How can a mouse trap be tripped and no mouse?
james
successfully.
After several peaceful months, I found the trap tripped again and the peanut
butter all gone, but there is no mouse to be found anywhere. How is this
possible?
This is the trap I use:
http://www.pestcontrol-products.com/rodent/victor_trap.jpg
Percival P. Cassidy
Evolution: the mice are getting smarter with each generation.
Perce
mike
The trap could have tripped after you set it due to vibration or a
bump. Then, the mice cleaned it out. Just try again.
False trips are a part of having a hair trigger.
HeyBub
Think cat.
willshak
Eggsactly. Me, I just set out live traps and relocate them. They have a
right to live like any of us, or else God wouldn't have put them here..
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The mice you caught were Darwin award winners. Now you have a whole
smarter generation to outsmart!
Oren
>The mice you caught were Darwin award winners. Now you have a whole
>smarter generation to outsmart!
example:
Metspitzer
Oren
I've seen in the past it might take several try's to get a set trap
'operational'. 'Course a sprung trap, allowing the mice to clean it
out will give them a false sense of security. Let 'em eat for a day or
so and then set the trap.
>False trips are a part of having a hair trigger.
It took once to learn to keep my fingers clear.
hal...@aol.com
> Eggsactly. Me, I just set out live traps and relocate them. They have a
> right to live like any of us, or else God wouldn't have put them here..
>
> --
>
> Bill
> In Hamptonburgh, NY
Glad to hear it ME TOO!
Dont keep food around your basement or garage!
I got into feeding birds and squirrels:) To save oney bought 50 pound
sack of sunflower seeds.
Kept seeds in basement:( Was over run with mice, relocated 36 mice.
Checked and released trap at least twice a day.
Had a few deaths, onlt old grey aged mice
Steve B
"Oren" <Or...@127.0.0.1> wrote
> I've seen in the past it might take several try's to get a set trap
> 'operational'. 'Course a sprung trap, allowing the mice to clean it
> out will give them a false sense of security. Let 'em eat for a day or
> so and then set the trap.
>
>>False trips are a part of having a hair trigger.
>
> It took once to learn to keep my fingers clear.
Putting them vertical helps so the rodent has to reach up and really push on
it, and they're in the right position for the bar to get them. I have
screwed them on to wood, and used velcro. It helps to get the REALLY smart
ones.
Steve
Steve B
> Percival P. Cassidy wrote the following:
>> On 01/21/10 01:01 pm, james wrote:
>>
>>> I set up a mouse trap in the garage and have caught several mice
>>> successfully.
>>>
>>> After several peaceful months, I found the trap tripped again and the
>>> peanut butter all gone, but there is no mouse to be found anywhere. How
>>> is this possible?
>>>
>>> This is the trap I use:
>>> http://www.pestcontrol-products.com/rodent/victor_trap.jpg
I have a lot of experience. I only put traps in my garage and shops, as I
also have little dogs that run around, so I have to be careful. I use the
same ones as you, but a Tin Cat by Victor is better.
But back to your question. One of two things. Either the mouse does not
get caught, or bugs strip the peanut butter. I have seen some mice push the
trap to get it to spring, then eat the pb. For them, I place the trap
vertical with the food down. That will get them. I have also come back to
find a sprung trap, nothing in it, and a large dead pack rat close by.
Guess it hit them on the head, and they didn't stay in the trap. So look
around, and you may have a dead larger rodent. And then sometimes they get
caught but manage to wiggle out, sometimes leaving a leg or paw.
I live in a very very heavily populated rodent area. I have to deal with
huge squirrels that raid my fruit trees. Then there's the chipmunks that
get into just about everything, the gophers that make tunnels and large
mounds of expensive spoils on the lawn, pack rats, and mice.
I have given up on the chipmunks. For the squirrels, I use a shotgun and a
water trap with a trap door that works good. I use spring traps for the
gophers underground. I have gotten pretty good at catching them, but I have
to check them EVERY DAY. My grandsons love coming here to stay, because we
make rounds and empty the traps. Then we take a large metal spoon and see
how far we can fling them into the air into the canyon abutting my property
as food for the coyotes and birds. I'm going to make some tall T's to put
them on so I can draw in some of the large raptors in the area.
