews about the place. Upon
> I live in an apartment, and the living room ceiling near the deck has a
> rain leak: During the biggest rainstorms, some water drips down onto my
> carpet from one particular spot on the ceiling. There's a stain on the ceiling there too.
>
> I've had the maintenance people in my apartment twice, but so far they
> have failed to fix the problem. They'll have to try again next week.
>
> While they're still trying to figure it out, is there some *temporary*
> fix I can use to stop the water from dripping from the ceiling every time
> there's a big storm?
>
> Silicone caulk?
> Rope caulk?
> Anything else?
>
>
entering room, found at Least one leak between beds. It quit raining a day
or two beforehand. The one odd thing was a large rectangular box in the
hallway. I kept looking at it thinking, was that to catch a water drip ? I
didn't want to investigate.
Wedding reception was great.
Greg
Doug
Feb 8, 2013, 12:03:13 AM2/8/13
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k...@attt.bizz
Feb 8, 2013, 7:45:16 PM2/8/13
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 23:03:13 -0600, Doug <do...@noemailaddress.com>
If we're keeping you up too late, you'd better go to bed. You'll be
smarter in your sleep anyway.
smarter in your sleep anyway.
k...@attt.bizz
Feb 8, 2013, 7:46:57 PM2/8/13
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:43:52 -0500, Norminn <nor...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Six years ago (on Valentines day) we got 36" and another 24" a month
later (St. Pat's day). Fortunately, that was about it for the year so
there was a place to put it all.
wrote:
later (St. Pat's day). Fortunately, that was about it for the year so
there was a place to put it all.
Doug
Feb 9, 2013, 9:56:17 AM2/9/13
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forget your meds today.
k...@attt.bizz
Feb 9, 2013, 1:11:29 PM2/9/13
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On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 08:56:17 -0600, Doug <do...@noemailaddress.com>
You'll never be fine, Dumbie.
>when you see the doctor and get the right doseage.
The fact that you're concerned about my BP medication does speak
volumes about you, though.
>Don't forget your meds today.
Already took them, Dumbie, but your stalking is a little spooky.
>when you see the doctor and get the right doseage.
volumes about you, though.
>Don't forget your meds today.
Doug
Feb 9, 2013, 1:52:08 PM2/9/13
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k...@attt.bizz
Feb 9, 2013, 2:42:21 PM2/9/13
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On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 12:52:08 -0600, Doug <do...@noemailaddress.com>
More proof of your single digit IQ, Dumbie. Done any "research" at
CDC.GOV, lately? Did you finally read the Constitution on that site?
CDC.GOV, lately? Did you finally read the Constitution on that site?
Doug
Feb 9, 2013, 3:18:21 PM2/9/13
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k...@attt.bizz
Feb 9, 2013, 3:27:25 PM2/9/13
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On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 14:18:21 -0600, Doug <do...@noemailaddress.com>
It's obvious to everyone that you're a cyber stalker, Dumbie. Now run
along and take that nappie that mommy wants you to take. You can do
more research at CDC.GOV after your nappie.
along and take that nappie that mommy wants you to take. You can do
more research at CDC.GOV after your nappie.
Doug
Feb 9, 2013, 4:07:57 PM2/9/13
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you are when you don't take them.
And FWIW, I posted some reply to someone else on another thread and
you replied to me with your normal attitude so you stalked me. Anyway
your creditability here based on some others and myself isn't that
good so I don't care what you think or call me.
k...@attt.bizz
Feb 9, 2013, 7:07:08 PM2/9/13
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On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 15:07:57 -0600, Doug <do...@noemailaddress.com>
Always, Dumbie. Unlike you, I know how to read.
>And FWIW, I posted some reply to someone else on another thread and
>you replied to me with your normal attitude so you stalked me. Anyway
>your creditability here based on some others and myself isn't that
>good so I don't care what you think or call me.
You're a liar, Dumbie, but we all know that. I'm really not concerned
with a zero-IQ loser like you thinks of me. What do you think about
that. Oh, silly question; nothing of course. It's not possible.
>And FWIW, I posted some reply to someone else on another thread and
>you replied to me with your normal attitude so you stalked me. Anyway
>your creditability here based on some others and myself isn't that
>good so I don't care what you think or call me.
with a zero-IQ loser like you thinks of me. What do you think about
that. Oh, silly question; nothing of course. It's not possible.
Doug
Feb 9, 2013, 10:50:54 PM2/9/13
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On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 19:07:08 -0500, k...@attt.bizz wrote:
>On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 15:07:57 -0600, Doug <do...@noemailaddress.com>
>wrote:
>
>> - snip -
>On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 15:07:57 -0600, Doug <do...@noemailaddress.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>when you see the doctor and get the right doseage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The fact that you're concerned about my BP medication does speak
>>>>>>>volumes about you, though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Don't forget your meds today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Already took them, Dumbie, but your stalking is a little spooky.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny... you need to look in the mirror when you say this.
