Preferred size for a walk-in closet?
h
will become our master bedroom. The new space will be a perfect rectangle,
23'x18'. This space is for the bedroom and closet. We're going to put in a
walk-in closet, but are debating how big it needs to be. In our current
bedroom we have a walk-in that's 8'x10', and it's much more space than we
need. We keep suitcases and sports gear in there and it's nowhere near
full.We are both VERY low-maintenance, and DH actually has more hanging
clothing than I do.
I'm planning a closet with a center door, two hanging racks (one down each
side), with some shelving above the racks and floor-to-ceiling
shelves/storage on the far wall across from the door between the racks.
The architect is telling me that a walk-in "should" be "at least" 10'x12' or
we "won't be able to sell the house". Since we plan to be carried out of
here feet first, we couldn't care less about resale. Plus, I refuse to
design new construction solely for "perceived" resale value when I plan to
live here for at least 35 more years.
I don't care what the architect says, I neither want nor need a closet that
big especially since we will still have the current master closet for
storage when that room becomes the guest room, plus the tiny closets in the
other two bedrooms (office and exercise room).
So...those of you with walk-in closets - how big are they and do you wish
your closet was bigger or smaller?
h
"h" <tmc...@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
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> We're going to be putting a second story over our existing living room,
Art Todesco
There are only 2 bedrooms. The master
has a 6 x 8 walk in with the door in the
middle of the 8' side. We were going to
have a 6' cloths rods on each of those
walls, however, because of a duct chase
we changed to having a 6' and an 8' on
those 2 walls. The other bedroom has a
5 x 9 walk in with the door on the 5'
wall to the left. The cloths rods go
only down the 9' wall on the right side.
Check out the floorplan at
http://picasaweb.google.com/actodesco
/FranklinHouse#5253349929054235314
which is shown with a 2' x 2' grid
overlayed. We are 2 60+ retired
people. There is plenty of room for us,
however, we do have lots of basement
space.
aemeijers
> "h" <tmc...@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
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>> We're going to be putting a second story over our existing living room,
>> which will become our master bedroom. The new space will be a perfect
>> rectangle, 23'x18'. This space is for the bedroom and closet. We're going
>> to put in a walk-in closet, but are debating how big it needs to be. In
>> our current bedroom we have a walk-in that's 8'x10', and it's much more
>> space than we need. We keep suitcases and sports gear in there and it's
>> nowhere near full.We are both VERY low-maintenance, and DH actually has
>> more hanging clothing than I do.
>>
>> I'm planning a closet with a center door, two hanging racks (one down each
>> side), with some shelving above the racks and floor-to-ceiling
>> shelves/storage on the far wall across from the door between the racks.
>>
>> The architect is telling me that a walk-in "should" be "at least" 10'x12'
>> or we "won't be able to sell the house".
Damn. Around here, 10x12 is considered a kid bedroom.
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Smitty Two
"h" <tmc...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
You mean, those of us with walk-in closets whom you haven't plonked? How
many does that leave, two?
Ed Pawlowski
"h" <tmc...@searchmachine.com> wrote
>
> I'm planning a closet with a center door, two hanging racks (one down each
> side), with some shelving above the racks and floor-to-ceiling
> shelves/storage on the far wall across from the door between the racks.
>
> The architect is telling me that a walk-in "should" be "at least" 10'x12'
> or we "won't be able to sell the house".
Typical closet is about 28" deep. With a rack on each side that is 56" or
about 5". You need at least the width of a door or 30" Lets round up to
3". That brings you to about 8". Depends on how much room you want in
the aisle but 8" to 10" is not really huge.
Steve
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>
> You mean, those of us with walk-in closets whom you haven't plonked? How
> many does that leave, two?
h replied to their own post. I wonder if h plonked themselve.
Tony Hwang
The bigger, the better. There is no such thing as preferred size.
Ours is 24x16 and wife pushed me out of there. She needs more space now.
Clothing, shoes, accessories such as purse, etc. Things are spilling out
of the closet, LOL!