Let us know what you figure out, and again, look for dead carcasses from
injured animals. They get skanky real quick unless you're in a cold place,
and then they will come spring.
Steve
Phisherman
It is easy to lick all the peanut butter off without tripping the
trap. But, try wiring on a peanut.
tmclone
> Percival P. Cassidy wrote the following:
>
> > On 01/21/10 01:01 pm, james wrote:
>
> >> I set up a mouse trap in the garage and have caught several mice
> >> successfully.
>
> >> After several peaceful months, I found the trap tripped again and the
> >> peanut butter all gone, but there is no mouse to be found anywhere. How
> >> is this possible?
>
> >> This is the trap I use:
> >>http://www.pestcontrol-products.com/rodent/victor_trap.jpg
>
> > Evolution: the mice are getting smarter with each generation.
>
> > Perce
>
>> Eggsactly. Me, I just set out live traps and relocate them. They have a
>> right to live like any of us, or else God wouldn't have put them here..
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bill
>> In Hamptonburgh, NY
>
>
>
> Dont keep food around your basement or garage!
>
> I got into feeding birds and squirrels:) To save oney bought 50 pound
> sack of sunflower seeds.
>
> Kept seeds in basement:( Was over run with mice, relocated 36 mice.
>
Never, ever have I kept food, seeds, anything edible (insulation
doesn't
count!) in my basement or my detached garage. The little vermin
overrun both
anyway, since those are the only two places the cats don't go since
neither are
accessible from inside the house. I have no problem with live and let
live,
but that stops at the foundation of my house. You come in uninvited,
you get
what you get.
aemeijers
every single time a mouse thread comes up? And please don't tell us
about that distillery cat again.
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Oren
>I got into feeding birds and squirrels:) To save oney bought 50 pound
>sack of sunflower seeds.
Birds starved after that sack a seeds?
K
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Limp Arbor
Glue traps. No bruised fingers. No escaped mice.
Jon Danniken
>
>
> Glue traps. No bruised fingers. No escaped mice.
Those are cruel. Just get a snaptrap and be done about it.
Jon
HeyBub
> HeyBub wrote:
>> james wrote:
>>> I set up a mouse trap in the garage and have caught several mice
>>> successfully.
>>>
>>> After several peaceful months, I found the trap tripped again and
>>> the peanut butter all gone, but there is no mouse to be found
>>> anywhere. How is this possible?
>>>
>>> This is the trap I use:
>>> http://www.pestcontrol-products.com/rodent/victor_trap.jpg
>>
>> Think cat.
>>
>>
> I think not. Feeding a few mice is cheaper.
Not if you contract Bubonic Plague, Babesiosis, LaCrosse encephalitis,
Cutaneous leishmaniasis, Human granulocytic anaplasmosis, Lyme disease,
Murine typhus, Rickettsialpox, Relapsing fever, Rocky Mountain spotted
fever, or even rabies.
> And why do you post this
> every single time a mouse thread comes up?
Obviously the person who posts a mouse thread has not seen it before.
> And please don't tell us
> about that distillery cat again.
You mean Towser? The cat in the Guiness Book of Records who, during her 23
years as the Mouser-In-Chief at the Glennturrent distillery dispatched
28,898 mice? That one?
Okay.
Doug Miller
>On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:01:19 -0800, "james" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>I set up a mouse trap in the garage and have caught several mice
>>successfully.
>>
>>After several peaceful months, I found the trap tripped again and the peanut
>>butter all gone, but there is no mouse to be found anywhere. How is this
>>possible?
Mice can lick the peanut butter off of the bait pan. Use a raisin instead;
crush it on to the pan, and they'll never get it off without tripping the
trap.
jimmyd...@gmail.com
cl...@snyder.on.ca
jimmy
Steve B
"aemeijers" <aeme...@att.net> wrote
> I think not. Feeding a few mice is cheaper.
Then they do what mice do after they have eaten. Yuck. It must smell at
your house.
