OT. 2 Beers/Week

[Dean Hoffman]

The Biden administration people might be suggesting that in the future.
<https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12438233/Americans-limited-two-beers-strict-new-alcohol-guidelines-Bidens-booze-czar.html>
C.S. Lewis quote:
"
C.S. Lewis > Quotes > Quotable Quote


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C.S. Lewis
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

[Snag]

Fuck 'em . I'll drink as much and what I want when I want . If they
don't like it they can discuss it with my shotgun .
--
Snag
Men don't protect women because they're weak .
We protect them because they're important .

[T]

On 8/24/23 15:11, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> C.S. Lewis
> “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

Lewis just described the Woke movement

https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/07/Political-Cartoon-7-16-2023-.-Woke-Hole.jpg

[T]

On 8/24/23 15:27, Snag wrote:
> Fuck 'em . I'll drink as much and what I want when I want . If they
> don't like it they can discuss it with my shotgun .

Hmmmm. Looks like you will never conform enough
to become a member of the volksgrossen.

[Snag]

Fuck a buncha conforming , if they wanna discuss it I live out in the
woods ... they better hope they find me before I find them . And I have
2 neighbors that own backhoes .

[T]

On 8/24/23 16:20, Snag wrote:
> On 8/24/2023 5:46 PM, T wrote:
>> On 8/24/23 15:27, Snag wrote:
>>> Fuck 'em . I'll drink as much and what I want when I want . If they
>>> don't like it they can discuss it with my shotgun .
>>
>> Hmmmm.  Looks like you will never conform enough
>> to become a member of the volksgrossen.
>
>   Fuck a buncha conforming , if they wanna discuss it I live out in the
> woods ... they better hope they find me before I find them . And I have
> 2 neighbors that own backhoes .

Any perimeter alarms (A.K.A. dogs)?

[Ed P]

On 8/24/2023 6:11 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> The Biden administration people might be suggesting that in the future.
> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12438233/Americans-limited-two-beers-strict-new-alcohol-guidelines-Bidens-booze-czar.html>

They may be correct, but it is not going to happen. If people want to
drink, they will.

I heard of a case just a week ago. Father dies from cirrhosis year
ago, mother died from cirrhosis last week. Son, 21, got to make the
decision to pull the plug. Would they have followed the 2 beer limit?
Doubt it. Their choice.

Oh, I enjoyed a bit of wine with dinner tonight. I will tomorrow too.

[Snag]

Max can hear a gnat sneeze from a hundred yards away ... and my wife
has better ears than him .

[T]

On 8/24/23 18:36, Snag wrote:
> On 8/24/2023 6:24 PM, T wrote:
>> On 8/24/23 16:20, Snag wrote:
>>> On 8/24/2023 5:46 PM, T wrote:
>>>> On 8/24/23 15:27, Snag wrote:
>>>>> Fuck 'em . I'll drink as much and what I want when I want . If they
>>>>> don't like it they can discuss it with my shotgun .
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmm.  Looks like you will never conform enough
>>>> to become a member of the volksgrossen.
>>>
>>>    Fuck a buncha conforming , if they wanna discuss it I live out in
>>> the woods ... they better hope they find me before I find them . And
>>> I have 2 neighbors that own backhoes .
>>
>>
>> Any perimeter alarms (A.K.A. dogs)?
>
>   Max can hear a gnat sneeze from a hundred yards away ... and my wife
> has better ears than him .

Hmmmm. You know you are a red neck if your
front porch collapses and four or more dogs
die. Guess you have only one dog so ...

> --
> Snag
>  Men don't protect women because they're weak .
> We protect them because they're important .

Exactly.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-08-25, Ed P <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
> On 8/24/2023 6:11 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>> The Biden administration people might be suggesting that in the future.
>> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12438233/Americans-limited-two-beers-strict-new-alcohol-guidelines-Bidens-booze-czar.html>

It's the Daily Mail, for fuck's sake. Might as well read the Weekly
World News.

And it's "advice" and "guidelines", from the Director of the National
Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, not regulations.

Panic! Doom! Destruction! It sells newspapers, but you'd think
everybody here would be a wee bit more critical of what they read,
rather than just lapping up the headlines and hitting the panic
button.