JIMMIE
What Ive noticed is that the only space that gets used is space up
against the wall. Mine is 6x8 and seems to be a good size. I try to
limit the closet to clothes only keep soft luggage in the closet.
Other luggage is kept in a cabinet in the garage. Of course wife has
about 2/3 of it.
Jimmie
h
"JIMMIE" <JIMMIE...@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
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On May 18, 8:48 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>>What Ive noticed is that the only space that gets used is space up
>>against the wall.
That's my experience as well. Of course, I really only use the closet to
hang things up and store out-of-season clothes in bags on shelves. Any extra
space gets luggage and sports gear. I'm leaning towards staying with 8'x10'
and telling the architect to just get over it.
Pat
I like a width of 7 feet. Allows clothes to be hung on each side with a 3
foot walkway. If I went wider I would jump to 12 feet with two aisles and
hangers down the center as well. 14 foot would allow for two wide down the
center. My current closet is 7X12. Plenty large in my single days.
Starting to feel a little cramped with a woman using it too. I call them
dressing rooms and include chairs, mirrors and built in cupboards. With
everything in the closest the bedroom can be a modest size.
dadiOH
For what you want, it should be 6'-7' wide...24"-36" aisle plus 24" hanging
space each side. Length up to you. Note that your shelving on the wall
opposite entry won't be very useable because much it will be obscured behind
the hanging racks.
When we built I included two closets (his & hers) like that...each is 6 1/2'
wide x 8' long. The hanging space was partioned into thirds so that I could
inlude multi-level hanging. One side has a small, built in armoire about
60" high in one of the thirds, shelves above; another of the thirds has a
low set of drawers with hanging space for long items above. The top tier of
all hanging spaces is at about 6' and above that there are shelves for
little used items. The ceiling slopes crosswise and varies from 8' to 9
1/2'. The end opposite the entry has a full length mirror about 30" x 72".
The floor within the hanging spaces is about 2" higher than the aisle floor;
that's so dust and tracked in dirt will tend to stay in the aisle where it
is easy to clean up.
Our closets hold a LOT of stuff and are easy and convenient to use.
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"Pat" <dan...@online.mac> wrote in message
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> foot walkway. If I went wider I would jump to 12 feet with two aisles and
> hangers down the center as well. 14 foot would allow for two wide down
> the center. My current closet is 7X12. Plenty large in my single days.
> Starting to feel a little cramped with a woman using it too. I call them
> dressing rooms and include chairs, mirrors and built in cupboards. With
> everything in the closest the bedroom can be a modest size.
>
tell you that DH has more clothes, is much more appearance-obsessed, and
takes up a lot more space! I just want a rack on each side with shelves
above and about 3' of floor-to-ceiling shelving on the far wall between the
two racks. Sounds like my "too-small-closet" will work just fine.
Thanks for the comments!
jamesgangnc
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> > "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
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> > I like a width of 7 feet. Allows clothes to be hung on each side with a 3
> > foot walkway. If I went wider I would jump to 12 feet with two aisles and
> > hangers down the center as well. 14 foot would allow for two wide down
> > the center. My current closet is 7X12. Plenty large in my single days.
> > Starting to feel a little cramped with a woman using it too. I call them
> > dressing rooms and include chairs, mirrors and built in cupboards. With
> > everything in the closest the bedroom can be a modest size.
>
> LOL. As the female half of the couple who will be using the closet, I can
> tell you that DH has more clothes, is much more appearance-obsessed, and
> takes up a lot more space! I just want a rack on each side with shelves
> above and about 3' of floor-to-ceiling shelving on the far wall between the
> two racks. Sounds like my "too-small-closet" will work just fine.
>
> Thanks for the comments!
You're not putting in a bathroom? Personally I'd take an end off your
original retangle and divide it between a walk in closet and a bath.