Steve
Steve B
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That's the rule at our house, too. You can get some nasty stuff from mice,
and having anything that they can eat or nest in invites problems.
Steve
Steve B
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Glue traps are expensive. And have you ever heard a mice screaming that has
been caught in one? It's terrible.
Steve
Tony
> Percival P. Cassidy wrote the following:
>> On 01/21/10 01:01 pm, james wrote:
>>
>>> I set up a mouse trap in the garage and have caught several mice
>>> successfully.
>>>
>>> After several peaceful months, I found the trap tripped again and the
>>> peanut butter all gone, but there is no mouse to be found anywhere. How
>>> is this possible?
>>>
>>> This is the trap I use:
>>> http://www.pestcontrol-products.com/rodent/victor_trap.jpg
>>
>> Evolution: the mice are getting smarter with each generation.
>>
>> Perce
>
> Eggsactly. Me, I just set out live traps and relocate them. They have a
> right to live like any of us, or else God wouldn't have put them here..
yeah, sort of like cancer.
uncle K
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> It is easy to lick all the peanut butter off without tripping the
> trap.....
True. I had rat traps set, but they kept getting licked clean without
tripping. Huh? Then, one night, I looked out the window to see a rat
approaching. I'm 2' away, behind glass, so he doesn't see me. Not only did
he lick it clean... He held the bait shoe with both hands while he was
licking it! Amazing. Unfortunately for him, I smear some peanut butter on
the underside of the bait shoe. When he was all done licking the top, he
stuck his head underneath to get that last little bit.... WHAM! The trap
did a backwards cartwheel, I jumped a foot in the air. I survived. He
didn't.
;-{
Steve B
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I always smear some on the wood under the bait lever. Maybe that's why I
have a high catch rate.
Steve
tmclone
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>
>> Eggsactly. Me, I just set out live traps and relocate them. They have a
>> right to live like any of us, or else God wouldn't have put them here..
>>
>>
>> Bill
>> In Hamptonburgh, NY
>
>
> Glad to hear it ME TOO!
>
> Dont keep food around your basement or garage!
>
> I got into feeding birds and squirrels:) To save oney bought 50 pound
> sack of sunflower seeds.
>
> Kept seeds in basement:( Was over run with mice, relocated 36 mice.
>
Never, ever have I kept food, seeds, anything edible (insulation
doesn't
count!) in my basement or my detached garage. The little vermin
overrun both
anyway, since those are the only two places the cats don't go (neither
are
accessible from inside the house). I have no problem with live and let
HeyBub
> I set up a mouse trap in the garage and have caught several mice
> successfully.
>
> After several peaceful months, I found the trap tripped again and the
> peanut butter all gone, but there is no mouse to be found anywhere.
> How is this possible?
>
> This is the trap I use:
> http://www.pestcontrol-products.com/rodent/victor_trap.jpg
It could have something to do with the brand of cheese. It better not be
Nolan's.
See this documentary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqlQS5CCmwI
Stormin Mormon
computer one time, and a mouse came out to eat off the trap.
I tried to get a picture, but every time I moved, the mouse
fled. It was small enough and gentle enough not to trip the
trap. I put down some mouse food baits, and havn't seen
mousie since then. Perhaps your mouse population likes mouse
food baits.
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aemeijers
Nope. No food or crumbs, no mice. I was using the teeter-totter traps
baited with peanut butter, and relocating them, 2 or 3 a week, to a park
on other side of river. But 4-5 months ago. I noticed the bait was
vanishing, but the door was still open, and the trap hadn't tottered.
Dunno how, trap still functioned fine, and hinge pins weren't gummed up.
Maybe 2 mice cooperating- one eating, and one holding door end down and
open? So I quit setting the traps out, and quit seeing mice. I keep the
bird seed in tightly sealed 5 gallon buckets. In the kitchen, only food
not in fridge is sealed cans or bottles- no paper boxes or plastic bags
in pantry. Even keep the bread in the fridge. And I have trained myself
to not eat anywhere but kitchen table any more, so no crumbs in other
rooms either.