> They may be correct, but it is not going to happen. If people want to
> drink, they will.

How many people actually act on the advice of these government doctors?
Salt, sugar, fat, etc.? It's a nothingburger.

> I heard of a case just a week ago. Father dies from cirrhosis year
> ago, mother died from cirrhosis last week. Son, 21, got to make the
> decision to pull the plug. Would they have followed the 2 beer limit?
> Doubt it. Their choice.
>
> Oh, I enjoyed a bit of wine with dinner tonight. I will tomorrow too.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Skid Marks]

Snag wrote:
> On 8/24/2023 5:46 PM, T wrote:
>> On 8/24/23 15:27, Snag wrote:
>>> Fuck 'em . I'll drink as much and what I want when I want . If they don't like it they can discuss it with my shotgun .
>>
>> Hmmmm.  Looks like you will never conform enough
>> to become a member of the volksgrossen.
>
>   Fuck a buncha conforming , if they wanna discuss it I live out in the woods ... they better hope they find me before I find them . And I have
> 2 neighbors that own backhoes .

Damn straight! We need to add backhoes to the 2nd.

[Skid Marks]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> It's the Daily Mail, for fuck's sake. Might as well read the Weekly
> World News.
>
> And it's "advice" and "guidelines", from the Director of the National
> Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, not regulations.
>
> Panic! Doom! Destruction! It sells newspapers, but you'd think
> everybody here would be a wee bit more critical of what they read,
> rather than just lapping up the headlines and hitting the panic
> button.

While campaigning, the ever-lying Joetard said there would be no clot-shot mandates...yet here we are.

I suspect Alex Jones gets it right more than ABC/CBS/*NBC/PBS/FAUX/CNN.

[Skid Marks]

Will the hypocritical Democrats regulate crack in the White House?

Once again, "crack for me but no beer for thee."

[Frank]

Reminds me, here in DE, if you tour a brewery the state law requires
they can only serve you 12 oz. of beer. I learned this on tour of
Dogfish Head when they told us and gave us 4 3 oz samples of different
beers.

OP sounds silly but don't put it past the woke culture to mandate such crap.

[Ed P]

Funny you say that. Do you know who wrote the legislation for
Prohibition? A Republican.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Wheeler

[Frank]

Had no idea but that was a century ago.

What I do know is that most democrats think it is the same party of
their fathers.

[trader_4]

I agree, the Democrats sure have changed, but so have the Republicans.
In my lifetime, it took the Democrats 50 years to morph into what they are today.
The Republicans have changed a lot more, for the worse and in only about 7 years.
They used to stand for democracy, stand with democratic countries against war
criminal dictators. Now a significant portion of the GOP thinks we should cut off
aid to Ukraine, let Putin have it. The fastest rising star, a big winner at the debate,
Ramaswamy wants to do that and similar with Taiwan, just give it to China. Now
instead of being strong on democracy, standing for freedom, it's more likely to find
Qanon crazy in the GOP.
Speaking of which, we already have nuts like MTG fully invested in that, Ramaswamy
just this week brought up the need to find out how many govt agents were on the
911 planes. My what a hot mess it all is, a lot more wrong there than just Trump,
though he is the one that did the great damage that put them where they are today.
Instead of admitting their mistakes, correcting, they want more Trump, more Putin
ass kissing and more Qanon crazy.

[rbowman]

On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 09:12:22 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> And it's "advice" and "guidelines", from the Director of the National
> Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, not regulations.

iirc there was an experiment to ban alcohol completely for peoples' own
good. That was an economic boon for some of my family.

I'm surprised that demonizing tobacco worked as well as it did.

[rbowman]

On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 08:40:11 -0400, Frank wrote:

> Reminds me, here in DE, if you tour a brewery the state law requires
> they can only serve you 12 oz. of beer. I learned this on tour of
> Dogfish Head when they told us and gave us 4 3 oz samples of different
> beers.

No fun. My parents and I toured a winery and there wasn't a limitation on
the samples. It worked well as we went home with a case of assorted wine.
Up to that point wine in my family consisted of a dusty bottle of
Manischewitz in case a visitor was stupid enough to ask for wine, and a
bottle of chianti for chicken cacciatore (old family recipe from Betty
Crocker) which my mother pronounced 'chantez' ala Dinah Shore.