And I'd also plan a stackable washer/dryer hookup in the closet. The
laundry hookup is probably more personal preference but once you have
a laundry closer to where you remove and put on your clothes you'll
never go back :-) As to the bath, I can't imagine having to go
downstairs to use a bathroom.
tra...@optonline.net
>
> - Show quoted text -
I don't see why h is even asking. She says she is happy with the
closet size she already has, doesn't care about resale, and intends to
live there the rest of her life. She disregarded the architect's
advice, which I think was valid. So, then just build whatever she
wants. What does it matter what any of us think?
keith
Our house has the solution to that problem; two walk in closets in the
master suite. ;-) Of course I got the smaller one, but that's OK,
she got the linen chest (stupid builder didn't fit in a linen closet
downstairs).
Colbyt
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I see a lot of closets in my installation business. Newer homes have larger
closets. Closets are also sized along with the selling price of the home,
bigger = bigger. The latest trend I am seeing on the upper end homes is
that most people store all their clothing in the closet. Many of the high
end ones have built in drawers and sweater shelves and so on. One could
spend almost as much in a master closet as they do on kitchen cabinets. -:)
A 300K plus home should have at least a 10x12 for the MBR. Most newer
200K homes have that as a minimum for the MBR.
Our MB is to the rear of our BR and one walks a short hall to enter it.
There is a walk-in closet to the left and right of that hall. Both were
built as 6x8 with a bypass door on the center of the 8' span. There is a
chase for the chimney out of one taking a 2x2 cut in the corner. I use that
one and the wife overflows the larger one. I, personally store nothing in
drawers except out of season items. I even hang my tee-shirts. Socks and
jockys are in a wire basket. Everything I use on a daily basis is in the
closet. I don't do it that way to emulate the bigger homes, I do it that
way because I like it that way. For my lifestyle I have more than enough
room, but keep in mind that clothes aren't my thing.
Men with lots of suits, suit jackets and shoes or boots would most likely
fill it. I see closets larger than both ours that are overflowing with
clothes. Depends on the lifestyle of the homeowner.
I realize you don't give a hoot about resale right now but only a fool would
completely disregard it. Think about the neighborhood, what type of buyer
would buy your remodeled home? Consider the price range. Make an informed
choice and do what you want. It is your home.
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Please come visit http://www.househomerepair.com
h
"jamesgangnc" <james...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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We already have a full bath upstairs in the origanal section of the house.
The one-story living room was added in the early-1900s. We'll be adding on a
much larger two-story addition in 2012 which will have a small,
separate-entrance office/client area with a half bath, and a 24x40 garage
down, with a master bath, commercial washer and dryer, and an enormous
industrial workspace upstairs.
By the time both construction projects are completed we'll have more than
doubled the size of the house and my workspace can move from the garage into
the house, where I'll have plumbing and real heat! I'm so sick of running
down the stairs and across the deck and into the house every time I need the
bathroom. In the winter I have to shovel my way to and from. I'm SO not
going to miss that! Also, having a separate office for clients means that I
won't have to make sure the entire downstairs is pristine in case they have
to use the bathroom.
We're doing it in two stages because the existing detached garage will need
to be knocked down for the new addition, and I wouldn't have any place to
work for at least a month, plus no place to store my equipment. Once the new
master bedroom is built I'll move my work space in there for 18 months until
we move to stage two.
Smitty Two
"Colbyt" <colbyt@-SPAMBLOCK-lexkyweb.com> wrote:
> A 300K plus home should have at least a 10x12 for the MBR. Most newer
> 200K homes have that as a minimum for the MBR.
Home prices are absolutely meaningless as a reference for closet size,
unless you name a specific neighborhood in a specific city, which then
makes them pretty much meaningless anyway on a worldwide discussion
forum. (You can't buy a 600 sq. ft. 2 bed, 1 bath cottage for less than
$850K around here, with the possible exception of a shack in the slums,
then you're down around 700K.)