I'll take the occasional whiff of mouse over a the constant stench of a
cat litter box, any day. And litter boxes ALL stink. Cat owners that
claim otherwise are in denial, or they are so used to it that they don't
smell it any more. But guests sure do.
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news:CNydndK7Zuf3jMTW...@earthlink.com:
> aemeijers wrote:
>> HeyBub wrote:
>>> james wrote:
>>>> I set up a mouse trap in the garage and have caught several mice
>>>> successfully.
>>>>
>>>> After several peaceful months, I found the trap tripped again and
>>>> the peanut butter all gone, but there is no mouse to be found
>>>> anywhere. How is this possible?
>>>>
>>>> This is the trap I use:
>>>> http://www.pestcontrol-products.com/rodent/victor_trap.jpg
>>>
>>> Think cat.
>>>
>>>
>> I think not. Feeding a few mice is cheaper.
>
> Not if you contract Bubonic Plague, Babesiosis, LaCrosse encephalitis,
> Cutaneous leishmaniasis, Human granulocytic anaplasmosis, Lyme
> disease, Murine typhus, Rickettsialpox, Relapsing fever, Rocky
> Mountain spotted fever, or even rabies.
I think you got that list from one of those "Ask your doctor about..."
drug pusher commercials on TV.
HeyBub
>
> I'll take the occasional whiff of mouse over a the constant stench of
> a cat litter box, any day. And litter boxes ALL stink. Cat owners that
> claim otherwise are in denial, or they are so used to it that they
> don't smell it any more. But guests sure do.
You're probably right. But so what?
I am indifferent to whether my guests are offended.
Conversely, if I don't like an environment with which I have an occasion to
visit, I leave and don't go back.
Or set the place on fire.
hal...@aol.com
The company I worked at WG Johnston was closing:( The remaining
workers were moved to a small area in the building. I was in field
service still working, came in and checked the box of donuts in the
adjacent kitchen like area.
Kinda peeked in box to find a mouse looking back at me:)
So I walked in office and said lennys here. Leonard lewis bought the
company to shut it down and was universally despised.
Fear gripped them every time he visited more were let go:(
I said no not lenny lewis:)
Lenny the mouse in the donut box:):):)
The mouse was long gone. the donuts tossed.
After this the donuts lived on a small table in the middle of the
office where everyone could watch them!!!
Johnstons was a great job, worked there 9 years and went in business
for myself as it closed........
vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com
12/08 I found a termite nest in the closet above where we once had
termites. Termite trap installed then goes off six months
later. Identical termite trap immediately replacing it doesn't
respond. Conclusion: the trap flag sprung from rot not termites.
I contacted an entomolgy professor who once taught my bio lab. She
said check if any plants touch the house. Sure enough, it dawned on me
a pine-like tree with sweet berries attracted the termites to begin
with. Sadly, we removed the trees after forty years.
Lesson: Get to the ROOT of the problem.
In this case, literally.
The only time I ever had problems with mice was when the grubmint was
messing with the sewers. At said time, some rats were the size of
oppossums. I know because in my part of NYC we've always had a racoon
a month and an oppossum a year. THough now it seems the geese, that
brought down that plane, are scaring them away.
- = -
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>successfully.
>
> After several peaceful months, I found the trap tripped again and the
> peanut butter all gone, but there is no mouse to be found anywhere. How is
> this possible?
>
> This is the trap I use:
> http://www.pestcontrol-products.com/rodent/victor_trap.jpg
>
You've got a bad trigger or some other fault. I suspect too much of a hair
trigger. We use the Victor traps, too, but when I get a trap with confirmed
kills I use it forever. We used to keep track by drawing little "killed"
lines on the sides, but all the really good ones are completely marked up
now. Once you find a good one (snapped the mouse cleanly and quickly on the
neck) you'll get good at figuring out how much of a hair trigger it needs to
have to work well. Too much and it goes off in a draft (opening a door) and
too little and the mouse can do jumping jacks while eating the PB.
The Daring Dufas
> I set up a mouse trap in the garage and have caught several mice
> successfully.
