Adhesive Reccomendation Please?
jeff_wisnia
SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today (It's
a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the Jewish new
year begins.)
The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen out
of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it in the
grass alongside the stone.
Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave up
and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel like
some sort of "plaster".
The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface it
will be attached to is smooth granite.
The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
"stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and the like.
http://www.thistothat.com/
I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
to suggestions.
Thanks guys,
Jeff
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you'll have it from the top.
croy
<jwisnia...@conversent.net> wrote:
>
>
>SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today (It's
>a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the Jewish new
>year begins.)
>
>The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen out
>of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it in the
>grass alongside the stone.
>
>Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave up
>and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel like
>some sort of "plaster".
>The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface it
>will be attached to is smooth granite.
>
>The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
>"stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and the like.
>
>http://www.thistothat.com/
>
>I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
>to suggestions.
use something like PC-7 (glass- or aluminum-filled epoxy),
buttered nice and thick and completely covering the bonding
surfaces without air pockets. It would be really good if
you could take a portable vacuum chamber with you to de-air
the epoxy after mixing.
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croy
aemeijers
> Jeff why not contact a granite memorial co. and see what they recommend,
> you'll have it from the top.
>
Agree with calling the monument company, but I would also ask the
cemetery sexton or business office, if it has one. They may have a
regular guy in place that takes care of minor upkeep like that. I'd
think any of the modern construction adhesive, like outdoor-rated liquid
nails, or maybe the stuff the big-box sells for keeping the capstones
from sliding around on retaining walls, would work.
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dadiOH
> SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today
> (It's a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the Jewish new
> year begins.)
>
> The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen
> out of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it in
> the grass alongside the stone.
>
> Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave
> up and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel
> like some sort of "plaster".
>
> The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface
> it will be attached to is smooth granite.
>
> The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
> "stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and
> the like.
> http://www.thistothat.com/
>
> I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
> to suggestions.
>
> Thanks guys,
>
> Jeff
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>
> I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
> to suggestions.
A Portland cement based product such as used to secure towel racks (and
TP holders) in tile walls is likely most compatible with what was used
in the first place.
Marilyn & Bob
>
>
> a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the Jewish new
> year begins.)
>
> The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen out
> of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it in the
> grass alongside the stone.
>
> Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave up
> and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel like
> some sort of "plaster".
>
> The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface it
> will be attached to is smooth granite.
>
> The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
> "stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and the
> like.
>
> http://www.thistothat.com/
>
> I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
> to suggestions.
>
> Thanks guys,
>
> Jeff
>
care) on the grave site, I would think that the cemetery would reinstall
it for you.
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bobJ
HeyBub
>
> I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
> to suggestions.
>
Is it possible to physically mount the object, say with bronze pins into an
epoxy-filled hole. Same technique as used in the Big Dig to mount ceiling
panels - and we all know how successful that was.
Joe
wrote:
commonsense surface preparation. The preferred surface cleaner for
epoxy for years has been acetone available at any box store paint
department. The epoxy stone/concrete panels in the Boston tunnel
applied that way are still doing fine.
Common masking tape will work with epoxies since the non adhesive side
has a mold release coating.
Joe
Joe
Colbyt
"jeff_wisnia" <jwisnia...@conversent.net> wrote in message
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I feel pretty sure this is something you want to do right. In the absence
of a better suggestion, I would use the glue that comes in a caulk tube that
is made for stone wall cap installations. My neighbor had some step stones
glued down a few years back and it has held up well to foot traffic. In
your situation, I think it would outlive you.
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<colbyt@-SPAMBLOCK-lexkyweb.com> wrote:
>I feel pretty sure this is something you want to do right. In the absence
>of a better suggestion, I would use the glue that comes in a caulk tube that
>is made for stone wall cap installations. My neighbor had some step stones
>glued down a few years back and it has held up well to foot traffic. In
>your situation, I think it would outlive you.
to a ball of lard. Chew it off if you get it on your fingers. It
never comes out of clothing...
Maybe 8 dollars a tube.
MLD
Depot/Lowes). Works on and with just about anything
MLD
news:9NCdnc_C5eCv6-PT...@giganews.com...
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>
DFBonnett
>a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the Jewish new
>year begins.)
>
>The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen out
>of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it in the
>grass alongside the stone.
>
>Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave up
>and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel like
>some sort of "plaster".
>
>The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface it
>will be attached to is smooth granite.
>
>The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
>"stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and the like.
>
>http://www.thistothat.com/
>
>I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
>to suggestions.
>
>Thanks guys,
>
>Jeff
part adhesive so you'd have to mix it on site. Practice on something
at home to get the feel of it, clean up both sides to be adhered, mix
a batch, then apply. It will last longer than any of us will.
Nate Nagel
excellent luck gluing two pieces of floor tile together with Loctite
brand 5-minute heavy duty epoxy.
NB: it really doesn't set up in 5 minutes; it just becomes unworkable
after 5 minutes, so you need to jig the two pieces together somehow.
The same goes for JB-weld, but that product doesn't even advertise
itself as fast setting.
nate
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DFBonnett
wrote:
Duct tape should hold it in place for the requisite cure time.
Jim Yanik
news:t863975gp0pj09sop...@4ax.com:
> On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 09:32:38 -0400, Nate Nagel <njn...@roosters.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On 10/02/2011 09:13 AM, DFBonnett wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:30:40 -0400, jeff_wisnia
>>> <jwisnia...@conversent.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today
>>>> (It's a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the
>>>> Jewish new year begins.)
>>>>
>>>> The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen
>>>> out of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found
>>>> it in the grass alongside the stone.
>>>>
>>>> Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally
>>>> gave up and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible
>>>> and feel like some sort of "plaster".
probably tile grout.
>>>>
>>>> The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the
>>>> surface it will be attached to is smooth granite.
>>>>
>>>> The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
>>>> "stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and
>>>> the like.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.thistothat.com/
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm
>>>> open to suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks guys,
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> JB Weld. Available at Home Depot and just about everywhere. It's a
>>> two part adhesive so you'd have to mix it on site. Practice on
>>> something at home to get the feel of it, clean up both sides to be
>>> adhered, mix a batch, then apply. It will last longer than any of us
>>> will.
>>
>>That would be my first thought, but apropos of my last post, I had
>>excellent luck gluing two pieces of floor tile together with Loctite
>>brand 5-minute heavy duty epoxy.
>>
>>NB: it really doesn't set up in 5 minutes; it just becomes unworkable
>>after 5 minutes, so you need to jig the two pieces together somehow.
>>The same goes for JB-weld, but that product doesn't even advertise
>>itself as fast setting.
JB-Weld is RUNNY,on a vertical surface like a headstone,you'll have drips.
it also cures slower in cooler weather.
I would not recommend it in this application.
>>
>>nate
>
> Duct tape should hold it in place for the requisite cure time.
>
I'd use Liquid Nails construction adhesive. simple and easy,no mixing.
it's a strong bond to most materials,weather-resistant.
or you could use contact cement,it sets fast once the two pieces are mated.
also simple and easy.
DFBonnett
wrote:
YMMV
Nate Nagel
dpb
...
> will be attached to is smooth granite.
> ...I'm open to suggestions.
...
Haven't read all the other suggestions but didn't see what I'd go
with--a clear or black silicone adhesive. One of the automotive trim or
window ones will work perfectly for the purpose.
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