BobR
When we added a second story onto our house some years back it was a
bit larger with a Master Bedroom, Master Batch, Setting/TV area and my
homve Office all included. The walking master closet was 14' wide and
14' long. The builders thought it was another bedroom since it was
almost as large. The layout was designed for my wife with me as an
afterthought. The entrance was sliding mirrored doors wide enough for
both sides to be open at the same time. My wife had one side and the
entire back while I was allowed to use the other side with some space
for suitcases and other stored items. Down the middle of the closet
was a built in cabinet four feed wide, eight feet long, and eight feet
high. Cieling in closet was 10 feet. The upper clothes racks were
high with a motorized canteleaver to bring them down for access. The
lower racks were mixed full length and half racks. I put in a seat
and full length mirror at the back for my wife who preferred it for
most of her use. (In spite of having full length mirror on doors.)
The final touch was a huge shoe rack on one side at the back that hid
a jewlery safe. I know, it was a huge overkill but my wife loved it.
Now about that master bath....
h
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>
>
> I realize you don't give a hoot about resale right now but only a fool
> would completely disregard it. Think about the neighborhood, what type of
> buyer would buy your remodeled home? Consider the price range. Make an
> informed choice and do what you want. It is your home.
>
I live out in the boonies and can only see most of my neighbors in the
winter when there are no leaves. We have tiny 600 sq ft farmhouses and 5000
sq ft McMansions in the mile-and-a-half between my house and the nearest
cross street. There are also several other in-home businesses on this road,
so it seems to be more about how you intend to use the house rather than its
selling price. The McMansions seem to be 4br, 5.5baths, with gobs of wasted
"living space", vaulted ceilings, etc. My final living space will be about
3800 sq ft, with 4br, 3.5baths, separate office and huge workspace. My
architect says it's really 6br, because the office and the workspace count
as bedrooms. Umm, no.
HerHusband
First, the basics...
Hanging clothes need at least 2' of depth, and the walkway should be 3'
wide to avoid feeling cramped. So, minimum width would be 5' if you have
hanging clothes on one side, or 7' if you have hanging clothes on both
sides. The length can be whatever you have space for (as small as 2' or as
long as the house).
We designed and built our own house, and our master "suite" is roughly
23'x16', about the same as your proposed space. Our suite includes a
12'x15' bedroom, a 10'x10' master bath, and our 5'x10' master closet
(inside room dimensions). We installed 3' doors in case we ever need to use
a wheelchair, and the closet door opens into the bedroom, so it doesn't
take space away from the closet.
We have have hanging rods on the LEFT side of the closet only. The first
third of the 10' length has double hanging rods (one above the other) for
my wife's shirts, skirts, and pants. The middle third has a higher single
rod for hanging longer items like dresses, robes, etc. And the last third
is the double hanging rods for my shirts and pants. There is a shelf above
the middle section where we keep extra pillows and whatnot.
I built a wall mounted shelf (12" deep, and about 6' high) at the back end
of the closet where we store shoes, hats, boxes of old cards/letters, etc.
It's mounted high enough off the floor that we can slide our laundry basket
under the shelf.
We have a small niche on the RIGHT side of our closet (about 4' wide x 16"
deep that bumps into the bathroom area), where I built a set of 12 built-in
drawers. That's where we keep our socks, underwear, lingerie, shorts,
gloves, sheets for the bed, etc. My wife keeps her jewelry boxes and other
do-dads on top of the built-in dresser.
The rest of the RIGHT side of our closet has hooks for belts and whatnot,
and a full height mirror.
While the McMansion folks would probably find it unacceptable, we are more
than happy with our "little" 5'x10' closet. We have plenty of room for
clothes, and my wife uses it as her changing room since there's plenty of
room to move around. We've lived here over five years and have never filled
up the closet rods.
I would be happy to send you some pictures if you want. Just email me from
the link on my web site at www.mountain-software.com.
Take care,
Anthony
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> I would be happy to send you some pictures if you want. Just email me from
> the link on my web site at www.mountain-software.com.