I remember that case lasting for a very long time but it seemed like a
good idea after the sampling.

[rbowman]

On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 09:29:46 -0400, Ed P wrote:

> Funny you say that. Do you know who wrote the legislation for
> Prohibition? A Republican.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Wheeler

I like the part about the 16th Amendment giving the feds a new way to milk
the cows that they weren't concerned about losing the revenue from alcohol
sales. That was a turnaround. The only sitting US President to lead an
army in the field was Washington on his way to collect whiskey tax from
those uppity farmers.

Somehow when the revenue flow from the federal excise tax on alcohol
resumed the personal income tax wasn't reduced.

Let us not forget the first Republican president resulted in the death of
about 750,000 Americans and has repercussions to this day.

[rbowman]

On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 07:06:10 -0400, Skid Marks wrote:

> Will the hypocritical Democrats regulate crack in the White House?

Crack? What crack? Nothing to see here folks. Move along.

[Peeler]

On 25 Aug 2023 19:19:10 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> I like the part about the 16th Amendment

Do you? But that's just great! And now fuck off to a newsgroup for
self-admiring senile shitheads! There MUST be one!

--
Yet more of the abnormal senile gossiping by the resident senile gossip:
"I never understood how they made a living but the space where the local
party store was is now up for lease. It probably was more than helium. I
often walk over the the adjacent market to get something for dinner and
people stuffing balloons in their cars was a common sight. No more. I've
no idea if there is another store in town."
MID: <kafs2nF...@mid.individual.net>

[Peeler]

On 25 Aug 2023 19:02:13 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> No fun. My parents and I toured a winery...

Oh, fuck! The senile blather about the most interesting person in this ng
starts again!

<FLUSH rest of the interesting crap unread again>

--
More of the resident senile gossip's absolutely idiotic endless blather
about herself:
"My family and I traveled cross country in '52, going out on the northern
route and returning mostly on Rt 66. We also traveled quite a bit as the
interstates were being built. It might have been slower but it was a lot
more interesting. Even now I prefer what William Least Heat-Moon called
the blue highways but it's difficult. Around here there are remnants of
the Mullan Road as frontage roads but I-90 was laid over most of it so
there is no continuous route. So far 93 hasn't been destroyed."
MID: <kae9iv...@mid.individual.net>

[Peeler]

On 25 Aug 2023 18:52:16 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> iirc there was an experiment to ban alcohol completely for peoples' own
> good. That was an economic boon for some of my family.
>
> I'm surprised that demonizing tobacco worked as well as it did.

I'm surprised there was not yet an experiment to ban gossiping for the
gossiping asshole's good, you gossiping senile asshole!

--
More absolutely idiotic blather by the resident senile gossip:
"My mother sometimes made a cherry chiffon cake that started with a
packaged mix. It wasn't bad if you squished a slice down to resemble real
cake."
MID: <kaldt8F...@mid.individual.net>

[Greta Thongturd]

whackopedia is authored by a bunch of revisionist history libtards, I suspect.

[Snag]

We used to visit the winery tastings at a couple of places in Branson
. Both were in walking distance of our preferred lodging .

[Cindy Hamilton]

We didn't make the sale of it illegal, so there wasn't a big
backlash. Nonsmokers rendered smokers into pariahs. Nicely
democratic. I enjoy being able to get a meal in a restaurant
or a drink in a bar without choking.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[rbowman]

On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 21:04:12 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> We didn't make the sale of it illegal, so there wasn't a big backlash.
> Nonsmokers rendered smokers into pariahs. Nicely democratic. I enjoy
> being able to get a meal in a restaurant or a drink in a bar without
> choking.

The taxes helped. The non-smokers had a little help:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans_in_the_United_States

Wyoming is the interesting one. The state law prohibits smoking in mines
or other places that might blow up. Local governments can do their own
thing.

