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Mitch@_._

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Jun 22, 2009, 9:58:50 AM6/22/09
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I have a mulberry under my deck. It's really getting out of control.
I chop it off every year, but I know that's just a Band-Aid.

Last year I cut it off, drilled deep holes in the stump, and dumped in
Roundup concentrate. Didn't even skip a beat. It's bigger and badder
than ever.

dpb

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Jun 22, 2009, 10:06:22 AM6/22/09
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Spray it on the leaves instead...it works by takeup into the plant via
the foliage.

I didn't check the label specifically for mulberry, but expect it will
do the trick.

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Doug Miller

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Jun 22, 2009, 10:32:39 AM6/22/09
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I sympathize. Darn things seem to have more lives than a cat, don't they?

I did manage to kill one, once. I cut it off as close to the ground as I
could, and poured a LOT of salt on the freshly-cut surface. I repeated the
application of salt several times over the next week or so -- every time the
cut edge looked wet, I poured more salt on. Tree died, and (surprisingly for a
mulberry) it has *stayed* dead.

Mitch@_._

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Jun 22, 2009, 10:39:07 AM6/22/09
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Thanks, I'll try salt.

I can't really spray the leaves with Roundup (wish I could) because
the mulberry is all mixed in with my shrubs and daylilies.

George

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Jun 22, 2009, 10:39:36 AM6/22/09
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Roundup doesn't work that way. It is a systemic killer that needs to be
absorbed via the leaves.

You could drill a bunch of holes again and fill with a high nitrogen
fertilizer or manure and cover with dirt. That will make it start to
decompose. I also remember buying a commercial product that was packed
in a milk carton style package that is used the same way.

Smitty Two

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Jun 22, 2009, 11:00:57 AM6/22/09
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In article <fc3v35pdpmq6bjqk3...@4ax.com>, Mitch@_._
wrote:

> I have a mulberry under my deck. It's really getting out of control.

Are you in Texas? I think HeyBub said it's legal there to use plastic
explosives on out-of-control plants, as long as you fire a warning shot
with a 16" naval gun first.

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Doug Miller

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Jun 22, 2009, 11:20:52 AM6/22/09
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You can wipe Roundup on with a sponge or rag. Wear rubber gloves.

willshak

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Jun 22, 2009, 11:26:54 AM6/22/09
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Can you jack it out by the roots? Wrap and tie a 1/4" nylon rope to the
base of the bush and thread the rope up though a gap between decking.
Loop that end over the lifting part of a bumper jack placed over a joist
and jack it up. Me, I just pull out unwanted bushes and small trees with
my 4 x 4 truck.

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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
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Jim Elbrecht

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Jun 22, 2009, 11:36:01 AM6/22/09
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I had one in the corner of my garden. I liked it. The Orioles loved
it. It had about a 5" trunk. I clipped it a couple times with the
mower and scraped some bark off. it died.

Try enjoying the mulberry. They don't seem to like that.

Really- you need to leave the foliage on and soak it with the roundup.
Leave the dead stuff until it is dry and brittle.

Jim

HeyBub

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Jun 22, 2009, 12:12:18 PM6/22/09
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There are other restrictions: Has to be "in season" and there's a bag limit.
I don't know the limit because no one pays any attention to that sort of
stuff around here.

Plastic explosives are for pussies (and also expensive). We generally use
what's on hand - typically Ammonium nitrate and diesel fuel. Set it off with
a standard #6 blasting cap.


ransley

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Jun 22, 2009, 12:21:03 PM6/22/09
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Copper sulfate mixed with water poured at the stump and copper nails
in the tree might do something over years, dig a hole for the copper
so it doesnt run off. Roundup only works on leaves, if you can cover
the good plants with plastic drop cloths for a few hours you can spray
it, The Company would best direct you on time needed to cure but I
think its maybe 20-45 minutes. Dont you like the berries?

JIMMIE

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Jun 22, 2009, 12:22:13 PM6/22/09
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The nitrogen works, sounds a little counterintuitive at first but I
guess the high dose of nitrogen just burns the crap out of it.

Jimmie

JIMMIE

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Jun 22, 2009, 12:32:06 PM6/22/09
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On Jun 22, 12:12 pm, "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> Smitty Two wrote:
> > In article <fc3v35pdpmq6bjqk37277sk55lpjl0e...@4ax.com>, Mitch@_._

When I was about 15 my dad got a summer job for me working as this old
guys farm hand.
One day we went out to clears some stumps out of a pasture he was
going grow crops in.