>>>>>
>>>>>More proof of your single digit IQ, Dumbie. Done any "research" at
>>>>>CDC.GOV, lately? Did you finally read the Constitution on that site?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No I was preoccupied with making sure you take your proper medication.
>>>
>>>It's obvious to everyone that you're a cyber stalker, Dumbie. Now run
>>>along and take that nappie that mommy wants you to take. You can do
>>>more research at CDC.GOV after your nappie.
>>
>>
>>Just make sure you continue to take the proper meds. You know how
>>you are when you don't take them.
>
>Always, Dumbie. Unlike you, I know how to read.
>
>>And FWIW, I posted some reply to someone else on another thread and
>>you replied to me with your normal attitude so you stalked me. Anyway
>>your creditability here based on some others and myself isn't that
>>good so I don't care what you think or call me.
>
>You're a liar, Dumbie, but we all know that. I'm really not concerned
>with a zero-IQ loser like you thinks of me. What do you think about
>that. Oh, silly question; nothing of course. It's not possible.
to someone else and you replied to me.
So it looks like you're lying or have a convenient loss of memory.
Either way I hope it not due to your over dosing or forgetting to take
your meds.
k...@attt.bizz
Feb 10, 2013, 8:10:07 PM2/10/13
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On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 21:50:54 -0600, Doug <do...@noemailaddress.com>
Oh, I can't reply to you because your replied to someone else? BTW,
there is no such post. You really are a stupid fuck, Dumbie.
>So it looks like you're lying or have a convenient loss of memory.
>Either way I hope it not due to your over dosing or forgetting to take
>your meds.
You really are too stupid to breathe, Dumbie. Why don't you research
how to breathe on CDC.GOV. It's in the section about the
Constitution.
there is no such post. You really are a stupid fuck, Dumbie.
>So it looks like you're lying or have a convenient loss of memory.
>Either way I hope it not due to your over dosing or forgetting to take
>your meds.
how to breathe on CDC.GOV. It's in the section about the
Constitution.
Doug
Feb 10, 2013, 9:10:26 PM2/10/13
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>
>>So it looks like you're lying or have a convenient loss of memory.
>>Either way I hope it not due to your over dosing or forgetting to take
>>your meds.
>
>You really are too stupid to breathe, Dumbie. Why don't you research
>how to breathe on CDC.GOV. It's in the section about the
>Constitution.
doctor that you aren't taking your meds every day.
Geez, I never encountered someone so stupid as you on the net... even
the TROLLS are smarter.
k...@attt.bizz
Feb 11, 2013, 6:11:18 PM2/11/13
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:10:26 -0600, Doug <do...@noemailaddress.com>
You're obviously deaf as well as dumb, Dumbie.
>Geez, I never encountered someone so stupid as you on the net... even
>the TROLLS are smarter.
IKWYABWAI. Typical lefty argument. How's your Constitutional
research at CDC.GOV coming along?
>Geez, I never encountered someone so stupid as you on the net... even
>the TROLLS are smarter.
research at CDC.GOV coming along?
Doug
Feb 11, 2013, 11:16:37 PM2/11/13
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Steven L.
Feb 13, 2013, 3:00:27 PM2/13/13
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The good news is that my ceiling survived the blizzard and subsequent thaw!
But I suspect that it was my own desperate repair--rather than the
maintenance people's repairs--that did the trick.
When I looked at the outside wall from the vantage point of my own deck,
I could see some HUGE holes in the mortar (I could stuff 4 of my fingers
right between the bricks), at just above the point where the leak stains
are visible in my ceiling.
That cannot be a coincidence!
So THAT is the hole I plugged myself.
And I think that did the trick.
--
Steven L.
TomR
Feb 15, 2013, 11:22:53 AM2/15/13
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temporarily. And, since you wrote:
> I could see some HUGE holes in the mortar (I could stuff 4 of my
> fingers right between the bricks), at just above the point where the
> leak stains are visible in my ceiling. ,
> I could see some HUGE holes in the mortar (I could stuff 4 of my
> fingers right between the bricks), at just above the point where the
I think that is probably where the problem is located.
JustME
Dec 1, 2019, 2:44:06 PM12/1/19
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replying to Stormin Mormon, JustME,Eh?! wrote:
Tar & feather texture Seal it up good Sam I’m dying & want the curtains to
come down now; it’s ny times here in nc
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Tar & feather texture Seal it up good Sam I’m dying & want the curtains to
come down now; it’s ny times here in nc
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for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/need-temporary-fix-for-ceiling-rain-leak-735864-.htm
JustME
Dec 1, 2019, 2:44:07 PM12/1/19
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replying to Steven L., JustME,Eh?! wrote:
Real Caulk
Real Caulk
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