>
chaniarts
> My final living space will be about 3800 sq ft, with
> 4br, 3.5baths, separate office and huge workspace. My architect says
> it's really 6br, because the office and the workspace count as
> bedrooms. Umm, no.
in our area, if it has a closet, it's a bedroom. you should check with your
tax code to see what it is in your area.
keith
wrote:
That's generally the distinction, but in my last house it was the
other way around. The tax roles defined the number of bedrooms. We
had to pay $6K to list our house as three bedroom. The builder
apparently had it listed as a two bedroom, though it clearly had three.
h
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neither is a bedroom. The architect doesn't get it.
knuckle...@nowhere.gov
>When we added a second story onto our house some years back it was a
>bit larger with a Master Bedroom, Master Batch, Setting/TV area and my
>homve Office all included. The walking master closet was 14' wide and
>14' long. The builders thought it was another bedroom since it was
>almost as large. The layout was designed for my wife with me as an
>afterthought. The entrance was sliding mirrored doors wide enough for
>both sides to be open at the same time. My wife had one side and the
>entire back while I was allowed to use the other side with some space
>for suitcases and other stored items. Down the middle of the closet
>was a built in cabinet four feed wide, eight feet long, and eight feet
>high. Cieling in closet was 10 feet. The upper clothes racks were
>high with a motorized canteleaver to bring them down for access. The
>lower racks were mixed full length and half racks. I put in a seat
>and full length mirror at the back for my wife who preferred it for
>most of her use. (In spite of having full length mirror on doors.)
>The final touch was a huge shoe rack on one side at the back that hid
>a jewlery safe. I know, it was a huge overkill but my wife loved it.
>Now about that master bath....
Yes, yes...keep going... about that master bath...
But before we get off the closet/bedroom thing:
Where does your wife put on her make up? Seated or standing?
Illuminated mirror? Provision of water? Presuming she does it at a
table or desk. How big? what sort of surface (risk of spilling
alcohol, acetone etc)? General lighting: change in color temperature
for different scenarios (you match the make up to the destination
(beach or party etc) and the lighting has to be compatible
Where does she blow dry her hair?
Where do you shave?
If you answer "in the bathroom" to any of the above you're wasting a
very expensive and not too pleasant (smells, moisture) room for
something that could be done much more conveniently in your massive
closet (with some rearrangement).
benick
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My thoughts exactly...
RonB
> We're going to be putting a second story over our existing living, which
> will become our master bedroom. The new space will be a perfect rectangle,
> 23'x18'. This space is for the bedroom and closet. We're going to put in a
> walk-in closet, but are debating how big it needs to be. In our current
> bedroom we have a walk-in that's 8'x10', and it's much more space than we
> need. We keep suitcases and sports gear in there and it's nowhere near
> full.We are both VERY low-maintenance, and DH actually has more hanging
> clothing than I do.
>
> I'm planning a closet with a center door, two hanging racks (one down each
> side), with some shelving above the racks and floor-to-ceiling
> shelves/storage on the far wall across from the door between the racks.
>
> The architect is telling me that a walk-in "should" be "at least" 10'x12' or
> we "won't be able to sell the house". Since we plan to be carried out of
> here feet first, we couldn't care less about resale. Plus, I refuse to
> design new construction solely for "perceived" resale value when I plan to
> live here for at least 35 more years.
>
> I don't care what the architect says, I neither want nor need a closet that
> big especially since we will still have the current master closet for
> storage when that room becomes the guest room, plus the tiny closets in the
> other two bedrooms (office and exercise room).
>
> So...those of you with walk-in closets - how big are they and do you wish
> your closet was bigger or smaller?
We are just now finishing a house and we did most of the finish work.
We too have two bedrooms on the main floor including a good sized
master bedroom (15 x 17.5). Our walk-in has its own door which
parallels the bath and it is 10' deep by 6-1/2' wide with the door in
the end. We built two tall shoe and sweater shelving units that are
about 20" wide that also serve as one end attachment for single or two
level hanging rods. Above the hanging rods are shelve that are at
"tipy-toe height (or step stool). There is also a separate partition
in the middle on one side that allowed us to convert from double level
rods to single level dress rod. We are completely satisfied and we
have had good comments from others about its utility.