We spent most of the day blasting pine stumps withh dynamite. Toward
the end of the day there was a big oak stump left and the last of the
dynamite had failed to do the job. He had heard about using
fertilizer/ deisel fuel but had never tried it. He figured it couldnt
be as powerful as the dynamite so he mixed up about 200lbs of the
stuff in a portable cement mixer and stuffed the hollow core of the
oak stump with it.

Jimmie

Steve Daniels

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Jun 22, 2009, 12:53:14 PM6/22/09
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:32:06 -0700 (PDT), against all advice,
something compelled JIMMIE <JIMMIE...@YAHOO.COM>, to say:

> We spent most of the day blasting pine stumps withh dynamite. Toward
> the end of the day there was a big oak stump left and the last of the
> dynamite had failed to do the job. He had heard about using
> fertilizer/ deisel fuel but had never tried it. He figured it couldnt
> be as powerful as the dynamite so he mixed up about 200lbs of the
> stuff in a portable cement mixer and stuffed the hollow core of the
> oak stump with it.

And . . . ?


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Hell Toupee

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Jun 22, 2009, 1:26:22 PM6/22/09
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Mitch@_._ wrote:

Cover the stump with a heavy pail or coffee can. Drive a nail through
it into the stump to anchor it firmly (so sprouts can't lift it off).
Shovel dirt around the pail to help hold it in place and keep out
the light. Keep the pail in place for about a year. The stump will
sprout, but the sprouts will die from lack of light. The stump
eventually runs out of stored energy and dies.

nor...@earthlink.net

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Jun 22, 2009, 1:49:05 PM6/22/09
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Roundup works on leaves. Cut the tree to the ground. When it develops
3 or 4 leaves, spray or paint the leaves with Roundup. On waxy or heavy
leaves, it sometimes takes 2 or 3 applications. It will work.

nor...@earthlink.net

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Jun 22, 2009, 1:51:29 PM6/22/09
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We used it to kill tough weeds in our lawn and landscaping that could
not be dug or pulled out. Put a little roundup in a cup and brush it
onto the leaves of the offending plant/weed. Too much salt can damage
lawn or shrubs, especially acid lovers like azalea or rhododendron.

Dan Listermann

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Jun 22, 2009, 1:52:43 PM6/22/09
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<Mitch@_._> wrote in message
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I have some stinkweed trees that seem immortal. . .


JIMMIE

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Jun 22, 2009, 2:03:57 PM6/22/09
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On Jun 22, 12:53 pm, Steve Daniels <sdani...@gorge.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:32:06 -0700 (PDT), against all advice,
> something compelled JIMMIE <JIMMIEDEE...@YAHOO.COM>, to say:

>
> >     We spent most of the day blasting pine stumps withh dynamite. Toward
> >     the end of the day there was a big oak stump left and the last of the
> >     dynamite had failed to do the job. He had heard about using
> >     fertilizer/ deisel fuel but had never tried it. He figured it couldnt
> >     be as powerful as the dynamite so he mixed up about 200lbs of the
> >     stuff in a portable cement mixer and stuffed the hollow core of the
> >     oak stump with it.
>
> And . . . ?
>
> --
>
> Don't worry about people stealing an idea. If it's original, you will
> have to ram it down their throats.
>   - Howard Aiken

No more stump

Jimmie

HeyBub

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Jun 22, 2009, 2:31:53 PM6/22/09
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Steve Daniels wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:32:06 -0700 (PDT), against all advice,
> something compelled JIMMIE <JIMMIE...@YAHOO.COM>, to say:
>
>> We spent most of the day blasting pine stumps withh dynamite.
>> Toward the end of the day there was a big oak stump left and the
>> last of the dynamite had failed to do the job. He had heard
>> about using fertilizer/ deisel fuel but had never tried it. He
>> figured it couldnt be as powerful as the dynamite so he mixed up
>> about 200lbs of the stuff in a portable cement mixer and stuffed
>> the hollow core of the oak stump with it.
>
>
>
> And . . . ?