Casper, November 4, 2015, banned in bars and restaurants, but not other
workplaces

I'm not sure that's accurate. They haven't went cowboy and shot anyone but
it's been fun times in Casper.

https://wyofile.com/caspers-smoking-controversy-decided-voters/


It's a good thing you don't travel or you might find a smoky bar or two.

I smoked for a few years back in the '70s. I won't say everybody did but
the democracy at that time would tell a person with a sensitive nose to
stop breathing. Cigars might get you a dirty look.

[Scott Lurndal]

Or fly on an airplane without suffocating from the clouds of
tobacco smoke. Even after the moved the smokers to the back,
it still sucked.

[rbowman]

On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:42:55 -0500, Snag wrote:


> We used to visit the winery tastings at a couple of places in Branson
> . Both were in walking distance of our preferred lodging .

I did a wine country tour in CA but it wasn't the usual type. I picked up
most of the load at Gallo. They dropped a case loading the truck so it
smelled like a winery. The rest of the load was a skid or two at the
smaller wineries. By the time I got to the last vineyard it was too late
to load but I could park in the vineyard for the night. I forget which it
was but it was a large vineyard and I enjoyed walking around.

There are a couple of wineries around here but grapes don't do well in
Montana so they're mostly trucked in with a few locally grown.

https://trulyexperiences.com/blog/montana-wineries/

Lolo Peak uses native fruits, not grapes. My brother was into wine so one
Christmas I wanted to send him a case of a real Montana product. The guy
at the UPS store told me it was against state law to ship wine out of
state. He winked and said 'You meant to say preserves, didn't you?'
Preserves it was.

[rbowman]

On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 16:34:41 -0400, Greta Thongturd wrote:

> whackopedia is authored by a bunch of revisionist history libtards, I
> suspect.

Ramaswamy's wikipedia page is interesting. I haven't checked lately to see
who is winning the edit wars, his crew or the anti-ramies.

[Peeler]

On 25 Aug 2023 22:49:33 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

>> whackopedia is authored by a bunch of revisionist history libtards, I
>> suspect.
>
> Ramaswamy's wikipedia page is interesting. I haven't checked lately to see
> who is winning the edit wars, his crew or the anti-ramies.

And your endless underhanded instigating continues doing it's "work", you
abnormal bigmouth!

--
More of the resident bigmouth's usual idiotic babble and gossip:
I'm not saying my father and uncle wouldn't have drank Genesee beer
without Miss Genny but it certainly didn't hurt. Stanton's was the
hometown brewery but it closed in '50. There was a Schaefer brewery in
Albany but their product was considered a step up from cat piss.

My preference was Rheingold on tap"

MID: <k9mnmm...@mid.individual.net>

[Peeler]

On 25 Aug 2023 22:44:19 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> I did a wine country tour in CA but it wasn't the usual type.

Of course, it wasn't. After all you are yourself an usual, highly
interesting type, as you well know, and as you are telling everybody. <BG>

<FLUSH another load of the abnormal self-admiring bigmouth's personal crap
unread again>

--
Self-admiring lowbrowwoman telling everyone yet another "thrilling" story
about her great life:
"In a role reversal my mother taught her father to drive. She was in the
back seat when he took his first test, trying a little telepathy: "release
the handbrake. release the handbrake'. He didn't, stalled the engine and
failed. The next time went better."
MID: <kafp0u...@mid.individual.net>

[Peeler]

On 25 Aug 2023 22:21:48 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> The taxes helped. The non-smokers had a little help:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans_in_the_United_States
>
> Wyoming is the interesting one.

NOTHING and NOBODY could ever be as interesting as you are! And you KNOW
that very well, right? <BG>

--
And yet another idiotic "cool" line, this time about the UK, from the
resident bigmouthed all-American superhero:
"You could dump the entire 93,628 square miles in eastern Montana and only
the prairie dogs would notice."
MID: <ka2vrl...@mid.individual.net>

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-08-25, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 21:04:12 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> We didn't make the sale of it illegal, so there wasn't a big backlash.
>> Nonsmokers rendered smokers into pariahs. Nicely democratic. I enjoy
>> being able to get a meal in a restaurant or a drink in a bar without
>> choking.
>
> The taxes helped. The non-smokers had a little help:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans_in_the_United_States

All enacted because a lot of people wanted them.