As a side-note the second bedroom has a fairly good size closet with
standard bi-folds. It shares a wall with the hallway leading to the
bedroom so it is about 4' deep and 7' wide. It is a little larger
than many second bedroom closets but provides good storage for our
"empty-nester" stuff. We configured the inside with shelving that is
great for a bedroom, but it could also he easily converted to a sewing
nook if my wife ever wants to move the sewing center upstairs.
RonB
h
"benick" <ben...@fairpoint.net> wrote in message
>
> I don't see why h is even asking. She says she is happy with the
> closet size she already has, doesn't care about resale, and intends to
> live there the rest of her life. She disregarded the architect's
> advice, which I think was valid. So, then just build whatever she
> wants. What does it matter what any of us think?
>
> My thoughts exactly...
Because resizing the closet later would be quite expensive and I want to
make sure I'm not making a mistake. So far, no one has come up with any
reason that a closet should be bigger than 8x10. At least not a reason that
is valid for my lifestyle.
jamesgangnc
You just getting a bunch of opinions, some for and some alternatives.
But they are just opinions. You are still left with the same choices,
make it the size you want or make it bigger. Frankly I never make
"bad resale" decisions about any home I own. No matter what my
plans. You could die next week in a car wreck and your wife might
decide that house is not so suitable all by herself. You can't
predict the future so don't put up barricades that someone will regret
later. Even if it's not you that regrets it.
keith
Absolutely. These days, you may find yourself moving for a job.
Never close off options unnecessarily. Do what you want but make sure
it's not "too weird". At least design in some easy way out. Bedrooms
without closets are one of the no-nos, in my book.
Smitty Two
<19d70341-8085-4511...@c13g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
jamesgangnc <james...@gmail.com> wrote:
Reminds me of the people who put plastic covers on their car seats and
drive around like that for five years, to "protect the resale value."
Unless I like sitting on plastic, I won't do it. I suppose your whole
house is painted the same boring off-white, because someone who lives in
it 30 years from now might not like bold colors?
I see this resale value god being worshipped daily on a.h.r., and I
think it's nonsense. I would never make one single choice based on
someone else's preference rather than my own.
h
Again, I don't care about resale. I'm certainly not going to plan a
renovation I expect to live with for at least 35 years based on "resale
value". And yes, I could die and leave my HUSBAND all alone tomorrow. The
only reason I am asking for opinions is that I want to make sure I have
correctly assessed our needs. I really don't want to put anything else in
the closet besides hanging clothes, shoes, and out-of-season clothes in bags
on shelves. Based on what everyone else puts in their very large closets,
I've decided that yes, 8'x10' is more than we need, so we'll stay with that
size.
Thanks, everyone, especially Anthony, for their input!
jamesgangnc
> "jamesgangnc" <jamesgan...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sorry about the wife remark, my bad. Statistically it's more likely
that you will outlive him. But clearly you had your mind made up
before you came here.
h
No problem :)
I'm 11 years old than he is, so it's a toss-up. Yes, I have very fixed ideas
about all aspects of both stages of our renovations, but since it's such a
huge amount of money I want to make sure I don't get tunnel vision and miss
something. I don't want to end up with something I don't like when I could
have designed it "right" the first time. Just wait until the architect sees
that I want a double stall shower and NO bathtub in the master bathroom.
He'll have a cow!
jamesgangnc
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Double shower and no tub in a master is not a 'no sale'.
h
>Double shower and no tub in a master is not a 'no sale'.
That's my preference, but the architect we're using is a very earnest young
man (ok, he's nearly 40) who seems MUCH more concerned with resale than what
the current owners want. He's also very traditional. He is, however, very
good, reasonably priced, and his plans ALWAYS get approved by our town
building people, who can be a real pain. We've got a bathtub in the one
upstairs bath we have now, and in 25 years I don't think anyone has used it.
I'm not even sure it has a stopper!
