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micky

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Nov 15, 2020, 9:00:10 AM11/15/20
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Hearing repeated ads for Amazon drivers. One criterion:

"Ready for flexible shifts?" I'm sure some think the shifts will be
flexible at the discretion of the driver, but I have a feeling they're
flexible at the discretion of Amazon. Anyone know?

Dean Hoffman

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Nov 15, 2020, 9:58:05 AM11/15/20
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The ad sez:
<https://flex.amazon.com/>
It mentions tips. It has never crossed my mind to tip a delivery driver.

hub...@ccanoemail.ca

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Nov 15, 2020, 10:11:35 AM11/15/20
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On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 08:57:56 -0600, Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
wrote:
We seldom see them - they tend to just drop it at the front door
and drive away - not even bothering to ring the doorbell ..
The one time I tracked a delivery - made by a 3rd party contract
courier - there was a photo of the parcel sitting on my doorstep
on the company's website, with date & time code.
John T.

Thomas

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Nov 15, 2020, 12:16:25 PM11/15/20
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Pics of not my porch once a month. I do shop everyday.

Clare Snyder

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Nov 15, 2020, 4:55:21 PM11/15/20
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On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 08:57:56 -0600, Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
wrote:

Kinda hard when they drop the parcel in the bushes beside the door.
Sometimes they even press the doorbell button before they lope down
the driveway to their truck

micky

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Nov 15, 2020, 5:53:39 PM11/15/20
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 15 Nov 2020 09:16:18 -0800 (PST), Thomas
<cano...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 10:11:35 AM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 08:57:56 -0600, Dean Hoffman <deanh...@clod.com>
>> wrote:
>> >On 11/15/20 8:00 AM, micky wrote:
>> >> Hearing repeated ads for Amazon drivers. One criterion:
>> >>
>> >> "Ready for flexible shifts?" I'm sure some think the shifts will be
>> >> flexible at the discretion of the driver, but I have a feeling they're
>> >> flexible at the discretion of Amazon. Anyone know?
>> >>
>> > The ad sez:
>> ><https://flex.amazon.com/>
>> > It mentions tips. It has never crossed my mind to tip a delivery driver.

The only time I see one is when I'm outside and he's delivering to
someone else. Some of those times I plead with him for a package but he
won't give me one. Why should I tip him?

>> We seldom see them - they tend to just drop it at the front door

That too.

>> and drive away - not even bothering to ring the doorbell ..

I did see one acrosse the street put the package way to the left of the
door, where it can't be seen from the street, and then ring the
doorbell, but I'm not sure my upstairs doorbell still works. I
concluded a couple years ago that it didn't but I forget why, and I need
someone else to help me test it.

(It piggybacks on the doorbell built into the house. I soldered a
jumper acrosse the button switch and replaced the battery with the
rectified output of the doorbell transformer, mounted the button to the
basement ceiling, so that when someone rings the original doorbell, it
powers the new button which is wirelessly connected to a beeper plugged
into the upstairs hall. When it worked it was loud enough for the
whole upstairs but hard or impossible. to hear when in the front hall at
the front door.)

>> The one time I tracked a delivery - made by a 3rd party contract
>> courier - there was a photo of the parcel sitting on my doorstep
>> on the company's website, with date & time code.
>> John T.
>Pics of not my porch once a month. I do shop everyday.

Are you saying once a month they leave your package at the wrong house?

Is it in walking distance for you, at least?

Wade Garrett

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Nov 15, 2020, 6:15:56 PM11/15/20
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I can't remember the last time a delivery dimwit rang my doorbell.

Most times they leave pkgs in front of my garage door rather than carry
it up the obvious flight of stairs next to it to the front door.

I've called and complained to the post office
(the worst offenders), UPS (the dumbest CSRs) and Fedex (who apologized
and no longer do that).

--
Why is it that the people who want more government control over your
life are the same ones who want you to be disarmed?

micky

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Nov 15, 2020, 6:31:55 PM11/15/20
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 15 Nov 2020 08:57:56 -0600, Dean Hoffman
Well, I'm glad to say that I seem to have been overly suspicious:

Your page points to https://flex.amazon.com/why-flex

"Do it your way. Set your own hours, listen to your own tunes, and get
paid."

It's interesting to me that if they do get to set their own hours (and I
can see that working) that the radio ad just says "Ready for flexible
shifts?". I wonder if they realize that can be taken two opposite
ways.