The People's Republic of Ann Arbor has an ordinance banning smoking
outdoors in public parks, where posted.

> Wyoming is the interesting one. The state law prohibits smoking in mines
> or other places that might blow up. Local governments can do their own
> thing.
>
> Casper, November 4, 2015, banned in bars and restaurants, but not other
> workplaces
>
> I'm not sure that's accurate. They haven't went cowboy and shot anyone but
> it's been fun times in Casper.
>
> https://wyofile.com/caspers-smoking-controversy-decided-voters/

If anybody lit up indoors in Ann Arbor, they'd die of blunt-force
Birkenstock trauma.

> It's a good thing you don't travel or you might find a smoky bar or two.

Funny thing. I wouldn't want to go anyplace where smoking wasn't
banned in bars and restaurants.

I might travel if we had teleportation. I don't so much mind
being places as getting to them.

> I smoked for a few years back in the '70s. I won't say everybody did but
> the democracy at that time would tell a person with a sensitive nose to
> stop breathing. Cigars might get you a dirty look.

42.2% of people smoked in 1970; 39.3% in 1975; 32.8% in 1980.

Only 11.5% of adults smoke these days.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Retirednoguilt]

On 8/25/2023 3:19 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 09:29:46 -0400, Ed P wrote:
>
>> The only sitting US President to lead an
> army in the field was Washington on his way to collect whiskey tax from
> those uppity farmers.
>

By using the word "sitting", I believe you're saying "while in office".
I'm not sure about this, but didn't Presidents Andrew Jackson, U.S.
Grant and D.D. Eisenhower also lead armies in the field albeit prior to
becoming President? I'm trying to understand why you believe doing so
while President deserves mention and what point are you making about
Washington having done so?

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-08-26, Retirednoguilt <Hapily...@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On 8/25/2023 3:19 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 09:29:46 -0400, Ed P wrote:
>>
>>> The only sitting US President to lead an
>> army in the field was Washington on his way to collect whiskey tax from
>> those uppity farmers.
>>
>
> By using the word "sitting", I believe you're saying "while in office".

That's what a sitting president is. The guy currently holding the
office.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Ed P]

What do you mean my "lead armies"? Eisenhower never saw combat.

During World War I, he was denied a request to serve in Europe and
instead commanded a unit that trained tank crews. Following the war, he
served under various generals and was promoted to the rank of brigadier
general in 1941. After the United States entered World War II,
Eisenhower oversaw the invasions of North Africa and Sicily before
supervising the invasions of France and Germany.

[Retirednoguilt]

Cindy Hamilton, what's your point? You're agreeing with me!

I mentioned my interpretation of "sitting" to show that I thought I was
correctly understanding the distinction rbowman was making before
proceeding to question the relevance of that distinction to the thread.
Perhaps my syntax muddled my message.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Could be. I certainly was confused about your intent.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[rbowman]

Yes, I meant while in office, rather than at some other time in their
careers. My point is at the time it was important enough for the
President to go into the field at the head of an army large than what he
commanded during the revolution for the sole purpose of collecting excise
taxes on alcohol. He passed the command to Lighthorse Harry Lee but it's a
statement on the priorities of the new government -- taxation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion

[rbowman]

There is no interpretation necessary for 'sitting president'. Words have
meaning and I don't use them randomly.

[rbowman]

On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 12:13:16 -0400, Ed P wrote:

> What do you mean my "lead armies"? Eisenhower never saw combat.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/marching-on-history-75797769/

All the big names, MacArthur, Patton, and Eisenhower practiced on American
veterans. Now there was an insurrection.

[Peeler]

On 26 Aug 2023 19:33:41 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> There is no interpretation necessary for 'sitting president'. Words have
> meaning and I don't use them randomly.

Of course, you don't! YOU use them grandiloquently, bigmouth!

--
Gossiping "lowbrowwoman" about herself:
"Usenet is my blog... I don't give a damn if anyone ever reads my posts
but they are useful in marshaling [sic] my thoughts."
MID: <iteioi...@mid.individual.net>

[Peeler]

On 26 Aug 2023 19:38:57 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/marching-on-history-75797769/
>
> All the big names, MacArthur, Patton, and Eisenhower practiced on American
> veterans. Now there was an insurrection.