Cindy Hamilton
> Where do you shave?
>
> If you answer "in the bathroom" to any of the above you're wasting a
> very expensive and not too pleasant (smells, moisture) room for
> something that could be done much more conveniently in your massive
> closet (with some rearrangement).
Ok, I'm not the OP, but...
Huh? My husband shaves IN the shower, because he likes it. What
kind of shaving can be done in the absence of water? Oh, all right,
using an electric razor, obviously, but not everyone uses one.
I shave in the shower, too.
Cindy Hamilton
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"Cindy Hamilton" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I'm with you. DH shaves over the bathroom sink and I shave in the shower.
Even with an electric razor, aren't bits of hair and skin dropping all over?
Gross. Just what I want on my closet floor. We cut each other's hair (blunt
cut, just below the waist, every 8 weeks) in the bathroom, too. Like I said,
we're both very low maintenance.
cshenk
> "benick" wrote
>> I don't see why h is even asking. She says she is happy with the
>> closet size she already has, doesn't care about resale, and intends to
>> live there the rest of her life. She disregarded the architect's
>> advice, which I think was valid. So, then just build whatever she
>> wants. What does it matter what any of us think?
> Because resizing the closet later would be quite expensive and I want to
> make sure I'm not making a mistake. So far, no one has come up with any
> reason that a closet should be bigger than 8x10. At least not a reason
> that
> is valid for my lifestyle.
I wouldnt worry about it. Do what seems right. I'd kill for a single 8x10
closet here. Heck, I'd be happy for a 2x5 ft one!
More than you need though when adding a second is just useless, especially
if it detracts from another room.
cshenk
> I'm 11 years old than he is, so it's a toss-up. Yes, I have very fixed
> ideas about all aspects of both stages of our renovations, but since it's
> such a huge amount of money I want to make sure I don't get tunnel vision
> and miss something. I don't want to end up with something I don't like
> when I could have designed it "right" the first time. Just wait until the
> architect sees that I want a double stall shower and NO bathtub in the
> master bathroom. He'll have a cow!
Here's a real one. Make sure one of the 2 (or both if you like) are wheel
chair accessable and if this is upstairs area and a new stairwell has to be
added, that it meet the specs so a proper ADA lift can later be added to get
up there. I gather this is a second story addition? If not done, this may
be the one that pushes the house to have to be sold in later years.
I'm slowly working on my house. One thing we watch is how 'accessable' each
added thing is. Got a downstairs bathroom with a tub?
Phisherman
wrote:
>We're going to be putting a second story over our existing living, which
>will become our master bedroom. The new space will be a perfect rectangle,
>23'x18'. This space is for the bedroom and closet. We're going to put in a
>walk-in closet, but are debating how big it needs to be. In our current
>bedroom we have a walk-in that's 8'x10', and it's much more space than we
>need. We keep suitcases and sports gear in there and it's nowhere near
>full.We are both VERY low-maintenance, and DH actually has more hanging
>clothing than I do.
>
>I'm planning a closet with a center door, two hanging racks (one down each
>side), with some shelving above the racks and floor-to-ceiling
>shelves/storage on the far wall across from the door between the racks.
>
>The architect is telling me that a walk-in "should" be "at least" 10'x12' or
>we "won't be able to sell the house". Since we plan to be carried out of
>here feet first, we couldn't care less about resale. Plus, I refuse to
>design new construction solely for "perceived" resale value when I plan to
>live here for at least 35 more years.
>
>I don't care what the architect says, I neither want nor need a closet that
>big especially since we will still have the current master closet for
>storage when that room becomes the guest room, plus the tiny closets in the
>other two bedrooms (office and exercise room).
>
>So...those of you with walk-in closets - how big are they and do you wish
>your closet was bigger or smaller?
>
My master closet is rather large, but the width is only 5 feet'. It
has a heat/AC vent in it which proved to be very helpful. I started
working 3rd shift and could not get a good sleep due to all the
daytime noise (barking dogs, basketball, doorbell, lawn mowers, etc).