"*Actual earnings will depend on your location, any tips you receive,
how long it takes you to complete your deliveries, and other factors."

I have seen the UPS driver. He was proud of the fact that he did "put
package to right out of view", and I thanked him for it. Maybe I should
have tipped him. It's only 3 or 4 feet to the right, but in one case,
he lifted up a small plastic garbage can, put the package beyond that
and replaced the can. It was a bigger heavier box than usual. maybe he
knew it was a desktop computer.

gfre...@aol.com

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Nov 15, 2020, 6:54:16 PM11/15/20
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On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 18:31:47 -0500, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
wrote:
My stuff always ends up on the bench next to the front door but I have
a guard snake living there.

http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/yellow%20rat%20snake.jpg

rbowman

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Nov 15, 2020, 7:47:46 PM11/15/20
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On 11/15/2020 04:15 PM, Wade Garrett wrote:
> I've called and complained to the post office
> (the worst offenders), UPS (the dumbest CSRs) and Fedex (who apologized
> and no longer do that).

My worst experience was with Airborne Express. Back when laptop RAM was
expensive they left a little box with $400 worth on a neighbor's
woodpile. I'd already contacted the vendor who was going to send a
replacement when the kid noticed the box while playing around the
woodpile and brought it over.

The mail contractors sometimes use random sorting when putting mail in
the cluster box but we've gotten used to exchanging mail. I did almost
pay a neighbor's electric bill before the name on it registered.

u

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Nov 15, 2020, 7:57:54 PM11/15/20
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fuck them

micky

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Nov 15, 2020, 8:53:32 PM11/15/20
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 15 Nov 2020 18:54:01 -0500,
He knows how to mug for the camera. Might have a future in modeling.

It's too cold here 5 or 6 months a year for me to have one of those.

hub...@ccanoemail.ca

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Nov 15, 2020, 10:28:26 PM11/15/20
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>>
>>My stuff always ends up on the bench next to the front door but I have
>>a guard snake living there.
>>
>>http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/yellow%20rat%20snake.jpg
>
>He knows how to mug for the camera. Might have a future in modeling.
>It's too cold here 5 or 6 months a year for me to have one of those.


A buddy used-to do a big Halloween yard display -
animated witches and huge spiders with lighting
and sound effects etc. But one of the simplest
and most effective nearly-piss-yourself scares
was a fake snake - under which he had hidden a small air line
with a remote valve - the open end of the air line was
pointed at the ground, under the snake's head -
so people would recognize that it was a fake snake -
and walk up for a closer look - at which point,
the operator would let off a shot of compressed air -
.. the snakes head would lift off the ground with a
sudden HISS noise and said people would run & scream.
it was great.
John T.

Peeler

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Nov 16, 2020, 3:25:08 AM11/16/20
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On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 17:47:51 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> My worst experience was with Airborne Express. Back when laptop RAM was
> expensive they left a little box with $400 worth on a neighbor's
> woodpile. I'd already contacted the vendor who was going to send a
> replacement when the kid noticed the box while playing around the
> woodpile and brought it over.
>
> The mail contractors sometimes use random sorting when putting mail in
> the cluster box but we've gotten used to exchanging mail. I did almost
> pay a neighbor's electric bill before the name on it registered.

Another thrilling senile story from the senile recesses of our resident
senile babbler's senile mind! LOL

Mark Lloyd

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Nov 16, 2020, 12:49:36 PM11/16/20
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On 11/15/20 3:55 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:

[snip]

> Kinda hard when they drop the parcel in the bushes beside the door.
> Sometimes they even press the doorbell button before they lope down
> the driveway to their truck

MOST of the deliveries I get, the driver doesn't ring the doorbell. I
either see it or find a package there later.

--
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1 day).

Mark Lloyd
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"Superstition sets the whole world in flames; philosophy quenches them."
[Voltaire]

Mark Lloyd

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Nov 16, 2020, 12:55:24 PM11/16/20
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On 11/15/20 6:47 PM, rbowman wrote:

[snip]

> The mail contractors sometimes use random sorting when putting mail in
> the cluster box but we've gotten used to exchanging mail. I did almost
> pay a neighbor's electric bill before the name on it registered.

I had been getting mis-boxed mail about once a month. It would be
addressed to the right house number, but on the next street. The mail
carrier is getting better this year. I might go 3 months without having
to take something around the block.

