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Amarr vs Clopay garage door

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gpla...@onebox.com

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Sep 12, 2006, 10:53:23 PM9/12/06
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How do Amarr garage doors (aka ReliaBilt, sold by Lowes) compare with
Clopay (aka Holmes, sold by Home Depot)?
Amarr's website says they have "true 24 gauge" steel, but does that
apply to their ReliaBilt brand name? Is Clopay "nominal" or true 24
gauge?

Joe

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Sep 12, 2006, 11:32:22 PM9/12/06
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One way to find out specs is to call Customer Service and ask for
bochures on the products you are inetrested in. Most web sites have 800
numbers for just this purpose.
FWIW, Clopay has been around for ages, never ran across Amarr before,
but then our local Lowes store is rather recent.
Spend some time browsing through Google listings and look over web
sites for more info. If you have a handy local library, check out the
Thomas Register, a compendium of thousands of manufacturers and note
the listings that appeal to you.
Remember steel gauge is only one facet of quality. More important is
the galvanizing and the multilayer topcoats. Read up on metal roofing,
for example , for good info on finishes. Better one carry a 50 year
warranty. Good luck.

Joe

Art

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Sep 13, 2006, 9:36:19 AM9/13/06
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Check your phone book to see if Wayne Dalton store is in your area. They
make superior doors. Lowes may carry them but in my experience WD will sell
it installed cheaper than Lowes. Also they have a neat opener that fits
over the door instead of needing a track across the ceiling.


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gpla...@gmail.com

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Sep 14, 2006, 1:42:58 PM9/14/06
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I got a hold of Amarr and Clopay cust svc.
Clopay (Holmes/Home Depot) says their's is a nominal steel gauge rating
while Amarr (ReliaBilt/Lowe's) says theirs is a true gauge. I'm still
not sure how much difference that makes. I've searched the web a bit,
but if it were really that important I would expect there to be a lot
more info explaining it.

Edwin Pawlowski

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Sep 14, 2006, 3:23:59 PM9/14/06
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<gpla...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I got a hold of Amarr and Clopay cust svc.
> Clopay (Holmes/Home Depot) says their's is a nominal steel gauge rating
> while Amarr (ReliaBilt/Lowe's) says theirs is a true gauge. I'm still
> not sure how much difference that makes. I've searched the web a bit,
> but if it were really that important I would expect there to be a lot
> more info explaining it.

Doubt it makes any difference as you can be talking thousandths of an inch
difference. The thickness of the steel is a factor, but much more important
is what you do with it, how you form it, how you paint it, and how well the
hardware fits and works.


Andy Asberry

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Sep 14, 2006, 6:04:33 PM9/14/06
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I have 5 Amarr doors, three insulated. All have the torsion spring(s)
which are matched to the door weight. Preload the specified number of
turns and they work correctly every time.

Hot-dipped galvanized American made steel.

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cobra...@gmail.com

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Mar 4, 2015, 8:53:03 PM3/4/15
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all manufacturers of steel doors [pan or insulated] use similar steel. finish at the factory is important. in this discussion only two mfgs. are mentioned. there are many. all mfg. similar styles and grades. in most cases it is the homeowner who decides what is best for them [appearance and budget].

Nope

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May 7, 2015, 10:54:33 AM5/7/15
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On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 at 8:36:19 AM UTC-5, Art wrote:
> Check your phone book to see if Wayne Dalton store is in your area. They
> make superior doors. Lowes may carry them but in my experience WD will sell
> it installed cheaper than Lowes. Also they have a neat opener that fits
> over the door instead of needing a track across the ceiling.
>

Superior? LOL Wayne Dalton makes the worst doors in the market. I've been doing doors for decades and have seen it all. You can't tell me that a door with PLASTIC drums, Internal springs (aka very low cycle) paper backing and outright FALSE R value claims makes a good door.(Its an R 3 for 80% of the door, but in 2" per panel has a thick rib section with an R20 or something like that, so they give it the "average" R value, even though the huge majority of the door is an R3...) Not to mention the opener you reference is also the most unreliable on the market.

I have no doubt you work for Wayne Dalton since they are the ONLY people who recommend that junk, anyone who does this for a living wouldn't never put one in their own homes

Stormin Mormon

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May 7, 2015, 3:21:51 PM5/7/15
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On 5/7/2015 10:54 AM, Nope wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 at 8:36:19 AM UTC-5, Art wrote:

Nine years later, your comment is still relevant?

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Sleestak

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Jun 5, 2015, 10:44:04 PM6/5/15
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replying to Stormin Mormon , Sleestak wrote:
> cayoung61 wrote:
>
> Nine years later, your comment is still relevant?


Yes, it is relevant. Why would it not be?

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joseph...@gmail.com

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Sep 12, 2016, 5:32:19 PM9/12/16
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I am considering new garage door - considering both Clopay and Wayne Dalton.
The quoted installation price difference is quite large. Wayne Dalton (model 8300)is around $875 Canadian and Clopay (model 4053)is around $1200 Canadian.
After reviewing lots of reviews, it seems that Clopay is better than Wayne Dalton in terms of quality.