R.I.P., old guy.


stan

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Jun 22, 2009, 2:57:37 PM6/22/09
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On Jun 22, 2:21 pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 22, 8:58 am, Mitch@_._ wrote:
>
> > I have a mulberry under my deck.  It's really getting out of control.
> > I chop it off every year, but I know that's just a Band-Aid.
>
> > Last year I cut it off, drilled deep holes in the stump, and dumped in
> > Roundup concentrate.  Didn't even skip a beat.  It's bigger and badder
> > than ever.
>
> Copper sulfate mixed with water poured at the stump and copper nails
> in the tree might do something over years, dig a hole for the copper
> so it doesn't run off. Roundup only works on leaves, if you can cover

> the good plants with plastic drop cloths for a few hours you can spray
> it, The Company would best direct you on time needed to cure but I
> think its maybe 20-45 minutes. Don't you like the berries?

Suggest using something basic and non toxic.
Geez. If everyone is using chemicals at the rate and as often as has
been suggested here as various solutions to the OP's 'Mulberry
problem' one wouldn't want to eat anything (e.g Mulberries) grown near
or within 100 yards (at least)!
Also btw don't ever expect to drink the water in that
area .................. you know what that's doing to male sperm
rates.
Soon males will be taking one form of chemical to 'keep it up' and
there will no need for birth control chemicals etc. because all the
sperm will be dead/deformed and/or unable to perform!
Isn't it interesting how things go around and nature, rather than
humans actually controls what happens!
Recently found a neighbour spraying some one gallon of weed-killer on
a small patch of grass and complaining about dandelion seeds from his
neighbour!
He's recovering by the way (fully we hope) from an operation and
treatment for some form of internal cancer; so was very surprised to
see him so liberally splashing around that chemical!
Thank goodness we no longer use our well water.

willshak

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Jun 22, 2009, 3:16:56 PM6/22/09
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...or houses within 500 feet. :-)

George

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Jun 22, 2009, 4:00:30 PM6/22/09
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Mitch@_._ wrote:
> Thanks, I'll try salt.

I would rethink that especially since you mentioned other plants are
close by.

KLS

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Jun 22, 2009, 4:33:53 PM6/22/09
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:32:39 GMT, spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

Mine still grows leaves in the front lawn 6 years after being cut down
and most of the rotten stump dug out. I just mow over it as I don't
want to kill my grass with herbicide.

nor...@earthlink.net

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Jun 22, 2009, 5:52:35 PM6/22/09
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stan wrote:
> On Jun 22, 2:21 pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 22, 8:58 am, Mitch@_._ wrote:
>>
>>> I have a mulberry under my deck. It's really getting out of control.
>>> I chop it off every year, but I know that's just a Band-Aid.
>>> Last year I cut it off, drilled deep holes in the stump, and dumped in
>>> Roundup concentrate. Didn't even skip a beat. It's bigger and badder
>>> than ever.
>> Copper sulfate mixed with water poured at the stump and copper nails
>> in the tree might do something over years, dig a hole for the copper
>> so it doesn't run off. Roundup only works on leaves, if you can cover
>> the good plants with plastic drop cloths for a few hours you can spray
>> it, The Company would best direct you on time needed to cure but I
>> think its maybe 20-45 minutes. Don't you like the berries?
>
> Suggest using something basic and non toxic.
> Geez. If everyone is using chemicals at the rate and as often as has
> been suggested here as various solutions to the OP's 'Mulberry

Brushing on enough Roundup to kill the plant is inconsequential as to
the effect on environment. But, to the other points you make, people
are insane about insects and insecticide - often see posts by folks who
have an ant hill in the yard....that's where they freaking belong! In
order to contract for any bug/weed treatment where I live, you have to
sign up for a program of some kind of treatment every month, which is
insane. I've seen idiots dump a whole bag of Dursban on a few ant
hills, completely disregarding the label instructions. That makes me
sick. If it's good, sometimes more is bad, especially when most goes
into the ground water or waterway.

Jim Yanik

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Jun 22, 2009, 6:33:17 PM6/22/09
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Steve Daniels <sdan...@gorge.net> wrote in
news:andv35he0p3gsg42l...@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:32:06 -0700 (PDT), against all advice,
> something compelled JIMMIE <JIMMIE...@YAHOO.COM>, to say:
>
>> We spent most of the day blasting pine stumps withh dynamite.
>> Toward the end of the day there was a big oak stump left and the
>> last of the dynamite had failed to do the job. He had heard about
>> using fertilizer/ deisel fuel but had never tried it. He figured
>> it couldnt be as powerful as the dynamite so he mixed up about
>> 200lbs of the stuff in a portable cement mixer and stuffed the
>> hollow core of the oak stump with it.
>
>
>
> And . . . ?
>


I don't think the OP wants to set off an explosion right next to his house.

certainly not one powerful enough to blast out a tree stump;it would trash
his foundation,blow out windows,and probably wreck walls.