66 days until "former president Trump"

gfre...@aol.com

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Nov 16, 2020, 1:26:50 PM11/16/20
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 11:49:27 -0600, Mark Lloyd <n...@mail.invalid>
wrote:

>On 11/15/20 3:55 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> Kinda hard when they drop the parcel in the bushes beside the door.
>> Sometimes they even press the doorbell button before they lope down
>> the driveway to their truck
>
>MOST of the deliveries I get, the driver doesn't ring the doorbell. I
>either see it or find a package there later.

That really started with Covid. The doorbell button is seen as a touch
hazard. (silly as that seems)

Ralph Mowery

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Nov 16, 2020, 1:29:20 PM11/16/20
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In article <82zsH.439047$r25.1...@fx08.iad>, n...@mail.invalid says...
>
> I had been getting mis-boxed mail about once a month. It would be
> addressed to the right house number, but on the next street. The mail
> carrier is getting better this year. I might go 3 months without having
> to take something around the block.
>
>
>

Sometimes you have to mark it up as roads with similar names.

Dad lived on White Farm Road. He got a lot of mail that was for just
White Road.

Friend lives on Stanwyc Circle. It is just off of Stanwyc Road. About
half his packages wind up at a house with the same number on the Road
instead of Circle.

I have trouble with getting my road on some order places on the
internet. It is St. Luke's Road. That is on the road sign and local tax
records. Most internet places will not take the Luke's but just want
Luke. Not usually problem getting mail and packages .


rbowman

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Nov 16, 2020, 9:23:47 PM11/16/20
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On 11/16/2020 11:29 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> I have trouble with getting my road on some order places on the
> internet. It is St. Luke's Road. That is on the road sign and local tax
> records. Most internet places will not take the Luke's but just want
> Luke. Not usually problem getting mail and packages .

Apostrophes tend to be a pain in the butt. A database search with

WHERE StreetName = 'St. Luke's'

will fail. You can mess around with double and single quotes but one or
the other will bite you sooner or later.


gfre...@aol.com

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Nov 16, 2020, 11:19:56 PM11/16/20
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:23:53 -0700, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:
I lived with search engines 40 years before Google. We never used any
punctuation at all. In the RETAIN system you could even leave out the
vowels. Enter easy terms, they are easy to find

Peeler

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Nov 17, 2020, 4:00:35 AM11/17/20
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:23:53 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> Apostrophes tend to be a pain in the butt.

Yeah, you are an apostrophe in your own right, senile blabbermouth!

micky

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Nov 18, 2020, 7:26:57 AM11/18/20
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 15 Nov 2020 09:00:02 -0500, micky
Apparely my suspicion was too suspicious.

They played it some more and it also says "Ready to work hard" and
that's good too. And in contrast to "ready for flexible shifts, it that
clearly means the new hires will work hard. So it's good that they warn
them. In addition, since much of the work time is driving, and since
they are iiuc expected to use their own cars, so the packages can't be
that big, the only opportunity for rushing is in and out of the car and
up to the door. I'm sure they will work hard but it's not like being a
lumberjack or bronco buster.

Dean Hoffman

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Nov 18, 2020, 4:20:18 PM11/18/20
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On 11/15/20 8:00 AM, micky wrote:
A woman delivered a package across the street. She was driving
what looked like a personal vehicle and dressed like a UPS driver.
The vehicle had quite a few more packages in the back.

rbowman

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Nov 18, 2020, 9:30:56 PM11/18/20
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I got a package at about 8PM. The driver was driving his own vehicle and
was dressed in civilian clothes. He said UPS was hiring contractors
because they couldn't keep up. If Trump really did screw up the covid
response resulting in more lock downs Bezos ought to send him a premium
set of golf clubs for Christmas. UPS might as well have an Amazon logo
on their trucks around here.

Peeler

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Nov 19, 2020, 3:26:24 AM11/19/20
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 19:31:02 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> I got a package at about 8PM. The driver was driving his own vehicle and
> was dressed in civilian clothes. He said UPS was hiring contractors
> because they couldn't keep up. If Trump really did screw up the covid
> response resulting in more lock downs Bezos ought to send him a premium
> set of golf clubs for Christmas. UPS might as well have an Amazon logo
> on their trucks around here.

Good grief, what an endlessly babbling idiot! <tsk>
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