ANYTHING to belittle the violent storming of the Capitol, eh, Trumptard?

--
Another one of the resident senile bigmouth's idiotic "cool" lines:
"If you're an ax murderer don't leave souvenir photos on your phone."
"MID: <k7ssc7...@mid.individual.net>"

[Peeler]

On 26 Aug 2023 19:31:15 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

>> By using the word "sitting", I believe you're saying "while in office".
>> I'm not sure about this, but didn't Presidents Andrew Jackson, U.S.
>> Grant and D.D. Eisenhower also lead armies in the field albeit prior to
>> becoming President? I'm trying to understand why you believe doing so
>> while President deserves mention and what point are you making about
>> Washington having done so?
>
> Yes, I meant while in office, rather than at some other time in their
> careers. My point is at the time it was important enough for the
> President to go into the field at the head of an army large than what he
> commanded during the revolution for the sole purpose of collecting excise
> taxes on alcohol. He passed the command to Lighthorse Harry Lee but it's a
> statement on the priorities of the new government -- taxation.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion

You have NO control over your big mouth, do you? LOL

--
More of the resident senile bigmouth's idiotic "cool" blather:
"For reasons I can't recall I painted a spare bedroom in purple. It may
have had something to do with copious quantities of cheap Scotch."
MID: <k89lch...@mid.individual.net>

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-08-26, Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:

> 42.2% of people smoked in 1970; 39.3% in 1975; 32.8% in 1980.

> Only 11.5% of adults smoke these days.

Does that percentage include pot, meth and crack smokers?

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 26 Aug 2023 12:13:16 -0400, Ed P

<e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 8/26/2023 11:13 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote:
>> On 8/25/2023 3:19 PM, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 09:29:46 -0400, Ed P wrote:
>>>
>>>> The only sitting US President to lead an
>>> army in the field was Washington on his way to collect whiskey tax from
>>> those uppity farmers.
>>>
>>
>> By using the word "sitting", I believe you're saying "while in office".
>> I'm not sure about this, but didn't Presidents Andrew Jackson, U.S.
>> Grant and D.D. Eisenhower also lead armies in the field albeit prior to
>> becoming President?  I'm trying to understand why you believe doing so
>> while President deserves mention and what point are you making about
>> Washington having done so?
>
>
>What do you mean my "lead armies"? Eisenhower never saw combat.
>
>During World War I, he was denied a request to serve in Europe and
>instead commanded a unit that trained tank crews. Following the war, he

What a shirker. I had no idea. This ends my plans to become a
Republican.

Actually, I was told that he could have had either party's nomination,
he was so popular.

>served under various generals and was promoted to the rank of brigadier
>general in 1941. After the United States entered World War II,
>Eisenhower oversaw the invasions of North Africa and Sicily before
>supervising the invasions of France and Germany.

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[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:05:43 -0400, micky

<NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:

>In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 26 Aug 2023 12:13:16 -0400, Ed P
><e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>>On 8/26/2023 11:13 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote:
>>> On 8/25/2023 3:19 PM, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 09:29:46 -0400, Ed P wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The only sitting US President to lead an
>>>> army in the field was Washington on his way to collect whiskey tax from
>>>> those uppity farmers.

And btw, Washington saw plenty of combat but not douring the Whiskey
Rebellion. He led some troops as far as Bedford Pa. which is a little
west of Breezewood (A major highway intersection that many people know.)
But the trouble was further west and when the militia got there, the
people were angry but there was very little violence. The leaders had
gone into hiding, but a handful were tried for treason, most acquitted,
and the rest were pardoned (I think after serving time in jail, but I'm
guessing) either by Washington or John Adams.

I didn't learn that the Whiskey Rebellion's most important part was in
Western Pennsylvania, even though I went to school until the start of
the sixth grade IN Western Pennsylvania. Maybe it was their plan not to
teach us anything that would make us feel sad. Also it seems centered
aroudn Pittsburgeh and we were 42 miles north of there, and my town
didnt' exist, wasnt' even laid out, until 1798. Had a population of 300
in 1825.