Anchoring a Ladder on a Slanted Roof
Greg Dunn
I'd like to paint my two-story house myself, but there's one section where I
need to set a ladder on a (fairly steeply) slanted garage roof to get to the
second story exterior above. I've asked around for suggestions about
anchoring the ladder, and the best one so far was to nail a board into the
garage roof (parallel to the wall I need to work on) to serve as a stop for
the bottom of the ladder.
But...it's a brand new roof, and I really hate to put holes in it. Anyone
have an idea for a non-destructive way to keep myself from ending up in the
hospital? 8-)
TinMan1332
>But...it's a brand new roof, and I really hate to put holes in it. Anyone
>have an idea for a non-destructive way to keep myself from ending up in the
>hospital? 8-)
I know of no way to anchor anything on a roof without making holes (either
under the tab of a shingle or through one). Some jacks are the most common
method used, but the ole fashioned safety belt and line are the only way I know
of w/o making holes. I also have set up scaffolding, then run a ladder on the
roof (ladder being secured to the scaffolding). However, I own the scaffolding
and I'm not bothered with paying rental fees... so I set up the scaffold at the
drop of a hat for many things.
J.P.
Al gird
> I'd like to paint my two-story house myself, but there's one section
where I
> need to set a ladder on a (fairly steeply) slanted garage roof to get to
the
> second story exterior above. I've asked around for suggestions about
> anchoring the ladder, and the best one so far was to nail a board into
the
> garage roof (parallel to the wall I need to work on) to serve as a stop
for
> the bottom of the ladder.
>
> But...it's a brand new roof, and I really hate to put holes in it.
Anyone
> have an idea for a non-destructive way to keep myself from ending up in
the
> hospital? 8-)
Get a couple of roof brackets from the local lumber yard that sells roof
shingles. & put a plank across them.
Greg Dunn
Won't the roof brackets have to be nailed or screwed into the roof?
Al gird wrote in message <6khvbj$8vs$0...@204.249.164.207>...
TinMan1332
>Won't the roof brackets have to be nailed or screwed into the roof?
That's the normal way to do it!
J.P.
ces...@earthlink.net
In article <6khgrm$nqk$1...@client3.news.psi.net>,
"Greg Dunn" <gd...@healy-co.com> wrote:
>
> I'd like to paint my two-story house myself, but there's one section where I
> need to set a ladder on a (fairly steeply) slanted garage roof to get to the
> second story exterior above. I've asked around for suggestions about
> anchoring the ladder, and the best one so far was to nail a board into the
> garage roof (parallel to the wall I need to work on) to serve as a stop for
> the bottom of the ladder.
>
> But...it's a brand new roof, and I really hate to put holes in it. Anyone
> have an idea for a non-destructive way to keep myself from ending up in the
> hospital? 8-)
>
>
Screw two heavy eye- lag bolts into studs in the wall of the house, near where
the roof meets the wall. Use these to tie off BOTH the ladder and the thingie
I's about to describe.
Make a wooden base for the ladder legs: a 2x6 with 2x2's nailed on the face
ate each edge (or whatever dimension will be needed to fit the legs of your
ladder). Make this slightly wider than the width of your ladder. Set this
channel on the roofing, then put the legs of the ladder into it to prevent the
legs from damaging your roofing. Put eye-lags in this channel as well.
Remember, tie everything to the bolts in the wall.
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Al gird
> Won't the roof brackets have to be nailed or screwed into the roof?
They are nailed under the shingle tab. So when you take them off the nails
are covered.
Did the roofers use brackets? If so then the nails they used are in all
likelyhood still there. So all you would have to do is hang your brackets
from there nails.
If your roof isn't so steep that they didn't use brackets. Then you could
probably use a 2X4 on it with a short piece of plywood on top of that. The
2X4 would raise the peice of plywood on the downside. So the plywood was as
close to being level as possible. In any case I would not put the ladder
directly on to the roof. For it could quite possibly dig in & tear up your
new roof.
If you use the 2X4 method & are afraid that it would slip then put a piece
rubber under it.
Also you should know a little about physics. The closer you have the bottom
of the ladder to your side wall. The less is the chance for it to kick out
from under you.
Thomas Wunderlich
I recently had my chimney cap repaired and the workers laid a ladder on
the roof at the angle of the roof extending it to the ground and secured
it against a truck wheel. They then walked up and down carrying concrete
and other items which looked very safe and easy to me...
Greg Dunn
Cestfiu, this sounds promising, but I have a couple of questions:
1. Doesn't the ladder base need to be somewhat more elaborate than a 2x6
with a couple of 2x2's nailed into it? Since the 2x6 would lay directly
against the slanted roof, it doesn't seem like the angle will work out.
Maybe you're thinking of using a ladder with flexible feet that will rotate
to match the angle of the roof. My ladder does have flexible feet, though
I'll have to check tonight to see whether they'll rotate far enough. If not,
I'll need to build the base so it neutralizes the angle of the roof,
correct?
2. Once the ladder is tied to the eye-bolts at the top, what's the point
of tying the bottom off, too. Just extra insurance?