>
> After several peaceful months, I found the trap tripped again and the
> peanut butter all gone, but there is no mouse to be found anywhere. How
> is this possible?
>
> This is the trap I use:
> http://www.pestcontrol-products.com/rodent/victor_trap.jpg
>
>
I've had ants eat the mouse bait off the trap and mice eat the ant bait.
I think it's a mouse/ant conspiracy.
TDD
The Daring Dufas
> On Jan 21, 10:01 am, "james" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> I set up a mouse trap in the garage and have caught several mice
>> successfully.
>>
>> After several peaceful months, I found the trap tripped again and the peanut
>> butter all gone, but there is no mouse to be found anywhere. How is this
>> possible?
>>
>> This is the trap I use:http://www.pestcontrol-products.com/rodent/victor_trap.jpg
>
> bump. Then, the mice cleaned it out. Just try again.
>
> False trips are a part of having a hair trigger.
I had a rat problem in a warehouse I one rented and I fiddled with the
big rat traps until the things had a hair trigger. I would often catch
mice with them. Because of the size of the trap, the bar would whack
the mouse on its hindquarters, the lifeless mouse would be found with
a crushed backside and the oddest open mouth expression on its upturned
little face. I can imagine that there was one loud ultrasonic squeak.
TDD
marl...@googlemail.com
> I set up a mouse trap in the garage and have caught several mice
> successfully.
>
> After several peaceful months, I found the trap tripped again and the peanut
> butter all gone, but there is no mouse to be found anywhere. How is this
> possible?
>
> This is the trap I use:
> http://www.pestcontrol-products.com/rodent/victor_trap.jpg
Metspitzer
wrote:
Matthew Marlow
micky
wrote:
The NCMM has banned trap robbing for mice under 2 years old.
Matty M
micky
Meanie
>
> AIUI, even with the helmet, they are likely to suffer concussions.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130909033423/poohadventures/images/4/47/Speedy_Gonzales.jpg
micky
wrote:
to the Los Angeles Humane Hospice on Wilshire Blvd. He had originally
been treated at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center the night of Dec. 25th, when
his friends thought he had just been drinking too much. After a
battery of exams over the next two days. he was diagnosed with
Repetitive Head Injury Syndrome
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/92189-overview and transferred to
the hospice, where Mr. Gonzales was found to also suffer from
Post-concussion Syndrome.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/post-concussion-syndrome/basics/definition/con-20032705
Doctors give him only two months to live. From the LATimes, Jan 14,
2014: "A long stream of visitors have arrived to pay their respects.
Seen entering the hospiice are both the famous and the non-famous, mice,
cats, and humans 'Speedy is as always a very intesting guy. We had a
great conversation, almost a half hour. I'm going to miss him greatly.'
said Sylvester to this reporter"
jons...@gmail.com
mike
> Live trapping is stupid. Mouse were NOT brought here by God, even if you believe in that sort of thing. Mice are an invasive species brought to North America on ships from Europe. A released mouse with either A) live outside, where they are very harmful to birds that God did put here, if you believe in that sort of thing, or B) it will get right back into yours or someone else's house where they spread disease and cause anxiety.
>
Same issue. The thing was smart enough to take the bait
without being trapped.
Put up a surveillance camera to see what he was doing.
Modified the bait setup.
Caught him the next night.
Stormin Mormon
> My neighbor had a raccoon problem.
> Same issue. The thing was smart enough to take the bait
> without being trapped.
> Put up a surveillance camera to see what he was doing.
> Modified the bait setup.
> Caught him the next night.
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Wally Gator
> On 6/19/2016 1:55 AM, mike wrote:
>> My neighbor had a raccoon problem.
>> Same issue. The thing was smart enough to take the bait
>> without being trapped.
>> Put up a surveillance camera to see what he was doing.
>> Modified the bait setup.
>> Caught him the next night.
>
> And did what with the racoon?
>
notbob
> Modified the bait setup.
A mouse is smart enough to get a piece of cheese out of a trap.
That's why one should use peanut butter. PB sticks to the trigger and
cannot be easily removed. I also think PB attracts rodents better
than cheese.
nb