It also would annoy the police.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

aemeijers

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Jun 22, 2009, 6:44:38 PM6/22/09
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Mitch@_._ wrote:
> I have a mulberry under my deck. It's really getting out of control.
> I chop it off every year, but I know that's just a Band-Aid.
>
> Last year I cut it off, drilled deep holes in the stump, and dumped in
> Roundup concentrate. Didn't even skip a beat. It's bigger and badder
> than ever.

Chuckle. My yard is full of them. Even have one growing through an
abandoned kids play fort. Cutting them down just pisses them off. Birds
and groundhogs love them, and plant ten new ones for every one you cut.
You gotta go deep, and destroy the main root. Shovel and hatchet time.
Otherwise, plan on cutting it down every couple of months.

--
aem sends...

Smitty Two

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Jun 22, 2009, 7:15:51 PM6/22/09
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All right, this is either a good idea, or urban legend. Have you
actually done this successfully?

Jim Yanik

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Jun 22, 2009, 7:31:49 PM6/22/09
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aemeijers <aeme...@att.net> wrote in
news:qPT%l.386743$4m1....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

what animals EAT groundhogs?

(ferrets and minks...what else?)
I'm thinking natural controls....

Humorous story;

I like mulberries,ate a bunch of them when I was a kid;found a tree in the
local park,stacked park benches and tables to climb up in it,ate myself
full.

then I told my mom I found a raspberry tree in the park,she freaked
out,said "raspberrys don't grow on trees",had me drink a quart of milk and
a neighbor fetch a sample from the tree to ID what I ate,thinking I
poisoned myself. 8-)

Mitch@_._

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Jun 22, 2009, 9:03:43 PM6/22/09
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>
> Put a little roundup in a cup and brush it
>onto the leaves of the offending plant/weed.

So, if you put Roundup on just some of the leaves, will it kill the
whole plant?

Because there is a big chunk of the mulberry bush that's come up
around the side of my deck, and it's isolated from other plants.

Mitch@_._

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Jun 22, 2009, 9:04:47 PM6/22/09
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:36:01 -0400, Jim Elbrecht <elbr...@email.com>
wrote:

>Try enjoying the mulberry. They don't seem to like that.

Ha! Yeah, my luck with gardening, if I decided to love it it would
die instantly.


Mitch@_._

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Jun 22, 2009, 9:06:55 PM6/22/09
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:44:38 GMT, aemeijers <aeme...@att.net> wrote:

>Otherwise, plan on cutting it down every couple of months.

I actually like the look of a mulberry, but this one is in danger of
damaging my deck.

Red Green

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Jun 22, 2009, 10:08:38 PM6/22/09
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Mitch@_._ wrote in news:fc3v35pdpmq6bjqk3...@4ax.com:

> I have a mulberry under my deck. It's really getting out of control.
> I chop it off every year, but I know that's just a Band-Aid.
>
> Last year I cut it off, drilled deep holes in the stump, and dumped in
> Roundup concentrate. Didn't even skip a beat. It's bigger and badder
> than ever.


My Ex made some dishes that would have done the trick. Fortunately, that
item availability is discontinued.

HeyBub

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Jun 22, 2009, 10:14:41 PM6/22/09
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I've done it many times. I didn't drive a nail and I used plastic coffee
cans. But it works.


Fat Moe

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Jun 25, 2009, 9:25:17 PM6/25/09
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Mitch@_._ wrote:
> I have a mulberry under my deck. It's really getting out of control.
> I chop it off every year, but I know that's just a Band-Aid.
>
> Last year I cut it off, drilled deep holes in the stump, and dumped in
> Roundup concentrate. Didn't even skip a beat. It's bigger and badder
> than ever.

They are a mess around here. Grow everywhere! At least they are easy
to cut. I use the loppers to the sprigs off. When they are small 1/4
inch or so the weed trimmer will cut them but they seem to grow to an
inch over night. When they get to big for the weed trimmer I just cut
them off and toss them in the yard and let the riding lawnmower deal
with them. Anything over ... say an 1 1/2 I'll cut with the chain saw
into little logs and burn them in the chimmenia (sp). Those things can
burn a large brush pile up pretty fast. Makes a good beer drinking
project with buddies that come over. I think they used to call them
incinerators but now it's a decorative functional yard ornament? Put
some hail screen over the top so you don't set the neighbor's house on
fire and have hot dogs and clothes hangers ready in case the firetrucks
show up.

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