I would like to know what your comment are.

Thanks
Joseph

Oren

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Sep 12, 2016, 7:24:12 PM9/12/16
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:32:15 -0700 (PDT), joseph...@gmail.com
wrote:

>I would like to know what your comment are.

Buy a garage door built by the Martin family from Utah.

<http://www.martindoor.com/>

Visit HD to see a operational display.

Wade Garrett

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Sep 13, 2016, 9:58:46 AM9/13/16
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Have had two higher-end model Clopay steel two car garage doors for
years. No issues.

A few years ago, our driveway replacement contractor hit the door with
his Bobcat bucket. The Clopay regional sales office was very
helpful...quickly rounding up a skilled installer and supplying a
comparable model new door from their local warehouse which of course the
driveway guy paid for.

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Sep 13, 2016, 10:10:28 AM9/13/16
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Just git one locally made by boys in da hood, and forgit about all that
phancy phagg shit.

joseph...@gmail.com

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Sep 13, 2016, 12:57:25 PM9/13/16
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Good to know. I planned for the Premium Series. model 4050 or 4053.
The specification is 26 Gauge Steel, 1 3/8 in thick and R Value is 6.5 using Polystyrene.
My garage is insulated on the roof and dry wall, so the contractor said that I do not need a high R value.

Clopay got many good reviews in terms of quality even though it is at a higher price compared to Wayne Dalton.

My understanding is looking for the steel gauge. Clopay used Steel Gauge 27 for higher end model like 9200, 9130 and 4300 series.

The lower the number of Steel Gauge, the better it is. Correct?


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Wade Garrett

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Sep 14, 2016, 3:20:14 PM9/14/16
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Yup, like wire gauge or shotgun gauge...the lower the number, the bigger
the diameter/thickness.

Curious though what your contractor said about not needing a well
insulated door because the roof and walls are. Sorta like saying one
bald tire is OK as long as the other three have good tread;-)

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dunpaintn

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Apr 12, 2017, 10:44:05 PM4/12/17
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replying to Nope, dunpaintn wrote:
> Superior? LOL Wayne Dalton makes the worst doors in the market. I've been
> doing doors for decades and have seen it all. You can't tell me that a doo
> r with PLASTIC drums, Internal springs (aka very low cycle) paper backing a
> nd outright FALSE R value claims makes a good door.(Its an R 3 for 80% of t
> he door, but in 2" per panel has a thick rib section with an R20 or somethi
> ng like that, so they give it the "average" R value, even though the huge m
> ajority of the door is an R3...) Not to mention the opener you reference i
> s also the most unreliable on the market.

> I have no doubt you work for Wayne Dalton since they are the ONLY people wh
> o recommend that junk, anyone who does this for a living wouldn't never put
> one in their own homes

I just got an estimate from a highly regarded local company and he recommended
Wayne Dalton and said NOT to go with Cloplay, I really don't know what to
think....I am also looking Amarr but I like the Cloplay's wood look better
than Amarr. : /



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Pete.b

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Aug 9, 2018, 4:44:07 PM8/9/18
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replying to Art, Pete.b wrote:
You are calling Wayne Dalton superior?? Are you out of your mind? They make
the cheapest door in the industry. Why do you think all the builders go with
them, it’s not for their quality but for their cheapness but as always in
life, you get what you pay for.

Pete.b

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Aug 9, 2018, 4:44:07 PM8/9/18
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replying to Nope, Pete.b wrote:
Nope,

It does my heart good to see honest people like you “saying it like it is”

Kudos, what nope said the WD are CRAP!

I like the Clopay design, I’m no expert but a lot of what they design in
their doors make sense to me.

Pete.b

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Aug 9, 2018, 4:44:08 PM8/9/18
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replying to josephip2010, Pete.b wrote:
Your post is old I sure hope you didn’t go with WD they should be barred
from doing business, in my opinion

obrio...@gmail.com

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Zyzyx

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Sep 17, 2019, 9:14:04 PM9/17/19
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replying to Nope, Zyzyx wrote:
100% agree they are some of the worst quality doors being produced and they
are built to be installed quickly which is more beneficial for the installer
than the homeowner as you trade quality for speed IMO. Profit before people is
the corporate way and this is a very large corporation whom owns Overhead Door
Corporation too. Comparing apples to apples the Waynee Daltonian door is
complete junk.

Mike

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Oct 27, 2021, 9:01:27 PM10/27/21
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I’m looking into Coplay or ankmar. Which is better?

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Wade Garrett

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Oct 28, 2021, 8:56:21 AM10/28/21
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On 10/27/21 9:01 PM, Mike wrote:
> I’m looking into Coplay or ankmar. Which is better?
>
Don't know anything about Ankmar but I've had a Clopay steel extra heavy
duty 16x7 for years. Opens and closes several times a day. Never had a
problem with it.

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