I found sleeping in the walk-in closet floor was the perfect quiet
place to get undisturbed sleep. For large closets I would guess you
could add some furniture, perhaps a dressing area or hobby desk.
cshenk
> Double shower and no tub in a master is not a 'no sale'.
As long as the house HAS a tub, correct. Personal preference for master
setup there would be one larger shower with opposing wall spigots and temp
controls. Lots of fun can be had there (evil grin). Also on a serious
note, if they don't like the same temps the dual setup lets them control.
JUst have the head adjustable (prefer power massage types myself on a long
rope but I'm 50% disabled and it's just flat out easier for some parts of my
daily rituals to be able to move the spray head to where I want it than move
me to where it hits). Do it right, and you can shift the shower heads when
in single person use to hit you from both sides at once while you are
glorified standing there in the middle with both sides warm in a cold winter
bathroom.
aemeijers
Agreed, as long as there is a tub in the bathroom that services the
other bedrooms, usually kids rooms. A house with NO tub is a hard sale
to anyone with rug rats, or planning on them.
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JimR
"h" <tmc...@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
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walls have clothes rods, one end is sliding drawers on ajustable vertical
posts that we got from the Container Store. There were two considerations
that we learned while trying to design this area. (1) Don't have clothes
rods on adjacent walls -- the corner where the two rods intersect is not
very convenient. The pullout drawers make much more sense, and (2) Once
you've gotten about 8 feet wide, you don't gain much by increasing the
width, because you can't just add another row of clothes rods down the
middle. A walkin closet with rods on each side plus one in the middle would
have to be about 14' wide. So when you increase the width from 8' to 10 or
12', you're not gaining any real hanging spaace, you're just adding more
empty space in the middle of the room.
For the bathroom, think about the idea of having the sinks outside of the
bathroom, at one end or side of the bedroom -- especially if you have a
fairly large bedroom (ours is 24' x 36'). We first saw this done in the
suites at the Burswood Casino outside of Perth, Australia, where it was
quite effective, and incorporated it into our redesign.
h
"cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> "jamesgangnc" wrote
>
>> Double shower and no tub in a master is not a 'no sale'.
>
> As long as the house HAS a tub, correct. Personal preference for master
> setup there would be one larger shower with opposing wall spigots and temp
> controls. Lots of fun can be had there (evil grin). Also on a serious
> note, if they don't like the same temps the dual setup lets them control.
> to hit you from both sides at once while you are glorified standing there
> in the middle with both sides warm in a cold winter bathroom.
Exactly my plan.
h
> "h" wrote
>
>
> I'm slowly working on my house. One thing we watch is how 'accessable'
> each added thing is. Got a downstairs bathroom with a tub?
>
keith
Our master has a 6' x 6' shower with a rain head but no wall mounted
head. I like the rain head but if I were to design the thing it would
have one wall mounted head. It's a PITA to clean, as it is. The
master also has a whirlpool tub, that hasn't been used (I woldn't care
about a tub in the master, but SWMBO does). There are two more full
baths upstairs (and a half down), one in a guest room suite and one
outside the third bedroom, with more conventional one-piece fiberglass
tub-showers.
Edward Reid
Open door, take one step, turn on light, all clothes are within reach yet
far more convenient than a conventional closet and less % corridor than a
larger walk-in. OK, so this was in a singlewide. Build to fit your needs
and your house.
We are now in a 1953 "real house" and I wish I had that closet here. We've
bought six wardrobes to augment the closets.
I agree with the comment about ventilation -- at least make sure the closet
has good air flow. Especially A/C to avoid mold and mildew on the clothes.
I think the bedroom I grew up in was 10x12'. My sisters shared the smaller
bedroom. This was in a very large 1300 sq ft house. It was large because
the available area was used for real living space and the bedrooms were
sized for sleeping only. Fifty-four years after my parents built it, they
are dead but one of my sisters is living in the house, and my other sister
would retire there if it were available.
Edward
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