3. How do I keep from getting killed while I'm putting the eye-bolts into
the wall? 8-)
ces...@earthlink.net wrote in message <6kkehq$2rg$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <6khgrm$nqk$1...@client3.news.psi.net>,
> "Greg Dunn" <gd...@healy-co.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to paint my two-story house myself, but there's one section
where I
>> need to set a ladder on a (fairly steeply) slanted garage roof to get to
the
>> second story exterior above. I've asked around for suggestions about
>> anchoring the ladder, and the best one so far was to nail a board into
the
>> garage roof (parallel to the wall I need to work on) to serve as a stop
for
>> the bottom of the ladder.
>>
>> But...it's a brand new roof, and I really hate to put holes in it.
Anyone
>> have an idea for a non-destructive way to keep myself from ending up in
the
>> hospital? 8-)
>>
>>
>
darkstar
In article <Thomas_Wunderlich...@gcc-48.gcc.brown.edu>,
Thomas_W...@brown.edu (Thomas Wunderlich) wrote:
> I recently had my chimney cap repaired and the workers laid a ladder on
> the roof at the angle of the roof extending it to the ground and secured
> it against a truck wheel. They then walked up and down carrying concrete
> and other items which looked very safe and easy to me...
Well yeah, until somebody drives off in the truck.....
Robert Allison
darkstar wrote:
I just got through reading in one of the trade magazines about a guy that was
installing a TVantanae on his chimney. The roof was very steep (9/12) and he
ran a rope up over the ridge and down to his car bumper. He then climbed to
the spot he needed to work at and tied the rope around his waist.
About that time, his wife (late for an appointment), ran out, got in the car
and drove off. She was quoted as saying: "Thank God I heard him screaming as
he fell off the roof!" At least she didn't drag him all the way to the beauty
parlor. Just up one side of the roof, down the other...Ye gads!
Shortly after this, I did about the same thing to do a repair to a metal
roof. I was all alone, noone else around,...the only keys to the truck in my
pocket. I still couldn't stand it, and went down and pulled the coil wire off
the coil and carried it with me.
--
Robert Allison robert2...@ix.netcom.com
Rimshot, Inc.
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ces...@earthlink.net
In article <6kkjhj$pso$1...@client3.news.psi.net>,
"Greg Dunn" <gd...@healy-co.com> wrote:
>
> Cestfiu, this sounds promising, but I have a couple of questions:
>
> 1. Doesn't the ladder base need to be somewhat more elaborate than a 2x6
> with a couple of 2x2's nailed into it? Since the 2x6 would lay directly
> against the slanted roof, it doesn't seem like the angle will work out.
> Maybe you're thinking of using a ladder with flexible feet that will rotate
> to match the angle of the roof. My ladder does have flexible feet, though
> I'll have to check tonight to see whether they'll rotate far enough. If not,
> I'll need to build the base so it neutralizes the angle of the roof,
> correct?
My ladder has kinda rounded bottoms and would seem to work without building a
slope into the 2x6 assembly. If this is a REALLY steep roof, maybe not. The
idea of the 2x6 is just to keep from grinding on the roofing material, not so
much to support the ladder. The 2x2's are there just to keep the sx6 from
sliding as you shift your weight on the ladder
>
> 2. Once the ladder is tied to the eye-bolts at the top, what's the point
> of tying the bottom off, too. Just extra insurance?
Mostly extra insurance, and to keep the wood from sliding away while you are
setting the whole thing up. Might work as well to tie the wood to the bottom
rung of the ladder
>
> 3. How do I keep from getting killed while I'm putting the eye-bolts into
> the wall? 8-)
>
If theres a window in the wall, work from inside. Otherwise sticky shoes and
long pants and keep lots of your bod in contact with the roof surface. You can
rent safety belts and tie yourself off to something as well. Sometimes by
throwing a rope over the ridge of the house and tying it at ground level on
the side away from your work area.
First time you climb the ladder, pound in a couple of 16d nails into a fascia
board, or something, bend 'em, and tie off the top of the ladder too.
Happy climbing!
danh...@millcomm.com
In <6khgrm$nqk$1...@client3.news.psi.net>, "Greg Dunn" <gd...@healy-co.com> writes:
>I'd like to paint my two-story house myself, but there's one section where I
>need to set a ladder on a (fairly steeply) slanted garage roof to get to the
>second story exterior above. I've asked around for suggestions about
>anchoring the ladder, and the best one so far was to nail a board into the
>garage roof (parallel to the wall I need to work on) to serve as a stop for
>the bottom of the ladder.
>
>But...it's a brand new roof, and I really hate to put holes in it. Anyone
>have an idea for a non-destructive way to keep myself from ending up in the
>hospital? 8-)
If it's a new roof then you don't want to put the ladder on it anyway --
it will destroy the shingles where it rests. Figure out another way to
get your skyhook.
Dan Hicks
Hey!! My advice is free -- take it for what it's worth!
http://www.millcomm.com/~danhicks
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos
darkstar <dark...@sky.net> wrote:
: > it against a truck wheel. They then walked up and down carrying concrete
: > and other items which looked very safe and easy to me...
: Well yeah, until somebody drives off in the truck.....
The local radio had a home improvement talk show where they asked the
guest, a veteran roofer/roof company owner, about the worst thing that
ever happened to him. He recalled being on a roof in December, where, all
of a sudden, it started raining freezing rain :-) (not uncommon here)...
Scared the living daylights out of the guy...
Spiros
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